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Teachers returning to work after absence due to illness

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I have a general gripe about recruitment agencies and the lack of support from the Department of Education and TDA for teachers who have been out of the profession for a couple of years.

I don't care what recruitment consultants say, it is just bad manners, rude and unprofessional when they don't even reply when a read receipt on e-mails sent is requested.  How long does it take to click a button to send a response?  When I was working in world sales I was expected to reply to any customer communications, even just to say that I got your email and am looking into your request.

I am now a qualified teacher (since 2003), but have been out of the profession for the past 3 years due to illness.  Agencies won't touch me due to some 2 year rule, but there is no such rule, the Recruitment and Employment Confederation (REC), TDA and Department of Education have not set this rule!  I am fully up to speed with current curricula in my subject (ICT).  As you might know, the Government only provides re-training for Maths, English, Science & MFL teachers.  What about the rest of us?

I have contacted my local MP about the Governments' policies on teacher training, re-training etc.  A recent reply from the Minister of State for Education was basically `tough luck`, try offering your services to schools for free!  This will not pay the bills, however.  I have contacted around 11 local secondary schools in the past month, only 3 have replied - even the schools are rude!

Teachers returning to work after absence. I absolutely do not trust this agency...

Going back to the recruitment agencies.  This week I applied for several recruitment/trainee recruitment roles with TeacherActive in Manchester.  I was flatly rejected by the Internal Recruitment & Training Officer (based in Birmingham).  Going back to what some recruitment consultants say about suitability for roles, who better to do a recruitment consultants role than someone who used to deal with Supermarket manufacturers in a sales role (therefore I am able to negotiate and communicate with schools on a high level), and someone who can understand the needs, wants and abilities of teachers (given that I am a qualified teacher)?

I was also recently contacted by an agency called VIDA REC based in Blackpool.  They are being rude by not replying to me when they say they will, and this is from the Director - so I absolutely do not trust this agency!

I am also in dispute with Tradewind Recruitment (Manchester Office) (Part of SANZA).  I registered with them last November after I complained to the Recruitment Confederation about them.  They tried to use the 2 year rule and Quality Mark as an excuse for not registering.  They were soon put in their place by REC.  They now refuse to re-register me, after not giving me a single days work in the past year.  The stupid excuse from the Branch Manager is `what if we get a complaint from the Governors, Parents etc, what has this person done in the past 2 years?` My response was, 'does this mean that I will be unprofessional, does it mean that only teachers employed by schools etc.  are exempt from being complained about?' How petty are they?

Sorry for ranting and raving, but employers and the Government of this country need to improve their efforts and mind set to facilitate the employment of returning teachers!

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Inthesameboat

Inthesameboat

Oh dear, the computer keyboard got stuck. Obviously government cuts in schools - we can't afford new ones. You'll be criticising me next. Oh - actually, you already have been!

Anyway, whatever you wrote - you need to use the present perfect tense - and NEVER have been.....
Inthesameboat
5th Feb 14 11:08

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Inthesame boat

Inthesame boat

Er...where did I say I was unemployed? I'm using agencies because I want to CHANGE my job. My husband is moving to be nearer his family and I'm trying to get fixed up ahead of time. I'm been working since I left university in 1982.

Oh, by the way 'Working the System', in your post you wrote 'and NEVER had been for the last been for the last 40 years'. That should be 'and NEVER have been....'

Were you away when they did grammar at school?
Inthesame boat
5th Feb 14 11:05

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Working the System

Working the System

Ouch! Still unemployed are we....@ "inthesameboat"?

I'm not,...... and NEVER had been for the last 40 years.

Take a good hard look in the attitude mirror, but be careful you don't crack it.
Working the System
28th Dec 13 23:01

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inthesameboat

inthesameboat

To: Working the System
'Could it be that both of you are "In the same boat" because you come across as serial complainers'

I hardly think that wishing employment agencies would reply counts as being a serial complainer!! Anyway, isn't this what a gripe site is for - you numpty!
inthesameboat
15th Dec 13 05:44

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CaveatMoreo

CaveatMoreo

One further thing I should have added, to my response below, Job Agencies are not governed. You can buy (cheaply) web site space and rebrand to you new company name. You don't have to register the company initially - until your making loads of dosh and then your better pay your taxes.

You advertise roles on one of the many job sites and have all CVs directed to you. Thrown out a number of false job adverts and collect hundreds of CVs. This is then your candidate list. I know all this because I had a friend running his own agency and he explained how he set it all up. By the way they all do this.
CaveatMoreo
11th Dec 13 09:39

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CaveatMoreo

CaveatMoreo

All agencies are the same. You’re either a commodity or your not, and if they cannot sell your skills quickly and make a fast buck, then you’re not worth the hassle

Every employer and profession uses agencies now.

I have a tip for you, open your own job agency, you could both make money and find roles for those in your situation. There is no real rules governing this and you could do it from home.

Agencies get a back log of skills and candidates by adverting false jobs that sound great with a good salary. Hundreds then reply and the agency then has a database of candidates. They then contact employers in its local area to see what vacancies are available, before pushing their ill gotten CVs out and hopefully making some money. They often charge 20 to 30% of the eventual salary as a referral fee.

I’ve never been employed in a agency but I have been placed by them for at least the last 20 years and know that they only contact me where the employer is interested or when they cannot fill a role in outer Mongolia.

In principal all agents have questionable parentage.
CaveatMoreo
11th Dec 13 09:33

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Working the System

Working the System

Could it be that both of you are "In the same boat" because you come across as serial complainers.
I certainly would be wary of employing the original poster who I could end up paying a whole load of sick pay to in the future!
Working the System
8th Dec 13 21:41

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InTheSameBoat

InTheSameBoat

Seeing the stupid comment below, I wanted to add something to this thread. I certainly empathise with your complaint that recruitment agencies and places of work don't reply. Some of their application forms can take up to 2 hours to complete, all the time trying to make sure that you are ticking all the boxes. The personal statement especially can take a long time to get just right. It is really rude not to reply to applicants, considering the amount of time they have spent. Could they not send a group email to all failed applicants (hiding email addresses of course) just to let them know? It wouldn't take all that long, considering all the IT expertise available nowadays. I am also a bit wary of recruitment agencies that photocopy your passport - wouldn't it just be enough for you to bring in the passport and let them tick a box to say they had seen it?
InTheSameBoat
20th Nov 13 15:25

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electriceel

electriceel

Missing the Holidays are we?..........

(HaHa Just kidding,.... my Daughter is a teacher and I know how darn hard she works)

Good luck, Most agencys are rude nowadays.
electriceel
10th Nov 13 22:33

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lolcat

lolcat

Wow, a teacher moaning. This must be a first.
lolcat
8th Nov 13 14:56

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