The CSA penalise good fathers
12-May-2008
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Once again, a gripe about the CSA! Why does a system that is supposed to be there to help our children penalise the good parents?

I am a mother of one who has recently got married to a father of two from a previous marriage.  He is an exceptional father who dotes on his children and provides for them over and above his requirements.  His children - aged 21 and 15 - stay at our house 2 nights a week and every other weekend as a MINIMUM.

We also look after them when their mother goes on holiday - at least 3 times a year.  When we take a holiday, we take them on holiday as well and also have them on lots of other occasions.  He provides them with clothes, money and, more importantly, lots of love.  My husband has always paid maintenance for his children, but decided to question this last year due to the shared care and the fact that he had also taken on my son to look after.

A kid looking up at his mum

According to the CSA, £1400 is still outstanding...

The CSA found him in favour and granted him a nil assessment in October 2005.  In April 2006, we received a letter from the CSA to state that they had re-assessed the situation (due to his ex-wife contesting it) and had decided that he must pay £38 per week.  We had received no correspondence since the October so this was a complete shock, especially as it was more than he was paying previously! This was then backdated to the previous year to give us an outstanding balance of £1400!

We have since contested this decision ourselves and the assessment has gone back to nil, but the £1400 is still outstanding according to the CSA.  We have been to court, our local MP, etc for advice, but this money is considered as a DEBT.

How can this be a debt if he should not have had to pay it in the first place?  My husband has now got a liability order against him and we are at our wits end.  To add insult to injury, I applied to the CSA 5 years ago for my son and have not got one penny from his father.  I am now owed nearly £22000!  They now claim they cannot trace him - at least the 5th time this has happened, despite him being self employed and having recently got married.

I ask you, where is the justice in all this?  We are a loving family who take care of all our children to give them a happy home life, but our children are now suffering because of the appalling systems in the CSA.

If we have to pay the £1400 -which I am sure we will, then that is a holiday with the kids eliminated from next year.  I struggled to bring up my 5 year old on my own for 3 years and I am now going to be struggling again.  It seems that the CSA spend all their energy chasing the "good dads" whilst the ones who do anything to avoid payments are getting away scot-free.


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Sadly CSA maladministrations, delays and errors to both PWC & NRP are causing untold problems.

Come and join us, take a look at http://afairercsaforall.myfanforum.org - your not on your own.
*chall  12-May-2008 10:26

 
So Latest news on my crap with the CSA = My ex wife is disgusted with the CSA and what they are doing so we have come to an agreement ! yes she will accept £200 a month out of my £950 Yes there is a god who helps those who needs it........................................ But the F*****G CSA have ignored her request and still taken £450 out of my wages direct so i'm left with £300 to live of pay bill's and the CSA have said well nothing we can do but we will issue you a refund when we can ! ..... ..... SO ... ....As i've been informed by the CSA while this was all going on that if I dont pay (and its the law) they have the rights to send in bailiffs to take goods to the value of my debt for auction. Now If the CSA owe ME Money (because its the LAW) then I am also entitled to use the LAW and if they dont pay me my cash back I to can send in a Bailiff !
*boon  07-May-2008 18:06

 
Not all single mums are on benefits, so thats a bit of a blind statement. And if they are ,any money absent fathers pay is taken off the benefits thus reducing the amount the taxpayer has to pay, ie me. So yeah,as I pay roughly GBP 20 a day in tax, I do think GBP15 a week is feeble.
*Digsy  03-May-2008 18:45

 
yes £15 per week but how many other benefits was the lady receiving !! Take Take Take get a job girl!!
*Crewegirl  03-May-2008 18:01

 
Hang on a mo. Your previous payment worked out at GBP15 a week! What planet are you on? You is a spoilt brat you is!
*Digsy  29-Apr-2008 18:09

 
I today received a letter stating CSA will be now taking 8 times the amount of money I've been paying for the last year & that I have arrears of over £6,000.00 (which has got to be paid within the next two years) I phoned and for once got someone who wasn't rude and dismissive. There is nothing that can be done so now I will be on the poverty line. Why is it that the people who pay get all the penalties whilst errant mothers/fathers get away with paying nothing. The CSA have been given names and addresses in the past but have been unable to trace the people in question! Why are the Government penalising the mothers/fathers who are paying? We deserve better.
*huggy  29-Apr-2008 17:38

 
I have just quit my job because the CSA have taken over 300 pounds out of my wages last week because they have calculated that I can live on 224.93 per week and that because of my arreas they can take the rest. Ive now had my house repossed and am living in my girlfriends parents until we can get save enough money for a deposit to rent. Why is it that they have the god given rights to make you bankrupt, homeless and take ALL the money you have worked hard for. They cannot and will not be reasonable with the repayments and it makes me wanna scream. Oh and another thing I didnt even have a choice if I paid or my boss, its taken straight from wages.
*spike  25-Apr-2008 14:52

 
well I've had a f******g gut full of the csa they are now taking 40% of my wage direct from my employer, I'm told I owe them now over £2500 arrears because its taken them 8 months to work out my payments. They refuse to answer my questions like why does the csa web site say 2 kids = 25% of income yet they want 40% why did it take me under 5 mins to use the calculator on the csa web site to work out what has taken them 8 months AND why is it the calculator on the CSA web site works my payments out almost £60 less then they have ?

the out come from it is simple I cant afford my debts, I cant afford to live in the caravan I'm in, I will have to sell my car and loose my job. Or do I just say f**k it and top myself because I cant live like they want me to.
*boon  24-Apr-2008 17:56

 
Hi Crewegirl yeah its good to let of steam cause no one seems to want to listen do they when it comes to the csa apart from the people who is being treated like s--t all they seem to want to do is take take take. my hubby ex has never done a day works in her life the son is 14 nearly they live with her parents so there nothing stopping her getting a full time job but why should she she getting every thing handed to her on a plate. arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh lol gets you so mad dont it, having to pay out nearly 450.00 and she wont let him see his son its so wrong
*wakey lass  22-Apr-2008 03:34

 
I am so glad to have found a site I can have a good gripe. My husband was married before and has 4 children. When he left his wife he paid maintainance throught the CSA, that was over 12 years ago. We married in 1999. The children are now all over 19 with the exception of 1 who is 16. We currently pay £690 to the CSA for 1 child. My husband is a lecturer at the local university so not a millionaire. We cannnot afford to help out the other kids who are at university, How can this be fair. We have written to our local MP John Denham who told us that there is a 2 tier system and we are on the worst one. Many thanks John. Sorry if I'm rambling it just make me so mad. Every time we contact the CSA to tell them that another child has passed 19 they up the money. The mother Mother doesnt work why should she, she has her council house paid for plus an array of other benefits . I would love £690 disposable income . Rant over Thanks for listening
*Crewegirl  21-Apr-2008 18:25

 
Hi Huddle
No it dont seem fair does it we are having the same problem and we are at our wits end on what to do about it to, whether to give his job up and get in more debts or just pay the csa 450.00 which the ex dont get cause she on benifts and still be in debts. So where does it all end we can understand why theres a lot doing them self in and packing there jobs in
*wakey lass  15-Apr-2008 12:52

 
I just cant work the csa out last november they sent me £78 I had overpayed at that time I was paying £54 per week for my wee boy of ten then In march I got a letter saying I was £4500 in arrears and my payments were going up to 89.27 and 30 pounds for arrears which now means I have nearly £120 of my wages every week I just cant work out how they work this out I had to declare my self bankrupt last may due to break up of 2nd marriage Im finding really hard and even thinking about quit my job just dont know what to do any more when I ask aboutold and new scheme and said It was unfair I was told on phone thats the way it is and thats it can anyone pls advice me and how I can or how I cant work this out ive paid this for 6 years and dont mind paying as it my child unlike some that get away with it and always will many thanks for taking time to read this and hopefully we will all get things sorted one day
*huddle  15-Apr-2008 01:51


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