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Why I don't trust the police

I'm going to outline some reasons why I don't trust the police and why I believe they are ineffective.  I have never been in trouble with the police until recently and I am in general a law abiding person.  But when I came to university however, the police were suddenly very much involved with my life - and not for the good.

My first encounter involved me being beaten about the head several times by a guy who was kicking off because he had split up with his girl friend.  I called the police who arrived long after it was all over.  They failed report the incident properly and didn't find the guy, even though it was a Friday night and there ideally ought to have been a police presence in the city centre.

Then a few months later I was extremely drunk on a night out and was arrested for 'public nuisance'.  I was also FALSELY accused of hitting someone - wrong place, wrong time I think!  During my night in the cells I admit that I was being loud, banging on the cell door etc. and generally making a fool out of myself (I was very drunk).  That did not excuse what happened next.  The officers had obviously decided they wanted to shut me up.  They barged into my cell and wrestled me to the floor banging my head on the way, putting my left arm so far up my back they dislocated my shoulder.  He then slapped my head and told me to shut up.

I was left in shock and fearing I they would come in again and I didn't sleep all night.  The next day after I got out and lodged a complaint and asked for custody reports.  On here the police had changed several details about the events that took place stating I was aggressive and had 'lashed out' when they tried to give me a blanket (which they never did).

As my complaint progressed I became aware I was getting a lot of parking tickets, while cars on the same road were not getting any.  It seemed I was seeing police everywhere.  Then my car was broken into by someone who did not take anything just smashed the window and left the car stereo which they could have easily taken.  The car was then towed as the police said they could not find me to tell me it had been broken into, another 110 to get it out.  I had the window repaired the next day and while it was being done a police officer called who was not the one handling the case.  He asked about the state of the car and I told him it had been repaired.

A police jacket That night at 6.30pm the car was broken into again, nothing taken of course and the car was parked right outside my house!  What criminal would do the same car twice and risk doing it a 6.30 in the evening!?  I called the police who turned up 15 minutes later. No one was caught.  By this time I suspected the police but continued with my claim anyway.  A week later the police turned up at my door and I thought they may have found the criminals who broke into my car.  But no, they told me I was under arrest for burglary!

I have never EVER had anything to do with something like that.  They said my DNA (taken as due to my caution) had been found at the scene of a theft of some SWEETS from a cafe.  Yes they kept me in a cell for 4 hours to question me over the theft of some confectionery.  Guess who was the custody sergeant while I was being held? The guy I was lodging the complaint against and again I was somewhat nervous as I sat there for four hours.

After this experience I dropped my complaint deciding it was not worth all the hassle.  My last encounter with the police has just reinforced my feelings about them.  I was at home revising for an exam on a Saturday night.  My house mates had gone to the pub and left the front door open.  Next I know a random guy walks into my room!  He was obviously looking for valuables left by unsuspecting students.  When I challenged him he mumbled some excuse and ran out the door.  Again I called the police who turned up THIRTY MINUTES LATER and of course caught no one.

I don't want be my own personal bobby.  I would just like the police to act with some semblance of professionalism and actually catch some real thieves instead of intimidating me.  The lack of professionalism and bullying tactics I have seen being used by police makes me worry every time I hear they are being given more powers.  Powers such as taking DNA samples without our permission, or to make an arrest when they SUSPECT a terrorist.

Before we have a choice in the matter, they are being given even more powers to "fight crime".  We should remember who we are giving these powers to - not only the good natured trustworthy police, but also the bad cops who may use these powers to intimidate innocent members of the public.

By: Peter

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Not to date Kenny. We will have to see how things go, I am sure these issues will be resolved in the fullness of time

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Boblet - 3-Feb-12 11:59 

+MikeP Open to debate on that one. Had considered "Mike P", taking the firstname and first character of surname from your profile name. Alternatively, I could do that and allow the user to override this with a "claimed" username on this site. By the way the only reason for using OAuth is simply to make easier to have an identity on here without the requirement of maintaining yet another username and password.

+Boblet Do you use any other services such as Twitter, Facebook, Yahoo, Live etc.?

Thoughts on the anonymous (or unregistered) comments - should they continue as is, or should they wait for approval?

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Kenny (Site Admin) - 3-Feb-12 10:52 

As I have said in previous posts admin, I am not a joiner. I do not have a google account but I have google as my home page. I have G.O.T.W. in my favs simple. All I can see on google is how to change your password. I have not got a password, so it looks like curtains for me.

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Boblet - 2-Feb-12 22:21 

Thanks Kenny, that's a step forward.

A question about posting with a Google account. If, hypothetically, my Google email address is mikeprick@gmail.com (as many would like to think) what name will appear on my postings?

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MikeP - 2-Feb-12 21:30 

I have a couple of days off work at the end of next week at which point I'll put in place a new system for posting comments.

You will be able to continue to post comments anonymously with just a nickname as before, however they will require approval before appearing. Alternatively, post using your Google account and comments will appear straight away. Later on I will expand this to allow the use of a Twitter account. This will work in a similar fashion to existing forums around the Internet that use a system called Disqus, only it will be limited to Google accounts initially and no Facebook.

A bit of background info on this, it uses a system called OAuth and the reason I'll be doing it this way is so that there isn't another username and password to remember. By default, it will pick up your Firstname, surname first initial and a small thumbnail of your profile picture (if you have one).

Comments and feedback on this idea would be welcome.

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Kenny (Site Admin) - 2-Feb-12 20:35 

No, of course it will never stop that type of thing but it would address some of the troll posts on here that are becoming all too frequent now.
I am aware that I have on occasions been less than complimentary to you on here because you´ve deserved it but I have never posted anything that would suggest you are a kiddy fiddler or anything like that and I never would. For me, there is little worse than being called something like that or having posts put on under your own regular user name that imply you are that way inclined. I just want to see an end to that. I accept it will not stop people calling me it but it would stop those suggestions being attributed to me and others on here that have had it.

That is the main reason I would like to see it brought in here.

No doubt this post will attract a fair share of exactly that type of post now but it is a risk I am aware of.

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Freddie - 2-Feb-12 17:11 

FFFreddie I enjoy having a gripe. I am not a joiner of committee's or clubs etc. I like the freedom of GOTW. If I bring down insults on myself I examine those insults with a view to becoming a better person. Will a login system stop you insulting me? or mikep bullying women posters?

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Boblet - 1-Feb-12 12:32 

What is your issue with having a login noblet? Why are you so against it?

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Freddie - 31-Jan-12 18:43 

Called in to Pachyderm House yesterday, but was disappointed. mikep, freddie or fredE where not in

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Boblet - 31-Jan-12 12:14 

Freddie - 30-Jan-12 18:03 
LOOK THE POLICE ARE UPTO NO GOOD - they make all these tv shows to gain support & show the public what a good job they are doing ,they take the p155 as a result of NO10 giving then too much power !
Get the public more involved & roll out body cameras & let's see if the continue taking the piss - And get rid of the IPCC and set up a new company made up of local people & let them review case of complaint .
I'm sure things will improve when they know their jobs will be on the line & maybe cover ups will be in the past .

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The troll hunter - 31-Jan-12 08:48 

Also, if people have to register with an email address, there is some measure of accountability - although I realise many will just make up email addresses for the purpose and not use an account in their own name.
Yet another example of mikeP answering himself, the sad part is he thinks that it is rhetoric.

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Boblet - 30-Jan-12 23:53 

"it looks like we have another instance of "troll poster". The post below wasn't by me. This is why we need the login system.
Freddie - 30-Jan-12 18:01 "

May I add my voice to this comment from Freddie?

This is going to continue to happen. Kenny we do need a login system. I appreciate it's extra work for you and you're busy, but I think it's important. Also, if people have to register with an email address, there is some measure of accountability - although I realise many will just make up email addresses for the purpose and not use an account in their own name.

If it drives people away who don't want to be accountable to that minor degree, then that is probably better for all concerned, it will keep the site free of those with a mental age of of 10 and below, scammers, spammers, and other time-wasters.

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MikeP - 30-Jan-12 19:14 

Corrupt wrote:-
"We must remember you & I pay their wages"

Don't you think they pay tax too! Maybe they pay their own wages.

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Freddie - 30-Jan-12 18:03 

MikeP.....it looks like we have another instance of "troll poster". The post below wasn't by me. This is why we need the login system.

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Freddie - 30-Jan-12 18:01 

ON THE NEWS TODAY - A POLICE OFFICER HAS BEEN TAKING IN FOR QUESTIONING ABOUT CASH PAYMENTS FROM SUN NEWS PAPER ????
So this would be another way for them to raise cash in these hard times , sell malicious stories !
IT'S ABOUT TIME WE AS THE PUBLIC HAVE MORE CONTROL OF THESE CORRUPT INDIVIDUALS

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Claim where's there is blame - 30-Jan-12 09:43 

It's called a rhetorical question, Freddie.

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MikeP - 30-Jan-12 09:18 

I would question which strata of society those of you posting this anti-police rhetoric are from. I think from your demonstrated level of literacy, it's quite obvious

Please tell, why are you questioning something that is quite obvious?

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Freddie - 30-Jan-12 01:08 

MIKE DA P.... P
No one fears the police with so much CCTV & camera phones people feel safe - good example the Ian Tomlinson footage .
We must remember you & I pay their wages and we want them to be honest & do a good job , more community work , talking to young people and crossing those bridges first !
By going around mob handed - stop & searches with no reason , we'll that takes the pi55.
Just wait and see the Mark Duggan story will be out soon & I'm sure it was another messup !

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Corrupt - 29-Jan-12 23:02 

Can you be more specific Mikep? I do know a few bent coppers hence my low opinion of them. Do they count as lower strata? I do not fear anybody, least of all the police. I am law abiding to a fault. Your ridiculous claims, reference the likes of me can only do further damage to your already tarnished reputation on G.O.T.W. Is this what you want? If so you will never be comfortably at any level in British society or indeed Mrs Miggins Pie Shoppe.

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Boblet - 29-Jan-12 21:50 

In my experience, it is people from the lower strata of society, or those associated with them, who do not trust , or who fear, the police. Decent law-abiding people have no problem with the authorities.

I would question which strata of society those of you posting this anti-police rhetoric are from. I think from your demonstrated level of literacy, it's quite obvious.

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MikeP - 29-Jan-12 20:49 

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