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Comic Relief and televised charity events a rip off?

First of all, let me say that Im not a bah humbug kind of guy and would like to think that I am just as charitable (if not more so) than the next guy.  I always buy into all the Comic Relief and Children in need stuff as its just been the normal thing to do ever since I was a child.  I would guess that the same is true for a lot of people out there.

But when I look around and even do some research on the Internet, I still see lots of the kind of things we have been paying to put a stop to for about the last 20 years now.  And not only that, I have never seen one thing to suggest that the money is really being spent in the way we are told.

So where are all these kids that we have allegedly helped?  In Africa?  Although it is conveniently very far away I don't think for one minute that tiny bore hole in the ground costs 10 million a year to maintain!  I see all this money being collected but have no idea where it is actually being spent, because it certainly isnt anywhere near me.  If I could just see a bit more evidence of the good being done then perhaps I would not be so suspicious.

A clown face, red nose day, Comic Relief Comic Relief... So where is the other 30p going to?

Now theres another thing that makes me feel a bit uneasy about this situation.  The television and radio companies (BBC radio is the worst) charge you £1 if you send a text to them, with 70p of this money going to Comic Relief.  Err excuse me, so where is the other 30p going to?

I'm pretty good at arithmetic (taps away on the calculator) and I reckon that 30% of all the money from these texts must add up quite a pretty penny.  Why should we be asked to give generously when there are companies out there using these events to make a hefty profit? Surely they can do it at a reduced rate for Comic Relief?  Why can't a larger portion or even better all of the money go to the people who REALLY need it?  Oh no, of course not because its not the big companies that stick their hands in their pockets; thats a job for us - the "paying" public.

I really do think that by simply doing the easy thing and giving to Comic Relief just to ease your conscience is actually taking money away from the real charities that could use our help.  Does anyone else agree?

By: Jimmy Wyld

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I totally agree whit you man and not to mention the celebrities that get paid for doing the show why cant the work one night a year for free and even better donate some of there money to charities like normal people do but no they feel there pockets whit money that suppose to go to charities

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jo - 7-May-14 21:40

Its the tip of the iceberg. All charities are the same. For every £ given you will find that the charity pays for:- wages (Taxed), goods (Taxed), Storage(taxed), shipping (Taxed) bribes (not taxed but then tax is a sort of bribe), local manpower and greasing palms (not taxed), paying warring factions (both food and money) and then finally 1p arrives with those who need it.

What is really concerning is charities admit to giving bribes to local military forces both in terms of food, money and equipment, to allow them to get to the needy. Therefore you are funding wars in impoverished countries. Donations are big business and provide for illegal activities. Very little gets to those who need it.

A large charity admitted that it shipped 10 landrovers to Africa to help with aid and 9 were handed over to the local fighters so they could use them as military vehicles.

The answer stop giving to all charities. This will collapse the organisations and will eventually lead to wars ending because they won't be able to fund them locally.

You donate, you kill innocent people whether you like it or not, whether you believe it or not.

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witsend - 10-Dec-13 12:59

Yes, I agree 100% with your comments. I am the chairman of trustees of a charity which set up and runs a school in Zambia for disadvantaged children (Italafoundation.com) We saw that what we did fulfilled the requirements for international grant aid from Comic Relief so we went ahead and put in an application. It was refused, so I phoned them. No-one was able to give me any reason for not making us a grant and they got quite shirty when I asked what, exactly, I would have to do to get funding from them. I suspect that if you are a mate of a celebrity and have a prestigious, high profile project then you might stand a chance. I mix with many other similar groups who are doing charitable work in Africa and none of them have ever got money from Comic Relief. What is annoying is that £93 million of charitable giving has now been taken out of circulation.

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Tony - 10-May-13 13:19

Yes but also if all of the presenters/bands involved gave lets say about £500,000 out of their HUGE salary instead of just going on about what a great cause it is - you are STONKING rich why don't you donate lots????

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Teenager - 14-Apr-13 08:05

I have been living in Africa for the last 15 years and have not seen any significant signs of any help given. The polititions and drug companies are probably the only ones who really benifit from this aid. Strangely enough you never hear about red nose day or the money that's supposed to be helping the African communities, not in the papers or tv. Surley something as big as red nose day would get some mention, I only know of it because I am British. Why is it that if comic relief has poured so much (over 200m) into Africa that things are still the same or even worse in some areas, it doesn't take much to set up a bore hole or to educacate the locals in taking care of the water and themselves. After all these years of "charity" there would be some positive change and that Britain would at least get one mention for its contribution. So where has all the money gone? Is comic relief just another channel for money laundering at the cost of people who genuinly care as with some other charities. I think we should look deeper into this issue and demand more transparancy before we coff up our hard earnt money. There is some improvement in western education although very little and that is supplied by the local and national governments although this is causing more problems as more people are leaving thier villages to seek work in larger towns and cities only to find there is no employment. Ultimatly this leads to more crime and violence and hard drug selling. If we really want to help we need to come up with a new solution, what do you think?

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fruitman - 1-Apr-13 20:16

Once again its comic relief but where has all the money gone?! the bbc make this program begging us for money and we want to help can they show us where it goes. Why don't they make a programme showing us where the money has gone.

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Lu - 24-Mar-13 14:53

Yes it is.
Yes it is.
Yes it is.
Yes it is.

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Oi - 22-Mar-13 18:34

3 cheers for Mike Oxlong, count me on your side. So here we are, post Comic Relief, and yes, yet another record amount of cash raised. When times were really hard back in the 1970s recession and in the 1930s Great Depression, giving to charity fell, that's right, it fell. So what's all this tosh nowadays about bad times, recession, double dip. Take note chancellor, if the man in the street has enough spare cash to raise another record amount, you're not hurting them enough with taxes. So feel free to raise taxes and get us out of this damned economic depression.

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obiliveson - 21-Mar-13 15:14

I was wondering when someone comes on stage and says the government has said they will match what ever we have raised so far (being the lovely government they are!) am i donating twice ?where does that money come from ?

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nicky - 21-Mar-13 12:28

Mike Oxlong and a-no-brainer. Agree with you completely 100%

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MBO - 18-Mar-13 18:19

I AM a bah humbug type person.
I have never given to Comic Relief or Children in need or watched a second of either telethons.
I do however give to the charities of my choice when I choose to do so.
I hate being told to take part in something. Forced Charity is like forced jollity for me fake and not appreciated.

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Mike Oxlong - 18-Mar-13 17:27

i bet those celebrities live in tax havens
scum

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immenstrides - 18-Mar-13 13:58

you can be sure that if a celebrity made a big donation, they would make a bigger song and dance about it because they are vain narcissists (if they werent, they wouldnt be in that job!)
so if you dont hear anything of the sort, they will only donate their time (cheapskates) and claim their expenses (extortionist thieves)
its a licence to print money and the public are fooled by it but more shame on the bbc because they portray it in a moral light

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a no-brainer - 18-Mar-13 13:55

Justic294; the thing is we don't really know how much money celebrities give to charities, they don't publicise it. Some of them may give quite a lot - we wouldn't know.

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grumpyoldwoman - 18-Mar-13 11:21

Many so-called charities are little short of a con. Look at Cancer Research - there have been natural, effective remedies for cancer for years (search online) and yet big pharma doesn't want us in on it because they profit hugely from manufacturing drugs. If effective research was given over to cancer it would no longer be a major cause of suffering and death. Other charities use high proportions of their income for administration, and some employ street promoters who get up to £9 per hour + bonuses for those they sign up on monthly direct debit.

As for Comic Relief, where is the actual 'relief' felt and how much donated money actually reaches the target people? I never give to charities except for local, under-funded animal welfare institutions that do a great job with minimal proceeds.

Am sick of celebrity culture and self-promoting prima donnas, many of whom are hypocrites. Maybe an intermediary body ought to handle charity proceeds and distribution - an organisation that can be trusted. Yes, tricky one that.

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Mia the Cat - 18-Mar-13 10:05

I totally agree, some of the worlds biggest celebrities get paid millions if not billions each year, on a normal show they would be paid a couple of thousand to show up but if its a charity event they supposably give up that money for the charity.
But I still don't get why if you have millions and millions of pounds, why can't they stick their hands in their pockets and give u a couple of million instead of a couple of thousand, why is that left to the average person who may only get 100,000 thousand a year. Thus should go towards paying bill and food for your family but then comic relief comes on the tv, you realise how good you have it and then you give some if your money.
So in conclusion celebs get millions a year and donate a couple of thousand which they can afford but could afford to give up a lot more, and the average family gives up ? Which they may not be able to afford.

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Justic294 - 17-Mar-13 19:08

I agree FUP the twerp has nothing original to say, but the freedom of this site is worth keeping for normal folk, do not fret. Dog shlt just disappears in the end.

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boblet - 16-Mar-13 23:00

I posted this in wrong gripe

It should have gone here http://www.weeklygripe.co.uk/a393.asp

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fup - 16-Mar-13 21:19

Most of Jobby's posts are direct quotes but they are neither in quotation marks nor attributed to the person who penned them. Being out of context they also sound like gibberish.


Today's "the God who created man must have had a sinister sense of humour, creating him a reasonable being, yet forcing him to take this ridiculous posture, and driving him with blind craving for this ridiculous performance." was said by D H Lawrence about sex.

Recent quotes have been by Michael Caine, Muhammad Ali and Dan Marino. The Michael Caine one was just used as means for Jason/ Leaving Soon to rant on again about the so called coldness of the English. A lot of the Jobby quotes are just a means of feeding the other side of the character information to start up again.

The quote below





The post of 10-Mar-13 10:04

"Are your kids learning the right lessons about colonisation? 100s of years after Queen victoria's henchmen murdered thousands of innocents on foreign soil, too many children have been spoon-fed the thin gruel of progressive political correctness over the stiff upper lip antidote of truth."

is a complete distortion of a piece by Michelle Malkin, which was about the dangers of ignoring Islamic Jihadism and originally said :

"Are your kids learning the right lessons about 9/11? Ten years after Osama bin Laden's henchmen murdered thousands of innocents on American soil, too many children have been spoon-fed the thin gruel of progressive political correctness over the stiff antidote of truth."

I don't know but I would have thought that could leave the site owners of the WG open to legal proceedings. Part of Malkin's career is paid public speaking and she is not going to want her words stolen and their meaning twisted.

More to the point regarding the WG is that it's so pointless and dreary as people spend time writing a post only to have it drowned in sludge of nonsense that takes only seconds as it has been lifted from any number of online sites and not thought out by the writer.

I agree with Friday Lunchtime that the site needs to be log in with email linked to username so that there is a degree of accountability here.

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FUP - 16-Mar-13 21:17

The sheep that donated pat yourselves on the back you just willingly paid taxes and kept africa in poverty! Hers a glass for next years rnd where we will see nothing has changed or come of the donated money! Its a sad thing! And all the goverments doings! But hey ho what can we do? Yes sir 3 bags of tax sir, and since when did celebs have anything to do with it? Of corse they will go on the show extra cash and to get noticed again hey why not? What shall we all moan about now sporty spice not wearing a sports bra?

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dd - 16-Mar-13 19:18

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