The CSA penalise good fathers

PS. I have written to Duncan Smith recently. Ihope he takes my points on board.

Well done Kickkboxer! All we want is to be listened to and for our thoughts to be taken on board We are the ones at the other end of the shambles known as CSA. It has no place whatsoever in our society id persecutes and criminalises the ones who pay and who are targetted repeatedly. Politicans are our elected reprsentatives and they should act upon our concerns. I want to provide finances for my children, but not be bullied by an authoritrian shambles, who act outside of the law. Access is an important issue also. My ex held my children hostage as she wanted everything her own way all of the time. I ceased contact because her antics were upsetting the children. So because of this stupid system she won hands down on finances and contact. A scandal!

I wrote to my m.p about the unfairness of the system and its draconian approach to nrp's. Believe it or not today I got a call from a government think tank related to the csa. my letter was forwarded to iain duncan smith who then told them to call me. Had a very interesting chat with a chap there(natrually I was wary about what I said) they have taken my ideas onboard and are forwarding them to policies committee. Maybe b--ger all in it but they said my ideas were reasonable.
A couple of suggestions I made were no access no money. It should be a criminal offence to deny access and maintenance worked out on basic and to take into account outgoings and debt inherited from divorce/seperation costs.
Just for information the system the csa use to calculate and collect maintenance was originally from the usa. the government took the system and adapted it to collect revenue despite the fact the yanks said it won't work....and it doesn't.

To Mr D. Your Freedom is a website that may interest you and you can give your opinion to the current Government. I'm with you the whole system of family life and welfare needs a root and branch reform. My ex holds one of my children hostage to act as some kind of cash machine to fund her lifestyle. I haven't seen him for 6 years even though I had a court order, The government could re-deploy staff into a new system that would create a link between contact and payments. Unfortunately politicians are cowards. They want to sc-ew people for money and don't give a f--k about the mess they leave behind. No wonder society is breaking down!

My ex met a new bloke and I was out. Now her and her partner are unemployed and living a pretty good life on my maintenance. I have often thought of quitting my job but I enjoy it too much.I know 100% my child only sees a fraction of what I pay. I would love custody of my kid, but while she is making so much from my maintenance she is going to fight tooth and nail against that. I try to have my kid as much as possible, this used to work well , but then my ex found out if I have the kid too many nights her maintenace might go down, so guess what, im only allowed once a week now.... Family law in the uK is a mess and needs an urgent review and the CSa may have a new name but they continue to cause the same hardship to decent fathers.

Rippedoffdad,
Sorry, but I didn't say you had a barking dog?????????????

Rippedoffdad,
If you do the math at the rate they expect it to be paid, it will most likely turn out that you couldn't pay what they say is owed. That has left them(CSA) in a dilemma. Your ex would have been given the choice to chase you for what is owed and if you don't pay...you do time. Her other option is to drop the excess and start from an agreeable amount from (a date). She is working and has a voice in what happens there. If she only cared for the welfare of your children alone, she would drop the past monies owed and keep contact between you and your children rather than give you a criminal record and let the children suffer.

I have one left in the system but the incompetent amateurs stitched me up with £6300 debt because of THEIR admin errors. If I have paid in for 35 years and I started work at 17=?. My ex works but under-declares her hours in order to keep her benefits. She has been sacked from one job for lying and reprmanded in another job after she was caught out telling lies on an application form. I am being ripped off hence my nickname. I don't have a barking dog!

Rippedoffdad,
You don't have to answer anything but how old is your eldest and youngest, and does your ex work, and your age if thats not too much.

Oh! and did I mention that I have paid into the tax system for 35 years that provides for benefits, and then I am asked to pay CSA to replace my ex's benefit claims. Looks to me as if I am paying into the system twice!

Been there.
Done all that Complaints channels, ICE, PHSO. I have been sent down so many blind alleys and at the end I have been fobbed off, because you are not allowed to challenge this totalitarian, communist regime. With regard to legal advice all thoses avenues are closed off too. The Politicians and the Judiciary are in it together. If any solicitor turned up in court and dared challenge the system, their feet wouldn't touch. they would ostracised from the legal community. I have tried the legal avenues and been told this. It may be possible to use a legal approach by seeking a judicial review and if you get past first base and hire big hitting lawyers like Mansell and Stephens, there may be a chance in the supreme court, but that would cost thousands. However, I have promised myself that if I ever hit the jackpot I would fund my case to let these people know that they are not above the law and they have no right to remove my Human rights and Civil liberties from me. I care about my kids, but they are my kids. they do not belong to any Politician, Government or Civil servant. Politicians electing board members to a run for profit company, with CCJ's against its name. Whats all that about? I have been at this for ten years so give me some credit. I paid £77,000 in divorce and to date £23,000 to CSA.. The CSA penalises good fathers as the headline states!

Rippedoffdad,
If it is a personal matter between your ex and children, why are you telling your story here?
Your story is an individual case, with a problem that has resulted because you and your ex couldn't resolve things, and further down the line(by the sound of it) because of the paper and pen pushers, not the government, politicians, csa......
If you feel you have been treated unjust then you need to take the correct route to sort it. Throwing a wobbler is going to get you no-where fast.
Seek legal advice. Take any letters you have to them and let them sort it and write a letter on your behalf. If after seeking legal advice you are told that you are in the wrong, then maybe you need to face facts. Scr*wing because your ex has it easier than you wont help or change matters.
There are plenty of stories from men that are looking after the children and getting no help from the mother,and mothers that don't get any help from the fathers no matter how hard they and the CSA try. It's not only the NR father that suffers.