There are alternatives to gelatin
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I am a vegetarian.  No, I'm not going to shove my opinion that being a vegetarian is great down your throats.  I am here to open peoples eyes to how difficult it is to find certain products that are vegetarian friendly.

I know what you're thinking, there are lots of alternatives out there for vegetarians that are easily available.  Sure, if you're talking about meat alternatives, that is true.  Well, I was prepared to give up meat when I became a vegetarian, that's kind of the idea.  I was not however, prepared for the sheer amount of confectionery and sweet foods in general, I would have to give up.

Sweets, probably containing gelatin

Confused?  Well, at first, I was too.  You see many foods require to be spongy or soft or gelatinous, such as marshmallows, or the little jelly cola bottles.  Well the ingredient used by most mainstream companies, is a product called gelatin (sometimes gelatiné).  It is a product made from boiling up bones, and skins and more uncommonly, hooves and horns.  The collagen seeps out from these materials and the water turns into gelatin.  Obviously there's more to it than that, but that is the basic idea.

Obviously this isn't acceptable to most vegetarians (and in some cases, some religions), and many unknowingly consume it.  It was just the other day I almost ate a chocolate mousse, only to realise that, this too, had pork gelatin in it.

Now, my main issue with this, is that there are many many alternatives to using gelatin.  To name a few: Agar-Agar, Biobin, Guar, Xanthan and Carob fruit.  These all have the same properties as gelatin, yet companies refuse to use these sources.  It wouldn't change the taste, most of them aren't hard to produce, and I'm sure they lose a rather large amount of customers because of it.


Further Information

Xanthan Gum
Some information on Wikipedia about Xanthan Gum and its uses in food as an alternative to gelatin.

Gelatine FAQ
A frequently asked questions (FAQ) from the International Vegetarian Union (IVU) site with information on the use of gelatine (gelatin) and alternatives.

Gelatine free sweets
Bagofsweets.com have a special selection of gelatine free sweets.

Vegetarian Cooking - Gelatin alternatives
Hundreds of vegetarian and vegan recipes to search within or browse. Spotlighted vegetarian and vegan foods, products, menus, and restaurants.


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Anona,
I know the idea of eating bugs is off putting, but if everybody was to think deep about the content of their food, everyone would starve. Nobody picks the bugs out of corn or wheat, and nobody pays it a thought, but it still has bug eggs in.
Get a bag of flour and tip it into a glass container, and leave it.Don't open it, and don't shake the contents up. After some time(a month or so) you will see little black bugs crawling around in it.
I know a man who works in a hard boiled sweet factory. Rotten fruits go in along with the good fruits.
Fish have to go through a uv light to show up the worms that they contain, and they only get picked out if noticed.(they look like mini polo's with a thin skin over them).
Who want's a fish finger butty ?(chunder) lol.
*Been there  16-Mar-2010 13:17

 
Been there,
I didn’t know about the safety aspect of using cochineal but I think even meat eaters would draw the line at eating crushed insects if they were aware of what E120 is. I have seen it as an ingredient in common products like Mr Kipling cakes and many sweets, even on a box of confectionery labelled “suitable for vegetarians” in a mail order catalogue.

Apart from cochineal and E120 it is also sometimes labelled as carminic acid or carmine so vegetarians need to look out for all of those.
*Anona  14-Mar-2010 18:31

 
Anona,
I owe you an apology, as it appears you are correct.
Although, in the paste form is banned, as the amount used can't be regulated.
It is less likely to cause anaphylactic shock in smaller regulated amounts, but is still possible, and in some people can be fatal as we know, which is a greater reason to avoid it.
The reason why it is still allowed to be used when there are less risky alternatives beats me.
I thought it was totally banned.
*Been there  04-Mar-2010 13:09

 
Been there, in Britain cochineal/E120 is still used in manufactured foods as a red or pink colouring . I don't know about other countries.
*Anona  03-Mar-2010 17:23

 
Anona,
The cochineal food colouring made from the female cochineal beetles was used in the past, but for many years now has been banned for use in food..Only the artificial colour is used which is E122 but now known as carmoisine and is suitable for vegetarians.The colour is more crimson(shocking pink) than red.
I work with food colour pastes in my business, so am up to date with the banning of food colours.
*Been there  01-Mar-2010 00:52

 
Apart from gelatine, vegetarians also need to be aware that many sweets and cakes contain the natural red food colouring cochineal, (often on food labels as E120 ) which is made from crushed insects!

(This is not a wind up!)
*Anona  28-Feb-2010 20:07

 
I too am a veggie and really miss marshmallows, BUT have just found a website selling veggie and vegan versions:- Scrumptious Sweets, also Sweetie World do a range of veggie sweets.

Enraged:- The world is in the state it is in because of people like you, narrow minded bigots only seeing the world through blinkers, and can't think for themselves. Before you judge someone spend a day in their shoes!
*Marmitekid  28-Feb-2010 19:51

 
Thanks this has been helpful, as I am a young veggie I didnt really know about gelatin subs so thanks :)
*Hollie  21-Feb-2010 16:37

 
Enraged: You're a tw*t. If someone chooses not to eat meat then that's their choice, not yours! And what's with the question mark after "it makes you sick", please explain? How is it not completely obvious? Have you SEEN "kill it, cook it, eat it", or any similar programmes? It's DISGUSTING, and while I do not try to force people to become a vegetarian, I think it's highly SELFISH to eat meat. People like you make me sick, so shut the f*ck up, you PATHETIC excuse for a human being. Thank you.
*alysia  29-Jan-2010 18:08

 
im sure that if a new VEGEGTARIAN compay manufactured vegetarian sweets, foods, and gelatine, im a veggie and its very hard to find suitable sweets, anyone that kills animals and eats them is out of their mind, VEGGYS rule
*moz  15-Jan-2010 01:30

 
rori what the hell :/ seriusly how is it selfish or stupid?

we chose not to eat defensless animals whu have to die for SELFISH! human consumption!!
animals are slaughtered in the most groosom ways imaginable.

shows we have hearts unlike some :/
*veggieJamie  22-Dec-2009 18:32

 
Enraged

Please explain how being a vegetarian is stupid and selfish?
*Barbie 231  07-Nov-2009 14:11


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