People who complain about the police
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I am always infuriated by people who complain that "the police aren't doing anything" about some petty crime they have suffered.  As a policewoman and blogger, I read a great deal of online comment on this matter, some of which you can find me moaning about at pcbloggs.  The biggest gripe seems to be either that we take ages to complete an investigation or that we come to a conclusion they don't like.

As far as the police "not doing anything" goes, this is usually the cry of the victim who expects me to drop everything and become their own personal bobby.  They do not bother to check when I am on duty before claiming that I do not return their calls, they feel "betrayed" if I have any time off or am ill, and they are constantly outraged that I have been too busy to take their statement or pick up their CCTV.  Yet on the three days out of every twenty that I am actually working during a weekday between 6-8pm (the only time they will agree to be seen), I either make an unexpected arrest or I turn up and they are not in.  This means a delay of a further three weeks which is out of my control.

As for coming to a conclusion they don't like, just look at the press furore over Donna Appleyard, the woman who got an £80 ticket for swearing at kids.  Had the situation been the other way around, the kid would have sold the story that a woman terrified him in the street and no action was taken.  I have been given a tirade of abuse by a father who objected to the fact that my investigation proved that the fight in question was started by his son.  I have had complaints made that I have dropped charges against people for criminal damage when the only evidence was, "He must have done it".  People expect the police to conjure up foolproof evidence (the fool in question being the Magistrate) in cases where none exists.

On top of all of this, we are expected to walk all day along roads in shiny yellow jackets so the public can see us, for which we have received fifteen weeks' legal training.

Next time you are wondering why I didn't turn up to your burglary in time, I was walking along a road three miles away "Preventing Crime", just like you wanted.

By: PC Bloggs


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WhatDo They Know?.com I found this site .To Anka I believe u like it happen to this person comes to my door thrathens to kill me and my son Gwent co nice people.And the an Inspector ask me what do u want????? I wanted answer why they did not charge him even when few months later I gave video of this guy harresing mr they still defended him ask them if he is being protected because he is Welsh. even local independent poloce complaints did not want to answer. If I find any more sites I will put on here.They should put on there nice glossy leaflets U MAY COMPLAINT BUT WE PRETEND TO LOOH INTO IT WE WANT ANSWER U ALLEGATIONS AND ITS LEGAL
*The Maltes Falcon  28-Aug-2010 22:10

 
10. God bless you all and hope you never ever have to deal with police. Sometimes this experience is more traumatic than the criminals themselves, because you feel vulnerable all your life in this society with this justice system.
Should we not try to change things? Should we not start strikes against judicial system? How is it possible to still have members of parliament occupying their positions after stealing? And they didn’t steal because they were hungry, but greedy. How can it be possible for none to do anything about this? What is police doing? It’s like robbers stealing money from a bank and if caught, they say sorry, return the money and walk away with their life intact. If they are not caught, it’s fine. And the government is talking now benefit frauds. This is outrageous. What happened with rich people who stole. Or they have diplomatic immunity for stealing as well.
*anka8888  28-Aug-2010 12:36

 
9. Problem is that if we could take actions against the bad police officers, all of them would have been seen perfectly fine. But whilst bad police officers are so taboo, so untouchable, so almost impossible to complain about in an effective way, then we feel rejection towards the whole police staff. Because to bring bad cops to justice or to have actions against them without costing you a lot of money is so difficult for a usual, common human being, police become a danger to democracy, to justice, to correctness and to equality between people.
Police should work for all who pays taxes here, no matter if they are foreigners or British, as they are paid through the tax system from the budget.
Police should be accountable for their actions as much as any other public worker is, in any other job. It's a job, for god's sake, not a divine crown inherited based on superiority of race or whatever.
Police should be accessible to victims. I hardly could speak to the Police Officer in charge because the telephone was busy or she or later, she was out, because I was refused to have the officers programme when I could come and bring the evidence, because the police had no time for me at all, and I am telling you honestly, I wasn't pestering them.
I was almost numb with Depression and Post Traumatic Stress for many months, but despite the fact that my interest in collaborating with police was constant, my initiatives were more or less constant.
Hope one day, police will be readjusted to be a normal organisation with normal rules, with normal accountability and accessibility, with normal treatment.
*anka8888  28-Aug-2010 12:36

 
8. Who is more interested in bringing the evidence and the case forward, making as solid as possible, than the victim? Why on earth we need a crown prosecution service which is not collaborating with the victim in bringing the evidence forward if needed, but with the police and if police is corrupted or intentionally weakening the case, what can you do in this case.
Any victim should have the right to a free of charge independent solicitor to work with the police. A solicitor who can talk to the victim and who can have enough time to explain to her what is the system, how everything happens, why is this or that going on, to be able to make informed decisions, to be interested in bringing evidence forward, not to say, better have a coffee than take the statement from the hospital. Anyhow, generally police is crap, even though not all people working there are crap, but if you experience once something like I experienced, you'd never trust them all.
*anka8888  28-Aug-2010 12:35

 
7. What I've experienced is that don't know that criminals are the ones who can behave nicely and politely and diplomatically after they committed the crime, because they have to. Victims after shock are full of rage, full of frustration, full of pain and anger. They will look more aggressive than the aggressor, because of the pain, betrayal they felt and many other mixed feelings. A victim has no reason to speak to a police officer by the book, keeping calm and choosing wisely the words. Many victims, like me, are late diagnosed with post traumatic stress disorder and they hardly can cope with the attack or the past and they can't remember everything accurately in most cases. The initial statement is with flaws initially because it's hard to remember. The brain is getting numb and shuts down all memories to protect you from further suffering, to heal, if the shock is immense. Any sharp voice, any comment, any accusation or anything which can revive your feeling of injustice will irritate a victim and will possibly cause her to be abrupt, direct or even shouting at a police officer. I didn't shout, but I wasn't diplomatic at all. I was full of fury and anger and he looked calm and so elegant and so polite that made me sick.
Did you know that all the correspondence between you, the victim and the police officer in charge with your case is going to be seen by the defendant barrister. I found out at thecrown court trial. So never reveal your address there. Open a royal mail box or have some friends address handy to use.
I couldn't find online any information on how to complain about police lack of professionalism, how to have the trial appealed against. Is a trial which was incompetently or deliberately not substantiated well possible to be started all over again, if the prosecution side worked unprofessionally?
*anka8888  28-Aug-2010 12:32

 
6. Sorry for keep writing, but I am extremely frustrated. I feel the need to say everything for others to know.
Any information regarding of moving a case from a police station to another one is welcomed, as I couldn't find any information online about his matter.
Be aware that any complaint against police staff is recorded and any police officer will see the previous ones notes about you, internal communications, which will cause you problems further on, as well. They will say they are helpful, but they work in a heard, called teamwork. And if you complaint about one of them, you actually complaint about the whole police force. And they are all against you.
Police is not medically trained to face people who went through traumas, at least this is my assumption due to my experience. Could you please let me know if they are or not medically trained for dealing with shocked people or any victims of abuse?
*anka8888  28-Aug-2010 12:28

 
5. And, for women abused, be careful where and which refuge you go to, as some charities are laundering money for these mobs, which now are not working like in the past with scars on their face to identify the crooks. These mobs are now spread like a spider net, in all the system. These mobs have solicitors, family doctors, refuge key-workers and others to protect their networks and money making engines. How do you think that thousands of chinese or japonese, people who easily could be identified by their look, are entering here illegal and still can sell movies in plain view?

Anyhow, world is not as safe as we think and all those movies with crimes can happen to any of us. I always thought it's just a movie. Now I know, if some humans could imagine them, they can become factual. I am now bleeding for each cut I see on a human being in a movie and I really avoid seeing them, as I know, this movie it may be reality in some obscure corner of the world or in this country.

Take care of yourself and hope you will never ever need british police.
*anka8888  28-Aug-2010 11:29

 
4. Be careful, always in the presence of police don't talk, no matter if it's for good or for worse, unless you have a witness. Call an interpreter if it's impossible, never rely on their words, especially if you are alone. If you are alone, they will tell you whatever you won't believe to reach their goals. I am outraged by the fact that I had to complain, to change a police officer in charge with my case in order for it to go to the crown prosecution service, and after this to see how my case, actually crown prosecution service's case against my perpetrator was melted, diluted, made inconsistent by the police. My perpetrator was found not guilty of an assault which will affect all my life because of his connections in the police forces. My friends who could come and say that he beat me up before, were never invited to the trial, my documents and evidence was refused on the reason that they have enough evidence, the nurse and doctor's statement from the hospital I was treated was never taken as promised, my medical records were not accessed, I was wrongly advised to go home after my deposition that if jury will see me staying, they will consider I am revengeful, and more to add.
*anka8888  28-Aug-2010 11:28

 
I believed in british police and I was all my life honest and trying my best to do good things. Now, I know that this country is the haven for criminals, not because foreigners are coming in, but because of the police and this system of discouraging people to stand for their rights or for the justice deserved, because of the system who facilitate criminals to thrive, no matter if they are british, like my ex-partner, or foreigners, like me. If asked about my opinion regarding police, now I'll answer police is an institution who delivers protection and justice to whoever they choose to, if they choose to, (on different reasons, more or less clean) and to whoever knows better how to flatter their egos or to stimulate their interest.
I am outraged of the way they behaved with me, especially that I was mainly alone in this ordeal.
*anka8888  28-Aug-2010 11:27

 
Police is corrupt in this country as much as it is in any third world country. Victims are not always safe, criminals are walking away unpunished, because the victim hasn't got the right to have her own solicitor free of charge as the criminal has, because the police prefers to scare the victim to come forward either because police are too lazy to bother, either because they do not like the victim's accent or behaviour, either because police is corrupted, and so on. The victim depends on police staff moods and if you know how to polish their shoes, how to flatter them, you have a case, if not, they teach you a lesson about who is in charge here. And in this country police and the criminals are in charge, not you, the public or the victim. If police wants, can chase you, can write down about you, as a victim that you refuse to cooperate, they can do whatever they want.
And we are paying their jobs to protect and deliver justice to us, the usual people, not to have some arrogant people showing off that they are gods on earth and you, the victim, are just a tool at their discretion.
*anka8888  28-Aug-2010 11:27

 
I am a victim of crime. My ex-partner cut my face with a knife after beating me up in a horrible way. Instead of chasing him, police started chasing me for his computing games he accused me of stealing from him when I ran away from home. After I ran away, I slept in car, in storage place, at friends and people unknown before, as friends were terrified by the prospect of him coming at their doorstep, I stayed in refuge for five months and more to add. Firstly, my perpetrator's accusations were stupid, secondly it was a civil matter, I and my partner lived together for almost a decade and police should not get involved in such situations, and thirdly, I was innocent. I went there back with police escort from another station to take back from him my belongings, which are still not entirely returned by my perpetrator to me up to date. Police didn't bother to do anything for the case against him. I found out afterwards that my partner had some business with that police station and this was the reason we always rented a flat in that borough, that area. He is involved with some illegal trafficking people, and more to say.
*anka88888  28-Aug-2010 11:26

 
They should be more sites like this and everyone telling their story when u make a poloce complaint and expose to the public how the only reason they are there for to protect the polocewe seen it on g20 and when u complain than about a officer than even years latter they spreads rumours u are the liar like they done to me even wrote a letter to race equility to repeat with lies Don they realise that by protect this people they are tarnishing the whole force 'I was locked up because this person came to my door shouting abuse at me and because I told to piss off I gets arrested. they had the lied about what happen at the door , they did not ask what this people were doing at my door , it cost me money to defend my case The case was descharaged I reapeted Inadequate poloce investigation. As u all know some solicitors all they after easy money the fist one I went oh yes u win the case come back a few days before the trial than he changes his story he did not want to provide my evidence or to speak on my own behalf the best thing I done I sacked him oh yes leave it to the last moment. so u cant have a chance to go to a other solicitor which I only had a few days to find a decent solicitor who knows maybe they owed favours loose this one????
*Never give up  24-Aug-2010 08:00


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