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In this country our bars and clubs rip us off left right and centre with the cost of drinks or admission fees. To add insult to injury many of these places are now starting to insist on a dress code before you can even get through the door. If you're going out clubbing you need to think carefully about what you wear or find yourself refused entrance.
In the town where I live we have two weekend late-night drinking establishments. The one most people prefer to frequent is a modern, bright, fairly expensive wine bar with a resident DJ. On a Saturday night people looking for somewhere to continue enjoying their night out start queuing at 10.30 in order to ensure that they gain entrance.
This establishment however, has a rather strict dress code, jeans and trainers not being considered suitable attire. Several times I have queued up with friends only to have the slightly stroppy bouncer deny entry to some of them for the sin of wearing, shock horror, JEANS and TRAINERS!
No reprieve for white jeans, chinos - denim is denim, whatever the colour
And there is no reprieve for white jeans, chinos or whatever you like to call them (denim is denim whatever the colour or label) or any trainers that resemble "normal shoes" but are in fact not as they are made of fabric not shiny leather or leather effect plastic.
So what makes this form of dress offensive? I take it that it isnt because the wearer is deemed to poor to drink in the establishment as he can only afford jeans and trainers to wear because everyone knows that a decent pair of jeans and trainers costs quite a lot of money. Maybe the management assume that the wearing of these items turns the normally mild mannered person into a beer swilling trouble maker who has nothing better to do than start a fight and wreck the establishment. Most of my friends spend all week working in offices dressed in "proper" trousers and shoes and prefer to spend their weekends in less formal clothes, maybe it is time that bars and nightclubs stopped being so snobby about dress code.
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Anyone agree?

Well dan, the trouble is with the schools local to the area where I worked, they all have polo shirts as school uniform - not shirts; except the one I went to, so I think thats where most of the lads came from before getting the jobs with this company. I agree with the clip on, we did give them the actual ties in the end also but this was just while they couldn't get the hang of tying a tie properly - after taking my tie off and showing them a couple of times, I just told them to look it up on Youtube haha! Didn't realise how hard it is to explain...

Regards...Brad (tightcollarman)


dan: Doesn't sound too bad, are you having to pay for this or is the company paying? It'll be quite funny when you all get in to work with your wardrobe makeovers lol! What kind of company is it that you work for?
I used to work before uni for a menswear retailer and we would often get orders from companies for items for corporatewear, one company brought its staff in for suit measurements and the amount of staff who didn't know their collar size was surprising, then it really shocked me how many didn't know how to tie a tie - I tried teaching a few of them with my tie, but it wasn't going well; so we got a few of the ties specially customised to act as clip-on - although that wasn't a popular option with some of the younger staff (ones who didn't know how to tie a tie) because they commented that they weren't planning on buttoning the top button.



I'm in my final few months of Uni and learning the hard way the importance of looking sharp and doing your top button. I wore a shirt and tie to school for years and never really needed to wear my shirt fully buttoned up until my final year when the school changed the school uniform to make it compulsory to button your top button, there were regular checks and so it made it a bit annoying, because I found it a bit restricting - distracting almost.
Now I'm at Uni, I really dislike the look of fastening the top button - especially when you discover through the day that your tie has loosened a bit without realising and your top button is on show to others... annoying.

Perhaps others can advise on the double button collar shirts with collar bar?

Don't buy the double button collar shirts if you can help it. Not sure you can wear a collar bar with them!?

I had the cleaner heavily starch my shirts for the first time. I'll be wearing one tomorrow for the first time. The extra crisp look is being encouraged. She really is enjoying this. Guess I shouldn't be too surprised. Last year she tried to implement a "business casual, but with tie for men" dress code in our branch. Didn't fly, but this new business formal dress code is from up top so we're all stuck with it now. Hope the starched collar makes her happy and she leaves my tie alone tomorrow!

I think I may stick with the one button at the moment.

How loose