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I really do think that smokers have got to be the most filthy, inconsiderate and rudest bunch of people around.  For example, whilst happily sat in the non-smoking area of my local pub last Friday night, a group of four twenty somethings sat on the table next to us and proceeded to light up and hid the cigarettes under the table.  My partner and I glared across at them and questioned whether we were sitting in the non-smoking section of the pub which we knew we were.  This of course made no difference and the youths continued to smoke.

sitting in the non-smoking section ...

So when I next went up to the bar to get a round a drinks in I checked with the manager and she confirmed that we were sitting in the non-smoking section.  So I them told her about the people smoking next to us.  She quite rightly dealt with the situation straight away and as you can imagine they weren't very happy about it.  On another occasion I have seen a couple of young girls smoking in another non-smoking section of the pub which has leather sofas.   They were flicking their ash behind the sofa and when they finished with their cigarettes were disposing of them in empty wine glasses that were on the table next to them.

About two months ago we had a young couple with a baby moved in to the house next door to us.  Now all I seem to see on the road at the back of the house and the path on the front of the house is old cigarette butts.  This is absolutely disgusting.  Why do they do that?  Can't they dispose of them somewhere properly instead of being so lazy.

Another incident I came across the other day was when I was on my way home from work.  I was driving down the dual carriage way and noticed the car in front of me threw something out of the window, it looked like a clear piece of plastic wrapping.  Then they threw a piece of paper out of the window.  It was a this point that I expected to see them light a cigarette and of course they did.  Why are these people just so dirty and don't seem to care about littering the place?

I think there should be fines put in place for smokers who smoke in non smoking areas and for those who do not properly dispose of their cigarette butts, likewise with people disposing of chewing gum.  But that's a whole different story.


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HR.

HR.

Interesting piece jethro which I can confirm. We in local government monitor this very closely and if one slips through the net it isn't long before they are relocated. Smokers are an obvious health risk to themselves and non smokers alike and the friction that these people cause in a no smoking environment is not worth the trouble. Most smokers refrain whilst at work, but they just cannot hide the smell of tobacco on themselves and this fact is soon highlighted.
HR.
14th Oct 13 17:28

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Nick

Nick

The government is deliberately blind because tobacco sales generate a lot of TAX - tax they cannot afford to lose.
Nick
14th Oct 13 12:22

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Jethro

Jethro

There is now growing evidence that job applicants are being asked by employers at interview to confirm they do not smoke/use tobacco products or intend to start smoking if they are given employment. Some are asked to sign a contract to that effect. Some employers ask for a medical beforehand and have been known to analyze a urine sample for traces of nicotine. This, I believe will only apply in bigger organizations where funding is better, but it does show the trend towards none acceptance for cigarette smokers in the work place.
Jethro
14th Oct 13 12:00

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Alf Red

Alf Red

I have never smoked even though I worked close to people who did and both my grandfathers smoked pipes. I loved the smell of tobacco smoke back then. Now, I have no sense of smell whatsoever and cannot smell smoke, but I do have asthma and I don't want to make it worse or bring on an attack, so I avoid anywhere where people are smoking.
There are some people out there who are totally brainless...we were at an outdoor event recently and not far in front of us was a young man who had a small child in his arms and he was smoking, with the smoke going right into the little-one's face. What a thoughtless moron.
Alf Red
16th Jul 12 17:24

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Smokie

Smokie

Not really sure how to take that MD lol but thank you - I think lol. I believe in choice and many people do a lot of things that are bad for them, driving too fast, drinking too much, eating too much, taking drugs both prescription and illegal ............ the list could be endless really but we should be free to make those choices without being persecuted as long as the choices we make to not affect other people adversely.
Smokie
11th Jun 12 21:06

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MD

MD

Smokie, I hope for you're sake that you do not contract any smoking related terminal diseases because in the later stages you may not be so lucky to be cared for by someone with you're principles.
MD
11th Jun 12 16:35

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smokie

smokie

Smokers should not be smoking in no smoking areas, end of. However I do smoke, have an education, do not live on a council estate, and have a job. I am also considerate to where I smoke as I realise that no one else wants to breathe in my smoke, whether it's harmful or not, they just don't want to do it. I am not disgusting, I dispose of my cigarette ends either where they are supposed to be extinguished and disposed of or put it out, make sure it's cold and then bin it. Yes I know the health risks to me, and I am educated enough to understand them, I have nursed lung cancer patients who smoked, I know what's coming. However I have also nursed liver, stomach and bowel cancer patients who never smoked. I have also nursed dementia patients who never smoked, drank or took many drugs prescribed or otherwise. My grandfather smoked for 10 years in his youth and drank in moderation, he died from liver cancer and secondary lung in his mid 70's, my other grandmother smoked 40 a day for 60 years give or take and died at 87 from heart failure. Possibly brought on by cigarettes but possibly not. It's my choice and I try to keep my choice from adversely affecting others, I know not everyone is the same but don't tar everyone with the same brush.
smokie
11th Jun 12 15:10

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MD

MD

Miserable, Thank you for you're support, but it has never given me any pleasure hearing of people dying from smoking related diseases, or listening to loved ones who have just lost someone dear to them. It is only at the point of no return that smokers realize what they have done to themselves and then must face the horrors that await. I suppose what Iam saying will fall on deaf ears and there will be no change to smokers attiudes. How sad that people are paying such a high price to kill themselves in such a horrible way!
MD
9th Jun 12 17:03

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miserablemoaninggit

miserablemoaninggit

I agree with MD. I hardly think that being a smoker allows one to 'categorically' make a claim to superior intellectual capability - quite the opposite I would think. At the end of the day, I'm sure that MD - forgive me MD if I'm putting words into your mouth - does not give a damn about the health of smokers, about whether they die from lung cancer, or some other smoking-related disease. I certainly do not.

The key issue is the sheer filth of the habit and the fact that it permeates and pollutes the atmosphere of others within the breathing space of smokers. It looks disgusting and smells disgusting. It is simply a foul habit.
miserablemoaninggit
9th Jun 12 14:24

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MD

MD

Then "confidently and with complete peace of mind" play russian roulette with lung cancer and the horrors that this disease brings! But, in your case you are too intelligent and intellecually capable to forsee this.
MD
9th Jun 12 07:02

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M.D. is a Moron

M.D. is a Moron

Confidently and with complete peace of mind.

Your latest post has only served to emphasise and further vindicate my statement.

Thanks.
M.D. is a Moron
8th Jun 12 21:17

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MD

MD

How dare you class yourself as far more intelligent and intellecually capable and then admit you are a smoker, you silly little person. You may have convinced and brain washed yourself that your disgusting addiction is acceptable, but us non-smokers still view you as a filthy little angry moron that stinks.
MD
8th Jun 12 15:16

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M.D. is a Moron

M.D. is a Moron

M.D.
You have displayed outstanding levels of ignorance, contradiction and lack of intellect. Please enlighten me regarding the similar environment that 'smokers' apparently 'abide' in. Confused? - Exactly, so am I, your statement doesn't even make sense. It might surprise you to know that 'drugs' include alcohol, paracetamol, caffeine, anti-biotics etc - all of these drugs and pretty much all drugs are potentially physically and phsycologically addictive and very few of them require you to roll up your sleeve and jack up with a syringe. I'm a smoker and I can catagorically and confidently state that I'm far more intelligent and intellectually capable than yourself. On the presumption that you are not a smoker, that renders another one of your statements as both false and untrue.
You also stated "Nicotene is most probably one of the most addictive drugs known" - this fascinates me, in a world containing morphene, heroin, cocaine, paracetamol, THC, etc, you claim that it is actually nicotene that is 'probably' the most addictive drug. You demonstrate complete ignorance and indeed arrogance regarding factual information that is freely available and readily accessible.
Congratulations.
M.D. is a Moron
8th Jun 12 12:53

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M.D.

M.D.

Sorry, typo, Sleeves, in a bit of a rush to start rounds.
M.D.
2nd Apr 12 16:52

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M.D.

M.D.

It is useless trying to convince smokers (nicotine addicts) in the error of their ways. Nicotine is most probably one of the most additive drugs known. This,after long use robs the user of all self respect and judgement. Smokers(nicotine addicts) will use any excuse at their means to justify their habit, even medical advice. A committed smoker will only try to quit when they realize the damage it is doing to loved ones, or they begin to feel unwell and rejected by others. Most smokers unfortunatley, have lower intelligence and abide in a simular enviroment. It is true that smokers are paying dearly for their addiction and eventual painfull death. Other drug addicts have one advantage over smokers, they can roll down their sleves.
M.D.
2nd Apr 12 16:49

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