Can you have your say on the BBC website?
Yeah right, if only! I would like to gripe about the media, and in particular the BBC. They are supposed to be unbiased but the moderators on the "Have your say" forums seem to reject the many valid and non-offensive comments I post - presumably because the truth really hurts!
My guess is that these are part and parcel of the problems with the media in general. The news that gets out is only what they want the public to hear, and they basically conceal everything else! I have made some constructive comments which were true and probably quite valid (in my opinion), but because they were a bit too much for the BBC dimwits to accept - they simply rejected them.
Have Your Say is full of this kind of thing. Someone can make a comment which has no substance to it and it gets published, but a more constructive one is rejected as if it is offensive. Why?? Some user-names reflect the rejection of their comments by the BBC on a regular basis, which basically means they are fed up of NOT having their say published.
If people in control are not prepared to accept fair comment and reflect a true view from society, then more people need to stand up and get this suppression exposed. Moderation is one thing, but censorship (cherry picking?) is quite another thing. Obviously the BBC wouldn't want to highlight it's own failings and maybe the media in general wouldn't be too happy, but with sites like The Weekly Gripe and others, perhaps with the Internet we can break this glass ceiling of truth exposure enforced upon us by the media.
Why do these cowards hiding behind cyberspace not face up to the truth and actually allow people to "have their say". I know how the Chinese feel now!
By: Have Your Say Critic
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Notice how the bbc story for royal succession has 314 HYS comments but no way of getting to them, I bet there are many posting on there pointing out that its just another way to stay on the gravey train for free.
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Bunch of lefties. I am sure they auto-censor my postings as early this morning (about 0400 GMT) I put something on and within seconds I got an email :
"Dear BBC blog contributor,
Thank you for contributing to a BBC blog. Unfortunately we've had to remove your comment below.
Comments on the BBC blogs may be removed if they are considered likely to provoke, attack or offend others, use swear words, or disrupt the message boards."
There was nothing inflammatory, racist, obscene, or abusive, simply disagreement with their views about the FIFA corruption scandal.
It said :
"Whilst they're investigating Blatter and his henchmen, they ought to cast their minds back to the financial r@pe of South Africa last year and be made to pay back what that little jaunt will cost the taxpayers. No doubt the ANC and the big businessmen did well out of it with the sweeteners, but for the 'man in the street' it was an unmitigated disaster. Most of the FIFA branded rubbish was made in China and local traders weren't allowed to sell anything within a certain distance of the stadia.
Still, that's the result of voting for 'democracy' in Africa."
(Unless it was the r@pe word!)
"Dear BBC blog contributor,
Thank you for contributing to a BBC blog. Unfortunately we've had to remove your comment below.
Comments on the BBC blogs may be removed if they are considered likely to provoke, attack or offend others, use swear words, or disrupt the message boards."
There was nothing inflammatory, racist, obscene, or abusive, simply disagreement with their views about the FIFA corruption scandal.
It said :
"Whilst they're investigating Blatter and his henchmen, they ought to cast their minds back to the financial r@pe of South Africa last year and be made to pay back what that little jaunt will cost the taxpayers. No doubt the ANC and the big businessmen did well out of it with the sweeteners, but for the 'man in the street' it was an unmitigated disaster. Most of the FIFA branded rubbish was made in China and local traders weren't allowed to sell anything within a certain distance of the stadia.
Still, that's the result of voting for 'democracy' in Africa."
(Unless it was the r@pe word!)
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THere's a neat example of this sort of thing at http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/comedy/2010/08/the-six-commandments-of-mongrels.shtml where the BBC moderators try to shut down one of the contributors in a discussion about how one of their programmes portrays urban foxes. It's interesting because the person (who claims to be a fox!) posts the correspondence they got from the moderators. It's also really gassy in places especially when a hunt saboteur turns up and finds a "fox" that isn't at all grateful. Sadly it seems to have turned out like One Flew Over the Cuckoo Nest with the BBC lobotomy SWAT team working overtime.
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The BBC is a government tool. Not for any specific party but good for promoting the middle way. None of the mayor parties would change this. Get rid of the licence fee and the BBC will fall and so will this blanket of exceptance. We do not have to put up with P C crap when we all know it is destroying the British way of life.
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happybunnyNOT - 3-Jan-11 22:15
HYS would rather offer lame, dumbed-down topics such as X-Factor and Facebook than real issues such as WikiLeaks.
Shame on you, BBC. Pathetic.
Shame on you, BBC. Pathetic.
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Harsh But Fair - 15-Dec-10 21:03
I have just remembered another incident that I experienced on HYS a few weeks ago. Unfortunately I no longer have the details, but I had complained about a number of comments made by other posters which I considered to be over the top or even libellous (I think one commenter had accused someone of criminal activity).
Rather surprisingly in my view, the HYS moderators refused to remove the comments in question. So I constructed my own post, using all of the extracts from the other posts that I had complained about. It was promptly censored.
The difference was that my post criticised the use of these comments.
Rather surprisingly in my view, the HYS moderators refused to remove the comments in question. So I constructed my own post, using all of the extracts from the other posts that I had complained about. It was promptly censored.
The difference was that my post criticised the use of these comments.
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Radial Symmetry - 16-Oct-10 14:04
I thought maybe it was just me being paranoid, but from a brief trawl of internet forums it seems censorship on the BBC's Have Your Say website is rife. Judging by the comments that do get through, I can only assume that anything that is remotely critical of the current Conservative regime will get blocked. That is certainly my experience.
In an extreme example, I notice today (16th October 2010) that comments on a topic about the defence cuts ("How much should the UK spend on defence?") were closed again almost immediately after the topic opened.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2010/10/how_much_should_the_uk_spend_o.html
Something stinks at the BBC, that's for sure.
In an extreme example, I notice today (16th October 2010) that comments on a topic about the defence cuts ("How much should the UK spend on defence?") were closed again almost immediately after the topic opened.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2010/10/how_much_should_the_uk_spend_o.html
Something stinks at the BBC, that's for sure.
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RadialSymmetry - 16-Oct-10 13:59
BBC is now too awful for words. Get rid of the BBC. It is just a front for a load of loony PC types. While your at can someone stop radio 4 being used as a vehicle for all kinds of anti male, anti white and anti worker propaganda.
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Dreadful BBC - 26-Jul-10 09:22
I have tried twice to put a point over on BBC Wales,it is to do with the Badger cull that is about to start in Pembroke,this being a hot topic at this time,after all our glorious (failed MPs) Assembly Members are pushing forward their cause"in the public interest"yet I know of many farmers that do not want this to happen on their land,but the BBC is obviously in the Assemblies pocket.
If you are interested the cattle are meant to be suffering from Bovine TB and as everyone knows Bovine refers to Cattle,and my question that they do not want to answer is "It is not just as likely that the Badgers catch it from the cattle as the other way round"?-We do not have to SLAUGHTER every Badger in the County,far better to slaughter the AMs !
If you are interested the cattle are meant to be suffering from Bovine TB and as everyone knows Bovine refers to Cattle,and my question that they do not want to answer is "It is not just as likely that the Badgers catch it from the cattle as the other way round"?-We do not have to SLAUGHTER every Badger in the County,far better to slaughter the AMs !
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Dave
How can you be so judgemental about someone wanting to make a comment whose view wasn't included?
At ieast he was constructive whereas you were looking for assumptions to undermine him.
I will give my view that you call everyone who tries to put things right something which might offend because you are like a coward on The Weakest Link trying to undermine strengths.
You seem to lack self-esteem like a cousin I have who cannot say anything good about anyone - and never gets his facts right.
When did you last update your brain?
How can you be so judgemental about someone wanting to make a comment whose view wasn't included?
At ieast he was constructive whereas you were looking for assumptions to undermine him.
I will give my view that you call everyone who tries to put things right something which might offend because you are like a coward on The Weakest Link trying to undermine strengths.
You seem to lack self-esteem like a cousin I have who cannot say anything good about anyone - and never gets his facts right.
When did you last update your brain?
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Whole Brooks - 25-May-10 19:59
It's possible you were just posting rubbish. Why not give some examples of your enlightened contribution so people can make their minds up. Otherwise you just sound like a self-important tit with nothing better to do.
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HYS?
HYS only seems to post commenst that are right wing and some commenst are beyond decency
Its just a site for the loony Right wing to vent steam amd spleen
I have posted numerous well reasoned and morally sound logical posts ..alll rejected ..yet they post the rants of bigots and idiots
HYS only seems to post commenst that are right wing and some commenst are beyond decency
Its just a site for the loony Right wing to vent steam amd spleen
I have posted numerous well reasoned and morally sound logical posts ..alll rejected ..yet they post the rants of bigots and idiots
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You can easily tell which topics are the most sensitive, because in this case, they simply do not allow comments. Have your say, when we say you can, but then only say what we want you to say, OK?
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I frequent a site called tpuc dot org and it really brings home the reality we all live in today.
The noose is slowly tightening and cutting off the blood supply, before long we will be in a constant state of fear and trepidation, yet this is only psychological, we need to make sure they don't get a firm foothold, in fact, it should be the reverse, they should fear the people!
It takes a strong mind and caring heart to win over this evil, stop paying the tv license for one! I don't pay mine and have had a few visits but they know they cannot do anything. I simply refuse to fund terrorism, that is what we are talking about in the end isn't it?
The noose is slowly tightening and cutting off the blood supply, before long we will be in a constant state of fear and trepidation, yet this is only psychological, we need to make sure they don't get a firm foothold, in fact, it should be the reverse, they should fear the people!
It takes a strong mind and caring heart to win over this evil, stop paying the tv license for one! I don't pay mine and have had a few visits but they know they cannot do anything. I simply refuse to fund terrorism, that is what we are talking about in the end isn't it?
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I accept the concept of moderation. However having posted to HYS occasionally over many years I feel it is abused. If I say anything non PC, at the beginning of a discussion when it has a chance of rating high on the recommendations it tends to remain in moderation for ages. If I make a less non PC subsequent comment it will be published ahead of the earlier one. I AM CONVINCED the liberal editors at the BBC do this to manipulate apparant public opinion.
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rantinrussell - 27-Nov-09 16:41
I completely agree.
However, if you really want to see biased moderators... head on over to the Sky news website. Not only do they seem to reject your comments if they *aren't* racist ramblings, but their discussion website is just full of racist posts that Sky seem to advocate seeing as they let them stay up, but don't publish any comments that criticise or go against the Sky editorial agenda.
What's the point of asking for comments if they're only going to publish the ones that agree with them?
However, if you really want to see biased moderators... head on over to the Sky news website. Not only do they seem to reject your comments if they *aren't* racist ramblings, but their discussion website is just full of racist posts that Sky seem to advocate seeing as they let them stay up, but don't publish any comments that criticise or go against the Sky editorial agenda.
What's the point of asking for comments if they're only going to publish the ones that agree with them?
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The BBC HYS forum is still being run by a load of jobsworths who follow rules and don't know how to reason.
Sums up many in control behind the scenes.
Sums up many in control behind the scenes.
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HYS Ex-Contributor - 21-Sep-09 12:20
I couldn't agree with you more. Try letting them know that you don't agree with one of their prize presenters/ editors, and you don't stand a chance.
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ihatehypocrasy - 6-Aug-09 20:31
Back ground music is spoiling my evenings viewing, Do the people that make the programmes especially history and documentaries even the news look at the programmes they make? do they really think it needs stupid loud music to drown out what the narrator is saying, its driving me mad. Rick Stein has music while he talks about fish . I give up Ive turned the T V off
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The BBC is the mouth-piece of, and controlled by, the UK Government, which itself is neo-Communist in its politics. That explains all the above by "Have Your Say Critic"
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