British Industry and the Metric System
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Everyone who gripes about the metric system has contributed to the loss of all UK motor and engineering factories, which continued manufacturing their products designed in inches after 1975.  The job losses since Accession have been published as between 8 and 10 million.  That is a vast national scandal.

British Industry and the Metric System

The 1964 Wilson government's policy that British Industry would adopt metric units "within ten years" was announced in Parliament on 24th May 1965 by the President of the Board of Trade at that time, Rt Hon Douglas Jay MP through a Parliamentary Written Answer to a question by John Horner, Labour MP for Oldbury and Halesowen.

The reason for this was that the Commonwealth nations started to dismantle the Commonwealth Preference System of trade protection, so that they could import foreign products like FIAT, VW, Renault and Citroen cars and trucks,buses, trains, generators, construction equipment and all kinds of vital products from other countries.  They wanted change from the Mother Country.

British industry, including the UK operations of US industrial companies, was bound to lose its existing market share in the Commonwealth countries, and market share in the home country, as British garage owners and users of transport and industrial equipment started to buy imports in volume.

Certain British companies, particularly BMC centred on Longbridge, thought they were safe concentrating on the North American market, so they ignored the government policy and continued making inch cars.  However, the Annus Horribilis of BMC was 1967, which is recorded in the book "The Leyland Papers" by BBC journalist Graham Turner.  In 1968 the Americans imported 80,000 cars from BMC, but this fell literally to zero over five years to 1973.  It may have been pique by America at the UK joining the European Common Market.  Some of them are resentful people if they are not top dog, as was plainly seen when the UK and France jointly presented Concorde.

The above market shifts meant that British industry had to find alternative markets to replace losses in its traditional markets.  The major option was the European mainland, which had dropped Whitworth threads, inches and all the things which Britain celebrates and promotes through heritage culture.

The industrial metrication programme was necessary because we depended for the survival of our engineering-based industries on foreign people buying them in volume, who also realised that we were losing our Commonwealth, or at least exclusive terms protecting our trade.  We make a fundamental and fatal mistake by ignoring, shunning, lampooning or despising our European neighbours.  The weakness lies with us, not with them.  UK companies cannot hope to survive if our nation through its media publicly insults its actual and potential customers abroad.  Foreign opinion-formers can read and on TV understand our language, but we cannot comprehend theirs.

The famous British scientists Sir Isaac Newton and James Prescott Joule did their experiments and wrote their theses in English weights and measures.  It was difficult comparing them with the French Academy of Sciences in the 17th century, and our industries based on pounds, feet and inches were prosperous in the British Empire of the 19th Century, through to its demise in 1945.

At the opening of the first motorway (the Preston Bypass) the metric system was introduced on the distance posts along the hard (and sometimes soft!) shoulder, and the Weights and Measures Act of 1st July 1963 for the first time fixed the relationship between the yard and the metre, and the pound and the kilogram in Law.  This would enable us to communicate with equality in science and industry and economic development with our neighbours, but we messed it up and threw it all away. We make nothing, import everything, export nothing, are subservient to all other industrial nations, yet make ourselves out to be successful.  Britain is a nation of complacent leaders, who have been unable to run anything except catering establishments since the Americans dumped us.  They did it first at the Boston Tea party and again in 1968.  More detail can be obtained from the UK Metric Association website.

By: The Metric Crusader


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gray (Gy)
the SI unit of radiation dose. Radiation carries energy, and when it is absorbed by matter the matter receives this energy. The dose is the amount of energy deposited per unit of mass. One gray is defined to be the dose of one joule of energy absorbed per kilogram of matter, or 100 rad. The unit is named for the British physician L. Harold Gray (1905-1965), an authority on the use of radiation in the treatment of cancer.
*L. Harold Gray  15-Sep-2007 21:19

 
Pray tell us what unit of measure the "Gray " is used for?

Is this the relative amount of cloud cover over Britain on a miserable winter's day?

A HectoGray equal to 100% percent cloud cover

A milligray equal to a single whisp of cloud in the sky.
*KiloGruesome  15-Sep-2007 20:33

 
All these tired old comments about how horrible the metric system is seems to leave out one important factor. The whole world is metric and metric countries and growing and prospering, not only at the expense of the UK worker, but at the expense of the American worker.

Germany, a solid metric country where no one debates obsolete versus metric issues, is the worlds largest exporter. They flood the world with metric products. As does China and every other country in Asia.

The US and UK are in deep financial trouble as a result of exporting their manufacturing to metric countries. As long as imperialists hide behind the disguise of tradition the world will continue to do their buying elsewhere and play a major role in impoverishing both the US and the UK. A deserved punishment.
*Dan  15-Sep-2007 04:33

 
The newton, joule, degree kelvin, farad, dalton and gray are all SI units. What else do they have in common? They were all named after British scientists or engineers. No other country matches this record.

Who was the first person to propose a coherent system of measurement based on decimal numbers? John Wilkins, first president of the Royal Society in 1668. It should be noted that Gabrielle Mouton published his proposals in 1670.

Who cast the current prototype kilogram? James Mathey & Co of London in the mid 1880’s. They also cast the prototype metre which was in use from 1889 until 1960 when the meter was defined by reference to a particular wavelength of light rather than to a particular artefact.

Who says that the metric system is not British?
*MartinV  14-Sep-2007 08:51

 
Oracle2007 said:
"Firstly, don't try to obtain a quarter of a quantity using the metric system. You can't do it without resorting to fractions"

Mr 2007, isn't a quarter a fraction? Or am I missing something? 1/4. That looks like a fraction to me. 1/4 inch - an imperial fraction. 250 mm (1/4 metre) - a metric fraction?

Get your "facts" right before lecturing others on theirs.
*Dave the Rave  14-Sep-2007 08:38

 
We should all be using God's counting system, in sevens, The septenary system.
*The Miracle of Septenary Design  11-Sep-2007 20:32

 
Our resident tradtionalist, Oracle2007, probably still believes, scout's honour, in the Holy Trinity

God, Queen and Country

The Paris Commune did not happen until 1871

There was nothing "Communist", in the modern sense with the French Revoution

The French "Communes" were very similar to the English Parishes. They had their poor laws too. Nothing Communist about these parishes either.

English, too, is full of stupid words like

hemidemisemiquaver
floccinaucinihilipification

Oracle2007's feeble history of science beggars belief

Don't take a bag of 12 or 16 apples if you're going to a party of seven.

Metric prefixes Deka- and Hecto- are in very common use; as are Milli, Centi- and Deci-

Kilo- is the most common.

Oracle2007 failed to provide us with a formal definition of what a pound was.

Oracle2007 is probably a diehard on the currency: a believer in the English Pound Sterling. Would he like to explain what a Troy pound of sterling silver is?
*SI Unitarian  11-Sep-2007 16:02

 
SI Unitarian probably thinks the Communards were a pop group.
*Suabian  11-Sep-2007 13:59

 
In a bid to outdo each other in either inventive insults or supposedly clever economic argument you miss a key point. I'd be keen to know your views: if you were introducing a system of weights and measures to a people who had none, would you really choose imperial over metric? If the answer is no - and most whom I've asked who were in favour of retaining the imperial system have been honest enough to answer "No" - then why stand in the way of the nation changing to a simpler and more unversally understood system? I would genuinely be keen to hear from someone in favour of retaining imperial measurements who can help me understand a future benefit to the nation in retaining this system, rather than referring to past building projects created using imperial measurements, or the 'it's our tradition' route.
*ShudBWorkin  11-Sep-2007 13:18

 
Gosh, it gets boring when the metric fanatics always serve up the same tired, pointless
arguments if you show them the flaws in their thinking! As I posted my previous
comments, I thought "Here come all the insults about chains, furlongs, barleycorns, etc.,
again. Surely someone will have a new angle this time?"

But, no. SI Unitarian, desperate to parade his knowledge of archaic terms, wades in with
the usual mishmash of obsolete measurements to support his immature view that the
imperial system is out of date and should be laid to rest. In case you haven't noticed, SIU,
nobody uses such terms any more - except those who have run out of anti-imperial system
arguments.

What SIU overlooks (perhaps deliberately) is that the metric system itself is riddled with
equally potty terminology, unintelligible to the point of lunacy to the average human
being. Try using the prefixes deca, hecto, tera, peta, exa, zetta, yotta, atto, zeppo, yocto, etc., in everyday speech and count the baffled looks you receive. But, hey, it's metrication so it's good for you.

As for Communism starting in 1848, SIU should go back to his history books and study
what was happening in the French Communes. Marx, Engels and Co., just wrote down
and extrapolated what was already established fact. But I forgot: nowadays they don't
teach history prior to the late Nineteenth Century, do they?

It's sad really. As predicted, this metrocrat ignored practically every single one of the
points I made. I suggest he goes back to measuring the distance between the Equator and
the North Pole in yoctometres. But don't take along a bag of 10 apples if you're in a party
of 3: you'll go mad before you find a way of dividing them evenly.
*Oracle2007  11-Sep-2007 12:46

 
Oracle2007 must have been one of those old dears trying to buy bananas in the market in avoirdupois pounds, jolly old libras from the middle ages. Pray tell me how a Pound weight is formally defined?

There are exactly 10,000,000 metres from the equator to the north pole via the Paris meridien.

Oracle2007 would like his beer served in kennings, though the span of his brain is limited, being of a barleycorn size.

Perhaps he still buys cloth for his trousers in ells; I cannot fathom why.

Or he still ploughs his land in oxgates and bovates.

I will be charging him a knight's fee for all this information.

Communism was not defined until 1848 in the Communist Manifesto, so I can't see how the metric system can have anything to do with it.
*SI Unitarian  11-Sep-2007 11:30

 
One of the main reasons for detesting the metric system is that it has almost always been
imposed on nations by compulsion. It's a Communist system, of course, perfected by the
French Revolutionaries to ensure that, not only would all people be equal, they would
also think exactly the same - or forfeit their heads. To this end (while the blood-crazed
Terror was raging through Paris streets) they originally proposed not only kilometres,
decagrams, etc., they also wanted a 100-minute hour; a 10-day week; and a 10-month
year. It couldn't possibly work, of course, but, hey, it's metrication, so it's perfection!

The absurd system would never have taken off at all had not Napoleon marched across
Europe, leaving millions dead and countries forced into adopting metrication in his wake. At first, Napoleon had listened to the siren voices of the barmy Revolutionaries but, as the years
went by, he began to have doubts. One day, very puzzled, he said "I can envisage a
quarter of an inch but I find it impossible to envisage the thousandth part of a metre".

Napoleon had finally realised that long-established traditions of human existence carried
more weight and were more desirable than trendy, new thinking, applied just for the sake
of change. On his death bed, he was asked "Is there anything you regret?" He replied,
"Yes, the Metric System and how my Armies inflicted it on Europe".

But, alas, it was all too late.
*Oracle2007  11-Sep-2007 11:01


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