NHS doctors moaning about pay

There are doctors - paediatricians, surgeons, radiologists etc who very hard for the NHS for many many years and then have good reason to gripe when their pensions are taken from them or their hard-earned pay rises, because of the NHS fat cat managers. Not all doctors asking for pay rises are GPs and let's be honest they probably work a lot harder. These are the doctors who are losing out with the NHS management taking all the money and spending very little on healthcare or on giving deserved pay rises. The management are who you should have a gripe with.

Dr's earn enough money already. I used to have a 70hr a week work and get paid 300 pounds a week. Nobody worked harder than me, why shoulds they get so well rewarded as it is us who pays for them to train in the first place.

I'm a Nursing Auxiliary or as people call them "Health care assistants".

I'm usually one of the people you find coming onto shift, getting patients out of bed, washed, fed, changing beds, cleaning bed bound patients up when they mess themselves, checking charts, cathaters, drains, moving patients dozens of times a day to and from the toilet or from their beds to their chairs, taking care of their hygene needs. Performing CPR if I'm the first on scene or being a shoulder to cry on or a listener. All of this, whilst there is me and a nurse looking after 20 or so people because of money restrains on staffing, being spoken to like a mere servant, like I'm to blame for their condition. I never actually get to stop unless I have my 2 breaks....and they are usually delayed by a few hrs.

All of that for almost 12k a year. Then we have doctors and other medical staff alike, complaining about their wages that are about triple or quadruple mine, being to low, that they are more skilled than anybody else.

If anything, the lower payees should be given the higher wage.

Still, I love my job and it's nice to get that stuff off your chest once in a while.

GP’s are a true waste of money. Al others sectors of the NHS has to continuously prepare systems to cover their inefficiencies. The service is not free. They are paid huge sums to be faced with arrogance and incompetence.

Most GPs in my experience are a waste of time and money. They are incapable of diagnosing only the simplest of cases. My doctor missed finding cancer in me and failed to refer me to a specialist.


Doctors like that should be fired, but I guess it will be too late in my case

It would be a bit more acceptable if all GP's were even half decent at their job. I've heard so many recollections of people going to the practice I use and groaning when told which Doctor they will be seeing.

One person I know had bladder cancer and went to the Doctor, who knew about this case, with internal bleeding. Apart from the discomfort, the patient's catheter was quickly filling up with blood. The Doc just sent him home saying, "see if it heals up. But ,if it hasn't done by later on that night go to A & E!!" 2 days later he was in the specialist cancer unit where he had to stay for 3 nights, because A & E sent him home the next morning too. The cancer unit were stunned at what they described as shockingly poor service from, the doctor for failing to refer, and A&E for sending him home whilst still bleeding.

The repeated number of incidents I hear along these lines is clear evidence of widespread incompetence throughout the NHS. It starts with the Dept of Health - namely a politician. Enough said!

I work for the NHS and I think the pay is fine! It's simply the fact that we are paid in coppers that outrages me - how can you get £58,000 in 1 and 2p's? This is an outrage - so much so that I alone am going to take over the world!! I am Hitler reborn!! I am not going to tell you that my secret base is in Iraq at 863 567!!

what a lot of rubbish. why dont you go to medical school, become a doctor and stop complaining about their pay if you are so jealous about it.

Ever since doctors were given these massive pay rises a large percentage have gone part time as they can earn more than enough in two or three days. Some have even gone down to one day per week and they are partners in the practice! How do I know this? I'm work in admin. in a doctors practice and am in charge of finding locums to fill in for our own doctors who are off golfing and sailing (I kid you not). These locums are in such demands we have to pay them a fortune and treat them like gods to get them to do a single shift. It is not uncommom for them to be paid £400 for a single shift in which time they see maybe 15 to 20 patients in the surgery and do maybe 4 to 6 housecalls. Nice work if you can get it! I get the blame if locums can not be found to fill in and I don't even make £400 per week!

Doctors in this country, especially GPs, are grossly overpaid. The system adopted in this country where GPS maintain a "private" business funded by the state is appalling. We the patients are not getting value for money at all from these people.

Their surgeries look like something out the nineteenth cetury. They lack the on-site services and equipment they should provide. Each practice has insufficient doctors.

Let's stop this half-private half-public nonsense. Either the doctors work for the State or they don't. If they work for the State then they will be paid a salary commensurate with their level of skill, which in the case of a GP is not very great.

Trade Unions were squashed in this country. It's now time to squash the "professional bodies" like the Law Society, the Bar Council, the General Medical Council etc..

Think you are probably better looking outside the proffessionals who provide a good service under difficult circumstances, (I am including doctors and physios) and direct your anger at the wallys who run the NHS and cause the type of problems you described.

The strain you guys are under to meet targets and then massage those figures is unnaceptable, We hear everyday of the nightmares in the nhs but are railroaded by mp's pointing at spreadsheets and figures that "prove" we have never had it so good.