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Now I know that this gripe is going to get the backs up of a fair few people, but speaking as both a resident parent of one child and a non resident parent of another child I know what I am talking about.

I had my first child as a single mum some years ago.  I was not a child myself at shr 23, and I wholeheartedly accepted this child was my decision and I would take any responsibility financially.  I met (I thought at the time) a wonderful man when my daughter was two and we set up home together.  From the start I had made it clear that I didn't want anymore children and was quite distressed to find myself pregnant a couple of years later.  This is a particularly difficult thing to talk about, BUT I was very clear on my unhappiness with this pregnancy, particularly as I was no longer happy with my husband.  I had absolutely no inclination to be a mum again.  My husband, however, begged me to keep the child and even promised that if we split up he would be full time carer.  So against my better judgement I went ahead and here comes the gripe.  As expected, within a couple of years my husband and I had separated.  I had met someone else and it was all over.  I carried on as full time mum to my first child (my daughter) and my husband had residency of our son (although I had regular access of 2 or 3 nights per week).  Many may think this strange, but as said previously I didn't want any more children and my husband had been aware of that.

The problems have just started recently with the CSA.  My husband re-married and moved to Sweden.  Up until that point I had been paying 40 cash per week maintenance from my self-employed earnings.  On moving to Sweden my payments ceased as my ex-husband had given the impression they were no longer required.  I'm not sure if this just happened because he didn't think he could claim through the CSA whilst living out of the UK.  Anyway, in June last year I had a rather snotty letter from the CSA asking for child support of nearly 170 per month.  I called them and they admitted that they hadn't decided if my ex-husband was eligible or not, apparently it was an ongoing matter.

Resident parents I heard nothing else from the CSA until October 2008 when I was asked for nearly 170 maintenance for that month.  I started making payments again although I was struggling to do so.  As is the case with many other self -employed people my business had taken a hit from the credit crunch.  The CSA works out maintenance from your last tax year, even if your earnings this year are much less and that was the case for me.  My earnings weren't as high as last year and I was struggling bringing up my daughter as a single parent.  The CSA weren't interested in the fact I was a month behind with my rent because of my financial difficulties or that we could be evicted from our home at any moment.  They told me it was more important to pay child support than pay my rent to keep the roof over my other child's head.  How can this possibly be acceptable?  My ex-husband has now re-married to a woman with a PHD (presumably with a reasonable income).  My son lives with my husband and is in no way going without.  He goes to a good school and is going on a 2 week holiday to Italy very soon with my ex-husband.  My daughter lives with me and has no chance of a holiday like that any time soon because of the financial situation we are in.

To add insult to injury I was then given a court summons for backdated child support in December 2008.  This amounted to another 1000.  Over January and February I struggled to pay 300 of the arrears as well as my regular payment.  I went to court yesterday and explained my situation as a single mum and how every month I am paying what I can afford to the CSA, how I really can't pay the rest of the arrears off in full.  I was coldly told they would still be applying for the liability order as the 300 of arrears I have paid wasn't enough.  I am absolutely disgusted at how I have been treat in this case.  They do not allow for one tax years earnings to be less than the previous, and they do not consider that one child may suffer for the benefit of another.  My daughter who lives with me was my first child, brought into the world single-handedly and promised I alone would take care of.  My son (from my marriage) lives with my husband in a family with two parents and is in absolutely no hardship whatsoever.

It is about time the CSA was seriously overhualed and circumstances were actually taken into account when calculating rates of maintenance.  I have never had a problem paying something towards the upkeep of my son, but at a rate that is reasonable and not taking food out of my first child's mouth.  It would appear that the wrong people are victimised every day by the CSA.  I'm now waiting for a bailiffs order to be issued as I could not pay the outstanding arrears in court yesterday; arrears I didn't even know existed until December!

Throughout all this I also have had to put up with the fact that my ex-husband could have stopped all this and drawn up a private agreement.  My daughter still calls him dad from when we were married, but I think she's beginning to realise that this man doesn't actually care about her welfare.  I get a little sick of resident parents and their 'POOR ME' attitude.  I have never expected any help for my daughters upbringing.  I have worked all my life and have done the best I can.  It was ultimately my choice to have my daughter on my own.  My ex-husband acts like a martyr to the cause because he has main residency of our son.  Hark.. I can hear the violins playing.

By: Nicole


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Dan

Dan

Let me give you a simple solution - move abroad and all is forgiven!
24/06/13 Dan
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Candice

Candice

I am seriously upset with some of these comments on here. No one knows peoples circumstances and why decisions are made. Yes, people need to pay for their children when they are non resident. I am unfortunately one of these people as well. I for 6 years had shared custody of my children under a informal agreement. I supported my to be ex husband in his "political" career for many years and was very unhappy. I left. Not my children but him. I got another home for them. Oh, I signed the house over to him and took on some of the debt we had between us. Any other arrangements made for money were not fulfilled on his behalf. I was working part time earning £750 / month when we separated. On no account did I go to the CSA to ask him for money... not once.. it did cross my mind on many occassions. I put my career one hold for years bringing up our children and this is how he repays me. I had to move away recently as I could not get a job locally. I signed over the child benefit (which he continually asked for over the years!) which I will acknowledge that he is entiltled to. He is now threatening me with the CSA. I do pay for what I can under an informal agreement but it isn't enough. He earns nearly £100K if not more for his political expenses. I earn a fraction of this!! When is what they are earning enough???? When will the CSA look at the whole picture rather than just the non parents earnings and/or what they contributed before and the standard of living of the resident parent.
07/02/12 Candice
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Zip

Zip

There are many reasons why parents aren't with there children. I do not have mine with me and yes I am a woman. My children's Father and I use that word very loosely has managed to convince my children that I have abandoned them which for the record I haven't. He has manipulated them and is the a vile man. When the children lived with me I never once asked for any money from him as he said he couldn't afford to pay the mortgage and maintenance, He now has the children and as soon as he got them he was straight onto the CSA. I haven't a problem paying for my children and would give them the world if I could. But that excuse of a man didn't pay the mortgage after I left and now I am left with that as well. I am not a supporter of the BNP like someone has suggested most people on here are, they need to stop judging people and look at the full facts before making rash remarks. Good luck to you Nic and your ex sounds like a first class A***
07/11/11 Zip
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Disgusted

Disgusted

I am feeling quite sick of your poor me attittude. Keep your legs shut if you are so intent on not having a child. You have abandoned your son and he is going to have to live with that because of you. You make me sick. You are totally heartless. I think a few CSA payments is the least you can do for your poor son. You need to be utterly ashamed of yourself
10/09/11 Disgusted
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AngryMan

AngryMan

Think yourself lucky, the csa made zero contact with me for four years, then BANG hit me for £500 a month for one child and back payments on top of that. They had me in court, took my car off me and tried to jail me.... CSA are evil vile and need to die!
19/08/11 AngryMan
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csascum

csascum

I'm in the same position as you and i'm female. Ignore the other tossers on here they haven't a clue! xx chin up x
25/05/11 csascum
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Scott

Scott

Well to be fair you admit you sent your son to live with his dad, that wasnt anybody elses doing. So why should you get to wriggle out of supporting him? It sounds like youve decided to wash your hands of him emotionally and so feel like you can do financially! If this was a mans gripe then all hell would break lose but because your a woman its okay to let your son go without so you and your godsend of a daughter can have nice things. Your the one playing the martyr here, know one else. If you need support then go chasing your daughters father.
23/04/11 Scott
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mary

mary

It does not matter why Nic had the child and dont make her feel bad ,,,,,,,,,,,,,dad has her child and his happy thats all that counts.
13/04/11 mary
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mary

mary

Good on you Nic for telling it ,,,,,,,how it is and take no notice of people like the one who typed comment Poor You!! 27-Mar-2011 15:56
13/04/11 mary
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Poor You!!

Poor You!!

Nicole.....you are a disgusting parent...and should be made to pay for the child YOU abandoned!!!!
27/03/11 Poor You!!
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V For Vengeance

V For Vengeance

Every CSA office in the land should be burned down to the ground, it's staff thrown behind bars in jail for the misery they have caused resulting in suicides which is the same as deliberately caused pre-meditated murder in my eyes. They must be destroyed.
26/02/11 V For Vengeance
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Linz

Linz

The person I really feel sorry for in this is the Child...

I cant believe the amount of people supporting this woman. But then again in a pole of people who visit this website, the vast majority of them apprently support the BNP.... enough said.

This isnt ABOUT the CSA and money! This is about the apparent ABANDONMENT of a child by its mother. At least the child has its father and stepmother to care for and love him... And another shocking thing is that people seem to think that if a parent gets rearried then their responsibilities too their child should stop... Its all very backwards and bizarre....
24/11/10 Linz
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So saddened

So saddened

The situation isn't much better in Australia, My fiancee's ex is trying to gain $5000 more per year on an income that doesn't exist they want so many things and they will send them on to the ex, she gets to see his wage slips, letters from employers and anything else and then she goes and spreads it on a public site which should be against the law. She expects us to ignore our dependent children which at the moment are suffering because financially we're tight and she wants more.. She has announced that her child was born to my fiancee first there fore she must come first ignoring the fact that my daughter from a previous relationship is 3 years older than her daughter. She screams everywhere that she isn't getting what she is entitled to from him and he should be paying the higher amount because it's his child and should support her (which he is, with the right amount) She sits on dole payments and lives off what the Australian government gives her as well as the two fathers from her 3 children. How is she personally supporting her children when she sits at home all day? all her kids are in school and she just has un declared product parties and that's about it. My fiancee works hard, he does overtime so we survive, I would work but I suffer with Social Anxiety Disorder which i'm slowly over coming and I also have a child at home who doesn't start school until next year and also there is so many doctors and specialist appointments I would be fired within the 3 months I would better than to go back to work because then my fiancee could stop doing so many hours and then see how she likes her new payments but that at the moment is not easy done.
05/11/10 So saddened
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raymondo

raymondo

my son has had the same treatment. his wife abducted his two children and took them back to sweden she is swedish,the children are both english but she is noe earning 23,000 pound a year over there and she is trying to claim maintence from him.
27/09/10 raymondo
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non-resident

non-resident

I am experiencing the reverse situation as a non-resident parent living and working in Norway but with children living with ex-wife in UK. The CSA have just decided I come under their rules and re-assessed me. Having a bank account in the UK is apparently enough. Took them six months to come to their decision so now I have a thousand pound arrears. Added to which they are ignoring the voluntary payments I have made over the last 5 years. All I would like is a fair system. The CSA rules are not flexible enough to include proven cases of financial hardship. Like the Nicole these new payments put me at risk of default on mortgages and debt repayments. I would also like to see a balance with rights of access for the children. In my case I haven't been allowed to see my two daughters for 3 years now. Going to court just isn't financially viable and my ex contempted the last order.
28/08/10 non-resident
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