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Horse manure on public footpaths a nuisance

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I was reading the gripe about horse manure on the road and I thought it would be an excellent opportunity to bring up something that has been irritating me for the last couple of weeks.  Yes, I'm afraid it's another horse manure story and this time it's not on the road.

I travel to and from a nearby village which is about a three mile round trip and I do this around two to three times a week taking my stepdaughter to school.  It's not that far and as I don't have car I tend to either cycle or walk.  It's a pretty busy road so I wasn't surprised when I saw a horse and rider on the other side of the road, not actually on the road but riding along the footpath.  Probably a very sensible thing to do because there are a few sharp bends and the traffic tends to be steady and fast.

Anyway, a few days later I'm cycling along this path (again, the sensible thing for a cyclist to do as the road is manic) and I turned a corner to run into a whole load of horse manure.  There was piles of the stuff, some quite large and it was generally spread up the hill for about a hundred yards.  I'm sure it didn't all come from one animal because there was a lot o it.  My pop would have had a field day (literally) because he used to keep a bin full of manure in the garden for the veggie patch. 

Horse manure on the footpath Now I know this stuff washes away (eventually) and it's not the most harmful substance in the world, but it doesn't half make a mess of things and it doesn't smell too great either.  Well why didn't you avoid it?  I hear you say  Well I would if I could, but it was more than one small pile and it wasn't easy to dodge.  As it happens we had to travel on foot for a few days recently (bike had a puncture) and it was quite challenging to keep the little one from stepping in piles of horse manure.  It was starting to get dark around then too which didn't help matters, plus a couple of rain showers and a hoard of school kids walking that way had spread it around even more.

Not suggesting banning horses, fining the riders or forcing them onto the road (definitely not around there anyway!).  But I think in this instance making the effort to pick up your horse manure would be a nice thing to do for the rest of us pedestrians and cyclists who also use the path.  It's one thing on the road, but on the pavement it's quite inconvenient.

Perhaps stopping by on the way back from the stables with a shovel and a few bin liners perhaps?

By: Alexander


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Allan

Allan

No its not alright on the road Motorcyclists often come a cropper after hitting Manure left by horses.
12/05/09 Allan
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Christopher Fotheringhay-Wolve

Christopher Fotheringhay-Wolve

Hey, yeh!!! Horse dung is great! I reckon it should be compulsory to drop it on roads so we can scurry about collecting it for our gardens. What a wheeze if we could sell it on ebay too!! I can't wait. I'm writing to my MP to suggest legislation to stop you riders wasting horse dung in fields. It isn't right. We demand poo on roads where it belongs!
29/04/09 Christopher Fotheringhay-Wolve
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Nikki

Nikki

Lisa, you have said nothing which myself and many others have repeatedly said over and over again ! All your points are valid, but unfortunately there are just some sad people in this world who will never be able to understand that horse poo is totally harmless, and just about the best manure that there is !
07/04/09 Nikki
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Lisa

Lisa

hi - I read your gripe about horse manure on the roads/ pavements.... I as a horse owner/ride agree that horses shouldn't be on the pavements for the sake of pedestrians and potential horse droppings, which I personally never do. However it is very impractical to pick up our manure whilst our riding as we would have to carry shovel and bags which would be unpractical and dangerous as to carry it when most of us have to use both hands to ride - well if your horse is anything like mine you do. I would like to advise unlike dog poo horse manure is bio-degradable and hence it is used for manure as horses are herbivores and therefore only eat grass/hay/cereal type horse feeds again unlike dogs who eat anything that is edible.... horse manure doesn't stick to your shoes like dog droppings and certainly doesn't smell like it - so even if stood on quite easily removed.... many people even buy bags of horse manure for their gardens - so please do not compare it to dog droppings and suggest you even pick it up for your garden - haha (unless on a pavement which I personally feel is unacceptable)
06/04/09 Lisa
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Nikki

Nikki

I agree. I personally believe it to be totally unnecessary, the stuff is harmless, quickly disperses and washes away in the rain, but in today's obsession with bleaching this, and sterilising that, and germs are bad for you, it is probably the most sensible way forward where possible !
17/02/09 Nikki
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horse poo fan

horse poo fan

Yes, I have used footpaths for safety's sake too Nikki (I ride - and gripe!) it honestly was just an observation and a question, I couldn't clearly remember if it was the law or a guideline laid down by the BHS when I did my Road Safety Test about 100 years ago! I have always avoided riding on them where possible, to avoid more abuse from others about where they deem it appropriate to ride my horse, although as I said I do use them where I need to, to prevent me losing a stirrup or worse. I do agree actually though, reflecting on it, that in safe circumstances, the responsible thing to do would be to pick up after the horse after the ride where practical.
17/02/09 horse poo fan
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Nikki

Nikki

Or how's about putting it on your roses? A slightly more hygenic thing to do with it I think !!!

Next time I am out riding and my horse leaves his calling cards, if at all possible I will go back afterwards and pick it up, just to show how nice I really am !!
17/02/09 Nikki
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Nikki

Nikki

Absolutely it is Horse Poo Fan. But what would you do if you had some idiot on a motorbike coming blasting down the road towards you at 100 mph, and there was a nice convenient pavement to hop onto to save your life and that of your horse's? Don't you think you might get your horse onto that pavement quick snap !! I have done this many times, and I am not ashamed to do so. My horse was everything to me, I loved her like my child, and I would do anything for her. I am no doubt going to be shot down in flames for saying this, but I don't care, it is the truth. No rider would risk her horse's safety just because it is illegal to ride on the pavement.

As for poo picking as you go along, thank you for your commonsense understanding that this is illegal, dangerous and impossible. Indeed, we can and maybe should go back afterwards to clear up after Dobbin, but it is another good point that you raise about the safety of parking on the side of the road to clear up. I guess it is all a question of give and take. Parking down the road somewhere where it is safe, and walking back with broom and shovel to clear up.

It's a real pleasure talking to you, thank you for your courtesy.
17/02/09 Nikki
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not a horse poo fan

not a horse poo fan

horse poo fan, ok fair enough its dangerous to stop and clean it up the moment after "deposit" but, afterwards, why dont you go for a long happy walk *without* your horse, scooping it all up and then take it home in a bucket and hey, why not, eat it for dinner.
17/02/09 not a horse poo fan
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horse poo fan

horse poo fan

Just to pick up on a point really, Nikki you might know better than me but isn't it illegal to ride a horse on the footpath anyway? I stand by my points that it would just be plain dangerous to try and clean up after your horse whilst also trying to control it, and illegal as already stated. Yes it's not that pleasant, and I can't see a reason why it would be on a footpath to be honest, but if you consider that a rider stopping thier car on the roadside would cause a possible hazard, while picking it up. It's just an observation before the horse rider bashers jump on it!
17/02/09 horse poo fan
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Nikki

Nikki

When I used to go out for a hack, I usually covered around 5 - 10 miles, depending on the time I have. It would be very difficult for me to remember exactly where my horse had dumped !

However, I do agree with you hygiene fan, that where possible and safe to do so, riders could go back and clear up after their horses.

You do not need disinfectant. Horse poo is completely safe, it is just sufficient to clear it away.

Dog poo is entirely different. As a carniverous species, their poo carries very dangerous pathogens, parasites and bacteria, some of which are zoonotic - such as Giardia. There is a very good reason why there is such a fuss over dog and cat poo and not horse.
17/02/09 Nikki
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Hygiene fan

Hygiene fan

Dog owners would be chastised for leaving their animal's feaces on the pavement (rightly so), yet horse riders (whose animals produce considerably more poo) are allowed to get away with it scott free, dumpign their load wherever they like.

I suggest to 'Nikki', since she's not allowed to dismount to clean up, that she's reached her dear horsey's paddock or whatever, she walks back down the path with a shovel and a bucket of disinfectant, and cleans up her animal's waste from the public walkway. Or if this is too much trouble, how about not taking the horse out in the first place, and do us all a favour.
17/02/09 Hygiene fan
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Nikki

Nikki

It is illegal to dismount from your horse on or beside a road, except in a dire emergency.

Then of course, having picked up your poo, you have to remount ! Presumably carrying shovel and bag with you !!
17/02/09 Nikki
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horse poo fan

horse poo fan

Blimey, another horse poo gripe! Frisky mare, I have no idea how riders would manage such a feat, as you say impractical and dangerous which is why, I presume, it has not been made law to pick up after your horse. And then there's the 'inconvenience' to other road users as you get off the horse, try and keep it still at the side of the road with one hand and then try to shovel the poo into a bag with the other. I wonder how someone who was walking or driving along, seeing this scene would feel if the horse was moving about on the road/roadside while the rider is trying to scrape up a bit of poo, putting themselves and other road users in danger. To hold the horse with one hand whilst doing all that would be irresponsible and dangerous. Like you say - walk round it!
14/02/09 horse poo fan
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frisky mare

frisky mare

Can I ask a perfectly resonable question without having my head bitten off ? Im just wondering as a horse owner/rider how the heck im supposed to clean up after my horse ???!!! Am I supposed to carry around a shovel ? Because that strikes me as a rather impractical and dangerous solution. The vast majority of riders wouldnt dream of riding on a pavement unless absolutely neccessary and seriously if you really are that bothered about the horse droppings just walk round it or is that to simple ?
14/02/09 frisky mare
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