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Covid 19 and the UK Nanny State

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Well, I had hoped that Boris was going to dial the nanny state down a bit, but since China unleashed Covid 19 onto the world it has gone into overdrive.

I was a teenager in the late 60s when the Asian flu was around.  It was a much worse illness than Covid 19, but back then we were trusted to mostly look after ourselves and took the risks of life in our stride.  I don't remember hearing much about the Asian flu, it was on the news I suppose, but I never heard personally of anyone dying from it.  If anyone had suggested a lockdown they would have been laughed at.  Apart from ruining the economy people would have seen it as a gross infringement of their civil liberties and would never have stood for it.

Nowadays we have become so risk averse that we have put up with all the restrictions.  I do wonder sometimes how the human race would ever have got started if people had always been like this.  The first humans would have been too scared to leave their nice comfy caves to go out and hunt for something to eat, so would have starved to death.

We were told for ages that masks were not really any good except to help frontline medical staff, but now we must wear them when we go to the shops.  I suspect that the novelty of actually being allowed to go shopping again will soon wear off when shoppers realise how uncomfortable it is in a mask, particularly if you wear glasses which keep steaming up.  Then there are the queues to get into some shops, that's not going to be popular in the winter; and the stupid one way systems in some shops.  I went into my local Superdrug last week.  There used to be breaks in the fixtures running the length of the shop so it was possible to go from one aisle to another halfway down.  These have been blocked off so now it's actually more difficult to avoid other customers.  All of this of course won't help the economic recovery one bit if it puts people off going shopping.

Covid 19 - Socical distancing in the UK Another thing that won't help the recovery is the to-ing a fro-ing about where we can go on holiday.  Retired people may be able to cope with two weeks quarantine if it should be deemed necessary when they get home, but it would be very awkward for many working people.  Even the mighty British Airways is on it's knees, and this really isn't helping.  We need to get back to normal, the old normal that is.

Then there are the numbers of people killed by this not really very serious illness.  Apparently about 78% of people who've tested positive have had no symptoms at all, the other 22% include those who've only had mild symptoms.  The numbers put out of "Covid related deaths" have up to now included patients who recovered but died of something else later, which has finally been admitted.  Numbers of people dying over the last few weeks have actually fallen because large numbers of people killed by Covid 19 would have died a few weeks or months later anyway.

These figures of course encouraged people to stay at home during the lockdown, now too many are scared of going back to work because they think this deadly virus is waiting for them.  Too many who have swallowed the hype about the virus have also turned hyper-vigilant, screeching about people daring to go to the beach, when in reality it's probably perfectly safe.  The virus doesn't transmit easily in the open and the only beachgoers likely to get close to each other are children who don't pass it on readily.  This is something the teachers' unions really need to get their heads around too!  The education of a whole generation has been damaged far too much.

The lockdown will undoubtedly cause more deaths than it has prevented, it was done to "protect the NHS", yet in may areas the NHS was sat around twiddling its collective thumbs as the hospitals and surgeries were more or less closed to anyone who didn't have Corona virus.  The Nightingale hospitals were barely used.  Still, nobody could sue the NHS for catching Corona virus when attending an appointment!  Many patients with serious illnesses who have missed vital appointments will die, as will many who were too scared to go to their doctor or were not allowed to make an appointment.

There will also be many deaths due to the economic crash, businesses will go bankrupt, jobs will be lost, people will lose their incomes and their homes, and all taxpayers will be squeezed to make up the difference between money going to the government and outgoing in benefits and services.  Local councils will be in trouble too with falling income because of so many empty shops.

I'm really beginning to despair of this country and it's future!  The more we are protected from all the normal risks of life the worse it gets.

By: Grumpyoldwoman


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Fed Up

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-54068601

Grrrrrr......
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Jethro

Jethro

UK house prices soar to record high despite Covid crisis.

Propaganda and lies from the property markets that are reeling from the effects of Covid. They are trying desperately to prop up a flat market by giving the impression the economy is booming.
07/09 Jethro
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Jethro

Jethro

Civil servant union boss flatly REJECTS Boris's call to return to the office cause he likes doing F/All along with all the rest of the civil service.

Maybe not such a bad idea, perhaps the country will run a lot smoother without them.
05/09 Jethro
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Fed Up

Fed Up

"Police are investigating after more than 300 people attended a house party in Midlothian, Scotland."

300 people? 300 idiots more like.

"Officers were called to the party, which was run as a commercial event in a rented property, at 00:20 BST on Sunday.

They said organisers showed a "blatant disregard" for coronavirus rules which limit indoor gatherings to no more than eight people from three households.

A 29-year-old man issued with a fixed penalty and police are investigating culpable and reckless conduct charges against the organisers of the party."

29 year old? Figures...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-53989147
03/09 Fed Up
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Jethro

Jethro

Trial of 20-minute Covid-19 tests could help UK return to normal says Matt Hancock

Your surname really does discribe your ability to handle this epidemic. I watch you on TV news channels, it's evident you have brain washed your'e self into believing the crap coming out of your mouth. No doubt you are heading for greater things.
03/09 Jethro
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Jethro

Jethro

My name is COVID-19, so you all thought you had me beat. Well guess again Morons.

I'M BACK, PARTY TIME.
02/09 Jethro
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Jethro

Jethro

"I’ve been a teacher for over 20 years but I am scared of going back to school"

You wouldn't be if they stopped paying you to sit at home doing nothing. The same as public sector workers getting full pay on the public purse.
01/09 Jethro
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Jethro

Jethro

Treasury officials push for bombshell tax hikes to pay for virus

We all knew this was coming. We took the money cause it was free, but now it is going to be taken back, and back, and back. This payback will not only apply to the tax man, but every other service we need. Get ready for the raid on our wallets by those that lost in the shut down.
30/08 Jethro
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grumpyoldwoman

grumpyoldwoman

Pet, I think your comment had a few words missing off the end. I'm sure you meant for it to read "Just put your mask on when you go out and shut up like a good little sheep!"
27/08 grumpyoldwoman
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Pet

Pet

Just put your mask on when you go out and shut up!
26/08 Pet
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Jacob Right-Smug

Jacob Right-Smug

Influenza immunisation has been recommended in the UK since the late 1960s, with the aim of protecting clinically at-risk groups who are at a higher risk of influenza-associated morbidity and mortality. In 2000, the policy was extended to include all people aged 65 years and over, and in 2010 pregnancy was added as a clinical risk category. In 2013 to 2014, the childhood programme was first implemented to target children from the ages of two to nine years. This was extended in 2018 to 2019 to all those aged 10 years old. (Source Nuffield Trust)
20/08 Jacob Right-Smug
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grumpyoldwoman

grumpyoldwoman

Hi Nick, I just found out about OffG's origins so I retract my left wing remark! I may add the site to my bookmarks, so thanks.
18/08 grumpyoldwoman
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grumpyoldwoman

grumpyoldwoman

Interesting articles, although I don't have a remotely left wing bone on my body. I will read them in detail when I have time. I totally agree about herd immunity. The GOM and I have met many people who felt ill in January and February, before the virus is supposed to have reached here.

Why do you make assumptions about sources I rely on?
17/08 grumpyoldwoman
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Nick

Nick

I agree with many of your concerns about the impact of the virus. However, rather than just relying on the fairly restricted government and/or BBC/MSN narrative to explain what’s happening, there’s quite a lot of other/alternative online resources, that are credible/reliable, etc, which may help better explain and/or expose what may actually be happening here?

For example,

https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/24/12-experts-questioning-the-coronavirus-panic/

https://off-guardian.org/2020/04/17/8-more-experts-questioning-the-coronavirus-panic/

https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/28/10-more-experts-criticising-the-coronavirus-panic/

Obviously, there’re many more online medical/scientific resources that question and/or challenge the prevailing orthodoxy, as you have done.
17/08 Nick
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Nick

Nick

test...
16/08 Nick
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