In business, the so-called 'glass ceiling' doesn't exist
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In business, the so-called 'glass ceiling' doesn't exist

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I feel I want to state something in recent light of the media attention that is given to it.  The glass ceiling is a myth, it just doesn't exist.

What does exist is the inability to do a job correctly efficiently and on time.  These are attributes and qualities that all business managers look for in there employees.  However the business world can be hostile place where only the strong survive and the weak either end up getting out, or staying in the low level positions from where it's difficult to progress.

Business is not about holding peoples hands as they move to the next level, that's something you get in the schools of today and incidentally another reason why a lot of school leavers have a nasty shock when they start work for the first time.  But that aside, business doesn't have the time or patience to promote up through its ranks equal numbers of men and women.  It demands only the best from the workforce regardless of sex or race.  If racism or sexism is an important issue in your work place then don't start pointing the finger at this so called "glass ceiling" excuse.  Go out and get some good legal advice then take action directly if the problem is that bad.

Don't look at men and say "It's not fair..."

A business woman

There are decisions that we all have consider very carefully in life whether you are male or female.  If you're a woman looking to start a family but also want to have a career, you need to think about what's really important first.  Don't look at men and say "It's not fair that men get employed over women" because it's utter nonsense.  Men don't get employed above women because of their gender, they get promoted quicker because they work more aggressively.  I'm not to saying that there aren't women out there who work in this way too, there are just less women than men that strive as hard for the goals.  We see ambitious women all the time on TV, Ruth Badger for instance.  But the sad fact of the matter is that women are designed by nature to breed, men on the other hand are naturally hunter gatherers.  This is a fact and something we must carry on with unless some bizarre mutation in our gene pool, makes us asexual.  This is quite unlikely to happen so why don't we just play to our strengths?

I have supported maternity leave mothers for about 10 years now in various jobs.  Basically they leave and I have had fill the position until they come back or someone new takes over.  Higher management don't mind women having children at all and more often than not are very accommodating.  However, having children will stunt your career.  There is no doubt about this.  One of the reasons for this is that business moves forward and for the 6 to 12 months you take out of your career things will have moved on at work.  There is a lot of catching up to do after a prolonged absence and from personal experience, the mothers that come back tend to work for about a week or two and then quit to bring up there children.  There isn't a glass ceiling though, it's just a choice at the end of the day.

There's a part of this government (Harriet Harmon perhaps?), that appears to want to make women equal to men, but without the hard work men have put in and to me this is wrong.  Having a child isn't a handicap, it's just a decision that people make.  Yet there seems to be a kind of "positive discrimination" leaking out of the government and it stinks of feminism.  I have no problem with any sex, race, colour, orientation trying to get on in life and create a future for themselves.  I think as long as you put in the required amount of work, you will reap the benefits.  But if there is positive discrimination within business, you will end up with a number of under qualified people running things which can only be a bad thing.

So please don't listen to Harriet Harman and her feminist BULL.


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*fredricktomson  08-Dec-2009 08:25

 
My gripe is woman workers. They complain thst there are not enought well you could have fooled me? I see them all the time on tv. Newsreaders, weather woman. etc they seem to be everywere. So what are woman complaing about? Maybe if woman stayed at home and looked after there children we would be better of. The children would be looked after more and not running amok. Some parents forget they have children! Looking after children is very important. These woman want everything. You can't have your cake and eat it. The other gripe is there shrill voice on tv. When the men talk the sound is fine then the woman talk and its dive for the remote control. Bring back more men on tv and radio.
*Frannie  07-Jul-2009 17:41

 
Women are naturally controlling. They evolved this way because they need to control all environmental variables in the nest environment, the babies health, food, resources, gathering, to ensure the survival of the baby, and the male is part of the equation, providing protection and resources, thus women also feel the need to control men. I've found women bosses can be nice at first but the mask eventually slips and you do one thing to annoy them and they don't forget it, especially if you're not a good-looking male and don't have a lot of status, women are more superficial, less forgiving, more judgmental, more nasty and can get in the way of your career as they tend to be the HR person or a manager/producer, (there is no glass ceiling). Men tend to be the more intelligent ones who're the artists, engineers, and technicians, whereas women tend to be the managers and coordinators (organisers). They can be subconsciously jealous of the men's intellect and punish them occasionally without valid reason.
*soothsayer  02-Jun-2009 15:37

 
Focus, drive, ambition, and drama queen. It's important to experience women in the workplace and analyze how they react. Particularly in stressful situations, I find they frequently struggle, start to play the blame game, stomp around, argue and fail to approach the situation rationally - even suggesting I couldn't do so either!
Women are superficial, it's all picture postcard for a few months, then they can't keep up the Robot act anymore and the focus goes a bit, the drive stutters and the ambition evaporates, (when they realise promotion was obtained because there wasn't anyone else in the race.) All women are different, however, those in jobs that are genuinely difficult soon brings them down to earth. But then they get the sypmathy vote, some support and even some time off.
Men on the other hand get none of this, in fact their confidence will be undermined by having their committment questioned and made to feel support is unlikely to be given. If it is it won't be meaningful or adequate, yet improved performance would be conditional and a repeat of any difficulty made clear that it would be "unwelcome." Bias? you bet! Some even insist this is fair! And they wonder why there's no respect.
*Just plain obvious  23-Dec-2008 01:16

 
No such thing as the glass ceiling in my experience. 1st job - female director FTSE 100 company. 2nd job Female Marketing Director. 3rd job, More female Managers than male (and that was in part of the worlds 2nd largest company). They all have focus, drive and ambition that is obvious to see and all earned huge respect.

It's easy to spot the non performers male, female, black, white brown or what ever colour. Much of the time the culture of the company does not match them but they do not recognise this and sadly like many people today they think the world revolves around them and then the problems start...
*Viewpoint  18-Dec-2008 18:42

 
One of the things you must realize is that these men who move up the corporate ladder are not necessarily the best or the brightest to begin with. Many organization in corporate America provide coaching opportunities for the people that they feel would be an investment in the company. They don't necesarily have the abilities and skills to begin with, but they are taught and provided with mentors. However, only 9% of corporate boards and executive management are women. I agree that it is partially due to the choice that a lot of women decide to leave the corporate environment to raise children (then have a hell of a time justifying their time off when they decide to re-enter the work force - shame.) But, with that many men in those power positions, how many of them do you think to recommend their male counterparts before the females? Females aren't even considered, not because they are less capable, but because of preference.
*dlove  07-Dec-2008 22:31

 
""But the sad fact of the matter is that women are designed by nature to breed, men on the other hand are naturally hunter gatherers"
hmmm. How very glib."

So which part wasn't entirely accurate?

Big Wooden Spoon - can I have some of your medication please?
*Northern Lad  21-Oct-2008 13:37

 
"But the sad fact of the matter is that women are designed by nature to breed, men on the other hand are naturally hunter gatherers"
hmmm. How very glib.
*EmpressZorg  21-Oct-2008 04:58

 
In order to allow any serious professional female to take your comments seriously, I would strongly recommend improving your spelling prior to writing such an entry (not grammar rather than "grammer" per Pissed Off Professional Girls' retort).
Most of my female colleagues, who also happen to be mothers, are earning substantially more than their husbands/partners, which makes a mockery of your "rant".
You clearly have NOT been supporting "maternity leave mothers" and, as such, they have likely been demonstrating similar loyalty.
*Big Wooden Spoon  19-Oct-2008 20:50

 
Never mind the glass ceiling, what about the glass bottom? I have been trying to find a woman to go out to work, so I don't have to. Women it seems want to work for high wages, same as men, which is fine. But I want the women to keep on working so I can spend time enjoying life, playing golf, occasional lunchtime visit to the pub, visit friends etc.
Apparently it's OK for her to do this, but not me. Men who work full time, with female partners who only work part-time (say less than 12 hrs a week) or not at all, have got to be mugs!
*Get women off to work!!!  15-Oct-2008 23:05

 
The City crooks who live and work in glass buildings in the City of London msuts all be brought to justce for their crimes
*Don't let them get away with it  14-Oct-2008 20:03


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