TV Licensing send threatening letters
17-May-2008
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Well it looks as if the TV Licensing people haven't got the message yet, even though their “enforcement officers” paid us a visit just over a week ago.  I moved to this house a few months ago by the way and have so far completely ignored all the letters that they have sent demanding that I buy a TV Licence or possibly face a fine.

I don't see why I should communicate with these parasites every time I move house to tell them I still do not have a television.  Why should I?  It's a clear case of being guilty until you prove you are innocent.  As for the enforcement officer with the TV detector van that turned up last week, well he wanted to come in and take a look around to make sure we didn't have a TV.  Naturally I wasn't going to permit a stranger to come into my home without some more official looking documentation.

That TV Licensing badge looked authentic enough, but this guy could have been anyone and I didn't see a van up the street!  He could even have been there just to case the joint for some future robbery or it could have been a distraction burglary, you hear about them all the time.  I sent him away to get a warrant because he wasn't about to enter my house without one.  He mumbled something about making a phone call and that they had detected a television in my house.  I pointed out that the only thing they could have detected was the computer as I don't have a TV.

A sample threatening letter from TV Licensing

That was that I thought as I closed the door and I still haven't heard anything further regarding an inspection so who knows.  I had thought that our little conversation was enough to set the record straight, tick in the box that this house doesn't have a TV etc.  Apparently not though because I received yet another threatening letter from the TV Licensing people addressed to “The Occupier”.  Very strange that, because the “enforcing officer” that turned up on my doorstep took a note of my name.  I would have thought that information should have filtered through they system somehow.

Anyway, this letter is actually the reason for writing this gripe (click on the image to read it in full).  It's the tone of it that I really don't like.  It comes across as very threatening and intimidating and if any other company were to send out this kind of material on a regular basis, I am pretty sure there would be a national uproar.  How do they get away this?

The letter begins with OFFICIAL WARNING in underlined capitals.  A warning of course means cautionary advice about something imminent (especially imminent danger).  An official warning therefore carries more weight.  It means you've done something wrong (or they think you've done something wrong).  Even the typeface comes across as a bit official and stern and this is deliberate I think.  Then there's the liberal scattering of words and phrases such as "police", "criminal" and "court appearance" in the text.

In my opinion this document isn't designed to help you buy a TV Licence, rather it is designed to SCARE you into buying one and that to me is just not on!  When did it suddenly become okay for companies to send out threatening letters like this?

As I mentioned earlier, I don't have a TV and I don't want one.  But I also don't believe that I should have to inform these people whenever I move house that I still don't want a television.  I especially resent being harassed (yes, that is exactly what this is) and treated like a criminal because I dare to stray from the norm and not buy a TV licence.

Can you imagine how an elderly person would feel having received a threatening letter like this?  Not particularly nice is it?

By: Kenny

How to deal with TV Licensing

Avoiding TVL/BBC harassment
Someone very kindly sent in a link to this site. It contains lots of useful information about dealing with the TV Licensing people and in particular what they can and can't do. I'm inclined to draw your attention to the section called "Tips for avoiding TVL/BBC harassment" on the left hand menu at the top of the page.


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TV Licensing are scum. They are bullies without any legal authority whatsoever. If you want to get rid of them, write to them withdrawing the implied access to your property. They will huff and puff about using other means, but will have no choice but to accede to your wishes. I have moved several times and agree you should not have to prove your innocence in this way but it's worth ending the hassle of the intimidating mail in the end.
*pooh_bear138  03-May-2008 18:36

 
Some good information on letters from TV licensing and about detector vans are to be found in the following website:http://www.bbctvlicence.com/
*Thomas  27-Mar-2008 20:18

 
I have always understood that TV Detector vans do not work, and never have worked. They are just for show. That is why they have that science-fiction forest of ironmongery on the roof.

How probable is it that they could distinguish a TV from a computer display, whether CRT or other?

Does anyone know differently?
*Cheesy Townsend  12-Feb-2008 10:11

 
I don't think there is anyway that they can detect whether or not you have a TV and assume that you do. A friend of mine who is a student at University is constantly harassed by these people, even though He doesn't have a TV.

now the reason I say this is that a TV works by receiving signals from a mast, it does not emit any signals of its own, therefore it is entirely passive, and passive devices can not be detected through the radio signals they receive. hence they can't detect if you have a TV or not.

They can know if you have license or not though a database. now if we take all the houses that don't have a license and assume they have a TV. then Visit them and say our van has "detected" their TV and if they have one they should pay for it because they think they have been "detected" the vans are a lie, they can't do anything more than Provide transport.
*daniel  01-Feb-2008 23:18

 
<I seem to suffer from a syndrome of being disturbed by things other people don't find important at all . I've noticed the BBC are advertising that you can catch up onprograms on the internet. I was thinking "why are they putting programs on the internet for free if they aren't going to get any licence fee from it" .Then the horror of it dawned on me . They're going to use it to argue a case for licencing having a computer or laptop if it's connected to the internet.They want to trap us before it's too late and all their revenue gets away. Using the same logic they force people to have licences by having TV's. You may possibly watch the BBC so you must pay,no choice.
It makes me so sick. I already think the TV licence is such a disgrace and such an abuse of Civil liberties I can't understand why millions of people aren't lobbying to abolish it. The harrassment is unbelievable.Probably because the revenue is even more unbelievable. Well all I'm saying is when it happens remember I told you so.Yes it's just mad old me. And don't expect to see my concerns being aired on News 24 unless they've been doctored.>
*Scared  02-Jan-2008 16:05

 
Do you feel that even daring to think about this is like being watched by BigBrother in 1984. Forget about BigBrother program and 1984 having been and gone.Remember the real horror of that book.Perhaps it should've been called 2008. I've got to the stage almost of thinking resistance is useless. It's like a thought police situation.Isn't there anything we can do about it instead of just discussing it .I want to find a place where millions of people are campaigning to abolish it.
"The BBC is now quietly lobbying for the licence fee to be extended to computers connected to broadband networks."
This confirms my worst fear. Alot of the argument against abolishing TV is the no adverts argument and because it mainly comes from the BBC people seem to be brainwashed into not seeing any other side of the argument like freedom of choice not to be bullied into make alot of people very rich at our expense.
It's a Catch 22 for the people that work there. Would they encourage us to want to abolish the licence even if they thought it was wrong? Would they resign because of their conscience? Who would know if they did? TV is like a monster out of control. Luckily we seem to have the capacity to fight back with our computers for now but we're running out of time.

Here is another message I posted at another website but I'm afraid to add anymore to it because I'm not confident of how relevent it is to that site.
*Scared  02-Jan-2008 16:05

 
You ask "what would an elderly person think if they were to receive a letter like this".....well, my in-laws DID receive one, several years ago. They had no TV, didn't want one and thus had no licence, BUT they were also over 75 years of age so it didn't matter anyway, because you don't then need a licence.
I would just march the letter straight off to a solicitor, despite the cost, just for the satisfaction of screwing the sods into the ground.
*overfiftys  25-Dec-2007 16:48

 
when they came round to our house and demanded to know "what do you do without a television?" we showed them a chess board. d**khead didnt have much to say to that.
*bejjj  21-Dec-2007 14:11

 
sorry forgot the link

http://www.harassment-law.co.uk/
*ANON for obvious reason  16-Dec-2007 04:41

 
Write to this chap, send a formal letter of complaint about harassment, job done
*ANON for obvious reason  16-Dec-2007 04:40

 
Although I do own a television now, for many years my first husband and I did not. Although back then the technology was different, we were still bombarded with letters and once had a knock on the door from one of those tv detector vans saying that we were viewing a tv without a licence! We didn't even own a tv, the wretched man would not believe me, so I invited him in to see for himself, whereupon my wonderful dog went for him which was really funny and served him right. He never apologised (the dog didn't bite him, just barked at him), just left in a huff because he had been proved wrong. When I remarried, my second husband also had not had a tv, only buying one when his first wife fell ill and needed some entertainment. For years they too had been harangued by the licensing authority.

What gives these people the right to assume that you own a tv? My parents do not, can't stand the things, but luckily for them are down a long drive and so far have not been bombarded with nasty letters.
*Nikki  14-Dec-2007 13:07

 
From TV Licensing Authority: "You see everyone owns a television. Those who don't are liars who 'will be caught". Frankly I find that quite offensive, I mean I know not to take the threat letters personally, but their approach is still despicable." . . . "the mechanism which gives them the right to invade peoples' property on a whim seems as immoral as it does insulting.

Not only that but the blind assumption that everyone owns a TV and anyone who says otherwise is a liar is bloody annoying.
*M Denyer  14-Dec-2007 12:45


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