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My main gripe is knowing, soon after you have sat down to be interviewed, that the job you have yearned for for so long... is going to someone else (probably internally) and that, no matter how good you think the interview is going, at the back of your mind you know you're not gonna get it!

Has this happened to you?

How do I know this?  Well, recently I went for an interview at the local Council, a job that I have done within another Council. Brilliant I thought, bound to get it!  How wrong could I be?  Firstly, I had put more effort into my clothing than the 3 panellists, never a good start if you are being interviewed by 3 women (they get jealous don't you know).  The next thing was being confronted by 3 blank faces whenever I answered a question, totally disinterested in what I was saying even though they wrote down SOME of what I said.  Also, one question tends to lead swiftly on to another and I am not asked to elaborate on my skills, whether they be interpersonal (God I hate that word) or typing, it all becomes, well, rushed is the best I can describe it.

... given this job to an internal candidate judging by the total lack of interest

Then comes the phone call bang on 4pm.  I reckon they always ring up the unsuccessful candidates first to "get them out of the way."  Then you get the dreaded words, "Your interview went extremely well....but" and the excuses come after that for me not getting the job, namely I didn't elaborate on my skills (well, you didn't ask I'd be tempted to say).  Then you put the phone down and think about what you should have said which is, "It's obvious you have given this job to an internal candidate judging by the total lack of interest shown by the 3 of you."  But I didn't... I just took it on the chin instead.

Then comes the phone call bang on 4pm Another example of a job being earmarked for someone even before I sat down to be interviewed was a couple of years ago, for the NHS.  The 2 women on the panel had pen and paper but CHOSE NOT TO WRITE ANYTHING DOWN!  Not surprisingly, I didn't get the job and the woman "rejecting" me on the phone said the reason they didn't write anything down was "we wrote detailed notes from memory after the interview as we found it can be very off-putting for candidates."  Yeah, right!

The way to win over people in an interview is simple; smile and hope for the best.  The first few seconds count!  One woman got a job where my Mum works because the interviewer "liked her suit."  If they go the other way and become jealous there's not a lot you can do about it!

By: Jane


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Marmite

Marmite

Just had an interview today alongside several others. A group interview, and we were told there was a listening exercise which would be marked and would single out people to go on or be sent away.
Panel sat there eating Maltesers, joking amongst themselves. Took very little interest and then told all of us we were unsuccessful. The jobs had already been earmarked. We all came out thinking it was extremely odd and very unprofessional.
So sad to waste good peoples time, money and patience with jobs for the boys.
Marmite
17th Apr 19 20:37

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@Dinah5, Nepotism (looking after your own family and friends) within the public sector in some councils within the UK is well known. Most jobs that have been advertised with a final closing date have been awarded already. These jobs must by law be offered to everyone to apply for, but, the higher the position and salary usually results in the job being already awarded. Very hard to prove as these corrupt indivduals work in a close knit group looking after themselves. You are not the first ,or will be the last to be overlooked, even if you are qualified. Good luck, I hope you'll find the work you want soon.
Next
29th Aug 18 10:02

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Dinah5

Dinah5

Hi , so glad to read all these similar stories (not good reading mind) . I had the dummy interview experience today by the sound of things. Very bored panel and not interested at all in you, your presentation or CPD folder.... Another job already spoken for in the local council, I probably only got an interview due to my age.. I was gutted when I got the 4pm call but I feel so much better now, that I am not a total failure.
Dinah5
28th Aug 18 21:48

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madasaboxoffrogs

madasaboxoffrogs

Just seen it first hand at , would you believe, the COOP, supposed to be ethical and all ? hahaha The one who got the job was even coached the day before interview and given not only the questions but what to say in answer !! even though better qualified people applied, the job was gone well before it was advertised, fair ? not really, seems it is all down to face fitting and who the bosses like, nothing to do with skill experience etc, and no , I didnt apply I just sat and watched it all unfold.
madasaboxoffrogs
23rd Sep 16 12:43

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DiamondEFC

DiamondEFC

I can firmly state that there exists a kind of psychotic mentality within a lot of companies in this day and age.

I currently work for Learn Direct processing and collating applications and meeting applicants for job vacancies working for Learn Direct itself and I have experienced on many occasions applicants who are more than qualified and experienced who have attended interviews unaware that the position has already been filled by someone internally.

I find it quite upsetting that applicants who I have met and have all the relevant requirements including qualifications, experience and good character are invited for ficticious interviews at Learn Direct not knowing that the position has been predetermined and given to an apprentice or other junior.

One of the reasons Learn Direct do this is so that they can start these people on the lower end of the pay scale to save some money.

To be honest I am ashamed to be working for a company like Learn Direct and I would not recommend any job seekers to apply for any Learn Direct positions as you will not only lose out on the money and time you have invested going to the interview but it will also knock your confidence.

Basically it comes down to this. All applicants should be equal when applying for a job position and being an internal applicant shoud not be an advantage.

Shame on you Learn Direct as you should be practising what you preach!
DiamondEFC
27th Jun 14 14:36

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Unemployed and Unmarketable

Unemployed and Unmarketable

Large telecom in North America, interviewed there twice in 4 years for same job in different departments, interviewed by 2 different guys...each interview over and done in less than 30 minutes, pretended to be interested in my portfolio of samples, no specific job related questions but only standard boilerplate interview questions on how I would deal with an uncooperative coworker. Each time I got the sorry, you were close but we hired someone internally replay. Each time I was sent there through an employment agency (headhunter) who never verified anything on my cv, never checked my references, nothing....all these up front were red flags....I hate liars, but there seem to be too many of them...
Unemployed and Unmarketable
12th May 14 15:13

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Peter Principle

Peter Principle

The good news for all of you who have been to a stitch-up or dummy interview or have been to an interview where a candidate has been pre-selected based on friendship, being a relative or some other connection to the boss...every organisation that acts like tends to fail as they recruit incompetent staff who lack knowledge and motivation to do the job well (they dont need to be good as they know the boss - playground politics). Even within schools, NHS, councils and public sector bodies the incompetents do get found out...eventually, when because of their status they make big mistakes.

I knew someone who worked in a company who managed to secure the business of all the Formula 1 teams, but who was moved side-ways in the organisation and a leggy blonde (no offence) who was very flirty with and to the senior mangers in the department got the position. Because she had got her position based on looks rather than commercial ability within 6 months all the F1 teams had moved to competitor companies. Oh and she was made redundant soon after as people higher up who were impressed by having secured all the Formula 1 teams were a bit miffed that they lost them all so very quickly i.e. within 4 months.

So next time you have a bad interview and the feedback is ludicrous...just remember the above and take heart...remeber they will be failing soon
Peter Principle
29th Apr 14 12:12

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Grumpy xx

Grumpy xx

Equal opportunities create a lot of problems. Companies are now legally obliged not to discriminate on race, sex, religion or age and to avoid complaints, whilst still indulging in rampant discrimination (mainly age), they now go to greater lengths to carry out dummy interviews with a mix of people they have no intention of hiring whose face doesn't fit. After all, they have nothing to lose except a bored assessment panel's time, but you do when you pay a fortune in time and fares to get there in the first place.
Grumpy xx
16th Nov 13 18:07

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Nick

Nick

I suppose the company should reimburse your travel cost? If they wouldn't even do that, it just shows how dodgy this company is and you should not have attended the interview in the first place.
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8th Nov 13 10:19

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ben

ben

Yesterday. Yesterday I was interviewed for a role I have exceptional experience in, would have been a great fit in the council.. but there were a few nagging things that did not sit quite right:
- they didnt even have my CV on the table
- they asked me questions that were so rapid fire and specific, I believe no one who had not worked there could reasonably answer them (quesions about events/policies that have been removed from their mandate for about 5 years, that no amount of prior research could dig up)
- they did not ask why I was applying, or even to tell them about myself

It was a truly humiliating experience, that cost me quite a bit in lost wages and train fair to partake in. Why cant people just advertise internal only? It saves people like me a lot of time, money and dignity.
ben
7th Nov 13 10:37

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Jamie

Jamie

Interview yesterday for a job that I am already doing (having moved need something closer) and with having 5 years experience and being suitably qualified and the interview going brilliant I thought I was in for a good shot.. I got a voicemail today to advise I was not successful and I have to write to Human Resources for the reason why. I was up against 3 existing employees and 2 external like myself (All in reception and they had their work passes on)?? They asked 4 questions and a scenario (quickest interview evveerrr). The interview was short notice and was not my normal experience and format of past interviews. I believe one of the existing employees got the job as its not what you know its who you know and to also add there have been many redundancies within this company recently that are still ongoing as far as I believe. If this is the case why waste peoples time and just advertise as an internal vacancy??
Jamie
23rd Oct 13 15:52

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ahforfoulkessake

ahforfoulkessake

secondly,
I was in a weirdly similar situation as i worked for a cleaning contractor who clean a major chain of supermarkets up and down the UK and applied for a job with the supermarket itself and was told that anyone from the outside joe public could apply but preferences would be for current X supermarket employees but I was not allowed to apply due to working for the contractor who are closely alligned to their company. MADNESS.
I hope you've had more luck since then with jobhunting.
ahforfoulkessake
24th Jun 13 16:25

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ahforfoulkessake

ahforfoulkessake

hi macca,
im not sure how your situation came about but I'll hazard a guess and suggest that legally they had to advertise despite more or less knowing who they wanted to fill the vacancy.
If someone in the company was promoted or moved departments surely their old job was open afterwards? Or perhaps the boss had a son/daughter/niece/nephew/neighbour's child/relative that needed a job and one was available?
ahforfoulkessake
24th Jun 13 16:21

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Macca

Macca

I have been out of work after being made redundant from public sector for 6 months and every, yes every job I have been interviewed for has gone internally! I have spoken with local MP and ACAS about this as I do not understand how the job market is supposed to get moving during this recession when the public sector continue to employ somebody who already has a job! There is a piece of legislation under the equal ops act that may assist as it states you cannot be discriminated against an internal candidate when applying for a job..that's if you don't mind burning a few bridges with the employer that is..but it is good leverage if you want to question the employers decision.
Macca
25th May 13 07:21

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Jason

Jason

Just get used to it. A lot of job interviews are little more than formalities. They are there just to show to the public that the process is 'open' and 'transparent' with the chosen candidate already fixed.
Jason
16th May 13 09:14

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