The police are not above the law
02-September-2010
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If there's one thing that really irritates me, it's the policemen and women in area patrol cars that think they are above the law.  This seems to be the case all too frequently these days.  Practically every week without fail, I see them pulling out of side roads into the path of some unfortunate and occasionally even in front of my car.  No blue flashing lights and no apology!

I watched this happen to a middle aged man who proceeded wave his displeasure at the offending police car.  Subsequently, the police car allowed him in front and flashed him to pull over. He was given a producer, despite having his license and insurance documentation in hand.  They vigorously checked every detail of his car for faults and when his nearside fog light (in the bumper) didn’t work (on a bright sunny day!), they informed him that he was in a dangerous car was required to have it fixed immediately.  He complained at the station, but was given a lot of useless drivel - I know this, because it was my father!  As it happens I’m a mechanic so informed the police officers that the defective light wasn’t a major problem and it would be fixed, at which point I was told to mind my own business and get back into the car before I was arrested for some law that I’d never heard of before!

Recently I was driving along a winding road and met a police area car traveling on my side of the road at speed.  It was on blind corner of a right-hand bend and he forced me to take evasive action by swerving into a lane. This resulted in me hitting the curb and the impact caused the wishbone on my car to snap rendering it unmovable.  The police had slowed to crawl and after being told that I was in the wrong, they cautioned me for dangerous driving.  My passenger who was witness to the whole thing agreed with me completely and yet her evidence to the case was discredited because she was wearing sunglasses!

A police jacket

One or two of my friends have had accidents with police cars and been blamed for them too despite being innocent.  My point is that I can’t stand being penalized by people with a god like attitude, causing accidents and getting away with it because of the uniform.  It's just not on!

By: Annoyed


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The trouble is it is now a fact the police can do as they like even KILL innocent bystanders on camera and get away with it Scot free IT's ALREADY A POLICE RUN COUNTRY
*iloveplodnot  24-Jul-2010 11:21

 
Saturday 13 Jun 09. 11:25 am. Valley Moor road in Sheffield. Police patrol car Vauxhall Astra, two occupants. Male driver, female passenger.

Driver of the police car was on a mobile phone and entered the opposite side of the road.

Oh, I forgot. It's one law for us and one law for them. Silly ole me.
*K. Mathers  18-Jun-2009 23:38

 
The bobbies Suck, oh wait, actually they suck the Bobby....gag gag gag......remember they think that they have got the beginnings of their own little Police government above the real one, they think that they are going to have it all cooshy, who's da boss and all that, gonna pee pee all over you the public, jump! - how high mr police offica master grand boss sir? lick my boots.....wash my car....give me your wife.....dance punk dance....click bang bang ...patoing patoing..bang...ha hahahaha haha ha dance hee hee
*dalotof them what it was done it ...not me  21-May-2009 23:02

 
PS. To my earlier message,
Not only should both Police officers involved in this incident received custodial sentences, but their superiors, who authorised the exercise under these conditions, should be charged too; if only for Aiding and Abetting.
Had any Company set up such an exercise in similar situations, with such tragic results, I am sure that all concerned would have received custodial sentences. SO, why should the Police be exempt? After all, they have a duty of care towards the public that they are supposed to be protecting.
With the advent of aerial survailance, why is it neccessary for Police chases of the type carried out in this exercise really neccessary?
It is well past time for the Police Force to start accepting responsibility for their actions, and unless on emergancy calls, the Police should be subject to the same laws as everyone else.
I wish to extend my sincerest condolances to the Families of the deceased in this incident.
*Cynic  08-Oct-2008 02:28

 
Well, it has happened again, yet another police officer gets away with bad driving at high speed.
Today, both a Police constable, and a police instructor have both been given inappropriately mild sentances following the death of two people caused by a Police "training exercise".
When the road where the "training" took place was shown on TV, it was obvious to any right thinking person that the speeds (up to 104 mph) that both police officers were travelling at was completely inapropriate for that stretch of road. Yet the instructor was aquitted, and the Police Officer had the charge of "Causing Death by Dangerous Driving" reduced to "Driving without due care" Banned from driving for 2 years, and fined £500.
Had this been an ordinary member of the Public, I am sure that they would have been convicted of "Causing Death by Dangerous Driving" and had to serve a stretch in prison too.
The Judge in the case rightly criticised the Lancashire police Force for " Institutionalised Complacency" regarding Police training on Public roads.
No doubt, that the Police will say that these training exercises are "vital", but there have been several cases of similar cases where police training exercises have caused death to innocent road users, and Yet the Officers concerned were treated in a similar manner.
If the Police need to carry out these exercices on Public roads, perhaps they will also advocate allowing tha Army to carry out their training in a similar manner too.
*Cynic  08-Oct-2008 01:51

 
I think they should be above the law. The Queen is above the law, as in Regina.V.missing canoe man. The police are drama queens. Maybe not quite the same thing as the queen, but close enough in legal terms?
*Freddie La Rue  21-Aug-2008 23:02

 
Mr Docherty, so your admitting there is corruption in the police force!!!. I personally dont like speeding and I am far from sticking up for my brother but the fact of the matter is it was 2am and I myself would not let my child out at this time in the moening and the only person saying he exeeded 80mph is the copper's in a highway patrol car you know the one's fitted with cctv, where is the video evidance the fact is theres non why? (these cop's are bent). My brother is telling me he didn't exeed 60mph never mind 80mph and personally I believe him. As he was only chased over 10 mile distance which took 35 min to stop. now you tell me how quick you could cover the same distance at that speed and if he did exeed 80mph how slow must he have been driving over the rest of the distance. If he is guilty then why would these statments be exactly word by word the same, they would have been worded differently at least.

please answer the above questions

P.s. do you ever drive over 30mph if so then your last fact applys to you aswel.
This is how coppers get away with being bent because people like yourself cant fault them or are you a copper. No wonder this country is the way it is.
*S LAMB, WASHINGTON  26-Jun-2008 22:59

 
my younger brother has just been charged with dangerous driving over a 10 mile distance which took 35 min to end. (How fast was he going? you tell me! but the copper involed who was driving a T5 patrol car said he exeeded speeds of 80 mph) any way back to the point. when I received the witnesses statments I nearly died when there was 8 officers as witnesses "36 pages of evidence against my brother so I thought lets try and find differences between statments. so I got stuck in trying to find floors in the statments when I find out there was 13 officers apparently gave statments and only 5 of the 8 statments where actuly signed so there was my first couple of questions for the solicitor to find out and then I noticeed all 8 statments where word for word the same the only differances being where the paragraff ended and 5 of the officers had signed these under oath. and then the final floor I have found was there is statments by PC**** but they have been sign by different officers.

I am not trying to say my brother had done right far from that im a big believer of "do the crime now do the time". But I know coppers bend the rules to get a result and I think this prove's it as I know it is a crime in itself to falsify evidence to maximise conviction and I also thought it was a crime to disguss a case with other witnesses. NOW I WOULD LIKE SOMONE TO TELL ME IM WRONG ABOUT POLICE OFFICERS THEY ARE ALL BENT ONEWAY OR ANOTHER
*S LAMB, WASHINGTON  25-Jun-2008 22:45

 
No I wouldn't but I also know that whilst the police sometimes fully deserve to be criticised you cannot entirely lay the blame for such things at their door. I guarantee you that they would like nothing better than to catch the offenders and deal with them but there are things that stand in their way of doing so. I don't want to sound like I'm banging the same tired old drum about resources etc. but the facts speak for themselves. Insufficient resources is a common cliche but cliches are cliches for a reason. That aside, even if resources were not an issue, there is invariably a wall of silence from the public. I understand why! If nothing happens then they fear they will be next but until the public make that stand the cycle of behaviour will not change. I totally understand the publics poor perception of the police and on occasions I agree with it but I firmly believe that if the public threw their support 100% behind them things would start to change. I've said it here before and I'll say it again, people want a gold standard service of policing but also want to pay ultra low taxes etc. It cannot work! It's that simple. The police, the NHS, the other emergency services all need funding that is taken from the taxes paid by you and I. We can't have it both ways, none of us.
*Freddie  09-Jun-2008 13:30

 
Freddie,

I know there are plenty of police out there that work hard and it's the kind of job where you get out what you put in. I have the upmost praise for them, particularly when they arrive at accidents and be the bearers of sad news.

You need to put yourself in others shoes now and then. My friend lives on a council estate and it's like a battleground. Every week his living room window is smashed by some yobs hurling bricks. They wait until it has been replaced and do it again and again. The living room that his family all share.

This is the police solution - They told him to put masking tape over the glass so that this would minimise harm when the brick comes through. Unbelievable! They aren't going to try and catch them, just offer advice for when bricks are thrown through your front window at 11pm.

Tell us Freddie, would you be happy with this service?
*Tony M  09-Jun-2008 12:12

 
Tony M...nobody is forcing you to read anything are they!!!!!!!!!
I simply try to point out that most people understanding of the police, I.e their powers/obligations/role in society etc. is misguided. The public in this country are brought up on a diet of Inspector Morse, The Bill, The Sweeney etc. and from that they generate their view of what the police are about. The fact is that it bears no relation to the police in the real world and people make their judgements based on little or no knowledge of the way things really are. Despite that they feel qualified to criticise the police at every given opportunity and do not see the need to justify or evidence their comments.
And yes, I believe the Police do us all favours every day! Without them the country would be in a state of lawless anarchy. You only ever hear the disgruntled people because they are the only people shouting. People do not sit back and gather all the facts (evidence etc.) before sounding off and accusing them of wrong doing yet if they were being accused they would demand that evidence was put forward to prove allegations. It doesn't seem quite right does it?
If people got off their backs and let them do their jobs then they might be able to get a bit more done. Unfortunately the public want that improved output whilst still having a dig at them.
*Freddie  09-Jun-2008 10:43

 
Freddie, You are the master of posting crap, you really are. You'll be telling the police are doing you favours next.

You need to get a grip and sort your life out cos your not living on this planet. Space cadet.
*Tony M  08-Jun-2008 22:26


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