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Poor use of English in the UK

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Whenever I look at this forum, and others, I am shocked at the way people mangle the English language.  I find that many non-native English speakers in UK, particularly the Polish, speak and write English to a far higher standard than native speakers.

The problem is that bad English perpetuates itself as children copy parents and students copy teachers, it is therefore incumbent on everybody to make the effort to use the language correctly.

We all make mistakes, and the odd typo can slip thruogh (oops!), and some people find it hard to spell accurately, which is also excusable.   Dyslexia, to a varying degree, affects about 10% of people but most dyslexics are highly intelligent and motivated.  Two of the most successful people I know are dyslexic and one, at the age of the 35, realised how this was hampering his career, and undertook a special training to improve his ability to write well.  Since then, he has done incredibly well.

A crossword puzzle What really infuriates me is poor grammar and deliberate mis-spelling, for example:

"We was on the train ..."
"Me and me mate went down the shop ..."
"So wot if ..."

i also get really annoyed when i see people writing like this and wiv no punctuation or capitals or brakes between sentences it is pathetic i suppose they fink its clevur or sumfink

Then there are those who think it's clever to write and talk like Jamaicans, in that awful Yardie slang, or to write as if they were texting on a cellphone.  I may well be accused of intellectual snobbery, and that doesn't worry me one iota because I am a snob and proud of it, but I have to say that people who don't take the trouble to speak or write properly demean themselves and debase any value that their opinions might otherwise have.

I have no doubt that I will come in for some considerable flack for this comment, but please don't bother unless you can express yourself coherently and accurately, and don't waste your time or mine with insults and abuse as I'm impervious to them.

By: MikeP


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grumpyoldwoman

grumpyoldwoman

Starting sentences with "so.." is the latest one to annoy me.
grumpyoldwoman
30th Nov 17 15:22

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Hawk-I

Hawk-I

We all know that modern languages evolve, and absorb new words and phrases from other languages, but I am worried about "what English Grammar is evolving into?"
Whenever I turn on the TV, there is more often than not, someone who has had an expensive, Public school, or University education, torturing the bounds of good Grammar, or good English language STYLE.

I only received a normal school education, no expensive private education for me, but I consider that I speak with better grammatical style than the majority of Politicians, newsreaders, or TV presenters, in public life today.
You may wonder what I am talking about, so let us take the latest fad for the use of "more";
For instance, "More quickly! ---- Whatever makes people think that that is better than -- QUICKER?
OR, " More Slowly" DOH! --- SLOWER, or ........ "Less quickly" ---- SLOWER
Then we have phrases such a "on the slide", "On the Up" instead of Decreasing, and Increasing.
There is also "police speak", and their favourite is " at this moment in time" instead of AT PRESENT. These are just a quick sample as I do not wish to bore readers
But the list just goes on and on as over educated, or self important Mallaca's (idiots) find new ways to massacre English Grammar every day.

If you have other examples of this idiocy, please let me know.
Hawk-I
20th Nov 17 00:07

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grumpyoldwoman

grumpyoldwoman

I think this old gripe is worth resurrecting as I continue to be appalled by the use of English these days.

Apologists for the current sloppiness say "the language is evolving"; but what is the point of it "evolving" to the point where we can no longer understand each other?

A good example recently was on a fairly well known website where somebody reported that the lead actor in a favourite tv programme of mine had resigned. "Oh, that's that then." I thought. I read on to find out why and was pleased to find out that he had actually re-signed to do another series. (The OP was taken to task by several avid fans who had nearly had heart attacks.) This could be a career ending mistake!

A few days ago I had a leaflet through my door from a holiday company inviting me to "dust of my sunglasses". If they're that sloppy I wouldn't book with them in case they sent me to the wrong place.

Another one I'm seeing is "defiantly" instead of "definitely"; as in "I'm defiantly coming". Well, if you are coming don't make a fuss when you get here!

Then there's "peaked" instead of "piqued". "Peaked interest" means interest has reached it's highest point; whereas if you "pique" interest you've just started it off.

A big offender these days is AOL/Huff Post. I've seen loads of mistakes on there recently; the only one that comes to mind is an article about a treatment for "caner". Unfortunately I'm not allowed to comment on there now as I refuse to open a Farcebook account.

Anyone agree?
grumpyoldwoman
5th May 15 11:36

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Kenny (Site Admin)

Kenny (Site Admin)

Cracking down on them. We do get hit by bots from time to time and what they think they can achieve I do not know!
Kenny (Site Admin)
13th Mar 12 18:36

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Oi

Oi

"A bit like some of the contributors to this site then?"

Not really, no.

BTW Mike's gripe is perfectly valid and I very much concur with all he has to say. Standard of education it seems these days is bloody atrocious.
Oi
13th Mar 12 18:22

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Anon

Anon

Yes agreed, most of them appear in the top gripers list including the author of this one.
Anon
13th Mar 12 16:08

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Stalag 14

Stalag 14

"Just designed to spew out random words and letters with the sole intention of annoying"

A bit like some of the contributors to this site then?
Stalag 14
13th Mar 12 15:58

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Oi

Oi

It's a spammer. Computer, not even human. Just designed to spew out random words and letters with the sole intention of annoying Ignore it.
Oi
13th Mar 12 15:00

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grumpyoldwoman

grumpyoldwoman

Does anyone have any idea what's going on with the comments posted under various names which are well written (if a bit loopy) but with one word mis-spelled in a spectacular fashion?

There are 4 so far; "I think the best way...." with "leaqifiud" for "qualified",
"The other day...." with "soochl" for school, "What a good thought...." with "dsetunts" for "students" and "I have to show my...." with "bnliiag" for "bailing".

As Eric Morecambe might have said "all the right letters but not necessarily in the right order!"

I'm thinking spam of some sort, but why is one word always so wrong? Any ideas?
grumpyoldwoman
13th Mar 12 07:55

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grumpyoldwoman

grumpyoldwoman

Just spotted the typo - oops!

The above is too short; so in my defence, I answered the phone just as I was about to click post, then came back and posted without checking.
grumpyoldwoman
9th Jan 12 08:17

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grumpyoldwoman

grumpyoldwoman

The comedian Tony Hawks was on the radio yesterday; one thing he talked about was constantly getting emails from people who had confused him with Tony Hawk, apparently a well known skateboarder.

Tony Hawk has made computer games and dvd's (Ithink) with "Tony Hawk's......." as the title. His fans ignore the apostrophe and end up with a rude reply from Tony Hawks, who is understandably getting fed up with it.

So; apostrophes do matter!
grumpyoldwoman
9th Jan 12 08:14

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AlanG

AlanG

I recently received this message in an e/mail:-

From a Teacher -- short and to the point:
In the world of hi-tech gadgetry, I've noticed that more and more people who send text messages and emails have long forgotten the art of capitalization. For those of you who fall into this category, please take note of the following statement...
"Capitalization is the difference between 'helping your Uncle Jack off a horse' and 'helping your uncle jack off a horse'."

Is everybody clear on that?
AlanG
30th Dec 11 23:37

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TAZ9

TAZ9

Punctuation saves lives.
Lets eat mum.
OR
Lets eat, mum
C MII POYNT?! <B)
TAZ9
6th Dec 11 20:29

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WESTON BABE

WESTON BABE

Being able to leave school should depend upon the student attaining a certain standard of numeracy and literacy (in English - the language of this country). Those that don't make the grade, should be made to stay at chool until they do.
If I was an employer, I wouldn't employ anyone who couldn't write their own CV, who wasn't well presented and who couldn't read or write or do basic calculations. It's no wonder that many firms are looking for older employees who were taught properly and who can communicate with others. When I was at school, presentation of my work and my personal appearance were of the utmost importance.
WESTON BABE
24th Aug 11 13:57

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AlanG

AlanG

OOPs!
I have just read my last post on here and noticed several mistakes, please acept my appologies, as typing is not my forte.
AlanG
17th Jul 11 22:26

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