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Why are English people so cold? Perhaps this is the reason so many foreigners fail to integrate properly into society in the UK? I am a foreigner totally grateful to the UK for giving me a passport (married to a Brit for 21 years) as the chances of being killed where I come from are pretty good.
However, in all the time I spent living in the UK (five years in total), although I'm blue-eyed, blonde and speak perfect English with just a 5% accent, I am always regarded as being foreign. All my friends are foreign too mainly because we have come to realise we are all in the same boat.
My best friend is Swedish and has lived here in the UK for about 12 years. Even after that length of time living in the UK she says I am still the only person who has ever invited her home for a coffee!
We're told we have to be patient and that it takes time for an English person to trust you (say four years of knowing you), but then once they are friends with you, they are the best friends in the world. Well, I'm afraid I've given up trying and hoping.
you really don't want us to be here
Is it perhaps because your mothers never breast fed you and thus did not expose you to the first essential human warmth that we should all know? Or is it because you really are all xenophobic and your government, in its multicultural tendencies has failed to realise this basic truth? Perhaps it is just because you are SO polite, politically correct and you really don't want us to be here, so instead of telling us sincerely, you pretend to put up with us because you really don't want to become our friends?
Since first moving to the UK, I decided to move away again and have lived abroad for seven years. During that time I have never failed to make friends with the locals, and quickly too. So why are the English so aloof with foreigners?
By: Andypandy
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Not wonder when English people reach old age they tend to be lonely painfully lonely well is the price to pay for being so so unfriendly.
I have witnessed this.
They're hard to read. A good English person is solid gold. They are honest . will help you and look after you because they are tough and resourceful. But they are still English and I refer to what I said before - hard wired in their mentality.
The world itself has become pretty awful for many so I don't think it's just an "English thing" but if you find England unfriendly it's not just you.
We've since moved to England (Reading) in Oct 2022, asnmt girlfriend always wanted to live in Britain as she had some pleasant holidays here, loves the humour, and on rellflection had some misguided idea that she would find it easier to make friends here and have more parties compared to back home...nothing could have been further from the truth.
Since being here, we've been ripped off by a moving company who couldn't do their job properly and extorted £1300 out of us for their mistake before they would deliver our belongings. We've had UK government advice lines willfully mislead us on how to apply for a visa for my girlfriend, which cost us £1800 in non-refundable visa application fees. Neither of us have been able to use the NHS since we've been here, and to cap it off, I lost my ability to drive because the DVLA couldn't be bothered to check my records when I asked if I would be allowed to drive on my Swedish license (turns out of you have a previous UK license this overrules any foreign license).
All this and far more headaches within less than a year. I've since decided to move back to Sweden as I honestly don't believe people here can be trusted, especially within business or government. I truly believe that this country has managed to construct such an overwhelmingly complex legal system here,never gone feels strangled by it and unable to do anything about it. I think people here have been screwed over so many times by broken, non-sensical laws that they are left with nothing but bitterness, and a need to take out that bitterness on the easiest target they can find (usually nice, honest, soft spoken people).
People will chat briefly--I have many acquaintances-- but they are genuinely terrified of friendship. It's a lack of confidence, I think. And the way English parents raise their children to fear strangers, which includes most people outside a very tight circle of family and people they've known since childhood.
I understand caution, but the English take it to paranoid extremes. I might get into a friendly conversation with strangers on a local sea walk or in a park, where we talk about shared interests. I might run into this person on several occasions and each time we have a pleasant chat--at the end of which I'll say, "I'm Ani by the way." I can't tell you how many times the other person (or people) just stare at me in shocked silence at my invitation for them to introduce themselves. It reminds me that despite appearances, they are just chatting "to be polite," not because I am worthwhile.
The term that gets touted a lot is "tolerant." "Britain is a tolerant society." That means, in practice, the opposite of what it thinks it's saying. It means the English tolerate you, as someone holds their nose and allows you to exist (lucky you!). Heaven forbid actual appreciation for what outsiders contribute to this often insular society. It's not inclusion.
At this point, I comfort myself with knowing I'll be snubbed no matter what I do. It's freeing, actually!
I'm miserable here. I am tired of being bullied just because I'm nice, and they perceive me as weak.
I am not a foreigner but certainly feel like it. I can't fit into the dumb as fuck working class society.
Their gripe is at the government and their own poor lifestyle choices. Just look at the sour, unfeminine slags that pass for "women".
Don't like football, not interested in Brexit, and the royal family should be sent back to their ancestral homeland in Germany.
Additionally, there's a horrible psychic noise, bad energy here. Not a calm place. Don't feel sane here.
I have lived in the UK for awhile now and it used to be British people were polite but insincere. You never knew when you were going to get stabbed in the back. Now they're just rude, even more xenophobic, selfish and still insincere.
I have children here - I think about leaving everyday but my husband is English and he doesn't want to leave for financial reasons. So I'm stuck here commiserating with my expat friends. And I feel sorry for my children having to be raised here. Thankfully they're dual citizens so when they turn 18, I'm going to convince them to get the hell out of here.
I also notice a lot of comments here and elsewhere by some Brits who are in massive denial about the state of their country and the decimation of communities and of the lack of humanity here. Your problems won't be solved by sticking your heads in the sand "ostrich" style. Stop defending your fellow countrymen when they're displaying antisocial behaviours here and abroad. There's a reason certain EU countries are limiting tourists from the UK, there's a reason that the UK does so poorly in the Eurovision Song Contest (yes I know you placed second last year but that was due to exceptional circumstances). A lot of you are NOT liked. For those warm, welcoming Brits this message is not directed at you. I've met some. I just feel tremendously sorry for you and wish I could take you back to my country so you know what a fully functioning society with real communities and warmth and kindness are like.





Nicole
In my experience of having lived in 3 different countries, they make the worse, low-quality, uncommitted, unloyal friends of all. They are often too complicated and come up with an array of excuses to not mingle, help, etc. (the very best friend they haven't seen for years - but never talked to you about... because it doesn't even exist!; the family visit and the very tight deadline are some of their favourite excuses - but you know they are lying most of the time). I once asked a "friend" a favour as I had to rush off to hospital, and they came out with the "tight deadline" lie. I knew they were lying. At least in this occasion they had the decency to confess to me a few days later that they were lying.
I shudder to think how they are told this behaviour when they are kids within the privacy of the family ("if abc asks you for a favour, just lie and here are your options: the deadline thingy, the very best friend and so on"). Their selfishness is unique and high contrast with how much they are always ready to take from others, as they did during empire.
It it weren't for family ties, I would have left a long time ago. I miss my uncomplicated, straight-forward friends from my home country. Wanna go out for a bit? Yes or no, that's it. With English people is a whole, exhausting, debilitating palavva and I have had enough and given up. I resent the dishonesty and the eternal drama, the selfishness, the lack of seriousness, the hardly ever arriving in time, the frequent cancelling or, worse, the not even turning up and not even telling you. Never ever in my life I have met people so disrespectful to others.
WORSE FRIENDS EVER, indeed, most don't qualify for the word "Friend".
But of course, they will turn it around to make themselves feel good.
Examples: They don't turn up in time to do something agreed by a group of people? They will say something like "Oh, you haven't left me any work". It's brilliant, their capacity to let others down and still blame you for it. It was your fault! You didn't leave them any work to do! Unbearable dishonesty.
I understood long ago and joined the 100,000 foreigners who've given up and just accept things as they are. I take the smile in the street together with the neighbour who would never say hello even after 10 years, the chat at the corner shop together with those who would never greet you in the street althogh you've been working with them for years organising, discussing, putting projects together and so on... but look down or just stare blankly at you when they see you in the streets.
Oh well, let's enjoy their great music, the occasional fish&chips too and rid with it! Nothing much we foreigners can do to change an emotionally stunt nation to scared to open up and delve into the, yes sometimes scary, regions of friendship. It's their tragedy too and probs explain the high levels of suicide in their country.