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Experienced school teachers are not appreciated

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Why does everyone hate teachers?

Ten years ago, as a primary school teacher, I really enjoyed my job.  I used to relish each new year and each new class I inherited.  There would be the usual behaviour problems and the awkward parent you get with every class, but generallly I can honestly say I loved it.  I always worked hard and made sure all my lessons were differentiated to suit the childen in my class, had all my lessons planned and prepared for.  I used to be in school for 8.00 a.m., had a cup of tea at break, half an hour for my lunch where I could eat a meal, and have another cup of tea at afternoon break and leave by 5.00.  At these times I would also be able to go to the toilet if I needed it.  In the evenings, I would happliy mark my books for the next day and plan my lessons which would take a couple of hours each night.

Today, I find myself in school for 7.45 instead of 8.00.  I don't have time to go to the toilet in the morning or have a break, I throw my dinner down me in 15 minutes whilst I am on the computer working at lunch, I never get a drink in the afternoon apart from the water on my desk.

School books

I work solidly until 11.00 at night...

I never leave school before 5.30 p.m., I try and find some time and energy to look after my young family in the short time I have between 5.30 and 8.00 p.m.  and then when they are settled in bed, I try to keep up with the enormous workload forced upon me to stay in my job, and work solidly until 11.00 at night.  And that's not including the weekends where I can spend up to 3 hours a day on my schoolwork.  All in all..I am working 60 hours a week - the same as doctors and it's still not enough!

I am faced with the threat of OFSTED at every corner and have the pressure on me that I must not be anything less than outstanding.

Parents have no idea of the pressure that teachers are under.

The government hate teachers because they don't like paying them, but the education system they have put in place, force teachers to follow a curriculum that doesn't work!  They don't support experienced teachers, they just find a way to get rid of them and employ newly qualified ones cheaply.

Experienced teachers are simply not appreciated.


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Phil

Phil

My experience of teachers is not a happy one. A significant proportion of those that taught me in the 1960's and 70's were violent, vindictive bullies who seemed devoted only to destroying the innate spirit and joyfulness of the children that they taught. They got way with it. There seemed to be no professional supervision. No way of getting rid of bad teachers. No way of preventing these individuals from ruining the lives of hundreds of young lives.

Are things better nowadays? I suspect not, because human nature never changes and the school system is as rotten as it ever was. Not all teachers are bad, but the good ones move into the private education sector or get jobs away from the classroom.

I also noticed during my time at school those teachers that seem to have given up. Sad, pathetic, hopeless neurotic no-hopers. I feel no sympathy for them.
Phil
3rd Mar 18 21:28

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LOVE TEACHERS

Actually 'stop whinging', a lot of my work is done 'free of charge'. I spend nearly all of my waking time working, including during these 'holidays' you all seem to think we enjoy. As a result, my family suffer because there isn't any work life balance anymore. I can't expect you to understand because you are probably not a teacher. I don't think there is much more I can say on the subject which is why this will be my final post.

However, I would just like to say that unfortunately, I am trapped in this nightmare of a job and would leave tomorrow if I could. This job is perfect for people who are young, driven by their career, haven't got young families or who are lucky to be able to afford to work part-time. If you are anyone like me, who is forced to work full time, a bit older in the tooth and has a young family....then it really is a living hell and getting worse and worse by the minute. Good old Michael Gove!! Lovely man!

Teachers, like anyone else in today's climate, should and do work extremely hard to keep their heads above water. But they deserve a life too and not the constant flow of criticism, bad press and pressure that comes their way. That was my whole point all along.

Thanks everyone, for the debate. Goodnight, goodbye and good luck.
LOVE TEACHERS
2nd Dec 12 21:50

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rc

rc

I see it that teachers do all right but there should be more of them ,but all should be part time,and all big wage earner positions like headmaster headteacher or course manager,should be put a stop to , they are payed to much and should have to share jobs splitting the wages with 2 or 3,othrs.
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1st Nov 12 02:27

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Stop whinging

Stop whinging

@Love Teachers

"it really is very tedious!"

You're absolutely right, it really is tedious hearing teachers banging on all the time that they are either hard done to or not appreciated. You are appreciated - you get a salary each month don't you? Or are you do it as a charity free of charge?
Stop whinging
29th Oct 12 12:56

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Old soldier.

Old soldier.

After reading some, and I reiterate some, of the posts on this site, it has struck me how divided the UK is. Nothing like a good old recession to show peoples true nasty sides when the money dries up and times get difficult. Oh, and by the way, this is supposed to be a gripe site, not a hate site. Some of you should be ashamed of yourselves.
Old soldier.
27th Oct 12 10:37

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Oh give us a break, do stop going on about being in the precious private sector! Do you think you deserve a medal or something? This debate isn't about private v public, it's about the fact that teachers aren't appreciated (even in the private sector) and are even hated despite everything they face today. Wake up and smell the coffee and read the article properly before jumping in with the private v public sector crap...it really is very tedious!
LOVE TEACHERS
26th Oct 12 22:36

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Give us a break

Give us a break

@Teacher supporter

Glad to hear that teachers have the same working conditions as most people in the private sector
Give us a break
25th Oct 12 12:28

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Teacher supporter

Teacher supporter

As a child whose parent WAS a teacher, I can honeslty say I do feel for teachers these days. Even these so called extended holidays people are so jealous about, arent all they are made out to be. I can say that out of the 6 week summer holiday, we had one week away, in Cornwall, the rest of my time off school was spent at my mothers classroom helping prepare for the following year. When I was doing my homework (term time and non term time) my mother was marking school books preparing lessons etc etc. On top of that, she had the kids that didnt give a rats ass about education, disrupted lessons and prevented other kids from learing. Then you have the parents of some of these children, who think discipline, manners and respect should start and end in school. NO, it is a parental responsibilty to teach children manners and respect. With the school supporting this.
I left my secondary school at 5pm( saved bus fare) and when I returned home, I rarely saw my mother till 7pm when she finally finished with out of school clubs and meetings. This was a regular occurence. Oh, and then we have the health complications of a bullying work atmosphere, when she was given the delinquent classes and have to put up with verbal and occasioanly physical abuse, offered no support from the school. Yes, I know not all schools are like this. But do not tell me my mother chose an easy career until you have worked in the same atmosphere she did.
Teacher supporter
22nd Oct 12 07:52

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@joke
I am not a regular. I just happen to be taken with this particular subject which is close to my heart. You should have your say like anyone else so don't be frightened to say what you think...that's what the site is about (as long as it's not too abusive or personal) and it's important for others to consider different views. As long as you can keep it in perspective and have something worthy to contribute, it can be quite an eye-opener and interesting to hear others' views even if you don't agree with them. Maybe try again in a differernt way.....? Don't give up!
LOVE TEACHERS
4th Oct 12 22:01

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joke!

joke!

yes i noticed most of my posts are removed so i know not to bother with this site anymore because obviously its only the regulars who get a say. tata
joke!
4th Oct 12 21:28

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LOVE TEACHERS

@idiot (as you aptly named yourself)
Yes, I did read your post which has obviously since been removed for whatever reason. On the contrary, the word 'worry' doesn't come into it. I actually find it amusing and genuinely interesting to read some of the sensible or stupid things I find people say on this site. Also, I don't need to 'get a life'. My life is mostly good. I just enjoy a good debate. By the way....all the teachers I know are dedicated and work extremely hard but sometimes are bound by things out of their control @ 'Avin a Laugh' - let me know where you neighbour works I can't believe what you say!
LOVE TEACHERS
4th Oct 12 20:55

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HATE TEACHERS

@ miserablemoaninggit, unbelievably my story is true! last week i was late picking my son up, i was called into the head teacher the next day and i held my hands up straight away- took full responsibility, yet straight away she jumped down my throat with a load of bull about 'my staff have told me this isn't the first time etc' LIES!
I have complained to offsted, to the chair of governors and today to the social workers.
I came home from work today to a letter on my doormat, basically saying they wont be getting involved as it isn't a case of safeguarding etc.
I am aware you think i am exaggerating, but unfortunatly i am not and frankly i am angry so yes i will rant my frustrations because it seems the easy target are scapegoated and the real child abusers get away with the lot!
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3rd Oct 12 18:05

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@hate teachers
Do you really expect people to take you seriously with posts like that? By the way, it's 'you're' rather than 'your' in line 9.
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3rd Oct 12 07:06

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miserablemoaninggit

miserablemoaninggit

It seems to me like the previous posting is one of 's/he who protests too much', thereby suggesting that there is much more to this than 'I was late picking my son up ONCE!'

Raising a child is a huge responsibility and should be taken very seriously. I'm sure that the teachers had some genuine reason for concern, and certainly they have erred on the side of caution.

Think of the criticism they would receive if they had failed to contact social services, possibly result in real neglect taking place and a young boy's life put in jeopardy. I'm not saying that this is the case with the son of the previous griper, but it seems to me that teachers decided to act for a reason, and they decided to act responsibly.
miserablemoaninggit
2nd Oct 12 22:46

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HATE TEACHERS!

i'd just like to start by saying i didnt even read this gripe, i saw the headnig and thought 'here we go'!
I have one of you 'experienced teachers' to thank for social services being on my case! and why? because i was late picking my son up ONCE!
so a bunch of 'experienced teachers' got together and came up with a cock and bull story, with a few extra lies in it and gave it straight to social services and now im being investigated for neglect!
I have done nothing but support my son, emotionally, financially, i've provided a loving home for him and because i am an easy target this is what you do.
no, dont bother going for the real bad parents who beat their kids, swear at them, call them names, just go for soft touches like myself and ruin my life because your too much of a bully to go for the real idiots knowing they will give back as good as they get!
i HATE teachers and find them to be disgusting, revolting bullies with nothing better to do but make victims lives hell because they have no backbone to face real child abusers!
HATE TEACHERS!
2nd Oct 12 21:13

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