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In this country our bars and clubs rip us off left right and centre with the cost of drinks or admission fees. To add insult to injury many of these places are now starting to insist on a dress code before you can even get through the door. If you're going out clubbing you need to think carefully about what you wear or find yourself refused entrance.
In the town where I live we have two weekend late-night drinking establishments. The one most people prefer to frequent is a modern, bright, fairly expensive wine bar with a resident DJ. On a Saturday night people looking for somewhere to continue enjoying their night out start queuing at 10.30 in order to ensure that they gain entrance.
This establishment however, has a rather strict dress code, jeans and trainers not being considered suitable attire. Several times I have queued up with friends only to have the slightly stroppy bouncer deny entry to some of them for the sin of wearing, shock horror, JEANS and TRAINERS!
No reprieve for white jeans, chinos - denim is denim, whatever the colour
And there is no reprieve for white jeans, chinos or whatever you like to call them (denim is denim whatever the colour or label) or any trainers that resemble "normal shoes" but are in fact not as they are made of fabric not shiny leather or leather effect plastic.
So what makes this form of dress offensive? I take it that it isnt because the wearer is deemed to poor to drink in the establishment as he can only afford jeans and trainers to wear because everyone knows that a decent pair of jeans and trainers costs quite a lot of money. Maybe the management assume that the wearing of these items turns the normally mild mannered person into a beer swilling trouble maker who has nothing better to do than start a fight and wreck the establishment. Most of my friends spend all week working in offices dressed in "proper" trousers and shoes and prefer to spend their weekends in less formal clothes, maybe it is time that bars and nightclubs stopped being so snobby about dress code.
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I always have my top button undone too, but have to have it well hidden (like a fat windsor knot hiding the undone top button) in the office. Although it's still comfortable having the collar looser, it would be better to show that the top button is undone, rather than having to hide it. I guess it looks smarter like that....
Have they ruined your work shirts? You'd better not wear your best shirts anymore. Why do you think it is that guys who have their top buttons undone and ties loose are labelled as 'trouble'?
My tie is loose on the way to the office and can't wait to yank it down after work too.... (and at lunch time). I've forgotten to pull it up a few times and get a collaring by the manager.
BTW, these bouncer guys seem to have it down to a fine art as no matter how loose my collar is, they virtually strangle me by twisting and scrunching my collar up at the back, last time I got the back of my collar roughly torn at the back. F**king w**kers have ruined a number of my smart shirts by collaring me like that!
As a department manager I would say that your boss is probably right and as this is your first job, you have no experience and are (sorry) of no value, yet. Just do as you're told. In fairness, to you though, he sounds a bit pedantic and I wouldn't force my staff (even juniors) to wear jackets in the office. Shirt collars and ties are a thorny subject - hence this forum. The suggestion made by "how loose" is a good compromise and I would have thought it would keep your boss happy.
You can always loosen your tie after work or if you go out on breaks, can't you?
Keep smart for now, work hard, pay attention, do as you're told (sic), and one day you'll be able to dictate office dress policy.
Hope admin don't send me a bill for royalties.
2-1 and two points clear!
How loose
On Friday, how were you dressed? Tie loose or pushed up. I can't believe that you've had this stress. I would definitely go 'top button undone' and button pushed up. It is far more comfortable and looks far better.
What are you wearing today?