Sentence should fit the crime

No I don't think it does, there have been some terrible murders committed recently, where I live in Wallington Surrey in recent years they have been at least three murders, and a man has just been sentenced for killing a man at a bus stop in Croydon and only got 15 years it is a disgrace, life should mean life, these sentances send out the wrong message I think. We know that the justice system when dealing with such cases have to consider the person who did the crime human right's but what about the human rights of the victim where does the justice system draw the line. This article is spot on I think, I never came from a posh area Bethnal Green in East London was my manor, but we were taught right from wrong and brought up to respect others in society, I think that to many excuses are used today regarding criminals and the reason they commit crimes like this article says, loop holes are everywhere and many people get away with their crimes against others. I think the justice system is out of date and needs many reforms.

I noticed long ago that in many news reports they will state : "The attackers were white men in their 20's." Do they ever say "They were black men in their 20's."? They also say things like : "Olesubyo Iamascamma Woginoggo, a Nigerian born British subject." If he's Nigerian born, Nigerian parents, he's Nigerian.

You are perfectly right, Tony. Practically every violent incident reported in the news has been perpetrated by an offender with an obviously foreign name. The problem is that no-one in authority will come out and admit it for fear of being labelled racist.

I personally believe the majority of serious crimes in this country are carried out by foreigners.

A "dangerous sexual predator" has been jailed for 12 years for the "cruel and degrading" rape of a teenager and several assaults in Aberdeen.

Ekene Anoliefo - the son of a Nigerian politician - was found guilty.

Lord Pentland said: "You are, in my judgement, a dangerous and determined sexual predator who has not the slightest respect for women."

Anoliefo listened through an interpreter as defence QC Donald MacLeod told how he had brought shame on his wealthy family.

His father is a politician in his local state parliament, the court heard, and had paid for Anoliefo to come to Scotland to study computer technology to prepare him for a career in the Nigerian oil industry.

Mr MacLeod also told the court that Anoliefo still maintained he was innocent although a jury had found him guilty.

Lord Pentland said: "You stand convicted of a series of incidents involving the assault, molestation and harassment of six separate women and a female child in the streets of Aberdeen over a period extending from the autumn of 2007 to the summer of 2008.

"In addition to these serious offences, you have been convicted of the cruel and degrading rape of a young woman whom you detained against her will in your car after you had pretended to help her late at night.

"The sentence I impose must reflect the abhorrence that society feels towards persons like you who prey on women in this way and who are willing to resort to violence and rape for their own sexual gratification."

Deportation order

He added: "I note that you have not, at any stage, expressed the slightest degree of remorse or empathy for your victims."

"The witnesses in this case behaved with great courage after being traumatised by these crimes.

"They will take comfort from the fact that he will be deported at the end of his sentence."

I agree Jonny. The Americans don't mess about and I believe the East coast is more harsh than the West.

When George Bush was Governor of Texas he signed over 180 death warrants and I do believe they still have death by firing squad in one state.

Roll em Warden.

It was a terrible act committed upon this girl by arrant scum. What I find most annoying is that we, tax payers, will be paying for his food and drink for the next twenty years, if he lives that long. All is required is a length of rope and a short sharp drop. What a massive saving this would be.

A 33-year-old man beat his girlfriend to death on the night of her birthday because she "dented his pride", a court has been told.

Zahir Ahmed, of Selbourne Road, Luton, Bedfordshire, denies murdering Klara Prokopcova, 26, in November 2007.

Mr Ahmed assaulted Miss Prokopcova in taxis and various locations before finally calling for medical attention, Luton Crown Court heard.

Miranda Moore QC, prosecuting, said Mr Ahmed regularly beat his girlfriend.

At the opening of his trial, the court heard the enthusiastic bodybuilder, known as Ziggy, often left her battered and bruised with clumps of hair missing.

'Concerted attack'

On the night of her 26th birthday on 11 November 2007, they spent the evening in a nightclub in Dunstable, Bedfordshire, but Miss Prokopcova upset him by leaving.

Ms Moore said: "In the early hours of 11 November, technically the day after her birthday, following a row at Cubes nightclub in Dunstable this defendant, having had his pride dented by the behaviour of his girlfriend Klara, began a concerted attack on her.

"He beat her very badly, both in a taxi leaving the nightclub and in a variety of locations, specifically chosen to avoid CCTV.

"Having beaten her into unconsciousness, he then tried to cover up his actions.

My Gripe of the week is about the Dismal laws in my own country - Scotland.

We have had a lot of killers set free because of this Double Jeopardy verdict known as "Not Proven" who incidentally go on to kill or perhaps commit the crime again.

To add insult to Injury we also have a reduced Murder charge called culpable Homoside which after a plea bargain lets the killers go to Jail for 7-10 years, to which they are out of their holiday camps after about 4 or 5 years to poison our society even more.

There was a few cases where I read in Local Newspaper that two killers who stabbed a Man just for fun got 8 years each for this stupid plea bargain, and here's me thinking that Taking another persons life out of cold blood was pure Murder, what sort of message does this create?? That it's ok to murder people for fun, as you go to jail nowadays you are guaranteed to be watching your SKY TV, playing the latest games console, or getting a make-over ALL AT OUR EXPENSE I may add.

It is time these places adopted the same attitude to America to crime, that if you take another persons life you will be locked up for the rest of your life, now that is the correct message to send out.

To the original griper - Wizard69 - I can only say that I wholeheartedly agree with your feelings on this issue. These appaling failures of the law will only lead to vigilante justice and yet more crime. As a police officer I'm sure you find it extremely frustrating.

Doesent this person realise that the law is abuseness and theirs no money from muggers ect only decent citizens who now have so many laws used against them becouse theirs money in it.

Iv'e just watched an old crime uk program and out of four drunks who were caught fighting or
drink related crime . all four was cautioned from the police station . what a joke
we need to be more harder with these thugs and nobs of britain .breaking the law in any way
should lead to something .not just a slap on the wrist .no wonder they do It . fines don't scare
people anymore . bring In the guardia they don't f--k about with louts .
police are to soft here they need to be tougher . !

I was caught once smoking downstairs on a bus and they sent me down for a year
lucky I didn't get dealt with at crown court .they might have hung me out to dry
should have got a longer sentence for what I did I was wrong to do that
but on the other hand getting something like 4 months for stealing a car and running someone
over .Is that the right way .we need stiffer sentences and more jails / borstals/ youth centre's
america has the right Idea look at the sentences over there OUCH !

Hey Hoodie Boy
You are so full of shxx, you need to be locked up for 10 years, it is people like you that give this country a bad name, if I saw you in the street, I would cave your head in.
You have nothing better to do than intimidate people and ride motorcyles up and down the road and steal cars, you are nothing but a low life, your parents didn't bring you up properly, they are as bad as you. I can just imagine what your mother would say if the police arrived at your door, she would say "My son wouldn't do a thing like that" I bet you don't even have a father?
Go and get a job instead of hanging around the streets at night.
You think you are a big man because you have a big mouth, but you are not, you make yourself look ignorant and stupid.