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Is there an uglier male fashion than a smart suit worn with an unbuttoned shirt and no tie? Almost invariably displayed on television nowadays by politicians and newscasters attempting to look "cool and with it", the actual result is that we are obliged to stare at several inches of pallid neck, bobbing Adam's apple and sparsely haired chest - thus distracting us from the seriousness of the news story.
this style of undress has largely become the habit of middle aged men...
It's noticeable that this style of undress has largely become the habit of middle aged men (John Prescott is now doing it - heaven help us!). It can't be long, therefore, before style-conscious younger men switch to something more becoming than a smart suit and an unbuttoned shirt.
May I suggest two alternatives to this scruffy fashion? Try the Nehru Jacket which was very popular in the 70's this style of jacket is actually based on the Indian sherwani apparently (see Wikipedia. It's smart, attractive and colourful, not to mention the fact that the high collar covers up those nasty double chins and unattractive wobbly throats perfectly!
Alternatively, how about the exquisitely-tied cravats worn by those 18th-Century dandies? At any rate though, lets loose the scruffy unbuttoned shirt thing and let's bring tasteful good looks back to our television screens!
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You look fab Windsor: I would love to know if your collar is in the shape of a 'V' though. I went into the toilet at work this morning and formed the 'v', but have been told it is too 'daring' for work :( sadly!
No idea who Big Jim is...
Today, grey suit (new), light pink shirt (double-cuffed), top button undone and tie in windsor knot down to between first and second.
Have a good day guys, and keep those ties loose!!
13/12/07 How loose
No idea who Big Jim is...
Today, grey suit (new), light pink shirt (double-cuffed), top button undone and tie in windsor knot down to between first and second.
Have a good day guys, and keep those ties loose!!
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hey how loose I have taken note of what you said today I am wearing my jeans commando, slim fit shirt and skinny tie with the top button undone. I am also sockless windsor in my brown slip ons, you sound really well turned out, as ever. what are the rest of you guys wearing today?
13/12/07 PJ
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morning guys today I am wearing charcoal suit blue and white stripped in a windsor top 2 buttons undone with knot pulled down to second one, brown oxfords sockless. sorry to hear that you can't go sockless in the office how loose, save it for the third friday in the month and weekends eh. does anyone know what big jim meant????? I have never had my collar tugged around by a boss not since I was small in school
13/12/07 windsor
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Hmm topbuttonundone.... these collar-feeling incidents that keep following you about... that's not fair at all, why should you have all the fun?? :)
Did this guy do his second button up again, after his collar was roughly felt, or did he leave it undone? How did he adjust his tie afterwards.... I bet his shirt was well and truly creased. I think under those circumstances, I may have at work a couple of extra shirts in case that happened to me, so that I could change into..!
The guy who got my tie from underneath my collar at the back tugged downwards, which made my tie come up and nearly strangle me. Of course it was all in fun and I paid him back for all his efforts afterwards... :)
Do you wear double-cuff shirts, or single cuff... and do you always wear windsor knot ties?
12/12/07 How loose
Did this guy do his second button up again, after his collar was roughly felt, or did he leave it undone? How did he adjust his tie afterwards.... I bet his shirt was well and truly creased. I think under those circumstances, I may have at work a couple of extra shirts in case that happened to me, so that I could change into..!
The guy who got my tie from underneath my collar at the back tugged downwards, which made my tie come up and nearly strangle me. Of course it was all in fun and I paid him back for all his efforts afterwards... :)
Do you wear double-cuff shirts, or single cuff... and do you always wear windsor knot ties?
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Men who leave their shirt unbuttoned - Are subject to being of Spanish descent - Be warned for you could end up being a waiter!
Case closed fellas
12/12/07 Big Jim
Case closed fellas
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Hey How Loose, no, I don't really mind getting my collar felt - its quite fun really and, yeah, cos I have 2 buttons undone, the tie races down to the 3rd button when he tugs the back of the collar hard! It's a little bit embarassing but it always creates a good discussion among my workmates about loose collars and ties! And, I'm not the only one who gets collared - I love seeing it happen to other guys - I actually got the guy who messes with my tie in trouble yesterday - after I tugged his tie down, the boss arrived back before he pulled it back up and promptly reefed him out of his chair by the back of his collar and his 2nd button popped undone!
The collar only gets badly ruffled when he twists and tugs it about for a long time, but hes not often that rough (although he was with this guy yesterday :) - nearly as bad as that next manager, it was hilarious to see him get reefed up and roughly dragged about - and I mean roughly - the whole back of his collar twisted and crumpled into the bosses fist!).
It sounds funny what that guy did to your tie - what, did he reef it backwards or downwards, and how long was he tugging it for? Have you seen this sort of thing happen or done to you often (I have lots I could tell about - 'collar feeling' incidents seem to follow me about!)?
Other peoples stories welcome!
12/12/07 topbuttonundone
The collar only gets badly ruffled when he twists and tugs it about for a long time, but hes not often that rough (although he was with this guy yesterday :) - nearly as bad as that next manager, it was hilarious to see him get reefed up and roughly dragged about - and I mean roughly - the whole back of his collar twisted and crumpled into the bosses fist!).
It sounds funny what that guy did to your tie - what, did he reef it backwards or downwards, and how long was he tugging it for? Have you seen this sort of thing happen or done to you often (I have lots I could tell about - 'collar feeling' incidents seem to follow me about!)?
Other peoples stories welcome!
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Hey loose tie.... thanks for the welcome back... you've no idea how much I missed you guys! You look fabulous in your white shirt... I love white shirts.
My tie has gradually become looser (all by itself today) I love that... do you adjust your tie during the day.... any of you guys?
12/12/07 How loose
My tie has gradually become looser (all by itself today) I love that... do you adjust your tie during the day.... any of you guys?
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Windsor: work doesn't allow us to remove our socks. I think topbuttonundone is the same? I wish I could, but then this cold weather would mean ankles got cold!!
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Hey topbuttonundone.... do you mind having your collar felt? I don't think I would... other than the embarrassment. At least it gets looser for a while. :) Does the collar get creased? That is something I don't think I would like, as I like my shirts to look nice!
You pulling this guys collar apart sound fun. I wouldn't mind getting my hands on his collar... :) The guy who gripped mine somehow got the tie from under the collar (it must have just been poking underneath.) He almost strangled me, but it was fun at the same time, if you know what I mean.
Wearing same colour shirts and ties sounds cool.. I usually go for contrast. what exactly do you mean about the megaloose tie looking more subtle? Interested to hear. Well interested in this chat... full stop!!
12/12/07 How loose
You pulling this guys collar apart sound fun. I wouldn't mind getting my hands on his collar... :) The guy who gripped mine somehow got the tie from under the collar (it must have just been poking underneath.) He almost strangled me, but it was fun at the same time, if you know what I mean.
Wearing same colour shirts and ties sounds cool.. I usually go for contrast. what exactly do you mean about the megaloose tie looking more subtle? Interested to hear. Well interested in this chat... full stop!!
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PJ: you are letting the side down.... no shirt and tie! :( Seriously mate, you look cool in your casual gear.
Wow....you look superb in your restaurant gear. Black shirt, white tie and two buttons undone. Wide open collar.... I like that look. Just wish I could adopt it here... much stricter there. Although I have my top two buttons undone, the second button undone is always hidden by the tie. So it seems as if I only have one undone. :) Do you guys think that it is more comfortable to have the second one undone, or does it make not much difference if your top one is undone and your tie is pretty loose anyway?
12/12/07 How loose
Wow....you look superb in your restaurant gear. Black shirt, white tie and two buttons undone. Wide open collar.... I like that look. Just wish I could adopt it here... much stricter there. Although I have my top two buttons undone, the second button undone is always hidden by the tie. So it seems as if I only have one undone. :) Do you guys think that it is more comfortable to have the second one undone, or does it make not much difference if your top one is undone and your tie is pretty loose anyway?
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Hey guys today I have on my black suit, white shirt, navy tie with sockless black oxfords. my tie is in a large knot pulled down to just above the second button with the top 2 buttons undone. I wasn't aware I was following the catwalks when going sockless, hey topbuttonundone & how loose join us dispose of your socks, if anyone says anything just say the Georgio Armani said to do it, it is good to have you back how loose
12/12/07 loose tie
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yes How Loose is the latest thing remove those socks, hey topbuttonundone have you got socks on? if so remove them join the fashion crusade.
12/12/07 PJ
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hey how loos I suppose I am showing a bit off neck but hey no one has said anything apart from one of my colleagues who said put that hairy chest away, in jest as my chest has not got a hair on it thanks to my razor. why daren't you remove your socks?
12/12/07 Windsor
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Hey all! Windsor, glad to hear you're able to hang loose again this week! Any comments from your workmates? I like the same colour shirts - white, then light blue, then pink, usually wear the same colour tie with the blue and pink shirts as it makes the mega loose tie a bit more subtle! You asked about my collar being pulled - yeah, the boss usually tugs hard on the back of the collar, first pulling me backwards and then twisting it roughly and pushing me forward (literally frog-marching me into his office like a mad bouncer), it takes me ages to fix the collar afterwards (and most times its impossible to get the collar straightened again. Has your boss or any of your work colleagues ever ruffled your collar?
How loose, yes, I have got my own back on the guy who keeps messing with me tie - roughly pulling his loose (sometimes actually gripping the collar - pulling each side roughly apart), he usually tries to straighten it up again after but it's always looser than before! How about you with this guy who pulled the back of your tie (how did that feel by the way - how exactly did he grip it and how rough was he?)?
12/12/07 topbuttonundone
How loose, yes, I have got my own back on the guy who keeps messing with me tie - roughly pulling his loose (sometimes actually gripping the collar - pulling each side roughly apart), he usually tries to straighten it up again after but it's always looser than before! How about you with this guy who pulled the back of your tie (how did that feel by the way - how exactly did he grip it and how rough was he?)?
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Your tie is down to what level? Hope you're all doing well, guys!