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I'm going to outline some reasons why I don't trust the police and why I believe they are ineffective.  I have never been in trouble with the police until recently and I am in general a law abiding person.  But when I came to university however, the police were suddenly very much involved with my life - and not for the good.

My first encounter involved me being beaten about the head several times by a guy who was kicking off because he had split up with his girl friend.  I called the police who arrived long after it was all over.  They failed report the incident properly and didn't find the guy, even though it was a Friday night and there ideally ought to have been a police presence in the city centre.

Then a few months later I was extremely drunk on a night out and was arrested for 'public nuisance'.  I was also FALSELY accused of hitting someone - wrong place, wrong time I think!  During my night in the cells I admit that I was being loud, banging on the cell door etc. and generally making a fool out of myself (I was very drunk).  That did not excuse what happened next.  The officers had obviously decided they wanted to shut me up.  They barged into my cell and wrestled me to the floor banging my head on the way, putting my left arm so far up my back they dislocated my shoulder.  He then slapped my head and told me to shut up.

I was left in shock and fearing I they would come in again and I didn't sleep all night.  The next day after I got out and lodged a complaint and asked for custody reports.  On here the police had changed several details about the events that took place stating I was aggressive and had 'lashed out' when they tried to give me a blanket (which they never did).

As my complaint progressed I became aware I was getting a lot of parking tickets, while cars on the same road were not getting any.  It seemed I was seeing police everywhere.  Then my car was broken into by someone who did not take anything just smashed the window and left the car stereo which they could have easily taken.  The car was then towed as the police said they could not find me to tell me it had been broken into, another 110 to get it out.  I had the window repaired the next day and while it was being done a police officer called who was not the one handling the case.  He asked about the state of the car and I told him it had been repaired.

A police jacket That night at 6.30pm the car was broken into again, nothing taken of course and the car was parked right outside my house!  What criminal would do the same car twice and risk doing it a 6.30 in the evening!?  I called the police who turned up 15 minutes later. No one was caught.  By this time I suspected the police but continued with my claim anyway.  A week later the police turned up at my door and I thought they may have found the criminals who broke into my car.  But no, they told me I was under arrest for burglary!

I have never EVER had anything to do with something like that.  They said my DNA (taken as due to my caution) had been found at the scene of a theft of some SWEETS from a cafe.  Yes they kept me in a cell for 4 hours to question me over the theft of some confectionery.  Guess who was the custody sergeant while I was being held? The guy I was lodging the complaint against and again I was somewhat nervous as I sat there for four hours.

After this experience I dropped my complaint deciding it was not worth all the hassle.  My last encounter with the police has just reinforced my feelings about them.  I was at home revising for an exam on a Saturday night.  My house mates had gone to the pub and left the front door open.  Next I know a random guy walks into my room!  He was obviously looking for valuables left by unsuspecting students.  When I challenged him he mumbled some excuse and ran out the door.  Again I called the police who turned up THIRTY MINUTES LATER and of course caught no one.

I don't want be my own personal bobby.  I would just like the police to act with some semblance of professionalism and actually catch some real thieves instead of intimidating me.  The lack of professionalism and bullying tactics I have seen being used by police makes me worry every time I hear they are being given more powers.  Powers such as taking DNA samples without our permission, or to make an arrest when they SUSPECT a terrorist.

Before we have a choice in the matter, they are being given even more powers to "fight crime".  We should remember who we are giving these powers to - not only the good natured trustworthy police, but also the bad cops who may use these powers to intimidate innocent members of the public.

By: Peter


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Bulldog

And thanks to a certain Mr I Khan I secured compensation !
Ohhh I didn't need the money but they learnt a good lesson from me I've got deep pockets and bigger & better lawyers then the CPS !
29th Sep 14 02:09

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Bulldog

Samson (Delilah's too busy to post) - 26-Aug-14 13:31
Hi buddy , well I don't like the police because 1 .they tried fitting me up just because they didn't like the colour of my skin !
It's cost me my health & £££ in lawyers fees - only to prove them wrong from a simple piece of CCTV that I had requested from the start !
Hey and guess what there was no crime on the day - just some malicious officer making up lies ! Thanks to God for CCTV ...
And the CPS another bunch of twats ...
Don't complain to the IPCC they employ police officers to review cases "CROOKS "
29th Sep 14 02:09

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Samson (Delilah's too busy to post)

I'm afraid that would be the unattainable utopia Boblet.
I don't think any of us want the lowlifes flourishing. I believe that the first step in this is communication. If the general public inform the police and make a nuisance of themselves when doing it, they will have no option but to deal with things. At the moment it seems that the police fob people off too easily. It isn't until they see that people are determined to make them do their job or be accountable for not doing so that anything happens. That in itself is a disgrace but I do understand that their numbers are becoming more limited whilst their workload is increasing. They are having to prioritise matters. It just seems at times that their priorities are not atuned to those of the population they serve. We don't give a toss about speeding fines etc. We want society's scumbags dealt with so we feel safe on a daily basis. If only the Police could understand that rooting these people out and dealing with them would half all of the rest of their work!
Still, like I said, that's Utopia and probably isn't a realistic expectation in the 21st century.
28th Aug 14 10:08

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boblet

I do not think you can ensure or guarantee anything S&D I am just living in hope for a scenario where honest folk can flourish. You can film or photograph an honest person me or you anytime. In such a scenario the corrupt shrivel & disappear. A paedo used to run the Parks & Gardens department in the city that I come from. The school staff & parks police must have known & yet nothing was done to warn the kids. It will come out one day I am sure. I am also sure that they are still about, I just do not want them flourishing.
26th Aug 14 05:08

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Samson (Delilah's too busy to post)

Yes but those coppers that retire/move on will be replaced. How do you ensure that the new breed are any better than the old (not that I personally think they're too bad on the whole). If you inject one new person into an existing group they will adopt the ways of that group in order to fit in, regardless of the environment/job etc.
Body cameras etc. will help but as I've said before, if you look at the gripes on here, how many of them would have been averted by a camera? They'll work for the police more than against them. That is why the police federation are accepting of them.
I don't know what the answer is myself. I kinda think that the police and the public both have to move their positions a bit to meet on a more common ground. whatever happens this current situation cannot continue.
26th Aug 14 03:08

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boblet

People in positions of power have guided this country down a contaminated road for awhile now. People with power only gather people around them who are unlikely to expose him/her. A paedophile thus attracts paedophiles. A bent copper attracts bent coppers. Muslim zealots attract Muslim zealots. Clever, sly people are an exception to this rule they tend to employ idiots, thus strengthening their own positions. A certain Mr Flowers will speak volumes for the Church & the Banks. The phone camera has exposed much, but too quickly. It will take awhile for the good, honest but passive folk, of our Great Britain to re-establish themselves in an honest society. Most coppers will slowly retire or move on, it is happening already. Let us hope the other areas I have mentioned self cleanse too.
26th Aug 14 02:08

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Samson (Delilah's too busy to post)

Bulldog, just a quick question, and not one that is intended to inflame, what is behind your intense dislike of the police?
I know a couple of them and the general viewpoint is that people generally dislike them either because a), they have something to hide or b) have not received the service from the police that they expected to (even if what they wanted actually wasn't a police matter).

I'm just interested.
26th Aug 14 01:08

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Bulldog

True scale of police corruption claims revealed: Almost 100 officers a year are suspended over misconduct allegations
460 police officers suspended for alleged corruption since the start of 2009
Offences include lying about suspects and stealing drugs from police stores
Scotland Yard suspended the most officers with 119 under investigation
Figures came to light via Freedom of Information requests to 46 police forces
Findings prove it's not just 'a few rotten apples', says MP
Authorities vow to crack down on the scourge of police corruption


ITS A CLEAR EXAMPLE OF THEIR CRIMINAL WAYS .......AND NOW ITS THE POLICE THAT NEED TO WATCH THEIR BACKS -CROOKS !
26th Aug 14 12:08

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collar

Whether they are stuck on a computer, policing in the industrial estate, today's po po behave like automated factory units and then set in motion by a clown. What a way to do policing!
Half the western world can only hazard a guess at how law enforcers used to end disputes on the pub circuit. You would be right not to like how it's done now.
Seems arrests are irrelevant, just so long as the fines look profitable, the arrests rate doesn't matter! A bit like having private security, but hey at least I've got an intact leg to walk on!
The expression "there is always a bad apple in the punnet'' was invented decades ago, but here we are still making the same excuses for the peelers.
23rd Aug 14 05:08

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Bulldog

Caught-camera-Police-officers-filmed-trying-catch-speeders-unmarked-car-despite-rules-saying-cameras-clearly-visible.....

WHEN ARE WE GONNA STAND UP TO THIS ?
DAVID YOUR OUT NEXT & TAKE YOUR CRIMINAL TOFFS WITH YOU !
22nd Aug 14 02:08

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Bulldog

Five police officers accused of gross misconduct after 'changing their stories over death of suspect during drug search'
The officers will face gross misconduct charges but not criminal charges
Mr Ullah, 39, died after police forced him to the ground in High Wycombe
Officers alleged that he had drugs in his mouth before he collapsed
An inquest into his death was abandoned in 2011 after discrepancies emerged in police statements
The IPCC confirms that police officers could be sacked !!!!!

SICK AND TIRED OF THESE PIGS , MORE ACTION TO BE TAKEN AGAINST THESE CRIMINALS AND OPEN THE PRISION DOOR TO A CAT !
9th Aug 14 03:08

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Samson (Delilah's too busy to post)

Background checks have been in place for the police for more years than I care to remember. Like in any profession they are far from foolproof.
Body cameras are coming in now and they are being backed by the police federation. Their view is that they will secure more convictions than they will prove the legitimacy of complaints. For the criminal fraternity the cameras are the worst thing that can happen to them. They will gather indisputable evidence against offenders so their slimy defence barristers cannot manipulate the facts.
Personally I think they will be a massive benefit to the police but little help to the public. If you look at the type of complaints against police and bad conduct by the police that have been listed in this and other gripes, little of it would be prevented by the use of cameras.
It is a shame that a small percentage of officers are corrupted by the uniform but I don't think you can ever totally eradicate their type from the job. I'm sure they don't go in there with that intention. It is something that happens over time. Their behaviour is inexcusable and they need to be removed from their jobs and prosecuted. The biggest barrier to this is the failure of honest police to report dodgy colleagues. there is a stigma to doing so as it cannot be done anonymously. Once you've reported a colleague and it becomes common knowledge nobody will then work with you as they fear that you will report them should they make even an honest mistake.
It's a real dilema!
5th Aug 14 08:08

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Bulldog

Can we trust these people ! Are they honest or just on a power trip ?
Scams ? Hiding evidence ? Fitting people up ? Caused death to honest citizens ?
No one is above the law & prisons are the way forward for these crooks in uniform!
Body cameras & background checks are a must , bank accounts to be checked regulary.
4th Aug 14 08:08

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WOW

PC Saheena Tegally, 35, began exchanging 'inappropiate' texts and emails with Richard Myerson hours after she and two colleagues pulled him over in his Porsche 911 turbo while on patrol in Highgate, north London, the court was told.

Tegally, who worked in the Met Police's West Hampstead division, gave Myerson her mobile number and asked him to return to the police station at 11am the next day to present his insurance documents, Wood Green Crown Court heard.

LOL
4th Aug 14 08:08

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Bulldog

Facing jail, the TV star PCSO who conned £10,000 out of foreign tourists at Gatwick
PCSO Alexis Scott took money as passengers prepared to board at Gatwick
The 39-year-old told them they were only allowed to take £1,000 out of UK
Those who argued told they could be detained, prosecutor claims
She even held her police hat out for victims to put money in, court hears
In total she conned £10,000 from six travellers in April last year, jury told
She has been convicted of six counts of theft and abusing her position


LOL , AS IVE ALWAYS SAID A BUNCH ON CRIMINALS IN UNIFORM !
31st Jul 14 02:07

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Bulldog

PC Clare Stretton (left), from Telford, Shropshire, is said to have groomed 82-year-old grandfather Charles Foulkes (right) after his son Colin (inset), 49, was hacked to death with an axe. Mr Foulkes's family say Stretton knew he was rich and vulnerable, and that his wife, Dorothy, was terminally ill. The pair sent text messages, with one from Stretton allegedly reading: 'I love you so very much darling.' She is also said to have worn low-cut blouses and showered the pensioner with attention. Now, Mr Foulkes's family have now lodged a writ at the High Court seeking reparations of £100,000 from Stretton as well as unspecified damages for 'serious distress'.

NOT A WELL PAID JOB ANYMORE AFTER THE CUTS !
28th Jul 14 11:07

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Loach

I assume you already keep a diary cataloging his behaviour, are you filming, or at least photographing his actions?
It might be an idea.
15th Jul 14 05:07

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Bazchaz

For the last 7.5 months I have been verbally abused and threatened by this guy who has just moved in below my flat, he is living with a girl whose brother was previously living there.he has nearly hit my car by driving at speed and just stopped in time m go miss my car. He has also driven at my partner and
Just laughed at her when he passed her.it has now come out that he. Is a police man and has told a neighbour of ours that he is out to get us kicked out of our flat. Is there any thing I can do about this situation I am In ?
15th Jul 14 11:07

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Loving it

Police could face the sack for being rude to the public and will be banned from having s3x while on duty under new code of ethics

Police officers will have to abide by a new strict 10-point code of ethics
Officers will be banned from having s3x on duty or arriving to work drunk
The code will outlaw 'rude' officers who will have to be nice to the public
The plan will be published next week by the Royal College of Policing
The ethics clampdown follows a range of scandals involving the police
12th Jul 14 02:07

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Bulldog

'Powerful elite' of at least 20 establishment figures may have been part of paedophile ring that abused children for decades


WELL WELL MORE CORRUPT SCUM BAGS !
8th Jul 14 12:07

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Maidstone

Kent police especially at Maidstone police station are very corrupted, I have been arrested then released without charge several times, I understand there is a book at Maidstone police state as to how many times the police can get an individual arrested
5th Jul 14 11:07

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Bulldog

The details of a secret report describing widespread corruption among some Metropolitan Police detectives in the early 2000s have been revealed.

The document - called Operation Tiberius - says more than 40 serving officers were working with eight crime syndicates to help them evade justice for crimes including murder and drug trafficking.

MPs whose job it is to scrutinise the Met had asked to be given the intelligence report but Scotland Yard have only allowed six heavily redacted pages to be published.

In a statement, the Met Police said: "The passage of time does nothing to reduce the very real risks to anti-corruption tactics, intelligence sources or current operations. This is not about refusing to be transparent but protecting life.


MORE LIES NEVER TRUST THE POLICE EVER DISHONEST PIGS
26th Jun 14 11:06

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Bulldog

Corrupt police will be jailed for up to 14 years under new laws brought in following investigation into racist murder of Stephen Lawrence
Punishment would carry same maximum sentence as burglary or importing Class B drugs
It will also apply to police who fail to act because of a friendship or other relationship with a perpetrator
New offence will also be seen as further crackdown on police behaviour in wake of Plebgate affair

LOL IL SEE THAT BIG MOUTH PRI!K IN SPAIN WILL SOON BE BACK IN THE UK !

About time I see them dirty bent coppers in their sports cars ? On their salary ?
10th Jun 14 11:06

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boblet

I apologise for resurrecting this old gripe but Teresa Mays speech to a silent police fed deserves a massive compliment. Thank god someone finally did. Maybe other politician's will go shoulder to shoulder with her. Harold Shipman murdered his British patients. However once he topped the wrong one, an X Lord Mayor & mother of a solicitor, he was brought to book, by the previously lazy & totally disinterested police force. The police recently launched a determined attack on a high profile politician, a bad move, like Harold's. Police V Politicians????
22nd May 14 05:05

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Bulldog

A 19-year-old with Down’s syndrome was detained by police for nine hours after trying to get into his school when it was closed.

Abdul Al-Faisal was arrested on suspicion of burglary after going to retrieve his favourite hat from Haringey Sixth Form Centre in Tottenham.

What another attempt call Imran khan and sue the police !
8th May 14 09:05

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Samson
Yes more police offices will get sent down for stealing on raids , harassment , making up evidence & helping put statements together !
And we can all watch them making deals to hide organised criminals ... Maybe we can watch them partying in a certain Spanish bar ?
Yes cameras would eliminate their rotten behaviour .
1st May 14 12:05

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Samson

I think that body cameras would be a great idea. Not only would it cause the police to act more professionally it would be a great evidence gathering tool. I bet the amount of successful convictions would increase when the police are able to present this level of proof.
25th Apr 14 09:04

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Bulldog

The Bulldog is back ! I watched a video on YouTube about the uk police -WOW what a bunch of crooks , pushing people ? Punching people ? & even wanting to beat someone up ?
This has to stop & body cameras will have to be rolled out now !
This is a serious situation !
End to police & CPS corruption now
Vote UKIP and make sure all serving officers are drugs tested & bank accounts watched .
24th Apr 14 07:04

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Bulldog

As a UK citizen I'm sick with the corruption it effects us all , police offices on the take , shredding evidence , planning kidnaps ?
MPs going crazy with public funds & paying for rent boys !
The CPS a bunch of twats with little or no education in law " oh we will just run it thru the courts & let them decide "
What a waste of money & the Eastern Europeans we'll they see this on the news and think soft touch in Britain !
Enough already
21st Apr 14 03:04

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Brett

Corruption is rife across all areas policing and the law in general.

All the individuals do is learn to exploit it.

After all it’s not a crime until you get caught. And as we have seen with politician’s expenses if you can mould the law to suit what you want then it’s within the rules.

Expenses were the tip of a very big ice burg.
14th Apr 14 11:04

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Samson (Delilah's too busy to post)

Have to agree with some of that Bulldog. The CPS are largely made up of solicitors that were not good enough to make it in private practice. They are frequently inept and miss key points of evidence resulting in a failed conviction attempt.

I do think that some of these recent prosecutions against celebrities have been nothing more than a witch hunt though. It's a scandal that they have been allowed to happen and the amount of our tax money that has been wasted is criminal.
14th Apr 14 09:04

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Bulldog

Some Tories calling for a higher threshold of evidence after acquittals of Nigel Evans, Michael Le Vell and Bill Roache

The CPS another bunch of crooks - running cases thru the courts despite having little or no evidence !
Just another example of abuse in the system & we need to stop this !
11th Apr 14 10:04

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Bulldog

Dp
We see these criminal actions everyday the police will stop young kids who cause no issue but hey wrong hat - wrong skin type. :(
We must insure more action is taking against them & serious cases should result in an offending officer doing time !
We see & hear more now then ever before !
10th Apr 14 09:04

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Dp.

Their corruption is everywhere and even in the simplist of activities.

I watched a marked police car doing easily over 100 mph without lights or sirens go past me last night.

During my journey of a further 20 miles I never saw the car pulling anyone over.

Why is it different for a police car to speed and not the normal motorist?

Nobody is above the law.
10th Apr 14 08:04

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Bulldog

Exclusive: More evidence of police corruption relating to Daniel Morgan case - Britain’s most notorious unsolved murder - mysteriously ‘missing’

We'll well what do we have here !
10th Apr 14 01:04

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Bulldog

Corrupt police in the Flying Squad were suspected of plotting to kidnap the partner of a cash van driver to obtain a £50,000 ransom, secret intelligence reports obtained by the BBC reveal.

WOW - do I wanna stop ? Rotten bunch of crooks , now that explains why they can offerd life's luxuries , cars , holidays homes & clubs in Spain !
7th Apr 14 11:04

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pet

Diverse ' opinions are good, bulldog :) got to admit this site would be a bit dull without heated debate.
2nd Apr 14 01:04

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Bulldog

Pet , it's all fun and games & we all have great opinions ... Nick had an opinion I didn't share so I put up a challenge . This post is done let's move on and enjoy summer :)
31st Mar 14 02:03

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pet

I doubt a 'little boy' would have the coherence or intellect that 'nick' appears to have, bulldog. How about not throwing insults at people just because you don't agree with their opinions? I don't agree with you or Nick, or tired and emotional... But I try not to be rude (yep sometimes I fail).. could we try not at least all be civil to each other? I admit I've been rude and horrible to people a few times (damn you vodka). But surely, we're all on the same side? (No I'm not a hippie).
30th Mar 14 10:03

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Bulldog

Nick
You little boy - or should I say Nick the traffic warden ?
I'm sure nick you wanted to join the force & you failed :(
So the traffic warden job was the only option , I'm never rattled or shaken as I have nothing to fear .
Get ticketing Nick . Go an raise some money for the boys in blue .
29th Mar 14 09:03

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Nick

Bulldog protesting too much.....

Have I got you rattled, I think so....

I can see the guilt in everything your write, its spinning your moral compass, and because of it you feel the need to hit out at others.
Confess your sins you’ll feel better for it in the long run..

and who knows maybe you'll be forgiven
29th Mar 14 07:03

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Bulldog

Boblet
I have a close friend who was put thru serious hell by a certain police officer , It was only when he managed to record an incident that took place & take that recording to a certain law firm that it all stopped .
As a result he now suffers serious depression & is unable to pursue his dream of being a youth worker .
If buddy the police ever try a dirty tricks campaign on you record everything - even bye a spy watch on eBay & keep the evidence , you be shocked at how quickly they run when legal action is taken against them !
And the judges & jurors are very aware of their behaviour & the Lies they tell .
29th Mar 14 11:03

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Bulldog

Nick ,
I'm an honest person - never have I stole a penny or cheated someone !
My wealth comes from hard work and drive & a good eyes for stocks & shares .
My opinion is Based on facts & recent events - as I said before little boy don't be upset that your not doing well , your a true hater & I assume has no friends :(
Please if your finding things hard at the moment join the force or become a traffic warden ?
Nick are you a traffic warden ?
29th Mar 14 11:03

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Nick

Bulldog, who you are eh! I assumed a criminal. Nobody gains wealth without a degree of dishonesty and you claim to have wealth, ergo a criminal then.
29th Mar 14 10:03

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boblet

Over the years my jaundiced view of the police force has suffered some opposition. It would appear that the latest police champion (Samson) has suffered a hair cut. My criticisms are based on personal experience. I only enter the arena when a griper wearing rose coloured spectacles enters it.
28th Mar 14 07:03

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Bulldog

Guys on serious note ,
We should be able to trust the police but unfortunately you can't , recently we keep seeing more & more misconduct & it's getting ever so hard for them to do cover ups .
I feel that body cameras should be in place , more public involvement in cases against the police, so the public can decide who was right or wrong .
And the ipcc should not be employing ex officers but good honest members of the public .
Recently they have been carrying out stop checks in key locations & I believe that is only to generator income for NO 10 .
Real serious criminals are not fearfull of the police but make deals with them
( Stephen Lawrence case has proved that )
And the relationship between certain serious drug dealers also brings that to light !
I hope that one day they will join the force for the correct reasons with an honest passion to deter crime and provide a safer community for everyone .

Thanks everyone & Nick 🍺 have one on me
28th Mar 14 04:03

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marmalade

Ha ha Nick - 'little boy' sums you up a treat!
28th Mar 14 12:03

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collar

That's right Bulldog - you tell 'im fella!
28th Mar 14 12:03

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Bulldog

You say you have no record and lots of money, so you haven't been caught yet.

Nick if only you knew who I am - I can assure you little boy I have no criminal record & my wealth is thru honest means .
Now you run along little boy !
28th Mar 14 11:03

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Bulldog

Hey Samson
It all fun & games - I have an opinion & you do too :)
My views are based on fact and not fiction & lots of good honest people have been fitted up or harassed by a rotten force !
I'm sure a small % of officers are good but very few .
My views are shared by plenty & we as a community need to insure the corruption stops now & body cameras are a must .
28th Mar 14 11:03

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Samson (Delilah's too busy to post)

Well bulldog, you've proven my point that you're not capable of a balanced debate. Your prejudice runs so deep you can no longer see any degree of common sense. That's the way that extremists are made and I'm worried for you.
Boblet makes a good point about turning a blind eye. I believe that we need to sort out the Police Force and rid it of its rotten apples and those that facilitate it by ignoring it. An overhaul would be a good thing.
For this to really work though the general public also need to give it a chance. Whilst we have people like you that cannot see anything other than negative, it can never happen.
So if you want to see a change then it needs to start with you!

That's my final point on this issue as I don't really think there is anything else to say. Let the insults fly, I won't be responding now as I don't see the point in holding a debate with somebody whose views are that extreme.
28th Mar 14 09:03

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Nick

Bulldog as we can all see thou doth protest too much. Only a person who has fallen foul of the police would do this.

You say you have no record and lots of money, so you haven't been caught yet.

Well keep going.

BTW the use of LOL doesn't make your post funny, it just shows to others that you feel they should laugh at you perception of a joke.
28th Mar 14 08:03

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Bulldog

Forces across England and Wales employ officers with convictions for offences including burglary, causing death by careless driving, robbery, supplying drugs, domestic violence, forgery and perverting the course of justice.

Samson what part didn't you read !
27th Mar 14 10:03

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Bulldog

Boblet my friend I owe you a 🍺
Corrupt , rotten , bunch of crooks in uniform & a firm that is very involved in crime !
They have never been soo many reports of their dis-honest behaviour .
John Charles , Ian Tomlinson , Smiley culture & Stephen Lawrence all failed by a corrupt bunch of little boys on steroids. !

I rest my case on the bacon
27th Mar 14 10:03

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boblet

S (d). Let us agree for the moment that it is a minority of coppers who are bent. Let us also apply that same rule of life to Joe public. That leaves us with the situation that a percentage of the honest public & police are turning a blind eye to the activities of the dishonest few. A bent copper cant keep his/her activities completely secret so his/her mates must be turning a blind one. Our police force needs sorting out root & branch mate they are indefensible.
27th Mar 14 10:03

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marmalade

Samson, you sound like a rotten copper's nark, just like ''Nick'' you are a lousy grass.
27th Mar 14 10:03

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Samson (Delilah's too busy to post)

Yes, I do have something else to say.
I'm not going to claim the police are without their faults but I say again, those that are corrupt are a minority.
The criminal records you refer to are largely made up of traffic offences. They get you a criminal record but are not actually 'crimes' as such. Ask yourself if you would consider yourself a criminal for doing 36 in a 30mph zone? I suspect the answer is no. You absolutely cannot get into the police force if you have been convicted of an actual crime. True to say though that they should know better given that they are police officers.
You can search the net and no doubt show me 1000's of bad reports about them. You won't find hardly any good ones though as it doesn't make good press.

All I say is that people need to take a more balanced view. It's fine to criticise but you should also give credit where it is due. Sadly people with a negative view of them cannot ever do that. How would you feel as a member of the public if your local policeman told you that you were thieving low life scum? After all, there is someone like that in your neighbourhood and why not tarnish you all with the same brush? The answer is obvious, you're not all like that in your neighbourhood and it wouldn't be fair to go around saying you are. That standard should also be applied to the police.
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Nick where you bullied at school or did you never have a girlfriend ?
Ahh what a lonely life one leads :(
Join the force mate lol
And maybe one day you will be a bacon bit in uniform lol
27th Mar 14 09:03

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Bulldog

Police officer jailed for selling seized drugs

DC Nicholas McFadden of West Yorkshire police jailed for 23 years for stealing £1m of drugs and plotting to sell them !

Samson anything else to say ?
27th Mar 14 09:03

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Bulldog

More than 900 serving police officers and community support officers have a criminal record, official figures show.

Forces across England and Wales employ officers with convictions for offences including burglary, causing death by careless driving, robbery, supplying drugs, domestic violence, forgery and perverting the course of justice.

Samson - maybe get your other half to do your posts !
27th Mar 14 08:03

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Nick - I can assure you I'm not short of money & don't have a criminal record !
Plenty of officers have a criminal record & have been accused of being close to certain criminal organisations here in the UK !
All the big crimes are bought & paid for - ever heard that saying ?
Clearly Nick you have had dealings with the police - maybe helped them fit someone up ?
27th Mar 14 06:03

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Nick

Billdog can't you appeal against your sentence. You might get your ill gotten gains back if you win.
27th Mar 14 11:03

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Samson (Delilah's too busy to post)

Bulldog
"He's a confident bacon bit- corrupt & full of himself I wonder why ? "
Yes, I agree, and I hope he gets his come uppance in due course. But he isn't representative of a majority is he.

"I can assure you the bacon bits are rotten to the core , most are ex criminals or pumped full of steroids !"

That's just a silly thing to say because you cannot get into the police with a criminal record!

It's comments like those that weaken the argument against the police. They're sweeping generalisations that have no foundation in fact.
I'm all in favour of people criticising the police when they are in the wrong, they deserve it then. In general though you get taken far more seriously if you approach it with a degree of balance. They do really well sometimes too and that should be acknowledged as well.

one other thing...
" prison in this country is full of very clever people"

Clearly not as clever as the police that caught them and put them there!
27th Mar 14 09:03

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Samson (Delilah's too busy to post)
" they can't put a finger on me " that is what the fool in Spain said about the Stephen Lawrence case ???
He's a confident bacon bit- corrupt & full of himself I wonder why ?
Too many incidents everyday coming to light from cash going missing to drugs being sold back to dealers by officers currently serving !
Corrupt to the core
27th Mar 14 02:03

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Bulldog

Ohhh & Nick .. prison in this country is full of very clever people who use their time to learn better & far more advanced tricks !
Another example of how this system doesn't work !
I say non serious crimes met with more community work & those who have been fitted up by a corrupt police officer - sue the crap out of them - use IKP solicitors and let a certain Mr Khan rip into them .
27th Mar 14 02:03

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Bulldog

Bulldog, it sounds as if all your ill gotten gains were confiscated when you were caught and went down. Is that why your bitter and twisted.

Can’t do the time eh…

Lol . I'm no criminal just a person who notices their rotten ways more then others !
And regarding my comment about the rotten apple with his bar in Spain & the other in America - wasn't he involved in the Stephen Lawrence case ?


I can assure you the bacon bits are rotten to the core , most are ex criminals or pumped full of steroids !

I'm sure their are a good couple in the force who are honest / but very few :(

Justice for Stephen Lawrence & let the truth come forward .
27th Mar 14 02:03

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pet

Crockery, collar. I'm so sorry things are so bad where you are (are you living in Bristol?!). Joking aside, can you not move elsewhere at all? I know easier said than done, sorry if that was insensitive question.
26th Mar 14 10:03

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collar

4am start, scones, 35lb roll dough, bun dough, morning goods etc.. busy day tomoz, needs many sleeps need earplugs or police to sort out nuisance gun battles is annoying
26th Mar 14 09:03

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collar

The police seem to do nothing about the constant automatic weapon fire in my town, which keeps me awake at night. I find it very annoying, also grenades and tracer bullets, it is unsettling when one cannot sleep, I work in bakery so early start, need my sleep. - we want peace on our towns, so we can rest a while.
26th Mar 14 08:03

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pet

So a random question, who really trusts the police to be there for you when you really really need them? I'm just curious.
26th Mar 14 04:03

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Nick

Bulldog, it sounds as if all your ill gotten gains were confiscated when you were caught and went down. Is that why your bitter and twisted.

Can’t do the time eh…
26th Mar 14 03:03

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Samson (Delilah's too busy to post)

I don't actually understand what point you're trying to make!

The only bit I understood was the last sentence. The status you imply that you want is total anarchy. That has been proven to be nothing but destructive where the worst elements of society raise to the top and normal decent folk suffer as a result. You may want anarchy but I doubt that most people do.

Our individual views of the police are moulded by our own experiences with them. I've only ever had one problem with them for no apparent reason and I put that down to one individual. O don't think they're all scum and/or corrupt as a result.
26th Mar 14 01:03

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collar

I don't think the ''vast majority'' of po lice are straight - legal people, why aren't you fighting your end of the case? crime closure rates too high? promotion not forthcoming ? Tell the brass of these where to get their evidence. There's a surplus of available sources. These leeches are charging far too much for your briefs. Move to a non-council estate. Carry a chip on you're shoulder by all means, but Bulldog is correct.

Also I don't want po lice of any kind in any situation. It's dangerous.
26th Mar 14 12:03

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Samson (Delilah's too busy to post)

Bulldog,
It's clear from your posts that you do not like the Police and that is your right. Unfortunately though you are tarring them all with the same brush and making some silly comments along the way.
We all know and accept that there are bent coppers out there. The vast majority are not though, they're honest hard working people just like the rest of us.
Comments like them having luxury bars in Spain weaken your argument, not strengthen it. I have a property abroad in two different countries and I'm only on a similar salary to a Police Officer. I made some shrewd investments a few years ago that paid off. The fact that I did so doesn't shed a poor light on me so why can it not be the same for them?

Be anti police by all means, that's your right but you need to give a good reasoned argument as to why YOU don't trust them. Don't just give us soundbites about the few high profile incidents we all know about.
26th Mar 14 09:03

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Bulldog

Nick - do you think we should trust a group of corrupt individuals ?
Officers having luxury bars in Spain etc ..... On their salary they can't afford that !
Corrupt to the core and recent events have proven that ....!
" they can't put a finger on me " a recents comment from the bent copper
25th Mar 14 10:03

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Nick

99.99 percent of people have nothing to fear from the police. the 0.1 percent including you guys clearly do.
25th Mar 14 08:03

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Bulldog

John Charles shoot to death by a criminal hand / called the police ?
Did he break any laws ?
Crooks R us = police
More & more malicious actions are coming to light with video phones etc ....
24th Mar 14 11:03

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Bulldog

Clearly you have all broken the law and don't like how you were treated

Don't do the crime if you can't stand the treatment.

I think your a joker Nick ! Do you think the parents of Stephen Lawrence trust the police ?

The police are the biggest law breakers on the land - make up the rules as and when they want !
24th Mar 14 11:03

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@stool-pigeon: We know what you are Nick, a damned ''copper's nark''.
24th Mar 14 09:03

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collar

Perhaps one of the biggest problems is when you chose to blindly side with an organisation. Spending time supporting them is not going to help your case in the event of a nicking, if anything it will make it worse. I think it would be best if you and you're brief both discussed together what is going wrong in your case and whether or not you can dredge up any character refs, or leave the particular wit out together. Sure, you both may not have a problem with the money side of things (legal-aid notwithstanding), but court costs doesn't make a criminal case work without a good brief.
24th Mar 14 04:03

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Samson (Delilah's too busy to post)

Marmalade wrote "It takes a certain type of personality that wants to join the police - the type that wants to push and order others around and have a badge to hide behind."

I don't agree with that to be honest. I know a guy that is a police officer and he is nothing like that at all. His reason for joining was that as a father of young children he wanted to try and help make the world that they'll grow up in a slightly better place.
I think people join the police for a whole variety of reasons and you can't make sweeping generalisations about their motivation.
I'm never going to try and tell anyone that there are not people like that in there, of course there are, but I don't think they are a majority.
I think the police are an easy target and are often in a 'damned if you do, damned if you don't' situation because we, the public, all have our own individual expectations of them.
I wouldn't say that I am either pro-police or anti-police personally. I think they have a very tough job to do which on occasions they do very poorly. I guess it is easy for us to criticise from the sidelines.
24th Mar 14 02:03

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pet

You sound slightly paranoid, I really hope it's just paranoia and the police aren't the mad monsters they seem to have been to you. The silver lining? At least you're in England, so at least you won't get Vic Mackey kicking your door down 'the shield' style. :)
24th Mar 14 02:03

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Nick.

Clearly you have all broken the law and don't like how you were treated

Don't do the crime if you can't stand the treatment.
24th Mar 14 12:03

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marmalade

It takes a certain type of personality that wants to join the police - the type that wants to push and order others around and have a badge to hide behind. Private security guards are usually those who couldn't make the grade as a real police, and we all know what they are like.
24th Mar 14 12:03

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Samson (Delilah's too busy to post)

Most people that don't like/trust the police usually come from two backgrounds.

1. The obvious 'have got something to hide' brigade. Otherwise known as the criminal fraternity.
2. Those that have sought assistance from the Police only to have been disappointed by the response they got. This understandably results in them viewing the police in a negative light.

The problem with this though is that it is often the publics lack of knowledge about police powers that leaves them feeling this way. There are many things that the police don't have authority over and cannot help with. That's not their fault, that's the law of the land. The police don't write it, the home office, parliament and HOL does.
Don't get me wrong, there are without doubt some rotten apples in the police, but I firmly believe they are a minority not the masses. Wherever there is power there is the temptation of corruption. Unfortunately a few of them succumb to it and when they do you will always hear about it because it sells papers and makes good news. You won't usually hear about all the good they do as it doesn't sell papers. The result of this is that we only hear negative press about the police and it distorts our view of them.
It's worth remembering that no matter how much you claim to hate them you'll be sure to call them when the need arises. We all would do the same.
24th Mar 14 09:03

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Bulldog

People who don't trust the police simply watch tv & see innocent man shot , mans pushed to his death , pulled & dragged by the hair & documents going missing !
Do I need say more NICK ?
21st Mar 14 10:03

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Nick

People who don't trust the police usually have good reason not too.

e.g. they have fallen foul of the law in the passed.

Enough said.
19th Mar 14 09:03

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Bulldog

Scotland Yard spent two days shredding 'lorry load' of papers relating to an inquiry into police corruption over Stephen Lawrence murder investigation

We'll well what do we have here ? More corruption time to sue the met again & this time get the apples behind this sham !
18th Mar 14 06:03

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Bulldog

PC James kiddie a rotten bully as seen on the bbc today , watch out watch out cameras are about and they may be watching us but they are also watching the boys in blue ( sorry bacon bit )
Community service have fun with the bad boys I'm sure they will make his life hell!
Lol where your mates know to back you up and lie ?
11th Mar 14 11:03

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Bulldog

More rotten scum ! Punched & kicked !
Time to call IKP and let Mr Khan loose on the scum !
I say sue them now .
11th Mar 14 09:03

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Bulldog

A police officer who punched a suspected shoplifter in the head before pinning her to the ground has been sentenced to a community order.
11th Mar 14 09:03

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Bulldog

Well we'll
Chief Inspector Tanya Brookes earned hundreds of pounds by buying products on eBay and in discount outlets before returning them to the store for a full refund. Wearing her police ID lanyard, she would demand a refund in what the prosecution branded an abuse of trust.

More dishonest bacon bits
11th Mar 14 11:03

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Bulldog

New evidence links murder of Stephen Lawrence to that of a private investigator,
Well , well what do we have here ! It's stinks from the core and we can all smell it !
Get rid of the closed court system & body cameras issued from today & all police officers to have their finances kept an eye on !

Get rid of the plonker at no 10 & lets get a fresher honest person in .
Change is needed now .
9th Mar 14 02:03

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Bulldog

A former detective facing investigation over alleged corruption in the Stephen Lawrence inquiry has boasted ‘They’ll never lay a finger on me’, it was claimed yesterday.

John Davidson has run the Smugglers restaurant in the Spanish holiday island of Minorca for 15 years since taking early retirement from the Metropolitan Police.

Like I always say how the fcuk does a bacon bit end up in Spain ? Rotten corrupt bacon rashers !

It's obvious he was on the take --- gimme the loot gimme the loot !
8th Mar 14 11:03

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Bulldog

We'll well Stephen Lawrence more bacon bits on the loose !
Simple solution all officers to wear cameras , all officers to have their bank accounts checked & any purchases they make - on -line accounts like Facebook etc to be kept an eye on !
They are scum and should be put inside for any criminal behaviour & any cps staff should also suffer the same fate !
Scum bags
7th Mar 14 10:03

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collar

I agree with Bulldog - If any Po lice starts that classic behaviour, I should cut the conversation short with a chainsaw. The thing that really annoys me about the Police is when you get a stupid twit of an occifer who has to project his annoying views over the top of a majority!
6th Mar 14 07:03

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Bulldog

Police probe after alleged attack on Autistic man
The bacon dosent know where to stop !
Dirty rotten scum
5th Mar 14 07:03

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bacon butty

The police are corrupt and the system stinks,the police get together and work out whats best for them and lie in doing so to protect themselves from getting a warning or the sack.....like you would in any job for being untrustworthy or making false allegations.The police are there to be trusted but they abuse this trust and this has a knock on effect with other officers lieing so to protect each other.cornwall police are very much doing this ,newquay police are an example,its happening all over our country and there lies are costing us in tax payers money and police time.They cover things up all the time and its these officers we have to trust to give evidence in court..........the police are an embarasment
16th Feb 14 03:02

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Bulldog

No
The police work with the courts to get amazing pay outs for their rotten mates - seen that pig on TV !
People can't pay their bills but this bacon rasher got £480k
Enough is enough change the law on these bacon bits
7th Feb 14 01:02

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Stalag 14

Ben Parkinson was originally given a derisory £152,000 despite losing both legs and sustaining 37 injuries in total after a Taliban I.E.D

£484,000 given to an RAF typist suffering from repetitive strain injury to a thumb.

We live in sick sick world where lawyers (parasite) reign supreme.
6th Feb 14 07:02

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It's worth noting that the victim of this animal in uniform was only awarded £65,000 in damages.
6th Feb 14 12:02

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Bulldog

A former Gwent PC whose arrest of a pensioner was videoed and shown on the internet has been awarded at least £430,000 damages after winning a case for constructive dismissal.
What a joke !
These criminals also get paid for their malicious behaviour .
6th Feb 14 12:02

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Clint

Grummyoldwoman, just read collars very strange statement, must have had one of those funny episodes.
23rd Jan 14 07:01

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grumpyoldwoman

"doesn't it make sense?"

Sorry, collar, makes no sense to me at all! What on earth are you on about?
23rd Jan 14 10:01

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collar

Why is it that some Policemen can be easily upset because the rotten-egg fits into the top of another. But other Po-po just lie about when you try to question them.
The other day I reaated fast to a situation to take my time when one of them suddenly appeared out the top of another and fell on me.

If one can do it, why can't the others - doesn't it make sense?
23rd Jan 14 08:01

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Bulldog

Former PCSO Andrea Waldeck, 43, from Gloucestershire, was found guilty of smuggling and also fined £100,000.

Rotten apple - what a shame your mates can't bail you out !
Example of how corrupt the fools are !
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boblet

I have been watching how bailiffs work on youtube & their nefarious activities. The people being approached right or wrong all seem owe money. However there now seems to be a section of the community that has found cracks in the bailiffs armour. The police seem to have taken the bailiffs side. Anyone with an ounce of sense can now see, thanks to the camera & youtube the way our police perceive us the British public, as an inferior enemy. Something has gone wrong.
21st Jan 14 01:01

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Bulldog

‘We’ll nick you now and I will make your day a living hell, 'cause you’ll be in that cell all day’: Police officer swore and threatened to lock man up for photographing crash scene

More abuse by corrupt police operating on our streets - body cameras NOW !
8th Jan 14 08:01

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Bulldog

Video captures moment PCSO who pulled over a driver was then arrested HIMSELF for being twice the drink-drive limit by police officers he called for back-up

LOL

like I say crooks in uniform .
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boblet

lissy You do not say whether the policeman arrived on a German motorcycle. If he had you would be in much deeper trouble now I suspect.
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lissy

I was involved in a road traffic accident a couple of weeks ago, with a motorcyclist i stopped and got out of the car to be accused of being on the wrong side of the road by the motorcyclist, which I was not, i was very shock up and said nothing (there were 4 of them and I am not confrontational at all) but went back to my car to check the damage.
The police arrived and without caution or anything asked me what happened I have never had any dealings with the police and was not thinking right and said i don't know because to be honest I was unable to process anything, he then came to tell me that the motorcyclist and one of his friends had said I was on the wrong side of the road (the other two hadn't seen if i was or not) I stated that this was not the case and that in fact they were on the wrong side I was then told that they were not exactly boy racers (they were middle aged men) and as i had no-one to support my story and he did I was being held accountable. I commented that they would stick together and that I felt this was unfair and was told that i was not to speak to the officer in that way. I am being sent on a Driver alertness course and I am afraid to complain incase of repercussions or prosecution for dangerous driving as they told me this could happen if i refused the course.
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Support

Plebgate: officers will not face disciplinary hearing despite criticism
MORE CORRUPTION TO THE CORE BUNCH OF THUGS IN UNIFORM!
Body Cameras & call IKP solicitors if they harass you !
16th Oct 13 02:10

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The United States government is an evil that must be destroyed. I'd love to see Obama assassinated.
10th Oct 13 12:10

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lol

Theresa may another washed MP more if her rubbish NCA?
NATIONAL CRIMINAL AGENCY
7th Oct 13 10:10

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lol

Video filmed by police during the Hillsborough Disaster "may have been edited", a pre-inquest hearing has been told.

YES YES MORE LIES MORE LIES !
THE POLICE FAIL US & PROMOTE CRIMINAL BEHAVIOUR
7th Oct 13 10:10

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tre

And now the truth about Stephen lawrence - bugs & covert operations@
Body cameras & the sack for any officer breaking the law!
Game over dirty cops!
26th Jun 13 01:06

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ahforfoulkessake

someone on here, site admin perhaps, removed my last comment deatiling my friend's troubles with police. I did not swear in it.
21st Jun 13 05:06

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angry member of the public

Just read a few of your comments about the police certanley agree with all the complaints stated against them like stated criminals in uniform they truly are. a family member is well and truly being set up by an ex partner who is a pcso new partner is a sargent pulling all the strings
5th Feb 13 07:02

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Fed up pedestrian, Judging by the constant number of post this person is making it must be obvious that there are serious issues in his/her life. Most probably attention seeking is the aim. I think it wise not to react or reply to this poster as it only encourages them to become even more radical.
18th Jan 13 04:01

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Fed up pedestrian

"Where I grew up - I grew up on the north side of London, lived in the projects. ..... You hear a lot of police sirens, you hear a lot of gunfire."

What do you get out of telling these stories that aren't true?

No one who comes from London says the north side of London, it isn't a term we use. You just say North London. Projects don't exist in this country, council estates yes, projects no.

You don't hear a lot of gunfire anywhere in London. It's still thankfully very uncommon.

What is it that you take away from all this? It is beyond tedious for everyone else.
18th Jan 13 04:01

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Waster

Yard detective faces jail over bid to sell
phone hacking tip: Terror officer tried to strike cash deal with paper
April Casburn told she could face an 'immediate custodial sentence'
53-year-old was found guilty of one count of misconduct in public office
Casburn will be sentenced later this month
ENOUGH SAID - LOCK HER UP !
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anm

Thats right the police are a just a privilege club for those whos mummys usually have lied to get them in,but also a safe haven where elongated 'crikeys' and big bouncing. Bilko puftas can be safe , but also its just good to get silly little spoiled college fools kept in a bedroom on curfew you spoiled pissed college wallies.
28th Nov 12 10:11

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boblet

lauriesmb The short answer to your problem is facts. Only react to facts not opinion. Once you have established something as factual, good or bad write it down, with the date, time & any corroborative evidence. Opinions & name-calling will not cut it in court. You & your son must remain polite the police hate that they want your son to step out of line. Your son's father in law is a grand father he has only limited rights with regards to grandchildren. They do not allow him to waste police time. They also do not allow the police to waste the time we the public are paying for.
15th Nov 12 11:11

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COLIN DYER.

SGT STEVENS OF HONITON POLICE, DEVON AND CORNWALL POLICE, AND COUNCILLOR CHRIS WALE OF SIDMOUTH COUNCIL. BULLIES, ARROGANT, ABUSIVE, IGNORANT, AND ARE ABUSING THE HUMAN RIGHTS CHARTER.
I PITY ANYONE WHO HAS TO HAVE ANY CONTACT WITH THESE PEOPLE, AS THEY ARE LIKEY TO BE STICHED UP, BEATEN UP OR TAZERED FOR NO GOOD REASON.
AS FOR THE COUNCILLOR CHRIS WALE, HE HAS BEEN USING HIS POSITION TO ACCESS
SENSITIVE PRIVATE DATA HELD AT THE COUNCIL OFFICES, TO OBTAIN AN ADVANTAGE IN HOUSING BENEFITS, AND CITIZENS INFORMATION. BREACHING THE DATA PROTECTION ACT, BUT STILL NOT BEING ARRESTED OR INVESTIGATED.
hE IS A BULLY, AND AN ABUSER.
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lauriesmb

Recently my son and his partner split up, well, actually she left him because all her life, she has been controlled and manipulated by her over religious father, (who assaulted her when she was a child!), and since they split up, her father has caused my son, no end of problems. They have 2 children, and my son was in their lives every day, doted on them, and loves them dearly. He missed his kids and his partner and they both really wanted to be together. The father used mental cruelty to control his daughter, saying things like, if you have anything to do with him(my son) anymore, the family will disown you, and when you die, youll burn in hell!!
This man is a local councillor, and is very clever at manipulating people. He found out that they were meeting up in secret, and and report my son for harrasment, the police attended, arrested him, and warned him to not have contact with his ex partner. They carried on texting and meeting to make sure the children had contact with both of them, but then the father found out again and forced his daughter to report my son to the police, using very deviuos mental pressure on her.
My son was taken to court and told not to contact his partner again, but she repeatedly texted him saying she lovd him and hated her father for causing the split, the children were asking for their daddy and they were told off by her father for saying this. The father has been threatening and abusive to the children, yet he seems to get away with it with his slimy ways.
Today, he found out by accident, that my son and his daughter, had come to my house on sunday for dinner with the children, and he has phoned the local police, who came to my house this morning to arrest my son for breach of his conditions.He wasnt here, and i never told the police where he was, but the response i got was rude and aggressive saying they will wake us up at all hours unil they get him. This was at 8am, at 10.30 am they called again, searched the house and garden, made the same comment and left. At 1pm, i went out with my dog to take him for a walk, when i returned home, my neighbour said that while i was out, 4 police vehicles came to my house, plus 2 dog vans and a helicopter overhead!!
I couldnt believe it!. I phoned the police and complained about this over reaction and total waste of resources, and spoke to a sgt at Honiton police station, who was extremely rude, ignorant and abusive to me. He stated that my sons car was followed into our village, but then lost him. The police helicopter was called in, found my sons car parked in the village car park, called in the dog teams, who say they followed the scent to my house, then cordoned off the area to search for him.
Obviously they did not find my son, as, in fact it was not my sons car BUT A SIMILAR MODEL!!
The police officer was really arrogant, and ended up putting the phone down on me. Ive phoned the police HQ and made an official complaint, but it seems that my welfare is not a concern of the police. What on earth is this world coming too, when all that time and resources were wasted at tax payers expense for nothing. All my son has done, is talk to his partner and been with his children! surely there must be some way to bring this appalling reaction from the police to the notice of the media?
Devon and Cornwall police are overreactive and far too aggressive and have one of the worst records in the uk for use of force in arresting people.
14th Nov 12 10:11

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the one to tell you

Hi all
Lets be honest ,Ian Tomlinson,John Charles,Mark Duggan ETC ETC ......the list is endless!
criminals in uniform they steal ,fake statements & waste tax payers money on crap ....
Simple get rid of all the rotten apples & issue body cameras !!!!
And vote David Cameroon OUT!!!!!!!!!
Send him and his puppets to poland
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driffield

The police are lazy never been in trouble from the police in my 50 years then discovered that my wife was having an affair i confronted her with that is picked up her bag and dug her long nails into my arms i caught hold her arms to protect myself and left.
When i returned an hour later i was told the police had been called i went to the police station where i was arrested for assault.
At the station i explained in interview what had happened i was informed that my wife had a witness a close friend! i then told the police it was self defense at no point were my injures looked at.
i was then held for 6 hours in a cell i am a diabetic on medication i was given no food 3 biscuits no medical help even though i asked for a doctor !!!!!
i was advised the quickest thing to do was to accept a caution as i needed to collect my daughter from her child-minders.

WHAT A CRAP POLICE STATION GOOLE NORTH YORKS THE DCs ARE LIARS LUCKY THEY NEVER HAD A DEATH
22nd Sep 12 08:09

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David

Sadly this is not solely about police behavior more an indictment of human behavior. Its also a reflection of the justice system as a whole. There is good and bad through out all society and the work place. I considered myself to be a good and law abiding person. Unfortunately i also have had same experience of this after unwittingly uncovering some information which lead to me to experience police intimidation first hand. Every where i went the police would turn up weather i was with my family or not. At first i and my wife brushed it off as a coincidence but after a period of time we agreed that they were simply being a nuisance. In my opinion it was a low level intimidation, but hard to prove. however this really undermines the force which with all respect should be trusted by the public and regarded in the same light as the fire and ambulance service. I feel there are likely to be a lot of really good and respectable police officers in the force but it concerns me, all the high profile cases of which there seems to be a great deal over many years of police officers engaging in crime some of it extremely serious, or using there powers unlawfully. This is not good for the police service or the country as a whole. There have been numerous attempt and inquires by the police force and independent agencies to improve the service which often take years to conduct, but all this appears on face value to be of no avail. Ultimately it saddens me and i really hope that one day the police force will be held in high esteem by all of society.
22nd Sep 12 04:09

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katieduppie

The police were called to my home, by my husband because he was drunk and thought they could help hm not to drink anymore, he's been drinking lately as a result of an injury he got serving in afghan. Anyway - the police turn up, ask me what happened from the moment I woke up to the moment they arrived - I included an arugement my husband and I had earlier which resulted in me lashing out at him (physically and him holding me using one hand to keep me off of him - I was open and honest about this) the inital arrest was for afray they later changed to assault by beating.. The police officer who attended the scene was a female who admitted she was abused by her ex-boyfriend, she talked about this for over 45 mins and called him a bastard. She then tried to compare my marriage to her relationship - which are nothing alike. This police officer has given her personal opinion of the case, and she has deemed me a high risk domestic abuse victim??? I dont understand.. anyway I'm now waiting for my husband to be sentanced for holding me down by my shoulder..
22nd Jun 12 09:06

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Mrs avarage 43 yrs old

my new car (7 days old) first time ever had a new car only a little one but I and may family love her - was bashed by a man who slamed the door on the wing and then in temper bashed it again not realising I was waiting in the driving seat. He gave me his mane and number my husband came out of the shop and phoned number, it was the wrong number as man was still in the shop my husband went to see him and that man changed his munber by three digits he then said he waould get my husband arrested if he didnt leave him alone. we checked number again and 'malcolm' said yeah got right number and then put phone down. 14 calls latte no return his message is PC Malcolm xxxxx I know its only 60 quid but cant believe a police man can do this, scared to take it further because althougth law abiding can not be dealing with hassle they can give us - any ideas ????
7th Jun 12 10:06

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Former Hero

Leeds Police: Driver age 70. Waiting at traffic light I rested my head on the palm off my hand as a support, elbow on door ledge, Copper see's me, assumes I'm using a phone, he does a U-turn and catches me up in 300 yards, I stopped, He informs me he'd seen me using the phone, I tell him I do not have one, don't want one, and can't even use one, he and colleague spend 10 minutes searching my car for the phone, believe it or not they EVEN SEARCH THE BOOT!!!
I get a summons, I write to Police Complaints Wakefield, and the CPS, CPS ring me to say "Were dropping it", Wakefield want me to press for action and to supply information for a disciplinary hearing. The mistake these two Plods made was "not mentioning they had searched my car and the boot" . In Leeds it seems a man driving a car can put goods in the car boot whilst he's driving. The moral of this story is: The Poice need to public information and like little schoolboys ask for it often on TV, ???????
26th May 12 05:05

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Box X HGV 40 YEARS

HGV Driver: I was stopped by the Police walking home, I was 20 seconds from our house, all they wanted me for [sic] was to see my HGV van tachograph [a paper hours / speed recorder fitted in all HGV trucks] As the truck was 3/4 mile away from were it's parked overnight I refused to walk back with them to it. I was tired and it had been a long day. They asked me my name and address which I supplied, they then accused me off "Giving them a false name and address" and arrested me for this offence. I asked them to come to my home to ask my wife to confirm my identity. Our house was over the road and opposite us but they refused to do so. I was taken to Stockton Police Station, the custody Sergeant asked them, 2 officers, why I'd been arrested, they told him for giving them a false name and address, the custody Sergeant asked them what name I'd given them - which was Bob X, he told these two clowns that I was Bob X because he [the custody Sergeant] had gone to school with me and knew me well by name and sight. The Police force do have schoolboys like this in every force and they know they can get away with it. And do.
16th May 12 06:05

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Joe Public

I am really sad to post this, in a verbal dispute I was threatened with death, dismemberment, kicking, car smashing, all in one 20 second outburst by a professional Defendant, as the person was trepassing on our land and I wanted him off I thought this was uncalled for, so I dialled and called the Police for assistance, a Police Officer turned up. Loud mouth ran at the Police Officer and poked face-to-face shouted the same threats to him. In a way I was pleased because this meant the Officer would arrest him and take him away. This officer told him to calm down, to behave himself, to 'lets see if we can sort this out without any arguments', or I'll arrest you, loon-pots did calm down, as for me I was not given tuppence worth of consideration, even though you can assault someone by words, threats, body language, or verbal blackmail such as "I'll f---------n smash you car". This man has done others things too long winded to mention and we have sued him and won in Court damages which he's not paid. So now with Police Co-oprations he walks off smiling and telling everyone how he put that copper in his place, whats sad is that he did, and he won the verbal fight?
16th May 12 05:05

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Freddie

Ooh, me bad! Well at least a few got to see his big smile then, we're you one of them?
5th May 12 08:05

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PikeM

It says "could hardly walk" not "couldn't walk" there is a difference so learn to read properly spasmotroid.
4th May 12 11:05

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Freddie

"A Policeman once asked me if i knew what Sodomised meant, i could hardly walk after he had showed me! Oh ho"

Shame you couldn't walk afterwards................as by not walking anywhere, nobody got to see the BIG smile on your face!
4th May 12 08:05

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Jimmy Tarbuck

A Policeman once asked me if i knew what Sodomised meant, i could hardly walk after he had showed me! Oh ho
4th May 12 05:05

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G Man

Sorry I failed to mention that the "Neighbour" who I and my civil partner witnessed persons checking out his expensive mountain bike chained to the back of his VW Camper and made me out to be some kind of Pervert for giving him our concerns of a potential theft of his bike, later we found out is a West Yorkshire Plain clothed police officer, and the incident of being stopped for apparently looking like a "Armed Robber" was again the West Yorkshire police. Then we wonder why there is a under reporting of Crimes against the Gay community ?
1st May 12 12:05

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G Man

At approximately 6:45 PM (30 April 2012) in broad daylight while innocently engaged in my pathetic but courageous attempt to exercise, while Joggers and even walkers dashing past me I was stopped by two police, in their arrest van on a public highway path, not by any homes, and a popular exercise rout used by many.

I was dressed in a complete sweat suit as it helps alleviate my considerable pain throughout my body, this and the use of pain medication I hobbled with walking stick packed on a Public path on my third lap around.

The two officers stated and I quote “We’re had hundreds of phone call reports of an armed robber”! I politely stated in complete surprise, “What me!?” and pointed out that I was wearing a sweat suit etc. I politely informed these officers that “This is my human right and I would report this…” I was innocently engaged in broad daylight on a public path with others citizens who were busy exercising and yet I am now labelled an “Armed robber!”

Further last year October / November 2011 concerned with my Gay partner who I am civil partnered with witnessed in the dark some twenty year olds showing particular interest in a neighbours expensive mountain bike then chained to the back of his VW camper while parked up the street. I informed this neighbour (Number Town Street) of our concerns.

The shocked response from this neighbour was “Why have you been peeking out of your windows looking at young people?” In which I replied “You know our windows are always covered and any one would be hard pushed to look 150 yards up the street, through a construction fence from any window, and I am only expressing our concerns while being a good neighbour”.

I feel completely vilified for innocently going about my business in broad daylight, while in such a multi cultured society as Leeds / Bradford area it is extraordinary that a person dressed as I was in a sweat suit with a walking stick packed should be described and stopped and questioned as a “Armed robber” and forced to give my name and address. I asked politely was that all officer, they let me go and I left feeling harassed and my human rights violated.
1st May 12 12:05

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Yes yes

Finally the truth about the Mark Duggan shooting !
The police officer in white seen on the phone footage looks to be planting something at the scene - another police fit up !!!!!
Justice for Mark !!!
And the pigs ---- prison time ........And Mrs may issue body cameras as standard .
27th Apr 12 10:04

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The dark one

Freddie your mxm

A police officer has been found guilty of assaulting a teenage passenger after stopping the vehicle's driver for using a mobile phone.

Again an example of misconduct !BBC NEWS
10th Mar 12 11:03

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Freddie

What a load of total and utter nonsense.
2nd Mar 12 08:03

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Corrupt

They steal , r4pe, beat people up & shoot people as and when they feel !
More Laws to protect people from malicious behaviour of the Police !
And number 10 should take full responsibility if they get it wrong -the courts should always considers an officers past ( maybe he / she has got a grey history )
1st Mar 12 10:03

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justice-4-all

Reminds me of a scene in the Al Pacino version of "Scarface".
22nd Feb 12 04:02

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I hate pigs that fly

Lying, conniving, cheating PIGS! Think they can bullshittttte their way out of anything.
21st Feb 12 10:02

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Corrupt

Simple answer ..... Get a small watch phone / recorder & hit the record button if anything happens - cheap as chips on eBay & then contact Mr Khan & watch them run !
They are a bunch of crooks in uniform & the courts are more aware now then ever !
Sue the P.....! & complain to Mrs May too .....
That Hogan chap thinks he's the man - well tell us the truth about Mark Duggan & why another innocent man was shoot ?
13th Feb 12 11:02

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Bronwyn

I agree strongly with you...I respected the police until similar things have been happening to my family..my son as a result of the police harassing him and being accessed of something he did not do, proceeding into the kitchen and grab a knife and cut his wrist in front of them, they then tried to get him for another crime that turned out he was in hospital at the time we still had to go to court though, they consistently cone to our house for stupid things, they arrested him for sending a text, the police officer tried to get in the house I put my arm out and he crabbed it and started assaulting me I ended up with bruising I also made a complaint which was dropped by police lawyers as they said he was will within his right to do that, this was over a text sent. I havre now installed fencing around property and security doors plus have 3to dogs not to stop burglars but the police...
6th Feb 12 11:02

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Stalag 14

"But the Daily Mail will always be shite."
All newspapers are shite, but the Daily Mail is a better class of shite!
5th Feb 12 07:02

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Oi

But the Daily Mail will always be shite.

Keep smiling Stalagmite ;-)
5th Feb 12 05:02

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Stalag 14

If users have to create an account to post that will be the death of this site as I, and no doubt many others, cannot be bothered with joining something that is, at the end of the day, just an interesting diversion.

You will finish up with a few regular members only......hmmm.... you seem to have that already, and no input from passers-by.

As for moderation, that would work if you can handle the work load.

The beauty of this site is the instant post you get and, sometimes, the instant reply (insult); all spontaneity would disappear.
5th Feb 12 04:02

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MikeP

OPEN EMAIL TO KENNY (SITE ADMIN)
Hi Kenny

If I understand correctly you would define the user name based on the Gmail address and associate it to that address. Therefore if MikeP was associated to my Gmail account, it would only show MikeP and not the full address, and it would prevent anyone else from posting as MikeP (of course they could do so as Mike P or Mike_P and so on).

As far as anonymous or unregistered comments go, you might drive people away from the site if they are forced to use or create an account in order to post, but the positive aspect would be that it would prevent a lot of the drivel, spam, and scams which are posted. You could probably eliminate the two latter problems by blocking IP addresses in the ranges that correspond to countries such as NG, CN, RU, those probably being the worst offenders.

If you are forced to approve anon/unregistered comments it would create a lot of extra work for you, so on the basis that only a minority would be offensive it might be better to apply 'after the event' moderation.

Best regards

Mike
5th Feb 12 01:02

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Boblet

Not to date Kenny. We will have to see how things go, I am sure these issues will be resolved in the fullness of time
3rd Feb 12 11:02

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Kenny (Site Admin)

+MikeP Open to debate on that one. Had considered "Mike P", taking the firstname and first character of surname from your profile name. Alternatively, I could do that and allow the user to override this with a "claimed" username on this site. By the way the only reason for using OAuth is simply to make easier to have an identity on here without the requirement of maintaining yet another username and password.

+Boblet Do you use any other services such as Twitter, Facebook, Yahoo, Live etc.?

Thoughts on the anonymous (or unregistered) comments - should they continue as is, or should they wait for approval?
3rd Feb 12 10:02

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Boblet

As I have said in previous posts admin, I am not a joiner. I do not have a google account but I have google as my home page. I have G.O.T.W. in my favs simple. All I can see on google is how to change your password. I have not got a password, so it looks like curtains for me.
2nd Feb 12 10:02

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MikeP

Thanks Kenny, that's a step forward.

A question about posting with a Google account. If, hypothetically, my Google email address is mikeprick@gmail.com (as many would like to think) what name will appear on my postings?
2nd Feb 12 09:02

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Kenny (Site Admin)

I have a couple of days off work at the end of next week at which point I'll put in place a new system for posting comments.

You will be able to continue to post comments anonymously with just a nickname as before, however they will require approval before appearing. Alternatively, post using your Google account and comments will appear straight away. Later on I will expand this to allow the use of a Twitter account. This will work in a similar fashion to existing forums around the Internet that use a system called Disqus, only it will be limited to Google accounts initially and no Facebook.

A bit of background info on this, it uses a system called OAuth and the reason I'll be doing it this way is so that there isn't another username and password to remember. By default, it will pick up your Firstname, surname first initial and a small thumbnail of your profile picture (if you have one).

Comments and feedback on this idea would be welcome.
2nd Feb 12 08:02

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Freddie

No, of course it will never stop that type of thing but it would address some of the troll posts on here that are becoming all too frequent now.
I am aware that I have on occasions been less than complimentary to you on here because you´ve deserved it but I have never posted anything that would suggest you are a kiddy fiddler or anything like that and I never would. For me, there is little worse than being called something like that or having posts put on under your own regular user name that imply you are that way inclined. I just want to see an end to that. I accept it will not stop people calling me it but it would stop those suggestions being attributed to me and others on here that have had it.

That is the main reason I would like to see it brought in here.

No doubt this post will attract a fair share of exactly that type of post now but it is a risk I am aware of.
2nd Feb 12 05:02

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Boblet

FFFreddie I enjoy having a gripe. I am not a joiner of committee's or clubs etc. I like the freedom of GOTW. If I bring down insults on myself I examine those insults with a view to becoming a better person. Will a login system stop you insulting me? or mikep bullying women posters?
1st Feb 12 12:02

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Freddie

What is your issue with having a login noblet? Why are you so against it?
31st Jan 12 06:01

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Boblet

Called in to Pachyderm House yesterday, but was disappointed. mikep, freddie or fredE where not in
31st Jan 12 12:01

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The troll hunter

Freddie - 30-Jan-12 18:03 
LOOK THE POLICE ARE UPTO NO GOOD - they make all these tv shows to gain support & show the public what a good job they are doing ,they take the p155 as a result of NO10 giving then too much power !
Get the public more involved & roll out body cameras & let's see if the continue taking the piss - And get rid of the IPCC and set up a new company made up of local people & let them review case of complaint .
I'm sure things will improve when they know their jobs will be on the line & maybe cover ups will be in the past .
31st Jan 12 08:01

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Boblet

Also, if people have to register with an email address, there is some measure of accountability - although I realise many will just make up email addresses for the purpose and not use an account in their own name.
Yet another example of mikeP answering himself, the sad part is he thinks that it is rhetoric.
30th Jan 12 11:01

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MikeP

"it looks like we have another instance of "troll poster". The post below wasn't by me. This is why we need the login system.
Freddie - 30-Jan-12 18:01 "

May I add my voice to this comment from Freddie?

This is going to continue to happen. Kenny we do need a login system. I appreciate it's extra work for you and you're busy, but I think it's important. Also, if people have to register with an email address, there is some measure of accountability - although I realise many will just make up email addresses for the purpose and not use an account in their own name.

If it drives people away who don't want to be accountable to that minor degree, then that is probably better for all concerned, it will keep the site free of those with a mental age of of 10 and below, scammers, spammers, and other time-wasters.
30th Jan 12 07:01

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Freddie

Corrupt wrote:-
"We must remember you & I pay their wages"

Don't you think they pay tax too! Maybe they pay their own wages.
30th Jan 12 06:01

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Freddie

MikeP.....it looks like we have another instance of "troll poster". The post below wasn't by me. This is why we need the login system.
30th Jan 12 06:01

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Claim where's there is blame

ON THE NEWS TODAY - A POLICE OFFICER HAS BEEN TAKING IN FOR QUESTIONING ABOUT CASH PAYMENTS FROM SUN NEWS PAPER ????
So this would be another way for them to raise cash in these hard times , sell malicious stories !
IT'S ABOUT TIME WE AS THE PUBLIC HAVE MORE CONTROL OF THESE CORRUPT INDIVIDUALS
30th Jan 12 09:01

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MikeP

It's called a rhetorical question, Freddie.
30th Jan 12 09:01

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Freddie

I would question which strata of society those of you posting this anti-police rhetoric are from. I think from your demonstrated level of literacy, it's quite obvious

Please tell, why are you questioning something that is quite obvious?
30th Jan 12 01:01

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Corrupt

MIKE DA P.... P
No one fears the police with so much CCTV & camera phones people feel safe - good example the Ian Tomlinson footage .
We must remember you & I pay their wages and we want them to be honest & do a good job , more community work , talking to young people and crossing those bridges first !
By going around mob handed - stop & searches with no reason , we'll that takes the pi55.
Just wait and see the Mark Duggan story will be out soon & I'm sure it was another messup !
29th Jan 12 11:01

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Boblet

Can you be more specific Mikep? I do know a few bent coppers hence my low opinion of them. Do they count as lower strata? I do not fear anybody, least of all the police. I am law abiding to a fault. Your ridiculous claims, reference the likes of me can only do further damage to your already tarnished reputation on G.O.T.W. Is this what you want? If so you will never be comfortably at any level in British society or indeed Mrs Miggins Pie Shoppe.
29th Jan 12 09:01

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MikeP

In my experience, it is people from the lower strata of society, or those associated with them, who do not trust , or who fear, the police. Decent law-abiding people have no problem with the authorities.

I would question which strata of society those of you posting this anti-police rhetoric are from. I think from your demonstrated level of literacy, it's quite obvious.
29th Jan 12 08:01

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Corrupt

MikeP - 28-Jan-12 17:32 
More crap from you !Bottom line people do not trust the police & even the courts are clocking onto their stories -it's simple body cameras & the sack for any dodgy stuff they get upto .
They drive around in their cars that we pay for & give it the large with their TV shows etc etc ...Like I always say if they do you wrong get intouch with IKP or HJA in London and they will s... Bricks .
And the new
head of the police that Hogan Hoew or whatever - he comes on TV with big plans , start by working with the community & cross them bridges first before you go out mob handed !
The ipcc have had tons of complaints about & more now then ever .
29th Jan 12 04:01

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Boblet

The same tripe from the same sources. We British do not have to be thankful for what we have. We have earned it with blood. Our forefathers took on the World including Napoleon, Mussolini & Hitler. We do not just live here accepting graft & corruption, as they do in the countries that immigrants flee from. We stand & fight anyone who endangers that freedom. We do not need permission to speak. At the moment we are in a bit of a pickle with immigration but believe me the lion can still fight for what is right. Anybody who thinks we are allowed to speak is wrong. We will speak because we will have it no other way. It is called backbone.
28th Jan 12 07:01

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MikeP

You should be thankful that you live in a country where police corruption is uncovered, dealt with and publicised, and where you are allowed to speak about it without fear of reprisal.
28th Jan 12 05:01

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Corrupt

A 29-year-old serving police officer was arrested at his place of work in central London on suspicion of corruption and misconduct in public office. The officer, of the Met's territorial policing unit, is the second police officer to be arrested under the Operation Elveden investigation.

A BIG SHOUT GOING OUT TO MIKE P!!!!
IT'S CALLED CASH FOR STORIES - ££££££
28th Jan 12 12:01

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WHERE THERE IS BLAME - CLAIM

Missing documents which caused the collapse of a multi-million pound police corruption trial have been discovered by investigators - despite claims they were shredded.
Ten people, including eight former police officers, were accused of fabricating a case which led to the wrongful jailing of three innocent men for the 1988 murder of prostitute Lynette White.

MORE CORRUPTION.....
27th Jan 12 05:01

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Fed up of them

Jocelyn Cockburn @ HJA she is amazing at dealing with corrupt officers of the law - she is amazing & knows her stuff .
Watch out - watch out Jocelyn is about & watch the filth run run run!!!!!!
Lies have very short legs & the police they are crawling at the mo !
26th Jan 12 09:01

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Injustice

CORRECT MR KHAN IS THE MAN & THE OTHER IS A LADY AT HODGE ALLEN IN EUSTON LONDON.
they are like pitbulls when you let them loose .......& the police know how keen they are to turn them upside down ,I've used IKP which is Mr Khans firm & they are excellent - put a corrupt officer in her place by asking one simple question "DID YOU VIEW THE CCTV ?"and she s!!! Bricks , Khan was aware of 10 cameras at the location where this crime was suppose to have happend & on viewing the CCTV it was amazing as I wasn't even there !!!
And the person that made the allegation well he wasn't even there !!!!!!!
And now I have a claim for malicious prosecution !!!
25th Jan 12 11:01

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Corrupt Po-LICE infestation killing this great Britain

@DT - 22-Jan-12 10:08 How awful for you! I've suffered police harassment myself. I would suggest NOT to feel intimidated. They're prolonging their vicious actions as you're reacting and satisfying their sick ego. Either ignore the b'stards when in your presence or laugh at them, laugh with them. Offer them a (soft) drink, followed by a hard and long stare. Keep your behaviour unpredictable. This should unsettle them!! Simultaneously and discreetly seek a good lawyer (someone here has already mentioned Mr Khan) who is adept at dealing with corrupt Police. Just don't expect quick results......this will be a long and slow process. Meanwhile keep yourself pre-occupied with things that make you happy. I acknowledge you are disabled, but you don't mention how........Keep your mind busy with positive thoughts!! Best wishes.
25th Jan 12 12:01

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Freddie

"Your perceived successful career is you posturing, it added nothing & demonstrated nothing to the thread whatsoever, that was my point."

Utter rubbish, but think what you like if it makes you feel better. At least have the balls to put a name after your post!

As regards the other post, well you don't even deserve a response. What you deserve is to have your ISP blocked.
24th Jan 12 08:01

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Anon

Your perceived successful career is you posturing, it added nothing & demonstrated nothing to the thread whatsoever, that was my point.
24th Jan 12 06:01

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Freddie

Yes, bully for me!

The point was to demonstrate that somebody shouldn't be judged by the actions of family members. Just like your family shouldn't be judged because of you, or vice versa. It was nothing more than that so I don't see the need for your childish comment. You added nothing to the thread so don't bother in future if that is the sum of your contribution.
24th Jan 12 06:01

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Anon

"I've never been out of work and in fact have a very succesful career" Bully for you Freddie
24th Jan 12 03:01

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MikeP

"A woman whose sister is a serving police officer and mother is a 999 call handler has been charged with looting a television from Argos during last week’s riots in London."

And your point is what precisely (if there is one)?
24th Jan 12 02:01

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Freddie

If there was ever living proof that you can pick your friends but not your family this person is it. It isn't fair to criticise her family for her actions, they've done nothing wrong and it does not make her sister any less a good copper now than before her sister was exposed as a thief.
Both of my sisters are dole sroungers whereas I've never been out of work and in fact have a very succesful career. I shouldn't be judged by their actions and neither should this woman's sister or mother. I think it is right that her actions have been exposed but I don't see the need to tarnish anyone elses reputation in the process of doing so.
24th Jan 12 12:01

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Boblet

What is your point P!!!!? I am on record as not being a police lover. I am pleased that her actions have been publicised rather than covered up, because of her having a sister & mother in the police force.
24th Jan 12 11:01

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MIKE P THE P!!!!

A woman whose sister is a serving police officer and mother is a 999 call handler has been charged with looting a television from Argos during last week’s riots in London.

Laura Foley, 22, has appeared in court charged with looting from the store in Croydon, south east London, last Monday.

Her sister, Lisa Foley, 28, is a Metropolitan Police constable who works from Deptford police station. While their mother, Michelle, 46, is a civilian communications officer for the same police force.


MIKE P -MIKE P -MIKE P - BUNCH OF CROOKS WITH BADGES -THEY ARE SUPPOSE TO BE SETTING AN EXAMPLE ?
THIS IS NOT WHAT THE PUBLIC WANT TO HEAR !
24th Jan 12 08:01

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Back up

Thanks - body cameras would stop an officer being rude , stealing , punching someone , using heavy handed tactics & would always help both parties in telling the Truth ,A criminal would be more comfortable knowing a camera would record the officers behaviour & their own !
Let's roll out body cameras & get an honest police force .
Also the CPS should have someone monitor there motives - they are anothe bunch of crooks !
MALICIOUS PROSECUTIONS MUST COME TO AN END .
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MikeP wrote
"All police should be armed, and should be allowed to stop and search on suspicion."

Mike, they already have that right under section 1 of PACE.

I'm not against the police wearing body cameras. I'm quite confident that it would work in their favour more often than it would work against them. These clever defence lawyers would have a hard time getting their scr*te client off in the face of video evidence! If it also removes the bad coppers as well then all the better. Having worked with the police I know the bad ones are a real minority but let's get rid of them completely. If cameras are the answer I'm all for it, so long as the public don't cry foul when it works against them.
23rd Jan 12 06:01

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MikeP - 23-Jan-12 11:38 
You waster - we as the public know nothing about Mark Duggan !Just what the press are paid to tell us ! And like it or not the police & the press tell lots of lies £££ for stories !!!!
John Charles was he a criminal ????? Why was he shoot ???
SIMPLE THE POLICE SHOULD WEAR BODY CAMERAS & SHOULD BE HELD TO ACCOUNT WHEN THEY GET IT WRONG !
BUNCH OF CROOKS IN UNIFORM !!!!
EVERYONE TIME TO SILENCE MIKE THE P....K P!!
23rd Jan 12 06:01

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MikeP

"We still haven't been told about the Mark Duggan shooting "

Mark Duggan, oh yes, that paragon of virtue, upstanding citizen, fine example for people to follow, never done a thing wrong. My heart bleeds.

All police should be armed, and should be allowed to stop and search on suspicion. And as more crimes proportionately are committed by young black males than any other sector of the community, they should target young black males when they do stop and search.

Sadly, it won't happen because the pinkos will bleat 'racism'.
23rd Jan 12 11:01

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The word has spoken

Also when you do get to record what those rotten cxxxx are saying - send a copy to Simon Ford at Blast studios .Hes the guy behind coppers that TV programme created to show they they are the victims & they get a hard time !LOL
Remember these people are rotten & have no respect for you or the law , they bend & twist the truth in their favour for a living , but recently even the courts don't believe them !! Many judges doubt their statements .Its a shame that we live amongst such a corrupt bunch of individuals . We still haven't been told about the Mark Duggan shooting ????COVER UP????
23rd Jan 12 10:01

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THE WORD

SIMPLE - Get a micro recording device from eBay like a watch recorder & press record every time they are in your face . And then contact a good Law firm , maybe a certain Mr Khan or Hodge Alan in London . And involve the local Mp & a letter to that Mrs May .And that should put a stop to their behaviour . Recently the police have let the public down , but remember where there is blame - there is a claim !
Like I've said all along BODY CAMERAS a must for all police officers dealing with the public .
23rd Jan 12 06:01

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Freddie

Now that's what I call a long sentence.

What is the ongoing investigation?
22nd Jan 12 12:01

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hi all fellow intimidated people , i moved to another area some years ago as i met a lady whome i fell in love with well its almost 12 years ive been with this lady 11 years of marriage , we were together for a year before we decided to become a permament couple i should say im still head over heels in love with this lady , ive never been involved with the police until 2008 when a bent coppa made serious untrue allegations against me which out of the blue split my wife me and my kids up and my home which we owned the police have deliberatly put stuff on the pnc to cause me trouble which gets me stoped on a regular basis saw them lastnight watching my home yet againe on 5th december 2011 at 3.45pm cid turned up at my home took my wife in the kitchen tryed intimidateing her in to saying i was misstreating her so they could lock me up she refused saying its not true i heard them the male cid officer was a bully the female kept quiet , then 6th december 18.30pm uniform came out in a marked car banged on the door then said do you live alone i replied stop messing me about you know who i live with he then said he was here to c my wife same againe bullying my wife to make serious false allegations against me she refused the coppa was not happy he came out of the kitchen i had words with him ans told him i was sick of the harrassment he started laughing and said theres no harrassment by the police he began calling me various names in front of my wife and said to me your solicitor cant stop us we dont care about him while laughing i will come out here when i want as many times as i want day or night this is the part of an on going complaint i wont back down to them they know who they are all this is as they got my ex wife whome i divorced to go to court and commit pergury under oath so there trying there best to keep things quiet is there no justice out there its now 2012 and still being persecuted and im Disabled can anyone help please ty
22nd Jan 12 10:01

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When you say "They barged into my cell and wrestled me to the floor banging my head on the way, putting my left arm so far up my back they dislocated my shoulder", it is not only the Police who can act like this. When a member of the public makes a citizen's arrest they could inadvertently breaking an arm bone.
23rd Sep 11 05:09

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No trust

Guys - why does the IPCC want to release information on the David Duggan case in December ? To help cover up the shooting of an innocent man ????
The police have proven once again - nobody should trust what is a corrupt organisation to the core !
22nd Sep 11 11:09

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fed up with being harassed

What is 'Police' idea of recruitment in Luton?

Harass, harass and harass ordinary citizens.

No laughing matter.
21st Sep 11 11:09

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Freddie

Oh, and I should point out. It's PCSO not PSCO!

And for the record, you've probably seen it once, no more. On the other hand, you good honest deserving members of the public have never done anything like it. I honestly cannot recall ever seeing anything in a newspaper about a member of the public "selling green". What a good bunch you are!

Of course, if you all behaved yourselves there would be no need for the police would there!
19th Sep 11 01:09

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Freddie

That's what I like to see. A well constructed response that relates directly back to my post and offers a counter opinion.

Oh sorry, for a minute there I thought it had been posted by an intelligent person!

I'm glad you have such a strong opinion. It speaks volumes. Don't forget what number to ring when you want them!
19th Sep 11 01:09

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get a life freddie

Freddie - 1 WTF -the police are corrupt ,bunch of twits in uniform !to steel legally you become a police officer.how many times have we seen it in the media "psco selling green?"
officer takes a cash bribe??????
even rents out his council house !!!
THEFTS AT A POLICE POLICE RAID -ITEMS MISSING!!!!!!
rapes , shootings,beating people up,using force ,dragging people in custody!!!!
17th Sep 11 11:09

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Freddie

"at trial a police officers history should be available ! So the jury & judge are just as much aware of the officers dodgy history !"

This is one thing that no reasonable or sane person could ever agree to. It would be an outrage if this were allowed to happen. An offenders 'previous' is not allowed to be revealed in court until after the verdict has been delivered. If they enjoy this privilege then the prosecuting authority should have the right to it as well.

Personally I would be happy to see both parties 'previous' revealed during the trial (provided it is done in the privacy of the jury room and not the open courtroom). I suspect it would result in far more convictions than acquittals.
16th Sep 11 07:09

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Balln

The Mark Duggan case is another police cover in the making - we are all fed up of the police and their malicious lies , that cost lives ! Any officer caught hiding the truth should be sent down .
Let's see if PM plays fair ?
The police are a dirty bunch of crooks & the public know this .
And more officers should be made to wear body cameras & at trial a police officers history should be available ! So the jury & judge are just as much aware of the officers dodgy history !
9th Sep 11 03:09

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Wasters

Police corruption - is finally in the spot light more then ever & as for Mr Milliband trying to help their funding situation well MIND YOUR BUSINESS was I not your people in office when John Charles got shot ?
Bring on cuts & body cameras !!!!!!!!!
And keep alll their p45 to hand .
1st Sep 11 11:09

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tick tock

pigs sit on their a-r-s-e facebooking everyday and lazy feckers got kick up their fat a-r-s-e from teenage rioters.
23rd Aug 11 11:08

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Freddie

What a load of absolute rubbish! Honestly, how do people expect anyone to velieve that kind of stuff! The police bug your bedroom! What did they do? Park across the road in a pretend "pest control" van wearing boiler suits to look like workmen. Then they came in and did the evil deed! Or was it more like the Soprano's and they had a team of people on radios monitoring your movements whilst a covert team went in and planted the bugs!

Your post was the best laugh I've had in ages!

Here's a tip...You're watching too much telly!
23rd Aug 11 08:08

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Sick and perverted police need

"I know a butcher that takes drugs. It doesn't mean all butchers are druggies and it doesn't mean all butchers should be tarred with the same brush. Unfortunately when you get one crap policeman the public are only too happy to do exactly that!".......freddie - 22 August 11

@ Freddie. Only butchers do not have powers to abuse. They do not have access to confidential information or consider planting false information in Police National Database to ruin someone's life. You don't get one butcher ringing all the butchers in UK spreading lies demanding harassment; making a person's life, livelihood difficult or harassing them to the point of mental breakdown. But your local Police force does, and they encourage their friends in other forces to do so too. Is it any wonder people are distrustful of Police? Fact is, once you complain of harassment to your local nick - they turn against you or accuse you of involvement in one crime or another. You can't win; either suffer in silence or fight back and be harassed even more.

Worse still, if you're a woman and you fight back, they'll do everything possible to annihilate you. Bugging my bedroom is not clever it's pathetic. It doesn't frighten me, it doesn't embarrass so they can enjoy their view. They can give me all the hints they like.....I don't give a shite anymore.

Police are perverts, power abusing perverts.
22nd Aug 11 10:08

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freddie

Grumpy....jellybean said he got fined! I think you'll find that is considered to be a criminal conviction. Or was the judge/magistrate fining the innocent too that day!
I've also worked with a lot of police and have got to know them well over the years. On the whole they are honest people, no different to any other profession. Unfortunately it is a small minority that let them down. I know a butcher that takes drugs. It doesn't mean all butchers are druggies and it doesn't mean all butchers should be tarred with the same brush. Unfortunately when you get one crap policeman the public are only too happy to do exactly that!
22nd Aug 11 09:08

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Grrumpy xx

I should like to put Freddie and Jellybean right, based on their posts below.

Freddie, you make out that bad policing is a 'rotten apple' syndrome - with a few officers tarnishing the reputation of their entire force. Academics have shown time and again that it is police culture that is to blame for bad police practice - not rotten individuals: the pressure to conform, cut corners, the degree of automony police have on the ground to construct facts not investigate them, and government pressures to meet targets don't help either. It's not down to individuals being mean and nasty power grabbers who like to abuse their authority becuase it is their nature to be like that. Police get 'drawn' into bad practice because of peer pressure within the force even when they start out with good intentions. It's not a choice from power hungry rookies who have a maladjusted personality and spoil it for the rest of them. If that were the case, then the IPCC would not need to exist and if it did you would see far more cases of officer abuses in the media. The IPCC, just like its forerunner, the PCA, is as bas as cop culture itself. They are there to protect police from the effects of cop culture -unless it acts in their interests not to do so.

Jellybean, Freddie is wrong is what he said to you about your Conditional Discharge. For one thing a CD is NOT a recorded conviction at all. According to the law on sentencing, which underpins CD's, they are 'vitiation of guilt' and only count as a conviction on the date of disposal for the benefit of courts and police. That's why they attract no penalty and your offence may only be re-sentenced with a penalty attached if you re-offend within the probationary period set down by the court for yoru CD (usually 1-3 years). Therefore, you needn't mention your CD to anyone at any time if anyone asks you if you have a conviction. You don't have to wait until the probationary period has expired like you would if you'd been handed a recorded conviction, usually with a penalty attached. Therefore, CD's aren't 'spent' as Freddie claims. Only recorded convictions are 'spent', if they qualify for being spent - and not all convictions do, which may. But it is possible that certain types of employer or organisations that need to carry out advanced security checks and sit outside the Rehab of Offenders Act' 1974 may ask you if you've ever been found guilty of an offence or have any 'spent' convictions rather than just ask you if you have any convictions. If so, you will need to say yes to that question. Otherwise, it's no - right from day 1 of the sentence. If that were not the case, you may as well have a recorded conviction because the CD would be meaningless. A CD is only issued when mitigation is very, very strong; the courts believed you are not personally culpable but you couldn't dismantle the prosecution's case effectively enough to be acquitted; the offence is very minor / trivial; or the courts consider your offence to be the result of an unusual or one off problem that is unlikely to be repeated. Recorded convictions are never issued on that basis, although it is possible to be awarded a very low sentence - a bind over (for assault based charges) or an absolute discharge or fine - but only if you plead guilty first of all. Cautions, which aren't convictions, are also based on admitting guilt. Some courts give CD's for guilty pleas too. I can't understand why, having said that, but I guess the same principle applies as it does for contested cases - it was a minor offence but the court decided that no penalty applies at that point but it may do if you re-offend. Personally, I would consider CD's only to be suitable in contested cases, not guilty pleas.
21st Aug 11 12:08

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Grumpy xx

I agree with some of the sentiments below. I am an ex police officer myself, some 30 years ago and with a longstanding history of the criminal justice system on the right side of the law academically, professionally and voluntarily spanning 16 years or so. You don't have to be black, poor or dispossessed to be maltreated by police, although I would say that they do bear the brunt of police malpractice and harassment. I am white, female and a 'so called' middle class professional and police had abused me too. Like some of you I would never, ever allow police into my flat or be alone with them at all unless I was running a tape recorder or had a witness present. I simply don't trust them at all. Not anymore.
20th Aug 11 11:08

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The truth

???- you're correct , I'm sure there is more to the Mark story .
Thugs in uniform I like it !!
I'm sure the IPCC will help the police cover it up !
16th Aug 11 06:08

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???

Why did thugs-in-uniform bump off Mark Duggan? Protecting their criminal selves and friends before Duggan spoke?
10th Aug 11 12:08

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GET RID

Finally -its all out the police are are a bunch of corrupt twits! a short while ago they were asking Mrs May for cash ? They already have lots of cash from Rupert M! The goverment should sack all officers involved & a police officers bank account should be kept an eye on ,they take bribes ,fit people up,steal things on raids & lie in court!
BRING THE CUTS ON FAST MRS MAY !
28th Jul 11 03:07

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get rid of stalking police

Q. What is Police speciality?
A. Harassing single women covertly. They are nothing but cowards.
24th Jul 11 11:07

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Max

Police dont give a $%#? if there s no blood anywhere, and if they re the one spilling it, they just dont give a ?%$# at all. You can try getting help from a lawyer, but be warned, there are government spies that pretends to be lawyers, they re buyeable bitches that will hear everything you tell them and may use that against you, instead of helping you. So watch out guys. Sometimes you cannot trust anyone that s part of the law, and you can only form your own mafia and gather proof by yourselves. Remember that the law will be forced to be applied, with sufficient proof.
20th Jul 11 02:07

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About time

Way too much power & they abuse it! John Charles , Ian Tomlinson & the Northolt man who got a taser (age 82) . Time for mrs may to put body cameras on all police officers - sack any officer who breaks the law .
The public have no faith in what is a gang of bullies in uniform !
12th Jul 11 01:07

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Done

The "bomber" that got his brains blasted out with four dum-dum bullets at point blank was dressed in a T shirt.

The police lied constantly about everything. All the witness statements did not corroborate.

If he really was a terrorist with a hot bomb, do you believe for one second he would not be armed with a "dead mans switch"? Let go and boom!

No, it was murder, pure and simple. They ki11ed him so they would not be publicly humiliated. Instead, protected.

All coppers who kill on the job are protected.

Name me ONE police incident where a guilty man was shot? You cannot because they are not Judge, jury nor executioner..

oopps! ok, executioners.
7th Jul 11 04:07

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The police should not be trusted ! As for John Charles that was an example of police corruption - anyone who has had dealings with the police will know they are rotten to the core !
Never trust the police ! And the Miss White case is another example !
7th Jul 11 04:07

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it's me

I am disappointed that the metropolitan police are going to get away with what they have done because they have asked IPCC to investigate allegations that corrupt police officers have been selling stories to the newspapers. It is common knowledge that IPCC are there to shield the police while they carry out their corrupt practices.
7th Jul 11 02:07

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Boblet

Freddie you are a fool, I also live in a rural community I have owned horses, dogs, cats, etc. I have even had a pint with the son of a local huntmaster as well as coppers for my sins. I have traversed the country in my canal boat. I have flown across the countryside in a hot air balloon. My criticisms of the police are founded on facts. I am not badgering you man. I just cannot stomach your biased and misguided posts. You try to be authoritative with other posters, feeding them red herrings. I realise that being plod you resent criticism but so what, I will continue pointing out the weaknesses in your blind defence of the police force. Now you have spat your dummy out and resorted to slinging mud, typical, I will stick with facts. I am not as pure as the driven snow, but to date I have no police record. Lots of X coppers have one, some coppers in the job also.
7th Jul 11 02:07

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Freddie

Noblet, you are an insufferable cock of the highest order. My post is both reasonable and non-biased. The assumptions made are perfectly reasonable given that I live in a rural community and am familiar with footpaths across farmland.
Your constant criticism of the police can only lead me to believe that you've been caught doing something you shouldn't and feel aggrieved about it. What did you do Noblet....?
Your badgering of me is just a smoke screen to prevent the other side of your heavily weighted coin being exposed. Get a life and find something more productive to do with your hands whilst browsing the net. I'm sure that's what you spend most of your time doing!
7th Jul 11 08:07

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A concerned mother - 29-Jun-11 18:50 
This looks like a job for a certain Mr Khan from London (IKP solicitors ) contact him & sue !remember the courts don't have as much faith in the police as they before - Ian Tomlinson - Stephen Lawrence - John Charles etc ,We all know they are stich up merchants . They pick who they want to investigate
6th Jul 11 09:07

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Boblet

Well Jellybeen do you feel any better? Now that freddie the Fuzz has clarified things for you? freddie & mikep both have the urge to educate us. It is just waffle. He commences his clarifications by making an assumption, he then continues with guesses, no vertical barriers, how does he know this? He then throws in a few iffs, whilst he defends the actions of the many by blaming a few. How would you like to meet freddie in court? Frightening is it not? All he does is confirm that my low opinion of the police is well founded. They are endemic liars.
6th Jul 11 09:07

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Freddie

It does sound excessive doesn't it. All that grief for such a minor incident!

I will clarify a couple of things for you though. I assume they were walking on public footpaths across the land? If so then you are aware these footpaths exist and that in all likelyhood no vertical boundary segregates them from your land? If these two points are right then you have a legal obligation to control the animal and in honesty it should be kept on a lead and not allowed to roam free. That doesn't excuse what may have transpired but is a valid point. With regard to the 'illegal' use of the PNC, it wasn't! A police officer is officially at work 24/7. An offence was committed and the officer used a resource to discover information about the responsible person for the purposes of crime detection and/or solving. The use of the PNC becomes illegal under the data protection act when it is used for other reasons such as finding out the address of an attractive woman for personal reasons by checking her VIN. Imagine the scenario where the officer had witnessed you commit a serious assault on your land and had took your VIN to trace you. It is exactly the same principal.
Having said that, it all seems a bit excessive for something that could have been resolved on a personal level. Officers that use their position like this when off duty are not liked within the job. You should never hide behind the badge but unfortunately some do! It is on occasions like this that individuals soil the reputation of good honest officers and do the image of the Police no good whatsoever. Also, that fine is huge when you consider what some people get for far more serious things. I never have understood how they come up with the numbers in court. I would urge you not to tarnish all officers based on the actions of this one. You met a bad one and that's unfortunate. As long as there is a human aspect involved you can never be sure that these type of people will not get through the process, regardless of the industry. We see it with doctors, teachers etc. If you met a bad doctor you wouldn't consider all doctors to be bad and you should afford the same privilege to the Police in that respect. Sorry to hear you had a bad experence.
One last thing. Did the court tell you how long it would be until the conviction was 'spent'. Under the rehabilitation of offenders act you do not have to disclose it after a certain period. I don't know how long it would be for this though. Once you pass this date you can truly leave it behind you and move on.
6th Jul 11 01:07

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Jellybean B

I too have been on the receiving end of police lies and consequently now have absolutely no trust in the police whatsoever. They will fabricate things and tamper with evidence to suit their own ends. To try and cut a very long story short, my Jack Russell terrier was out roaming in our fields on the farm where we live and bit an off duty police woman and her son. A witness said that the woman screamed and kicked out at the dog as it went up yapping and suggested that the dog may have just been reacting to what it saw as a threat. The dog bit them both once on the back of the leg then ran off. The skin was punctured on the boy but there was no break in the skin on the woman. No stiches were required. The off duty officer then came up to our house got the reg number off my car and rang the station where she was based and asked the on duty seargent to access the details and got my name and address (she stated this in her version of events by the way.........I know, right!!!!!) I ended up being taken to court got fined £1500 a 12 month conditional discharge and a criminal conviction for life. At the time of the offence, I was at home playing scrabble with my daughter! I was never cautioned, even though a police officer who came weeks later said I was, I never gave a statement and the judge didnt even put a control order on the dog! I accept that what the dog did was wrong even though she was provoked, what I object to is her use illegal use of the PNC and the lies that were told by the officer who came to the house to speak to me. I would have gladly accepted a fine and a telling off but to go to the lengths that she went to was just a sheer waste of taxpayers money. Incidentally, she was also paid out £1200 from my insurance comany. Am I in the wrong here? I just don't trust the police now and thank god that the offence was not one that carried a custodial term as the lies would mean I could have ended up in prison. Unthinkable!
6th Jul 11 09:07

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o.o

you will not find a soilcitor wililng to help you as long as the police keep them on side by selling them details of road traffic accident victims. there is nothing you can do unfortunately.
29th Jun 11 11:06

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Boblet

Concerned Mother, Your son’s involvement with “Silly things in his teens” worries me, would other folk take the same view? I am no lover of the police, as my previous posts will testify. But a mothers love for her son can be totally out of focus. My advice to you & your son would be to keep a low profile for 6months at least. The police are bone idle they will look for an easier target.
29th Jun 11 10:06

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Human Rights not Police Wrongs

@ A concerned mother. Keep a diary of events. If you take the Police to the courts then you have written evidence which is accepted by the courts, as the latter consider it impossible to make up so many negative events. Remember your son will then be able to discuss his negative experiences in detail. Secondly, I hope you've got a lawyer, a bloody good one. Thirdly, get respectable witnesses, pillars of community if possible. Fourthly, go to the local newspapers and tell them your son is being harassed by Police and show them your diary of events. Fifthly, be alert!, if you see a Policeman nearby/Police car, switch your mobile phone camera or voice recorder on and record the conversation!. AND MOST IMPORTANTLY KNOW YOUR RIGHTS. READ LEAFLETS AND EDUCATE YOURSELF THEN THEY CAN'T INTIMIDATE YOU. Good Luck.
29th Jun 11 09:06

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A concerned mother

Having got involved in some silly things in his teens, the police have made a big issue out of targeting him. He has been assaulted on a number of occassions by officers the first being asked to come over to the police car and put his head in. As he did the officer wound up the window and started driving with him trapped by the neck . He has been locked up for nothing after being beaten by five officers who decided to claim he resisted arrest, to which I may add he had around 50 witnesses who saw the whole thing. Recently he has been arrested again 4 times in the last 2 months for just being out at the time of an incident even though the crimes were not even anywhere near where we live. But nothing that deserves that kind of abuse from officers. Last year some cannabis was stolen from a police vehicle and a man was seen running from the scene. All they had to go on was that he was black wearing a track suit. My son was picked up and charged with possession of stolen property. This was waiting to go to court for 6 months but when police realised they could not do him for possession as nothing was found, they decided to change it on the day of court to theft. My son was charged and sent to prison for 5 month even though there was no evidence of anything. We were told that because an officer said he fit the discription they had no reason to doubt it. One night my son jumped by 6 men with bats and brush handles. The police were called by the ambulance crew as he need stitches to a very bad head wound. At the hospital the police told him 'don't think about pressing any charges as we will say you started it'. We have now got to the stage where we don't know who to turn to for help to stop this from happening. The problem is how do you prove what is happening?
29th Jun 11 06:06

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God bless David Cameron

They will say that they shot you because they thought you were pointing a gun at them.
26th Jun 11 11:06

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God bless David Cameron

If the police have fabricated a profile about you that is far from the truth then pointing a mobile phone at them will give them an excuse to carry out their shoot to kill policy. They came under too much scrutiny about the Jean Charles de menezes shooting so they need an excuse from now on and they will create opportunities for you point a mobile phone to film their harrassment so that they may take your life 'legally'. My advice is do not point a mobile phone at them.
26th Jun 11 11:06

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Support Ian Tomlinson

Bottom line - the police pick what leads to follow , if youve had a run in with them before they will shoot round like the world is about to end ! And then start giving the large . My advice when dealing with the police tape & record everything on a mobile phone they are not to be trusted .
And be polite as that recording may help you if the decide to charge you with anything !
You will be shocked at how if they dont follow the pace act - how quick they drop charges !
Remember it's the polices job to prove the charge not yours !
25th Jun 11 07:06

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God bless David Cameron

Bradford police is worse because Bradford is the home of the BNP. So the government is allowing people to defend their properties now but what does that mean for the police when they do not have a legal right to break into someone's home so they can obtain a spare key from the locksmith who changes the lock, they have to rely on burglars to do the breaking in and if they get hurt in the process then it is the police's fault isn't it? David Cameron needs to look more closely at RIPA and restrict it even more. Was the stabbing of the burglar in Manchester recently meant to change David Cameron's mind about allowing people to defend themselves and their property? What about agents who when they have entered foreigners' homes and defecate them then go to the governemtn and say "get rid of the foreigners because they are bringing their diseases into the country and instead of David Cameron saying "right you are, we will have a holocaust to rid this country of foreigners" he says "we will pledge £800 million into vacination for the needy in poorer countries". Sure enough, good is conquering over evil.
25th Jun 11 06:06

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Total 11

Tough luck - the police will suffer cuts ! And as I always say I'm sure they have enough money put away for the rain . How much money goes missing on raids ? How many people have items stolen after the police have searched their house ?Bottom
Line / body cameras , more monitoring & more members of the public to get involved - p45s on the ready .when the boys in blue get it wrong - SACK THEM!
18th Jun 11 04:06

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Anon

Bedfordshire Police are vicious bullies and persistent harassers. Abuse at the expense of taxpayers.
17th Jun 11 11:06

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freddie

Carrot, you miss the point.
I would never underestimate the value of the British Soldiers or their exposure to life threatening situations. My point is that a soldiers life is at risk whenever he/she goes into a combat situation. In between those times whilst at work they are safe. Be it back at their base in the UK or on training exercises etc. A police officer potentially puts their life at risk every single day that they put on their uniform and leave the station. The risk is certainly lower but the frequency of exposure is higher. Yes of course if you're going into a battle with enemy soldiers the likelihood of injury/death is higher but over the career it isn't as frequent.
One of the things that police officers say they like about their job is is that every day brings a new experience. Linked with that is the fact that every day brings a new potential risk.
The fact that a single police officer is ki11ed in the line of duty is an outrage. Imagine the public outcry if it were a nurse or ambulance crew etc.
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Freddie,

371 British soldiers were ki11ed and 1,678 wounded in action in Afghanistan in the last 10 years. This figure was correct up to June 5th and does not include casualties from other conflicts.

(Of course civilians have paid a much greater price but that is a different discussion).

37 police officers have been murdered in the line of duty in the last 20 years in England, Scotland and Wales.
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Freddie

Realist, yes of course we'd all be disappointed if we lost a large chunk of our pension. The point I was trying to make was that this isn't something that is being directed at the police, it's the whole public sector. The Police Federation will always make claims of how badly this will affect the front line and figures of 5000 are not unrealistic. Don't be fooled into thinking that this will be by redundancy though. There may be a few but it really will only be a few. Others will be made up from natural wastage i.e. retirement, resignation etc.
Chris 2. Yes, I stand by that statement. They are a public service and they operate under similar service periods etc. to the armed forces. If anyone thinks its okay for the armed forces but not for the police then they are clearly biased in their viewpoint. They serve the country too and deserve the same benefits. I know people will argue that the armed forces put their lives on the line but then so do the police. In fact, I would suggest they do so more often in some respects. The police therefore deserve an equal standing to the armed forces and I personally believe that an opinion to the contrary shows bias.
16th Jun 11 08:06

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Freddie, you say that "any suggestion otherwise is obviously biased against them".

Why does disagreeing with your viewpoint make a person biased against the police?

People may disagree with you for all kinds of reasons. You are very dogmatic and narrow minded in your outlook -were you a member of the police force by the way?
16th Jun 11 03:06

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Oh, and by the way Freddie, You have just contradicted the police unions statement that up to 5000 front line officers could loose their jobs because of the cuts.
15th Jun 11 07:06

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Freddie, You think so? If I was about to loose a large part of my pension I'd be as mad as hell.
15th Jun 11 07:06

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Freddie

I wouldn't generalise and suggest that all people who complain about the police are 'anti' at all. The fact is though that some people that are 'anti' are celebrating these cuts and changes. Yet there is virtually nothing to celebrate.
The police are big enough to not let it affect them as a whole.
15th Jun 11 07:06

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Complaining about police misconduct does not mean people are anti police. At the police fderation annual conference, Theresa May got a taste of the intimidation they freely hand out on a daily basis to the citizens of this country. They have waged a psychological warfare against foreigners and paying particular attention to foreign single mothers in this country traumatising their children so that they grow up anti English because as long as CCTVs are around and they can track everyone's footsteps, and as long as they know where they people they've instilled a deep hatred within towards this country then they can save themselves from the consequences of their actions. Something needs to be done about it and I hope that David Cameron will not take heed of their lies and do something to stop them before it is too late.
15th Jun 11 03:06

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Early retirement won't be a thing of the past. You can only sign on for a maximum of thirty years. if you join at 17 you're retired at 47. That's life!
In that respect they should be treated no different to the Armed Forces and any suggestion otherwise is obviously biased against them.
In real terms there are not hardly any police jobs at risk. The large majority of the cuts will be absorbed in natural wastage so don't go getting too excited about that either.
With regard to gold plated pensions, well they're being cut across the whole public sector, not just the police. There's nothing particularly to celebrate for the 'anti's' here either.
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You can't blame them for being so angry, bitter and upset when they know that thier jobs are under threat and thier gold plated pensions are going too, also knowing early retirment will soon be a thing of the past. In fact, this also applies to most public sector workers.
14th Jun 11 05:06

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The Police are the Criminals and Gangsters in uniform.
They are very unprofessional and have too many powers to abuse.
I would never trust the Police because they think they are above the law.
Oh, yes we are getting closer to the Police STATE every day.
The public are not safe while the POLICE are about because they like to bully people.
I have no respect for them and would not be a good citizen and help them in any way.
14th Jun 11 12:06

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How can we trust the people that have a track record for corruption - John Charles , Ian Tomlinson , smiley culture etc etc . The list goes on and on , we still don't have answers about Steven Lawrence ?and we all know how that went !look never trust a cop they don't do deals - just want to hit targets & don't mind who suffers along the way .
A bit of advice, anyone who has been let down by the police or treated unfairly get intouch with a good law firm and complain .rotten apples!
22nd Apr 11 08:04

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fed up of police corruption

I think the "people who complain about the police" discussion is barred from the library because of the freedom of information discussion to obtain the list of those to have made complaints to those who are deceased.
21st Apr 11 04:04

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Bad apples ... are seldom brought to justice: no policeman has ever been convicted of murder or manslaughter for a death following police contact, though there have been more than 400 such deaths in the past ten years alone. The IPCC is at best overworked and at worst does not deserve the “I” in its name. ”
—The Economist

It is the general consensus in Bradford that if the police tries to kill you in this town then you don't complain. You don't complain no matter what. I didn't know this because I don't move with people in the underworld but they have a special relationship with the police which means corruption is rife here and even other constabularies when I complain to them about this, don't deny it or defend them. (I have to ring other constabularies to get guidelines to establish if Bradford Police are following correct procedures when I have to deal with them).
20th Apr 11 12:04

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Cops are the same in every country. Most of them are good, some are bad apples, and they will never pay for the crimes they commit. If they excuse themselves by thinking '' we did good before, we can do some selfish deeds here and there '', then judge them the same way they judge us. They re all bad apples until they solve their mafia tendencies.
17th Apr 11 03:04

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Shocking story, Peter. Pity you dropped your complaint. Try googling Iain Gould, a solicitor in Liverpool who specialises in actions against the police. There's a story in the Mail today about him and a woman police wrongly arrested in the Mail today, causing her car to be stolen.
14th Apr 11 08:04

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Bunch of idiots the police . Justice for Ian Tomlinson!!!
And A certain Mr Howard lock him up !
We have all had enough of the police corruption in the Uk.
6th Apr 11 06:04

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Boblet

Hmmm. An answer. Had you posted a bit earlier instead of just lurking, your low opinions of the police might have put a bit of weight on the scales of those posters not impressed by the police.
4th Apr 11 11:04

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Boblet

Hmmmm A very rare thing has happened, I am at a loss for an answer, I can only ask a question. How can two people fundamentally opposed to each other kill a page? genuinely man I do not know what to say.
4th Apr 11 11:04

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can someone help?

i'm harassed by daily and get phone calls similar to things I talk about at home. does anyone know how the police do it? the b%$tards are bullies.
4th Apr 11 11:04

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Freddie and Boblet please stop squabbling the pair of you please. Your comments are killing this page! I just want to say Freddie is a fortunate person having not faced repercussions of informing on a drug dealer. You see in most circumstances should you pass on relevant information to the Police, they either suspect you of involvement and treat you as a criminal or they feel resentful as you've occupied them with real crime which they're too lazy to deal with OR they inform you to the drug dealers with whom they're in business. Now do you see why I say Freddie is lucky?
4th Apr 11 10:04

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Dear me Freddie, bored with me indeed, of you go then. I must admit I did not expect the holes to appear in your vest so early. I agree that the weakness of your argument seemed to be giving you some difficulties, but if the answer to my riddle ever bothers you, you can always come back, I will not think any the less of you. Mind you, come to think of it I am not sure if it is possible for me to think any the less of you.
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I read a private dossier the other day that will soon roll out recruitment of Eastern Europeans for UK police jobs. They will be a separate entity, quite a large corporation, which will be financed initially by the large reduction of UK police officers.

Wave bye-bye to your jobs boys for they are going and not coming back.
4th Apr 11 09:04

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Corporation Guy

I read a private dossier the other day that will soon roll out recruitment of Eastern Europeans for UK police jobs. They will be a separate entity, quite a large corporation, which will be financed initially by the large reduction of UK police officers.

Wave bye-bye to your jobs boys for they are going and not coming back.
4th Apr 11 08:04

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Freddie

To be honest I don't care what it is. I'm getting quite bored with you now. You cannot see that your arguments against them have more holes than a teabag factory and can offer nothing to support them. Un fortunately it is that atitude today that makes their job harder and less able to provide the support that people deserve. Hang your head in shame!
No more from me now, I have other things to do.
4th Apr 11 08:04

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Freddie why can’t I call the police? I will need to call them. If I don’t they will not be able to provide me with a vital piece of information, lets play a game Freddie. What do you think that vital piece of information is?
4th Apr 11 01:04

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Me, niaive? Far from it I'm afraid. I just have the confidence to stand up for myself and be counted. At least I know that when I call the police I won't feel like a hypocrite. There are plenty out there that constantly criticise them but know who to go running to when they want their help. That's a pet hate of mine!
I trust you won't be calling them next time you're burgled then? No point really is there!
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Freddie, I hope your naivety sees you through, your friend in blue (your back up) will move on, they retire early to obscurity these days. The snake will remain, & Frank Castle will get older.
2nd Apr 11 11:04

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Not at all. I saw a dealer selling down my road over a few weeks. I videod him and handed it over to the police. He made the threats whilst inside and our local shift sergeant (a good friend of mine) told me. He offered the help but I got lucky that night when purely by chance I saw him. I was confident he would back down as I know him to be a bigmouth with no back-up.
I'll never be intimidated by these people. I simply won't have it. I have the right to live in a safe environment and I'll report anyone I see doing wrong and I'll stand up to anyone too.
2nd Apr 11 09:04

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Freddie I think you have read a few to many comics “ You helped put someone away ” “The police called around to see you ” “ You met the very person hitching a lift ” “ You fronted him out ” “ He realized it was Al Simmons ” “ He backed down ” Add a bit of music & you have the O K Corral with handbags
2nd Apr 11 09:04

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Freddie

No, it isn't a benefit, it's cowardice. That's my opinion.
I won't tolerate being intimidated by anyone. I was threatened with violence by a criminal that I helped to put away for two years. On his release day the police called to see me to let me know and offered me a panic alarm at home. I declined. I was driving home that night when I saw that very person hitching a lift. I stopped, offered him a lift and when he realised it was me, fronting him out, he backed down. People pray on fear and I won't accept that.
There are other ways of getting things done. See your local MP etc. They have influence even if they are parasites by nature.
Don't ever be afraid, these people nowhere near as tough as you think when you stand up to them.
2nd Apr 11 08:04

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What I mean is not getting beaten up down the line is a benefit,right. what do you think?
2nd Apr 11 04:04

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Sorry Freddie, you wanted specific's.
You help the police then you are publicly required to bring charges against the person who has r@ped robbed or harmed you. In the hope that the person you have brought charges against does not bear a grudge.
2nd Apr 11 04:04

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Freddie I have never dodged anything in my life least of all one of your points. It was you who said your wife worked dark days not me. You spoke of your neighbours not me. Your selective memory brings to mind another critic consigned to my back burner. The reason I wanted a meeting with the top man was that I had got nowhere with anybody else, after my daughter’s car was wrecked outside our house by my neighbour & his thugs, the police did not even attend. I left it wrecked in the road for a month. I admit it caused some embarrassment for my neighbour, unfortunately not for the police. I took photographs of the trainer prints on the bonnet, still nothing. We had meetings in the village hall with other villagers who had problems, the community cop invited the perps along, I say no more. My car was stolen from my present address, guess what I have still not seen a policeman. Or the car for that matter.
2nd Apr 11 04:04

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Dodged the point a bit didn't you. I said about assisting the police, not arranging meetings with the top man! It isn't his/her job to randomly meet with the public, they work on a strategic level, not an operational one. Just like in any business.
You can always tell when somebody is losing a debate. The criticisms become personal to deflect away from the poor debating skills of the threatened party. This is what you are now doing when you make inferences about my homelife and marriage. On the other hand I have felt no such need to do the same.
So I refer you to my earlier point of asking you to give me a single benefit of not helping the police. Don't disappoint me know!
2nd Apr 11 03:04

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Honestly Freddie have you ever studied one of your posts? “Of you go then”. If you speak to your neighbours in that manner you are in deep doodoo. It is little wonder that your wife is on dark days. You do not seem to have spoken to the husband next door yet??? As for assisting the police, that is not an option in my real world. When I tried to arrange an interview with the head of Cheshire police I could not get one. You try it, in fact I challenge you to get an interview with a top copper & I will go with you, I cannot be fairer than that.
2nd Apr 11 01:04

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I'm far from being a spent force. I am well aware that utopia is unnatainable and I've never thought it is. I just wanted to make the point to you that supporting them has much more benefit than not doing so.
There is not one single argument than can be offered, and I challenge you to find one, that says that fighting against the police is more beneficial to society than assisting them. Just show me one but remember, I'm not advocating a police state or any other form of extremism, just
the community and the police working together. Off you go then, prove me wrong!
1st Apr 11 08:04

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Sorry Freddie but your utopian visions lead me to believe you have run out of any credible argument, take a break dear boy. I will put you on the back burner along with another recent spent force.
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Boblet, sadly my friend you are sounding a bit flea bitten. There's nothing wrong with helping the police. In fact, I would suggest it is your duty to help criminals be apprehended. Surely you must be able to see that more you helpbthem catch, the less there are that can affect you?
just imagine it for a minute. All the public pitch in and help the police catch all the wrong doers. Suddenly they have a police service with much less to do and more time to serve them better! What a novel idea! It's a shame that many people in this country, many like yourself, do not have the vision to see how much better things could be. Still, never mind, you'd have nothing more to moan about then would you?
31st Mar 11 09:03

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You again mikep, what do you know of reality? you are at a loss over a turnip, Bless You
30th Mar 11 06:03

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You can call them 'grasses, Coppers Nark. Snake. Stoolie. Quisling. Rat. Squealer. Snitch. Spy. Backstabber. Double crosser', anything you like.

The reality is that they are people who cooperate with the police in an effort to bring criminals to justice. There may well be some who do it out of self-interest or spite, but the end result is the same, that criminals are apprehended. I'm happy with that. Some of you may not be and I would then question your motives.
30th Mar 11 04:03

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There you go again Freddie you ask a question then give the answer. I notice the inevitable back door was left open, “blame the public” You seem to criticize my use of the term “grass” as a euphemism for intelligence. I could use any of the following if you prefer. Coppers Nark. Snake. Stoolie. Quisling. Rat. Squealer. Snitch. Spy. Backstabber. Double crosser. Maybe that is the problem? you see dealing with such scum as the way forward. I for my part believe if you “ Lay down with dogs & you will wake up with fleas”
30th Mar 11 12:03

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Intelligence based policing is indeed the way forward. Grass's as you call them are a very useful tool. Their motives differ from person to person of course but if the average joe in the street kept the police informed more then crime would drop. You could argue that it isn't their place to grass on people, I would disagree. It is the publics responsibility to assist the police in maintaining order. One way of doing so is making them aware of crime so they can deal with it. The solution on each occasion is not always as easy as the public think it is and this is why they sometimes feel the police have failed. Get behind your police service and become a grass. There's nothing wrong with that. It is your civic duty!
30th Mar 11 08:03

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Freddie why do you keep answering your own questions? Maybe if you stopped you might take on board the fact that you brought up the subject of overkill “no one else, you”. You might understand it is not about the police winning. It is about why the public are losing. I do not sit back and criticize for the sake of it. Why are the solutions a long way of? The single step has already been taken albeit at different times, at the risk of repeating my self, my single step was taken when a senior policeman informed me that the police do not investigate crime anymore they rely on intelligence. “Grass’s”
30th Mar 11 01:03

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So what are you saying then? Should the police have left the disruptive people to their devices to protect the innocent? Would they then not have been criticised for doing nothing about the disruptive group? Or did you want them to deploy their infinite numbers to deal with everything? Damned if they do........etc.
You speak of overkill but don't really understand what would constitute overkill. To give you an example. Would ten officers jumping a man with a knife and throwing him to the ground then all wrestling to restrain him seem like overkill to you? It doesn't to me! It seems like safety in numbers reducing the chance of injury being sustained by any officer. They're not there to be hurt by anyone and if they feel safer doing that then that's fine with me. Many people would just see that as ten officers beating up on a person. The police will never win with the British public and yes they do have to shoulder some of the responsibility in this relationship but so do the public. It's not about blaming the public it's about understanding that there are failings on all sides and they won't ever be sorted out whilst one side just sits back, critices at every opportunity and does nothing to help improve things. Do it next time you can and remember that although the solutions are a long way off, every great journey starts with a single step.
29th Mar 11 08:03

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Freddie we are on a different page. Who got the protection? The legal & peaceful protesters where left to protect themselves, the masked usurpers where a separate entity and allowed to run riot, As for overkill when there is overkill I will voice an opinion, until then it is just another red herrings. I am glad to say we have some concurrence on Delroy. You seem to want praise for the solving of an isolated crime, you are not specific enough (Give us a clue)so another red herring, I am referring to hundreds of crimes not one. Sorry mate blaming the public seems a bit desperate, personal experiences dictate my attitude towards the police, not biased opinions or fish,
28th Mar 11 01:03

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The source for the praise of the police was the BBC news website and TV report where the organiser of the protest was seen to speak the words from his own mouth. You say the police were passive. Would you prefer they had waded in with an iron fist or would you criticise them for overkill? 'Damned if you do.....' etc.
As regards Delroy, they didn't exactly cover themselves with glory did they? They cocked up in a big way. Nobody can defend that. I hope you'll be equally complimentary about how they caught a guy for abduction and murder this week too? No, I didn't think so. I guess they were just doing their job and it's the least you would expect from them. No ticks in the 'points for' box regardless of their success then!
The problem with those that constantly criticise the Police is that they begin to loose all credibility after a while. If every failure means they're useless and every success is only to be expected from them, they cannot ever do well. There needs to be some balance, a neutral line. If you set it too high then they can never do well enough to satisfy.
I support the police because I believe without the support of the public their job is 500% harder. I totally accept that they get it wrong at times but they are not helped by the majority of the "I saw/heard/know nothing" brigade who will do nothing to assist them but will quickly jump to complain about their failures. Regardless of how uncomfortable it might feel the public need to step up to the plate and get behind their police service to enable them to work more effectively. Only by doing this will things improve. Only by doing this will crime detection increase. Only by doing this will crime drop and only by doing this will the incompetent/obtuse few get removed from their ranks.
The ball is in your court Great British Public. Are you good enough to meet the challenge or is it easier to sit back and throw stones from the sidelines?
28th Mar 11 11:03

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Freddie sorry for not mentioning it in my last post but I am curious, as indeed other posters may be about your reactions to Delroy?
28th Mar 11 10:03

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Freddie the facts speak for themselves, the police were passive, as for giving me instructions it smacks of X bizzy. Giving orders to others as you bumble along in your blue shirt. Please quote your source for the organizers praise? I honestly did not see any. You will notice I ask politely not order or instruct, it is the civilized way. You are also invited mikep to take a leaf. Bless You
28th Mar 11 10:03

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No. they weren't thugs. they were young people expressing themselves peacefully and using their democratic right to do so. It would have been a breach of their 'yooman rights', as lauded by the bunglers of Brussels, to prevent them from doing so, which is why the police could do nothing. Now in the good old days ..... well, they wouldn't even have got into London!
28th Mar 11 09:03

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Boblet...If a load of thugs hadn't abused the right to protest then the police wouldn't have been needed at all. Why don't you take your crusade to the public and get them to act as decent citizens and stay within the law then we won't need those nasty policemen at all. Then we can all sleep safe knowing that we are not at risk of being subjected to crime.
Even the event organisers have praised the work of the police during the upset in London!
28th Mar 11 08:03

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Boblet

Shops in the West End were attacked and occupied in yesterday's march. Mobs attacked stores including, Anne Summers as well as a bank, not sure what the connection is, people getting stuffed maybe. Shops had given the police plenty of notice about what might happen. They expected action from the police & got zilch.
27th Mar 11 10:03

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Boblet

Well Freddie is your head still in the sand? or does 500 break ins, rapes, etc, of the elderly by a certain Delroy, as the police blundered along, affect your opinion of our uniformed Saints & Martyrs?
25th Mar 11 07:03

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The police ahhhhhh what a shame - jobs on the line now GOOD!
Police officers should never be trusted , they give it the large when they appear on TV but in real life a bunch of cowards hiding behind the grey area of the law .
Police officers should all wear body cameras on duty so we can all monitor their behaviour !
And badge numbers should always be visible !
25th Mar 11 07:03

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the police sit in unmarked cars outside properties but their presence is so obvious it's a joke. they stand out like a sore thumb. I cant take them seriously so how can I be intimidated? lol at least the idiots make me laugh!!!!
23rd Mar 11 11:03

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heather

hi there..

yes well I totally understand and feel I have been treated very much the same way.. our house was broken into and we called the police, the police, useless that they are couldnt find any dna.. no finger prints no blood etc at the break in point..

So because they cant find any other info cutting a long story short they are trying to b lame us for being fraudulant... never had run in with police, always been good.. Im just mortified that they are treating us this way... I am registered disabled and im currently very unwell and terrified to leave the house incase the thieves come back... plus unable to due to the stress making my asthma worse..

please help if u no anything more... that could help us
22nd Mar 11 05:03

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boblet

Well Freddie/CLJ you have beaten me. I am rolling over. The police do not deserve their abysmal reputation it is unfair & misguided of me to criticize this wonderful body of men & women, those paragons of virtue struggling against the odds in their under paid, under appreciated, profession. Tesco & Asda do have Judiciary powers; they do fine the public for not parking in the correct places whilst on their car parks & quite rightly so.
I used to deal with a Jock outfit called "Supercool" they made leaky radiator cores for the automotive trade. I used to get complaint after complaint whilst selling their products. Trying to deal with this Jock outfit was similar to discussing the police or the law with you pair. I walked away in the end; I left my stock of their leaky products in the road. Refusing to sell them being the only way left open to me.
The products you pair are pushing are in the road.
18th Mar 11 01:03

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Max

Yep, this kind of attitude makes it so people dont take this seriously. When you have no proof of what you re saying, you absolutely need to say your opinion properly, otherwise a single mistake in your speech makes it pass for a whole lie. The real investigation should be focused on why he did not get treatment at the hospital, because they sure give few sketchy details about this very important point. And his barmaid example isnt a good one, because a barmaid didnt swear to uphold the law and never pretended she was serving good beer. There are much more expectations from the police.
18th Mar 11 01:03

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Freddie, I just googled this case out of curiosity. Christopher Alder died (in 1998) while in custody. Not even the National Civil Rights Movement claim that he was "ki11ed whilst in police custody". They were guilty of ignoring him while he lay dying, but as far as I can see there is no evidence to suggest that they ki11ed him.

This doesn't mean I'm always on the side of the police, by the way. In fact I wouldn't trust many of them as far as I could throw them. They have got to be far too above themselves and seem to view everyone as guilty of something. The wrong kind of attitude has been fostered over the last several years.
18th Mar 11 08:03

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Freddie

Have to say that I haven't seen this incident as I've just got back from abroad (working). If the police are out of order here I won't defend that, I never have.
However, I've said it before and I'll say it again, unless you have been involved with that line of work you simply cannot really understand the police at all. If you had you'd understand why certain things happen the way they do. It doesn't always appear fair etc. but then what else in life does. The bottom line is that if your barmaid keeps serving you bad beer and it doesn't get better then she is just giving you what is being provided by her boss. If there isn't any better beer then she can't offer it to you no matter how good she is at her job.
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Freddie I have just been watching the news & how Christopher Alder was ki11ed whilst in police custody. Disgusted does not even start to cover what I want to say of the police force. I do not expect to hear from you again.
17th Mar 11 06:03

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Bob

There are no problems with overweight cops. They are supposed to represent the population, and a fat cop shouldnt have trouble catching up to an overweight citizen.
15th Mar 11 03:03

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Freddie, I refer specifically to those noticeable individuals (what % of sub standard police officers would you consider to be true?) who I have come across in my sphere of life. You blame the system, or anything else that comes to mind, I have a stepson who does it, he always has an answer. In fact if he had any family in the police force to ease him in he would fit perfectly. You go on about public expectations. I expect a barman/maid to serve me a pint of ale, if it is sour I know it is not his/her fault, it is the managers. However if he/she continues to serve me the same sour product it is now done knowingly and thus is his/her fault. It is none negotiable mate. The police have gone off, they are sour, you need to stop this blind defense of a noticeable proportion of the police force that includes the local female officer with the enormous derriere, it looks like two young boys fighting in a pillowcase. I realize it will never happen, but it would be a site to behold if in the line of duty she was required to run, she simply could not mate,
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Some jobs are more important than others, meaning they require more qualities to be performed. Homer Simpson shouldnt be working at a power plant, and corrupted police officers shouldnt be part of the police at all. Its always the same yada yada, just a few rotten apples. And? Do you let those rotten apples stay there, or do you deal with it? Its not the society s fault, because it is the one with the proof that has the power. If you have proof of something but do nothing, then you concent to the crime with silence. Personally I dont trust the police until I see one story of a police officer denouncing another but you know this will never happen, and that is how the few rotten apples' reputation is applied to the whole police department. You want to uphold the law? then say something when your police friend does something wrong. You want to defend rotten apples with a silence or by blaming it on the system? then keep quiet and take our judgment that is applied on all of the cops.
15th Mar 11 01:03

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Freddie

Cynical Boblet...I'm sorry, I cannot accept those sweeping generalisations. High proportion overweight & Conniving? I don't think so and the remainder are lazy, also not true.
The vast majority of police officers in this country are decent hardworking individuals. Yes there are some overweight, conniving and lazy ones but to suggest that is the majority is a bit silly really. The systems to which they work largely hamper them in most of their efforts. It's the system that needs to be addressed, not most of the individuals.
The police are always in a 'damned if you do, damned if you don't' environment and their success should not be linked to the publics expectations. Just because a police officer has not delivered the service to the member of the public that they wanted it does not mean they have not done their job properly. I worked with the police for about 6 years and some of the complaints that came in from the public were ridiculous. The biggest problem facing the police today is that the public do not understand what the role of the police is. Believe it or not their powers are extremely limited and they're not actually there for a lot of the reasons that we have come to believe they are. We need to educate ourselves about them and their role. Then we might understand a bit more. Having said that, yes there are times when they let themselves down. Unfortunately the public only ever remember those occasions and not the ones where they do well.
15th Mar 11 08:03

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Cynical Boblet

Freddie to the ordinary sober person waiting for some help or support in their hour of need. The reason why the police have not turned up is an irrelevance. Can’t you see that? Whether it is a civil matter or not is a mute point, but again irrelevant. Misunderstandings must be addressed not ignored or have red herrings thrown at them. A high proportion of the police force are overweight & conniving, the remainder at best are lazy, at worst criminals, you sound a good man, please take another look, I firmly believe they are not fit for purpose
14th Mar 11 10:03

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Cynical Boblet....It isn't lost on me at all. I'm simply stating that there is a difference between the police not turning up in the time frame expected by the public and not turning up at all because they aren't there. I'm aware that a lot of people think the police don't bother with them and I have no doubt that on occasions this is true. I also know from personal experience that much of what the police are called out to are civil matters for which they have no powers and sometimes the public expect blues and twos for a broken fingernail. There will never be a happy answer to the problems between the public and the police. Misunderstanding by the public often gets interpreted as the police not caring/being bothered and occasionally you'll come across a police officer that is a tosser! It has to be about making the best of a far less than perfect system. The only thing I would ask of people is that they remember that the police don't make the rules/policies/procedures, the home office do. The police merely act on those instructions.
14th Mar 11 12:03

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Max

Anyways, another hard lesson earned. People that think they are being followed by the cops have this mental illness, thinking that other people have power over your life have that mental illness, etc etc. I understood their scheme too late, and now, officially branded mentally ill + my bad reputation ( not evil, mind you ) due to the consequences of my major head trauma makes it so their image crushed mine, and few people believes my story. My word now has no value in court alone. Congratulation on their victory.
14th Mar 11 03:03

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Max

I never sued the guy since I did some mistakes in that story myself and I thought this case was closed. Boy was I wrong. A few years later, I had clues indicating that a certain ''power'' was watching over me. Apparently being a victim of a crime can also put you on a list of people to watch, as ''potential problems'' or some other similar term. After getting some clues, I learned a few things that ''police mafia'' didnt want me to learn, and then the real harassment started. Strange noises suddenly manifested in the walls where I lived, even in my TV as well. To this day I never managed to get proof that it was truely artificially created sounds maliciously made to harass me and make me pass for a mentally ill person, effectively destroying the value of my word in court. I think its a ray of some sort that passes true wood and jeeprock and when it hits metal it makes a spark sound. Dismantling my tv with an expert did not give any result whatsoever.
14th Mar 11 03:03

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Max

I did suffer police harassment as well. Quite complicated of a story, but to make it short, down in Canada, when someone is victim of something, they proceed in two ways : Either they had the time to analyse the problem or not. If they do not have the time to analyze all the problem, they will take care of you to give the impression that justice is being upheld, but if you take too much time to report a problem to a police ( like me when I got my skull crushed by the son of a cop, that isnt police brutality btw, but still is corruption via favoritism ), then they will take in consideration who commited the crime in their ''moral equation''. They will attempt to calculate which side can still give more to the society on the long term. That s how it is down in Canada, and im pretty sure the same is applied elsewhere. If the person that wronged you badly is a ''good'' person, or numerous ''good'' persons, then the police will not help you willingly, only officially, and you will have to hire yourself a costly lawyer even if you were completely innocent and deserved a crown attorney.
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This is not a free country. It never has been. It works for the rich and the establishment, and no one else. I was sent to prison for several weeks during the 1970s for simply disagreeing with a policeman about my rights. I was not violent in any way merely assertive. I was "arrested" In court, my views did not count for one iota. It was assumed the policeman was entirely in the right, and I got sent down, no appeal. I am now a "criminal" with a criminal record - forced into a "crime" by the stubborness of a state employee. This is a very sick police state.
13th Mar 11 08:03

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Cynical Boblet

The point people are trying to make, that seems to have slipped your attention Freddie, is wnen we need them passed experience tells us they will not be there.
10th Mar 11 08:03

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Freddie

jedi...you won't be saying that when you need them and they're not there!
10th Mar 11 08:03

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I hear 30,000 of these wasters are going on the dole ,GOOD!
8th Mar 11 02:03

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Cynical Boblet

I admire your loyalty Freddie, however there is something smelly in the state of Denmark, your acceptance of it is a sad option. Examples of corrupt policing are growing, maybe a stronger hint from people such as you, who are on their side might help. The bad apples need sorting out, so Mr.& Ms Plod take it on board, when your partner wants you to do something corrupt, blind loyalty & acceptance are poor choices, tell them that you will not be complicit, just not turning up in court to back them up is the coward’s option. Maybe take the grass’s option. but take tip, go over your boss's head.
2nd Mar 11 01:03

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Freddie

Cynical Boblet..... We'd all like to see the bad apples completely removed from the police but I guess we have to accept that they will always be there just as much as any other profession. There's only so much you can do to remove them from any walk of life.
Personally I don't accept the 'highly paid to do a job for the public' argument. In real terms the Police are not particularly well paid. Granted, they are above the national average but if you saw some of what they have to do then you'd probably agree that on occasions they are grossly underpaid. I also don't accept the argument about them being paid by the public. (I know you didn't make this point but I'm just clarifying this for anyone else that offers the argument) The police are paid from funds raised by taxing the public. The police themselves also pay these taxes so are they not in a way self funding?
The police face a difficult job and on occasions they don't make it any easier for themselves but I think it is a sad day when we tarnish them all with the bad actions of a minority.
2nd Mar 11 12:03

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Cynical Boblet

I had my suspicions but now I am convinced. The only person who would concider mikep to be a respected griper is mikep, hence dsg is mikep.
1st Mar 11 06:03

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DSG

" Oh so because the polish people you know can write and speak good english, it means ALL of them can does it? shut up MikeP you are a fu@@@@g T@@t and full of it, do us all a favour and go and gas yourself.-i hate MikeP
Really,i hate mikep? You think the best way to get your views across is to attack one the most "respected" gripers on this site? What planet do you live on?
1st Mar 11 06:03

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Cynical Boblet

The day when the bad apple is not in the minority is the day we all lose, What is your message freddie? All police are highly paid to do a job for the public. I do not accept that we must endure the bad apples, we are not talking about a factory production line we are talking about people who's dubious actions can effect us for the rest of our lives, not a nut & bolt coming loose
1st Mar 11 02:03

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Freddie

I've said it on here before and I'll say so again. One of the biggest problems is that people don't really know the role of the police anymore. They apply barrack room logic to the law and think that the police should act accordingly. Unfortunately what the general public believe to be correct is frequently very wrong.
I'll not defend the bad police officers, they deserve all they get, but they are a minority. Most police are genuine decent people trying to do a difficult job. Unfortunately for them it is the actions of the few that stick in the memory and cause the public to largely mistrust them. It's a bit like football supporters really. There is a minority group that are hooligans and therefore the general public perceive them all to be like that. Let's not even get into the argument about Muslims! they get exactly the same treatment.
It's sad that people will naturally dwell on their bad experiences and ignore the good ones.
1st Mar 11 12:03

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MikeP

" Oh so because the polish people you know can write and speak good english, it means ALL of them can does it? shut up MikeP you are a fu@@@@g T@@t and full of it, do us all a favour and go and gas yourself.
*I hate MikeP 28-Feb-2011 23:41"

Oh dear, I'm going to be losing lots of sleep over this, that some brainless semi-literate moron who can only express himself using pejoratives wishes to start a hate campaign against me!
1st Mar 11 05:03

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MikeP

"I do not trust police in uk.
They are poor educated"
Famous Katie from Poland.

hmmmm ...... pot, kettle, black?

If you're from Poland you may have an excuse for your abysmal English, but nearly all the Polish people I know - and that's a lot - speak and write better English than many native English speakers so I suspect that you're more likely Katy from Basildon than Katarzyna from Warszawa.
28th Feb 11 08:02

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Famous Katie from Poland.

I do not trust police in uk.
They are poor educated and corrupt.
Make investigations like in 19 century do not want to use access to technology to get proofs of innocence of victims.
Mean records on cameras and checking cellulars phones of criminals.
Are also very naive and to much listen the community which sometimes lie by hate , racism and disrimination against imigrants in this country.
Am victim of such actions by poor educated police constabulary in uk east anglia.
I know their mistakes but they cannot see them trough 3 years.
Its sad and am afraid of police in uk physical even.
28th Feb 11 08:02

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Dr Facts.

Reference your Police Gripe. My only gripe with your post is were you wrote "We should remember who we are giving these powers to - "not only the good natured trustworthy police", but also the bad cops who may use these powers to intimidate innocent members of the public.
There are no good trustworthy Police. Your gripe about the Police is quite accurate but you overlook [because maybe you don't know about it] that all Police Forces have an unspoken about Police Concealed Agenda List which scales reports that come in on 999 calls for Immediate action List, or the opposite. All reports that come in are assessed for their favourable Police publicty value, for instance a missing female child scores 8, if shes found dead it goes to 9, and if the killlers known to them, or as phoned in to say he's done it and wants to be arrrested, then it goes to 25 on the richter scale. Before they go out to arrest him they phone ITV, BBC, and local radio stations to ask them to be ready to 'bring--the-cameras and reporters for exclusives. This PR action is to milk the publcity value. For instance the girl who got ki11ed in Bristol is an good example of 'the British Police PR' at work and play. I can name 500 crimes which created so much money in Police overtime payments that they are still referred to today as "2 weeks in Florida", 3 weeks in the Bahamas, and / or 4 weeks fishing in Ireland, by the force officers concerned. The Great Train Robbery, Myra Hindley and The Yorkshire Ripper bought all the top coppers 5 bedroom detached houses in exclusive areas, the CID underlings got semi-detached homes out of it, and the beat officers loaded up on booze and ciggies for 5 years. The tax payers got well and truly fleeced by these uniformed conmen. Every so often we need to remind ourslvs that 50 years ago a coppers job was listed by the public as less useful than a bus-condictor, truck driver or postman.
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btw ,always use a phone that has a voice recorder when dealing with the police -you never know if it will come in handy :)))
24th Feb 11 10:02

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nw

body cameras a must on all police that have dealings with the public!
we have heard & seen how badly the police can behave!!!!
put them under pressure to wear body cameras!
24th Feb 11 10:02

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Yes I also feel I am being inreasonably harassed by the police over some comments I made about a journalist who interviewed me after a gig. I put them on facebook and he complained. Since then Ive been stalked and hounded by the police, even my car, as you mention. First they wanted a libel/slander case..but that is a civil matter. Then they contacted my partner saying that they could get me a criminal record if she agreed to the fact that I had stolen her mobile. I bought the mobile and like all couples we share. The Journalist had been texting to that mobile..we have 6 between us. Now as I have mention this member of the press -but NOT named- they want to do ME 4 Harassment..In full sympathy..they are corrupt as they need merits for cases for statistics. We live in a STATE POLICE and most dont know that!
16th Feb 11 03:02

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my boyfriend has stayed out of trouble the past few years but the police just wont leave him alone , they have even searched my house and blameing him on things he hasnt even done , every time we go out the door or as much as even look out the window there there , it is really beginning to get to us now.
4th Feb 11 05:02

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fed up of police corruption

The media is definitely onto their crooked practice although they don't often know that it's the police listening in on other people's conversations under RIPA and then selling on the stories or leads to newspapers like News of the world.
3rd Feb 11 01:02

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Message for idiot MikeP

"Very poor taste and not even funny. In many countries making statements like this would be actionable. I hope someone from the Police sees your posting and decides to do something about it."
MikeP 02-Feb-2011 17:27

@ MikeP. You lack a sense of humour. Or maybe you're not intelligent enough to debate with those contributing seriously here. I hope the pigs arrest you for you're potential bullying personality.
2nd Feb 11 09:02

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MikeP

" A friends son rang home the other evenig in distress, he told his father, my friend that he had ran over a pig, he was distraught & did not know what to do., my friend told him to bury it at the side of the road & ring him back when that was done. He rang back 20mins later & asked what he should do with the crash helmet & gloves
*and lies 02-Feb-2011 14:36"

Very poor taste and not even funny. In many countries making statements like this would be actionable. I hope someone from the Police sees your posting and decides to do something about it.
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A friends son rang home the other evenig in distress, he told his father, my friend that he had ran over a pig, he was distraught & did not know what to do., my friend told him to bury it at the side of the road & ring him back when that was done. He rang back 20mins later & asked what he should do with the crash helmet & gloves
2nd Feb 11 02:02

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prove there lot bad police out there rt.com 400 ki11ed in after police custordy uk
2nd Feb 11 02:02

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Fed up, I believe it is so that a later police patrol car can pick up on the glowing sticker, knowing that it has been put on a vehicle that has been parked outside a pub.
1st Feb 11 01:02

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Just a thought

So it is true, pigs do indeed fly, in helicopters. But at whose expense? You and me of course.
1st Feb 11 12:02

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intelligence tosser service

the intelligence services try to 'recruit' thru blackmail and harassment. you're actually not an employee but a slave. bstards rot in hell and go find someone who actually wants to 'work' for ya.

no wonder the real terrorists getaway with it cos the intelligence bstard service is too busy harassing the innocent who refuse to participate. so they use local police to harass you further, to try and cover it up. bstards make your life a misery.

the media is onto their crooked practices!!
31st Jan 11 11:01

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Publican,

What would be the purpose of these stickers? Is it for tracking? It's easy for the police/intelligence service to keep track on those who are well known for instance politicians and celebrities, but for the rest of us, our details are obtained by theft of data from local authorities. Data which have been stolen so far have been Child Benefit records, RAF personal data, employees of the Justice system, Royal Navy, Driving Test candidates, hospital patients records, Government computer passwords (memory stick) to name but a few.
31st Jan 11 09:01

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And I'm very concerned that the lies the intelligence service used to trick Tony Blair into going to war is working on Theresa May who is giving them more powers under RIPA. It doesn't matter to her that they're flaunting their corruption to let us know that this country has become a police state right before our very eyes.

I wish she'd have seen how inconsistent the police were about Joanna Yeates murder. The police said that the cold weather had an adverse effect on the state of her body which was hindering the post mortem hence the delay. Experts said that this shouldn't have been a problem because the freezing conditions preserved per body.

Joanna's dad said he had a feeling that the police knew more than they were letting on at the beginning. Obviously the police knew who their killer was no warning was issued.
The police stated that she was fully clothed. Then a it was decided that a sock went missing weeks later. I can't imagine that she kept still while her killer took her sock off to strangle her with so there must have been a struggle but there was no mention of it.

I can understand the police or intelligence service watching someone like Julian Assange then seeing and hearing him refusing to use a condom with one woman and seeing him making love to another while she was asleep then saying we'll give you a house if you press charges or whatever. If it's to say to Julian Assange that the UK is loyal to him and will avenge what's been done to him to shut him up about revealing information about corruption here then I'd be very surprised if he gets taken in by it.
31st Jan 11 09:01

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They've stopped sending helicopters over my house whenever I leave a post on here. They've resorted to messing up any computer I've ever used instead (including my friends and family's comps and laptop after messing up two of mine) via remote assistance.

And I'm disgusted that they're sitting back and letting News of the World take the blame for phone hacking when it's the police doing it under RIPA to try and control people's lives. That's why they failed to investigate the complaints about this in 2005 when they were asked to.
31st Jan 11 08:01

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Publican

Has anybody heard the rumour that Bradford police are putting small stickers on the rear bumpers of cars parked outside pubs.The idea being that they glow when a certain light is flashed on them. We walked back to my publican friends car after a dominoes match the other evening, a police car was parked in darkness along side it, that was when sombody warned him to look for such a sticker.
29th Jan 11 09:01

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the filthy dirty perverse pigs spy on women's bedrooms and try to blackmail with what they've seen. no joke these police bstards are sick.
29th Jan 11 09:01

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bent coppers need arresting

Leave a comment here and the pigs send a helicopter over ya house to warn you. I'm serious. Go to hell morons.
27th Jan 11 11:01

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Dan

Just got pulled for the first time in my life today, apparently I was parked on a street of a known drug dealer, after being embarrassed and loudly accused of drugs and searched in the middle of a busy street.... only instead of an apology when they realised I was in fact waiting for a friend at the chippy round the corner I got "don't come round here any more or you will be subject to full body search"

For someone who has never touched drugs it was very embarrassing and my complaint is getting issued tonight!
27th Jan 11 07:01

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They harass you and threaten you, and make your life a misery until they get their sick and twisted power abused way. If you dare to stand up to these criminal individuals serving as Police, they will demolish your good character and soil your good name, thus ruining your life.
24th Jan 11 12:01

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Yes. They will use any excuse to break down your door then offer to get it fixed for you by a locksmith who will give them a spare key so they can snoop in your house under RIPA.
21st Jan 11 09:01

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Are the police allowed to break down your door at anytime if they have a warrant to arrest someone even though they have been told the person no longer lives there.
20th Jan 11 07:01

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The case of Julian Assange is curious.

A foreigner is sought by the Swedish authorities to answer charges of alleged sexual misconduct and by the USA for alleged leaking of secrets, seeks refuge in the UK who is neither responsible for his actions or for his safety.

Surely the only correct response would be to deport Assange his own country (Australia) and let them argue with the Swedes and Americans as to which is the stronger case.
17th Jan 11 11:01

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I haven't come across the case of Dr Crippen but the poolice are carrying out executions themselves instead on those who didn't deserve it so there's always a miscarriage of justice everyday. North Korea could learn a thing or two about corruption by watching to see how the coppers here do it. Mark Kennedy's life is in danger from the British police and it wouldn't surprise me if American police trade him in for Julian Assange.
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matty1 - have you ever thought that there is no smoke without fire?

Is your son whiter than white in this? 34 times since Oct?

Nah suspicious that one is - your son may be telling a few porkies I think! Covering up his behaviour and blaming someone else
13th Jan 11 10:01

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My son is 14 years old and he is going so much grap by 1 PIG so far 34 times since 27th oct 2010 I think copers must have been bullied in school and joined the police to seek revenge... WORD OF WARNING.. "NEVER TRUST A COMMUNITY COPPER"
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Some undercover cops are made to lead those who are not breaking the law into entrapments setup by the police if the perpetrators are doing every legit and above board. That's why the prosecution dropped the case rather than risk having Mark Kennedy testify.
12th Jan 11 01:01

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The police are professionals. Professionals at wasting disgusting amounts of money.

If this power plant was ever sabotaged then they move in and cuff the lot. Not some half a could be possibility it may happen and surge to depths planting an undercover policeman.

What a shower they are. Whomever sanctioned this complete waste of time exercise should be made to pay back all monies wasted on nothing.

Enough to make you weep.
11th Jan 11 10:01

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Mark Kennedy ,hmmm another police mess,when are the boys at number 10 gonna get tough on the police and their crap!
Quick lets cover this one up as soon as poss.....give him a credit card & ship him overseas (spain)
10th Jan 11 06:01

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I'm curious about the undercover cop PC Mark Kennedy and why he turned against the police during a court trial. What will become of him now that he's done that I wonder.
10th Jan 11 01:01

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Remember Doctor Harold Shipman, It wasn't untill he ki11ed a RICH old woman thus depriving a RICH LAWYER of her inheritance that anything was done. No fresh evidence was brought to light, the lawyer had the legal knowledge & the financial carrot. She used her access to law to make them act on evidence that they had been given by the poor people they had ignored for years.
10th Jan 11 12:01

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If they've now decided that DNA was found on Joanna then the first thing they must do is clear Chris Jefferies' name and secondly, if they know who they've decided to fit up by using their DNA then they shouldn't waste tax payers' money by testing all the male population in Bristol. What they should do is to plant the DNA on the sock they decided went missing after saying she was fully clothed and put it down as an unsolved mystery if they're not going to admit responsibility for what's happened.
10th Jan 11 09:01

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I totally empathise with you and your awfull situation the same has been happening to me for years, the police are cunning in that they cover themselves and have no problem with twisting the truth.
7th Jan 11 05:01

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Another example of the police trying to fit someone up ,remember poor Barry George ?
like I say & allways say a bunch of wasters in uniform .No proof just fit someone up that will do.
Mr Jeffries get a good lawyer and sue them! And mr Mansfield as a barrister .SHOWTIME!
3rd Jan 11 06:01

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MikeP

I find it more than a little odd that if Chris Jeffries has been cleared as a suspect, and by inference he has, as the police say the murderer is still at large, he has been released on bail. Why 'on bail' if he's innocent.
3rd Jan 11 11:01

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Fortunately Chris Jeffries not seeing the faces of the two men who lead Joanna Yeates away may have saved his life otherwise things could have turned out very differently for him.
3rd Jan 11 10:01

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@ andy summers - "The chances are that you will be more than likely to slip on fallen wet leaves than a dropped chip".

Not unless the leaves have been deep fried.
2nd Jan 11 05:01

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I am just an ordinary family man who would not trust a policeman as far as I could throw him, They now use a system laughingly called intellegence. To explain the police encourage grasses to inform on ordinary folk. The grasses are generaly scally kids, the next time you see a bunch of kids hanging arround a pub car park they are waiting for somone to leave so they can call a police number they have been given. I believe the kid grasses get a reward. It has nothing to do with holding up the law, the kids are imune from prosecution due to this scally Police partnership that is why they act like they do to the public in general they are above the law the ordinary person is the target for this Grass Police relationship
2nd Jan 11 05:01

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Absolutely the police will only use cctv when it suits them. They had nothing for the cctv to film when students were protesting about tuition fees because they didn't react to the fact that the rise was going ahead so the police contained them to get a reaction out of them instead. When that failed to get the protesters to attack the police in retaliation, they decided to bring in Prince Charles and Camilla in the midst of the protest to try and get a reaction out of the protestors that way and even wound their windows down and left them down to make sure it absolutely gives the police what they want but it just didn't happen that way. The protestors didn't overturn their car or harm them. One protester was even overheard yelling at the driver to wound the window up he was that concerned for their safety. The policemen who were standing by the vehicle trying to play hero to the Prince didn't think to tell the driver to wound the windows of the car up. It wasn't fair to put the Prince at risk like that to try and prove a point. The problem is that the police have made themselves the enemy of the people terrorising the nation just because they can.
1st Jan 11 07:01

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yes guys youre correct in saying some poor bloke may get the blame for something he has done .look at what they did to Barry george ?
any mug will do!
the police use cctv as and when they feel like it -trust me I know ONLY WHEN IT SUITS THEM!
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I can't believe they've arrested Chris Jeffries. The reason no warnings about personal safety were given out after Joanna Yeates' disappearance was because an agent or agents for a public authority ie police entered her property under RIPA and she caught them in there when she arrived home. The agent(s) were no threat to the public, they had no choice but to silence Joanna. They, (agents acting under RIPA) have been getting more and more daring lately entering my property when I've been out leaving my teenage son sleeping in his room. What would they have done if he had woken up? Met the same gruesome end as Joanna Yeates? I've changed the locks now but if you have a landlord then chances are they've been approached to give police a copy of your keys. Change the locks to your property yourself if you know how to without telling your landlord. I just hope that Chris Jeffries doesn't 'commit suicide' in police custody. If he was approached to give spare keys to the police for all the properties he owns then he needs to put two and two together to work out who did this. He may get threatened by the police to say nothing and he won't cop the blame for what happened to Jo. We'll wait and see what happens.
31st Dec 10 02:12

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Most cops are dirty -they lie ,fake statements & steal.just ask the IPCC!
31st Dec 10 01:12

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Hey ,the police are a bunch of waster -look they used CS gas on an old women!it was on the news,
like I said body cameras a must .....
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I feel sorry for that chap in the wheel chair being dragged about like a doll!!!!
simple body cameras a must ....ive read stories that they are into dealing drugs -using steriods to make them look big ,yeah whatever.still a bunch of waster in uniform!
31st Dec 10 01:12

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I think it is a good idea for the police to wear helmet cameras, then it can be shown just what they have to put up from the more moronic and idiotic section of the population.

I bet you this comment does not say here long.
26th Dec 10 08:12

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the truth

All police in the uk should wear body cameras ,head cams.that should stop them fitting people up .bunch of wasters!
more law firms to sue ,when they get it wroung.
26th Dec 10 07:12

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the truth

Look people the police are a waste! head cams for all police that deal with members of the public!!!
26th Dec 10 07:12

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=ABR=

You are clearly a tool on numerous levels, I would even go so far as to call you a blatant liar!

On a seperate but oddly linked note, the text "police" system on this site is far too brutal.
17th Dec 10 01:12

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Kit

How many does it take before it becomes litter in your world? Usually around here they seem to be unable to eat without dropping half of the box along with all the chicken bones.

It only took one for my friend to slide on and take a painful tumble to the pavement.
15th Dec 10 07:12

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I said a chip,Kit,not a whole plethorah of them! A chip is not litter,it is merely vermin bait.
15th Dec 10 07:12

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DSG,

A chip is real litter; my local shopping areas seemed to be covered in dropped chips and they are a nuisance. They encourage rats and are very slippery if you tread on one .A friend of mine trod on one, slipped and went flying.
15th Dec 10 07:12

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realisticanon,most police officers are idiots who cannot tell the difference from a chip and real litter,who charge outrageous fines for going a few miles over the spped limit and let kids get away with £75 worth of stolen goods in Dorset because they"haven't got the manpower" They are the same police who require 4 police officers[yes,4]who arrest a war veteran for cycling on the pavement and say "I'm only doing my job".

Nowadays,if you're a criminal,you can commit burglary,or assault in the reasonable knowledge that you'll probably get off quite lightly, and that if your victim fights back you can sue him or her for damages. But,if you're a law-abiding citizen and park your car in the street, exceed the speed limit, smoke a cigarette in the wrong place, put the wrong sort of rubbish in the wrong sort of bin or forget your tax return and you're a social pariah to be pursued with the full might of the law.
15th Dec 10 06:12

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I DONT Trust the police at all but I like police drama on tv but I dont trust a real cop at all
cop's should dead in hell and police drop dead some where and police should burn in hell
police f off and died they keep bring a police helicop to my bedroom window I am not up to any thing just on my compther on youtube youtube is not a crime police should arrest real crimmials who do crime all the time not people that go on youtube and facebook and other things like amzon.co.uk yahoo and that from daniel clapham
12th Dec 10 09:12

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Kit

the truth,

many police forces have already been using "head cams" for some years now.
11th Dec 10 04:12

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the truth

the way forward is all police officers dealing with the public should wear body cameras!
11th Dec 10 12:12

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victim

thieving b'stards harass law abiding citizens and make our lives difficult
30th Nov 10 12:11

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@realisticanon. An ignoramus like you needs to experience covert harassment, then come back here and tell us to shut up. Idiot you'll be begging for help then.
21st Nov 10 11:11

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realisticanon

If all of this did happen to all of you and its all the complete truth then your all idiots for not pursuing it further and making a complaint. It is possibly the easiest time ever to make a complaint and for the original gripe...you admitted you were drunk and disorderly, can you be sure they didn't try to offer you a blanket or you didn't lash out on them? I know my view on things is very different when drunk. You probably live in a student area where people just smash up cars, and you've not done anything about it by dropping the case against the officer in question. If it was that serious you would pursue it til something was done about it so stop moaning and either d something about it or shut up!
21st Nov 10 10:11

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Anon

If you write here the police drop hints to say they know. I say keep on writing and pee them off. Truth hurts.
31st Oct 10 11:10

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look up john harris - its just an illusion
and robert menards videos
30th Oct 10 07:10

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Anon

Is freedom of speech illegal?

The blogger of this gripe may have paid a heavy price for speaking out but he had every right to complain because what he's experiencing is happening to loads of people. Harrassment is illegal so who's at fault here? The police that's who.
28th Oct 10 11:10

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Anon

Oh dear, the police keep driving past my house every hour. I think I may be in trouble for saying what I said on here :(
28th Oct 10 11:10

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Anon

And when I say they use criminals, I mean hardened criminals not those with minor offences.
20th Oct 10 01:10

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Anon

There's no negativity. Journalists may know what's going on but what can they do about it? The police know how to use the media to their advantage. It was reported that Harwood, (the officer who was shown hitting Ian Tomlinson with his baton) accused police of using him as a scapegoat to deflect attention away from Bob Quick former (head of counter terrorism) who accidentially revealed details of an operation against al-Qaeda linked suspects by failing to secure his papers which were snapped by waiting photographers.

I was referring to the police giving none serious offenders a hard time. They use criminals to help them with their operations in return for money and their 'covering' (ie the criminals can carry on with their criminal lifestyle while the police turn a blind eye to their activities as long as they're a position where they're better able to provide information). Raoul Moat's mistake was that he decided to go straight and start up his own business, that's not what he was supposed to do obviously because he said he was harrassed and eventually went crazy.

You said the police stole years of your life. How long has it been going on? So glad you're level headed though or they might have driven you over the edge too if what you're suffering goes back a long way.
20th Oct 10 01:10

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Police Bullies

Are you Anon 19-Oct-2010 23:11, the same whom I replied earlier because I note a hint of negativity in your response as compared earlier.

Do not underestimate the power of Media. If they didn't expose Ian Tomlinson's footage then Police would have simply fobbed us off with rubbish. Before you say they got away it, and they may have short term, but the world knows what liars they are. This is a start. More importantly do not knock Journalists especially those who dedicate their time and risk their own careers exposing Police corruption. Positivity will help. I mentioned the Media because it helped me tremendously....not one journalist but many who acknowledged my experiences and kept contact.
20th Oct 10 12:10

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Anon

What can the media do? They're there to report it and that's about as much as they can do. It's getting easier and easier to get a criminal record nowadays from letting your dog foul to dropping cigeratte ends as a way to get as many people on their database as possible. And they're getting them young too by lowering the price of alcohol, it's going to ensure that young people start out in life with a criminal record hindering their chances of reaching their full potential or even moving on from their 'mistakes'. They will instead have to put up with what Peter is describing down to a tea. If a newspaper were to ask readers to describe their experience of the police, they'll find that it's exactly the same experience as Peter's.
19th Oct 10 11:10

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Police Bullies

@ Anon 19-Oct-2010 07:29 I assume you've told your friends and family you're being harassed. At least inform a Journalist locally about what is happening. More than often Journalists are aware of such situations as other people before you have informed them already. Good luck with IPT.
19th Oct 10 08:10

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anon

(Police Bullies)
The police hacked into my computer as well and they've seen the report I've been preparing for submission to the Investigatory Powers Tribunal. They don't like what going to expose about them to the IPT and are trying to end my life to silence me. I will stand up to those terrorists (ie the police) regardless because I fear NO evil. I've got God on my side.
19th Oct 10 07:10

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Police Bullies

The Police are like a disease. If you stand upto their bullying they'll attack you from every angle. Power hungry criminals need to be restrained and can be done if you've a contact in high authority who can protect your ass. I've had to endure years of harassment. They interfered with my family, friends, jobs. Tried to give me a breakdown, but thank goodness for the Media. Threats to expose which they read in my emails, forced these criminals to back off. I haven't finished yet. They stole many years of my life.
17th Oct 10 11:10

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police have been harrasin my son from when he was 15 arested him so many times for things he has not done and got n f a and yet because of policetey no my son now cos of them he keeps getting harased he went to prison for something he did not do now they r trying to send him to prison they made him drop out of school and made my youngest drop out of school by putting gun to my 13 year olds face raided my house looking for someone else beat my boyfriend up twice and my young son son had to go counciling and was in shockby having gun in his face 2 weeks ago they set a dog on my son took him to plice cell let him go and dd not let doctor see him they need to be stopped we have noone to help us.
17th Oct 10 06:10

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To 'Your ma', that's the thing with the police. The very reason they're doing what they're doing, bullying, intimidating, harrassing people is to evoke a reactions like that of Raoul Moat and Derrick Bird from as many people as possible because the thing we've got to understand is the police want to carry guns and they've wanted this for a long. I pray they never do because they are corrupt and if their weapons of elimination takes a lot of effort. Like killing pedestrians by mowing them down with their vehicles takes precision planning but with a gun, you can be walking down the road minding your own business and you'll get shot at 'because they thought you had a shot gun' - check out how they shot dead Harry Stanley just yards from his home because he was carrying a table leg. The death of Ian Tomlinson who was shoved to the ground with such brute force that it caused abdominal bleeding which ki11ed him could have sent a message to police that they cannot go around killing people like they're the real terrorists. Unfortunately the officer involved was let off so the police terror goes on because they know that there are people 'planted' in organisations like IPCC to ensure they're 'protected'. The pathologist who was 'planted' to carry out the post-mortem on Ian Tomlinson's death said he died from a heart attack. After the CCTV were made public where Ian was shoved by police, a second post-mortem was carried out which found that Ian had infact died from abdominal bleeding and not a heart attack at all. The police are flaunting their corruption in a civilised country and something should be done about it. Someone needs to DO something to stop them from claiming anymore lives. They do not have the power to carry out executions. They are meant to enforce the law not break it and then take the lives of those who complain about it. It's not their place.
9th Oct 10 03:10

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Granny G

I have noticed in many instances that the police seem to want to AVOID confrontation with the criminals. But then who could blame them? They are not issued guns for weapons and aren't given adequate training. They parade around in the sunshine once in a while when there is no TROUBLE going on. Oh, and they do a lot of paperwork from the phone calls they get. Great job, eh?
5th Oct 10 12:10

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The police I have came across could be profiled as your typical very dangerous psycho. Not that I approve of Raoul Moats methods, but after I have witnessed first hand and heard how so many people have been bullied, I wont lose any sleep if a few more get their faces blown off. The massive amount of 'reality' police tv programmes is total false portrayal of these people, propaganda even.
20th Sep 10 07:09

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bob

hi pete your are so right' the police are lawless they are crimeial,we are going though more that this. the ipc are a wasnt of time. I will say to anyone dealing with the police (FILM IT) with your moblie phone and post it on the net. we have footage of police officer running away from our house covering they collar numbers .as far as the power to be, you and me are animals. they are brain washing the public with police stop programs on tv . dont worry people waking up.
18th Sep 10 01:09

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anonymous

I believe you, Peter as I know someone who was locked for being drunk and disorderly and did pretty much what you did (Banging on the walls and shouting etc) The police's response to this was to wrap him up in one of those thin blue mattresses you get in cells and punch and kick him untill he was quiet. The mattress was used so that he wouldn't get bruises!
15th Sep 10 05:09

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Responder.

I can well imagine the above statement being true as I could match it. There are surely some decent Police Officers but there are a few `grudge holders` and will persue you to the end whether you are in the wrong or not.
My son ended up with a fractued skull, a blood clot on his brain and needed brain surgery. This happened while in custody for a minor incident. You can`t get anywhere by complaining, The Solicitors, IPPC and Police Officers are an incompetent lot and no better than the offenders they deal with.
14th Sep 10 06:09

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phoenixdan

I have had the same problems with the police from when I was a child. if you make a complaint about the police they will harass you ,in my case they even went to the expence of putting a police helicopter over my head 3 times within 1 hour of phoning my complaint into the ipcc in london. jammie wood of the ipcc told me years ago the home office does not give the ipcc powers to do anything about police . the police are revengfull thugs who protect the rich and famouse ,and treat the job as their own private little mafia .its a shocking waste of public money just to cover up for thugs. take them to court thats my advice dont bother with the ipcc,keep a diary of events because police also have friends and family they can call on to harass you. anyone can contact me by email at phoenixagogo@yahoo.co.uk
10th Sep 10 01:09

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fahmida

I totally agree with the above comments. I am having personal experience of police bullying and trouble making. They are trying to accuse me of theft and fraud even though they have never had any evidence. If they had any real evidence they could have arrested and charged me by now. Instead they are trying to threaten me to admit a crime I havent committed. They have been stalking me and have been invading my privacy by bugging my home. They have been contacting potential employers and telling them lies about me - basically slandering me. They have been behaving like a bunch of racist and sexist thugs like the gestapo and I dont trust them one bit! Basically they think they are above the law and have the right to do anything they like to people. I also think that some of them have very big egos and want the glorification of catching a criminal and will do anything to get it. If you complain, they use threats and cover ups.
6th Sep 10 03:09

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Thom

TX DPS Trooper - DAVID RIGGS - Wise County - Decatur (Decatur, TX)

How many of you have had the misfortune to have encountered Trooper David Riggs in his official capacity? Meaning - an illegal traffic stop, illegal search and seizure, violation of your civil rights, solicitation of sex-drugs-or money, etc. ?

If so, report your event to the Texas DPS Inspector General's Office.

Unprofessional behavior and unlawful practices will not be tolerated?
3rd Sep 10 04:09

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your ma

I completley agree the police are no more than bullys they go around acting like the Gastapo. They are accusing me of shooting someone and incriminating me following me around when am out running asking what am doing whare am going { COME ON COPS SHORTS AND TSHIRT OUT RUNNING} what else am I going to do. That gun man going around killing cops should get a medal thats what happens when police incrimanate innocent people.
8th Jul 10 08:07

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Victim

John 32.Perhaps he is telling the truth. Anyone who has never had any dealings with the Police will not know how it work's.Perhap's he did not understand his situation. I was asked to go to the Police Station for a false accusation. The Policeman told me 'I did not need a Solicitor ' which is police speak that you bloody well do.
8th Jul 10 07:07

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John32

What a load of crap, you must have addmitted the offence to get a caution, if you had deniged the offence put to you, you would have been chrged and gone to court so stop your whinging.
7th Jul 10 05:07

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police are a bunch of racist homophobic lying who abuse there power and arrest people for no reason when they are in a bad mood I know this because I know some police and I have heard it from the horses mouth one day a policeman pulled my wife over for a speeding offence 3mph over the limit he bullied her and used over the top scare tactics to try and make her cry she didnt and he became more aggresive my wife lodged a formal complaint because as well as this the desk officer gave her the wrong information about the allowed time to pay on the ticket and she recieved a further fine and as if your not surprised the complaint was booted out. on top of all this the next night the police were chasing somebody in a car there were 6 police vehicles in persuit the road was in a horseshoe shape so once into the road there was only one exit now you and me would have left 2 cars to close off the exit to the road no not the police all six cars followed him up the road where he escaped through the exit unfotunately todays police are recruited for how good they can perform in front of the tv cameras and the gift of the gab but common sense has taken a back seat I have zero confidence in the police oh and by the way the police I know they all are in the supertax bracket says it all.
3rd Jul 10 01:07

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police are a bunch of racist homophobic lying who abuse there power and arrest people for no reason when they are in a bad mood I know this because I know some police and I have heard it from the horses mouth one day a policeman pulled my wife over for a speeding offence 3mph over the limit he bullied her and used over the top scare tactics to try and make her cry she didnt and he became more aggresive my wife lodged a formal complaint because as well as this the desk officer gave her the wrong information about the allowed time to pay on the ticked and she recieved a further fine and as if your not surprised the complaint was booted out. on top of all this the next night the police were chasing somebody in a car there were 6 police vehicles in persuit the road was in a horseshoe shape so once into the road there was only one exit now you and me would have left 2 cars to close off the exit to the road no not the police all six cars followed him up the road where he escaped through the exit unfotunately todays police are recruited for how good they can perform in front of the tv cameras and the gift of the gab but common sense has taken a back seat I have zero confidence in the police oh and by the way the police I know they all are in the supertax bracket says it all.
3rd Jul 10 01:07

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david

Dear Peter,
I have read some of your comment.
The only way to protect yourself is to take some form of legal action, as before you know it, they will torture you at work via police employer police checks, and harassment.
If you do not take any action, the police willtorture you till you are ill, and then take steps to have you identified as mentally unstable, such that they can torture you at will, without retort.
I advise you to write all the facts in chronological order, and add. If you are ever interfered with by the police. note the numbers, vehicle numbers, any witness who were near you.
Keep calm, do not provide information that can be used aganist you, use a phone or recording device to record any talks, and state that you are recording anything that is saidn inorder to ensure that a true record is provided of anything said.
The police have no right to prevent you from doing this.
Then seek legal advice if what has occurred is out of the ordinary, and not a gripe.
30th Jun 10 11:06

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Zachary Mullin

You and I both, I was honest and frank with the police when I was arrested with charges, believeing my innocence was transparent, they made me out to be a lying threat to society. Do not trust them, if they ask for the time, dont respond.
30th Jun 10 07:06

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I can tell you now , that I was a part time police officer and my ex was full time stuff , and just becouse she wanted the house and the kids , she and her work froeinds had me arrested for harssment then let go , then taken of the job wy DPS took a look at me then told I was clear to work again , then had my warrent card taken again and said I will be arrested for some thing els if I do not hand the job in and ,. then they got in contact with social workers to tell them not to talk to the children as they may lie about the mother , and when my 7 year old had bruses on her the police took photos and a report but then told social workers that they was not taken it any were so not to look in to it, then harressed me making reports that I was calling them when I got beating by 2 men with get this police boots on , in the night , yet they did not take it any were, no report made, and then they made force reports to the court stating I made over 23 calls to them yet I made 7 and that was becouse my ex was in her car out side my home. so ya I can belive it , and if I had a good solictor I would take them to court but you know , no one thats right NO ONE wants to know , true I have no money and can not pay but that is what the police bank on . we should have the same as in the states a police force that police the police , over here it is the same guys that they work with. mike-handyaround@hotmail.co.uk
29th Jun 10 07:06

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Be careful when you're complaining about the police Peter. You're right, they do bully and intimidate those who try to complain about them. I know of people who this has happened to. The police have made several failed attempts on one of the complaint's life via 'road traffic accidents'. Check out how many people they've ki11ed 'by accident' on the road in the past 10 years or so. The latest victims were just last Saturday in Luton. It's not the terrorists you should watch out for, it's the police, they're worse. And apparently, if you have a minor criminal conviction, then you're treated as if you're a murderer, but if you complain about it, you're 'taken out' as if the death penalty still exists here. Derrick Bird had a minor conviction. Was he harrassed to the point where he just snapped and took people's lives because he suspected people of dobbing him in for money (there are adverts by the Department of work and pension to dob people in for money)? He was probably being surveillanced (he had a MINOR CONVICTION) but thought it was his brother and solictor who told the police and tax office about the £60,000 he had in his account. He was a nice man according to the local villagers but once police decide you're not getting a second chance after a minor conviction then you better watch your back is all I can say.
13th Jun 10 07:06

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Fred West

They never fail to screw up. You can bet diamonds they'll mess up more times than they solve crimes.

Under pressure to bring someone to justice, they will grab you from the street. The Birmingham six and the Guildford four as a mere example. Wrong place, wrong time. They are a right shower.
3rd Jun 10 09:06

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Gibber

What are you saying P? Everyone should shut up unless they meet your standard of English?
2nd Jun 10 01:06

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MikeP

"I have had simrelar experience police even come to my bedroom unenenvited woke me up when drunk is this leagle ?"

Who was drunk, you or the police? Are you still drunk, or is there some other excuse for your pathetic attempt to write something in English?
2nd Jun 10 01:06

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I have had simrelar experience police even come to my bedroom unenenvited woke me up when drunk is this leagle ?
2nd Jun 10 01:06

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Police hater

I loss all respect for the police, they are crimes themselves.
28th May 10 08:05

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annie

my son was on his way home from his girlfriends when my sisters neighbour pulled him up and said go straight home because her boyfriend and his friend whom we had had trouble with and who had broken my husbands nose was looking for my 18 year old with hammers. The youths saw my son and gave chase onto my sisters garden. the youths girlfriend rang the police my sister rang me saying they got him on her garden.I also rang the police giving the names aswell of the youths. My son managed to run when the police came they grabbed my son handcuffed him and took him to the police station. They charged him with carrying an offensive weapon which my sister said he didnt have or get cought with anything.One of the police picked up a handle from my sisters garden belonging to her pickaxe and they took it. She said that they took it from her garden to set my son up. The other 2 got away with it they didnt even go looking for them. My son has been charged for nothing and is now on the run from the police because he doesnt trust them and said he aint going to court for something he didnt do.Iam the same person whos son was beat up by police through a mistaken identity and whos family have been torchered by neighbours
17th May 10 10:05

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ANNIE

I will never ever trust the police. weve had our car burnt out by a family in my area another car window smashed and paint stripper poured over our newest car, my sons have been beaten up by the same people that did this my husband has had his nose broken all with witnesses and the police wont do a thing about it. The family that have done all this were offering people money and I told the police before they did it what they planned to do but the police just didnt do anything and the council wont move me they said its a 5 year waiting list
17th May 10 10:05

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Rider of the Apocalypse

At least you have a visible presence of the Police in the USA over here you never see them, unless of course you are going over the speed limit.....
10th May 10 10:05

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These kinds of things truly happen. When I was homeless and sleeping in my car the police in Portland Oregon, United States of America were brutal. They constantly harassed me. Because they kept seeing my car in the downtown area they would arrest me or assaulted me every time they saw me. I will tell you that I became extremely angry and verbally gave them hell. The things are said were terrible but they were just as good at throwing verbal insults. In short police are like a street gang. They think they are judge, jury and executioner. Never trust a police officer. The only thing they are good for is stopping bullets. Use them when you need to but always remember they are not there to serve and protect you.

The saddest thing is that police murder, plant evidence and assault the citizens they are sworn to serve and protect and an investigation always results in their vindication.

The police will never admit fault because then they will be forced to change their abhorrent procedures. The city or state agency is quick to offer a settlement.
10th May 10 10:05

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Angie84

The police don't care about vandalism. It's such a shame. This is really encouraging hoodies to do whatever they like.
9th May 10 01:05

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helpme

my son has been assualted by an adult but the ppolice are treating me like a criminal im his mum,they have intimidated me and upset me on several occasions, when I ring the police I have just been passed from pillor to post, they have made me that ill I thort of moving and giving up totally, I dont go out the house and my son wont go too school r go out, we both cannot sleep in total feer of the police and the person who assulted my son, why?????
1st May 10 09:05

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CARLA

It is shameful that good citizen will go through this. I don't believe any institution should be above the law. Bullying techniques or Fearful intimidation is wrong. If anyone touch anyone unfoundly they should be procecuted to the fullness of the law. Few years ago I would have never thought SOME POLICE OFFICERS AS BULLYING OR DISGUSTING. It is shameful and It should be dealt with. I thought the U.S. represent free speech and the ability to work hard and contribute to society. I am teacher and I feel disappointed that one institution should be given any right to harrass good citizen. IF it is the technique this people are using fearful intimidation or following hard working citizen that are getting up in the morning to go to work then we might as well take away the laws that said no one is above the law. I feel that the US IS REALLY A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY UNDERCOVER. THE POLICE FROM THE THIRD WORLD COUNTRY WILL SHOOT YOU AND GET IT OVER WITH. BUT IF SOMEONE USE FEAR/INTIMIDATION TO QUIET, IT PREVENT ANY GOOD CITIZENS TO FULLY FUNCTION IN THIS SOCIETY AND THAT MY FRIEND IS WORST.
22nd Mar 10 12:03

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Elmo

Thank you for your agreement Freddie. Although the Police may be legally entitled to, I've never seen or heard of a Police officer issue one around here, I'm not disagreeing with you, but it could perhaps just be one of those things that varies from force to force as to whether they actually give their officers' the means to do so.
13th Mar 10 12:03

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Elmo....The Police can and do issue parking tickets. I agree with your other point though ;-)
11th Mar 10 11:03

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Elmo

The police don't issue parking tickets retard. And you kept saying how drunk you were, is it possible they offered you a blanket and you forgot? Oh no? They wrestled you to the ground and you hit your head?!?! Man up ffs.
10th Mar 10 07:03

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I've known people to be prosecuted for this. Admittedly I left the job 10 years ago and things may have changed in that time but previously people were arrested for this under the criminal attempts act. That made it an arrestable offence! You know the one where you don't have to commit the actual offence, just get caught trying to? If I recall correctly they are referred for treatment on psychiatric grounds rather than being imprisoned but they still got a record.
I'm 100% certain on this. I know as I've nicked people for it myself.
22nd Feb 10 12:02

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Freddie

As a former police officer you must have been taught the basics of English law and should not confuse powers of arrest with an illegal act. You could not, for example prosecute someone for attempting suicide.

If you believe this to be the case I would be interested to hear under what legislation you would initiate and prosecute the case.

Suicide or attempted suicide is most certainly not illegal.
22nd Feb 10 10:02

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Freddie

Attempted suicide is 100% against the law. As a former police officer I have legally detained many people for this over the years.
The power used to do so falls under section 25 of the Police and Criminal Evidence act 1984, otherwise known as PACE. Under this legislation a Police Officer can arrest any person to preserve their own safety or the safety of others. look it up!
22nd Feb 10 08:02

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like help from anyone about my problem I do not start any trouble yet when I Call poloce in Gwent Nice people dont want to take statements I made varous complaint to no avail yet as I mention I am from Malta been here since 70 s yet Poloce act only if the oyher people accuyse us and my family Recently I had threats to kill me and my son Poloce one and sicx of the other, They nice people are u sure they dont want no trouble he threw a piece of wood at me missed damage my door no action my niegbour thrathen me I told him get away from my door Guees what he calls poloce I am arrested. Any one out there in Gwnt gets same treatment I amde complaint to poloce complaints to no avail so any other foriegners geting same treatment Joe
20th Feb 10 11:02

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I am Maltese gets similar tratment from poloce when someone threats me at my door step poloce dont act as soon as someone complaints about us they arrest
20th Feb 10 11:02

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'Freddie'

Attempted suicide is not illegal under English law, a person can be detained under the Mental Health Acts 1983/2007 but one is certainly not under arrest. The decision to detain is clinical not judicial.

I must confess I am not familiar with Scottish law; I imagine the situation would be similar but if not you may be able to enlighten me as to the relevant Act or Instrument.
19th Feb 10 04:02

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Freddie

You would not believe the number of occasions where I tried on the behalf of others to get help for them only to be knocked back by the system. Not to mention the amount of criminals that go unpunished because of the frailty of the system. It is incredibly frustrating as a police officer to try and do your best when you know that other government organisations will fail to support you. Yes, there are some complete a***holes in the police service but the majority are good honest people that want to help. Go ahead and blame those that won't help but don't blame them because they cannot.
19th Feb 10 12:02

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Freddie

A prisoner should be stripped of every possession if they are potentially suicidal. If they don't do it and you hurt yourself whilst in custody with something about your person then they are in a lot of trouble. Their duty of care is to prevent you from harming yourself.
Attempted suicide is indeed illegal. Don't blame the police for that, blame the home office. They make the laws not the police. Incidentally, you would have been arrested under section 25 of the police and criminal evidence act. The power used is subjective and intended to prevent you from doing harm to yourself or others. It's totally legal and totally correct.
The noise of fellow prisoners is hardly the responsibility of the police. What do you want them to do, gag everyone?

You then say " Also why to most people that are treate dlike this in England and Wales end up killing themsleves within 48 hours of being arreste dby the police for being sucidal!" Well that's because the system doesn't support you after your period of police detention. The police have to release you in 24 hours. Once they have done this it becomes the responsibility of others, not the police. They cannot be held accountable for something they have no control over.
A lot of people feel unfairly treated when in these type of circumstances. The police are largely sympathetic to it but the public have to understand that they have very limited powers in respect of such issues. It is a failing of the system as a whole, not a failing of the police. They cannot do anymore than stop the immediate threat.
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19th Feb 10 12:02

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Freddie

police hater....It sounds to me like your biggest issue here is the system as a whole. I don't think it fair of you to single out the police as the villains of the peace when most of your comments are aimed at the inadequacy of the NHS etc.
The police were right to lock you up for your own protedtion. If they didn't and it was later established that they had left you to your own devices, could you imagine the criticism they would get then? People are too quick to criticise the police despite having little understanding of their role or powers.
18th Feb 10 08:02

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the police hater

I have been through all the channels and my MSP after my character reference from a senior academic of my research ability in the field of Psychology, MSP has finally asked for review of the mental health act in Scotland from a psychitrist in relation to my case, in realtion to my diagnosised condition. This may of lead up to all these events happening, however the police here are un trained to deal with crisis situations and in my case they just made things worse!

Due to my head injury in Canada I was unstable and the police came out and they made sure I was taken to hospital the end, in Canada they have to admit sucidal people, not in Scotland the NHS can turn you away legally. One thing the police did say in their investigation was the GP and the NHS just expect us to do the right thing, the problem is the law not just in Scotland but the UK.

Furthermore when senior academics recommend you to do PhD even three year after you graduated, and for me to tell them I can not do research due to this event and my haterd of the field now. As my field involved clinical research fro time to time. This kind of leaves lasting impression of the system on certain academics.
17th Feb 10 08:02

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I was arrested for being suicidal in Scotland no complaint ever established the NHS or the police were in the wrong. The police have far too much power.

The police got involved when my mate phoned a care provider I used, and they contacted my useless GP that did not think of phoning the general hospital were I had been treated for an OD. My mate shock whos brother is police officer I was arrested for breach of the peace. Funny the PF (Crown in Scotland) gave me a full discharge. The forensic NHS health nurses and doctors were vassal of the police and they assessment were a joke.

The police are disgusting they left me worse after an night in the cells terrified thinking I done nothing wrong and for my own protection wot nonsense! I was stripped of everything my glasses and have severe short sight they even tried to take me to court in the back of reliance van double handcuffed for wot? and I all wanted was help for being suicidal. They never explained anything to me!

How can you be declared fit for court when you were suicidal that was the ground for arrest? This was October 2008, and I had other probs medical debt frOm Canada and I eventually went bankrupt this lead to my suicidal feelings. The system just screwed me over and my government refused to stop Canada pursuing me! Or stop the police and NHS screwing depressed people over!

I later a year later after getting over the trauma of this event and the NHS system refusing to help me after it finally went bankrupt due to my accident abroad the head injury had triggered major depression and this is how a system responds by criminalising someone that is suicidal and depressed?

This happened as a NHS psychiatrist discharged me when I told her was still suicidal, Of course the notes are doctored in the complaints process to cover the police and nhs mistakes.

The Police force concerned is Lothian and borders police!
17th Feb 10 07:02

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You don't say where abouts or when this has taken place. There are many different Police forces around the country and not all of them are bad. Though, I do agree that in many cases they over step the mark .

I was parked on a double yellow outside of the parimeter at heathrow, with no loading restrictions im allowed to do so with a disabled persons badge... 2 police offers were moving cars and I explained I could park for 3 hours. He does not know about disabled permits etc and has to look it up in the book. Only when he see it is allowed, he then says its Heathrow airport and my badge does not apply. I ask how would I know that this road is classified as heathrow airport as it clearly is the other side of the permiter, to which he says there are some signs etc.

At first he says he is going to write out a PCN and then when we are still talking about where the sign is he says he will write it out so that I have to go to court for breach of heathrow by-laws etc. There was never any arguement as to whether I would move as I was asked by a police officer. I just needed him to know that I was entitled to be doing so and its not clear that the road was part of heathrow airport.

He later decided he would do neither, I expect that was because I informed him that I would go to see his seargeant and explain what had just happened. How can a police officer in a car not know what a disabled persons badge is?

A few days later I telephoned the police station and spoke to the desk seargeant. He was shocked by the incident and as I could provide him with an accurate time frame, he would locate the officer to find out what happend. They wrote to me to confirm that 2 of their officers had been give a verbal warning. So its not all bad.

They are not as one would expect, the upholders of our laws. Its a shame that we don't see more of them locked up when the abuse the power that we place in them.
14th Feb 10 02:02

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redlady

I was sprayed cuffed kicked beat then arrested then my money was removed from my account that night for the stay guess thats leagal now my sister payed bail because they took my money I never broke a law but I learned if you say some thing the judge the police go to the same bbq
3rd Feb 10 06:02

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Pixie

Peter, that is a really spine chilling tale. I am currently feeling very bullied by the police! I had a bad car crash on Wednesday, where I slipped on ice and crashed into a school coach. My car was a total write off, but luckily my sister and I got out with just whiplash. I called the police, they came eventually , and the officer got out and demanded to know if either us were injured. He had the attitude of a pig and the aggression of a hungry wild bore!
He rang me tonight to give me an option, pay £60.00 fine for a bad tyre (damaged in the accident by collapsed suspension) and get 3 points on my license or go to court, which option do you want to take he asked me. Also told me that he wouldn't be going away, and that he would keep hassling me, and if I wanted he would send his colleague around to bang on my door. I have never been in trouble with the police never been stopped, never had points. I have or had a modified car, that's where my poblems lie! I'm scared because I don't know what he's trying to pin on me. I lost my mode of transport, 3 days of earnings, recovery fees for car (as i'll get more to break the car myself), I can't clain on personal injury as it's neither parties fault. I felt luky to be alive after the crash, now I feel that luck has done a runner and a big finger up at me! The police, well NO faith not anymore.
29th Jan 10 11:01

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Yeah I totally agree with you all. The policing in this country is a joke & a shambles and only makes real people act like the criminals. I have been arrested for so many petty things which one of them was for going into a party at fabric night club to see a top dj that I a saved up for to attend. The idiot police man with nothing better to do, said I looked suspicious though I was Cleary just making my way innocently with nerves because I was excited to be at the club night. A minute amount of what they found out latter on was cocodamine which is a prescription drug was found on me. I get up to work and study my HND and not to commit offences that cost the state millions and this is how I am treated by our so called state that pay our taxes to ??
23rd Jan 10 02:01

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rockofages

I am a 55yr old nurse ,I now do not trust the police in this country,Next door to me is unregistered land, builders wire fencing was errected on the land nr my front garden wall,I asked the police if I could removed it away from the wall ,as it stopped me from cutting the brambles back ,I spoke to 3 police officers at local police stations ,a police officer told me I could move the fence,providing I was not tresspasing ,I moved the wire fence after this advice given ,later at night I was arrested and held all night , had my d.n.a. taken .and put in a cold cell,having worked the night before I was suffering from sleep deprivation ,in a state of shock,questioned by them and let out on bail , told me no further action would be taken.a few days later.
13th Jan 10 07:01

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Mrs A

I am a 42 yr old married mother of four. I have no criminal history & was raised to respect the law. Having been a victim of disturbing harassment for 2 mnths, I finally contacted the police. It took 3 wks before an officer was 'available' to take my statement during which time there had been more incidents. Having given my statement I heard no more, despite constantly logging all incidents which continued in between by calling the police, it took several more wks of harassment, stalking & threats to harm myself AND my children, before the police finally arrested the culprit! Not that this made a difference because no sooner released from custody with a slap on the wrist (even tho the person has 2 convictions for endangering life and arson!) the whole situation became WORSE!! To cut a long story after making numerous complaints and being fobbed off with log numbers I finally contacted my MP! That was pointless!! Yes he wrote to the police who assured him I would be contacted immediately & updated, altho NOTHING!!! I made a formal complaint against the police. THIS was dealt with swiftly!! Eventually the officer dealing with the case (who'd continuously denied he was in fact the officer in the case), FINALLY contacted me but I was NOT prepared for what came next! He contacted me some 3 mnths after my complaint & had the cheek to ACCUSE ME of making the entire situation up, despite the evidence given to the police in support of my complaints!! By this point I felt so weak, emotionally & physically, I simply cried. He'd threatened to arrest me for wasting police time & I felt deflated. As a result, I am still suffering the stalking, harassment & now police victimisation!! I have no faith in the police force.
4th Jan 10 04:01

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Mr Hicks

Justice, it is muggers and burglars and rapists who are a menace to society, not the police. Perhaps you should "endeavour to assist" the victims of criminals?
27th Dec 09 08:12

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Justice

Anyone on here that has problems with the Police, email justlaw999@yahoo.com I will endeavour to assist.

Justice
27th Dec 09 06:12

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I have read your comments with interest. I am a policemans daughter (he now dead) and my husband and I are have terrible problems with a so called policeman. He is a liar and he has tried to make us, honourable hard-working middleaged people lives hell! We are under litigation with him so we cannot say too much, but if you knew the story your hair would turn white overnight to think such a thing could happen in this country, a so called free society, or so I was brought up to believe! We are in a living nightmare and any support if greatly received.
10th Dec 09 12:12

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Jenny

I have no faith in the police because they do not listen to your. I had an argument with my husband which got out of control - I threatened him and he gently pushed me (where I live is a zero tolerence area) and broke my glasses £35. I called the police, he was arrested, spent overnight in the station. I was so upset at the time but the police forced me into making a statement (although I had been drinking) and when they came back the next day they took another statement in which they tried to get me to say that to replace my glasses would cost £300 - which is what I had said in the original statement when I was drunk - he now cannot come to the home or contact me. He is not in court until January. I am scared of being alone at night and we had decorating to do before Christmas. I telephoned them and asked if he could come back home - even if I was not there ...they said no. I agree with the person who said "sort problems out youself!
9th Dec 09 01:12

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Bob, if you really give it thought, it's not "all" the police that are useless and corrupt, but I would definatly agree a small percentage are,

But my thoughts are that the CPS, court's and judges are often completley out of touch, like these burglers that commit 500 burglary's, and then get no prison, despite ruining 500 lives, not to mention the pensioners that collapse and die of a heart attack a short while after,

But "canoe man", who faked his death to swindle an insurance company, and not a danger to any man on the street, is locked up for years straight away, even though the company could get their cash back from his property equity,

Just shows you that the man on the street is of no concern, compared to a large company in the eyes of the judicial system.
27th Nov 09 09:11

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Police are useless, corrupt power hungry fools. They have no idea how to connect to regular people and if there weren't any police there would be a lot less criminals because we could actually go out and kill all the murderers and rapists instead of putting them in prisons and costing us millions. Cops are useless I cant say it enough.
27th Nov 09 07:11

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Been There

The police are only human, the same as any other person.
They are more likely to be the child that was bullied at school, and feel it is their right to take their greivances out on others because they are dressed in black, and you aren't meant to be able to complain.
Coldfeet; go to the top. make a complaint to him/her. watch how soon the lower levels jump. But don't confuse their attendance with liking you, it's because the boss says he don't want to hear no more complaints about them, therefore they have to act nice. x
9th Nov 09 04:11

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coldfeet

I have put a complaint in and problems with the police have started as well .i for one will not drop my complaint at all .a number of things have happen even a break in on my home finger prints on window and foot prints on garden not a thing was done ..just logged .there is time everyone need the police if they not going to do anything to help whats the point in having them .in my book I will never bother them again no matter what its for and will be taking things into my own hands when I find out who broke into my family home .i have lost all respect for the police and what they stand for
6th Nov 09 09:11

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Been There

G.L, It's already on the market, and can be used via your laptop whilst away from home ...
1st Nov 09 10:11

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Gainsborough lad.

Paris, I reckon about ninety five percent of the police are good coppers, or very good coppers, however, I reckon that five percent of coppers are bad coppers, or very bad coppers, we can't hate them all for the minority of bad ones.
1st Nov 09 05:11

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I love the cctv bit, no doubt it did shut them up, can't wait until these recorders start to be routinely fitted to cars like a cd player.
1st Nov 09 05:11

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Paris, I'm sorry to go against the grain of your belief, but all police are little Hitlers in black.
I had some trouble with a neighbour, and was arrested twice under false accusations.
The first time I was arrested, they thought it was okay to take me away and leave my children home alone for nine hrs.
The second time, they threatened to break in at 8am if I didn't open the door. Once again , it was just me with my children. How many of them was there ?
15 OF THEM, infront of my children, and with the most vile language.
It was only when I informed them (when I was in the back of the wagon )of my cctv that they shut up.
If they had only taken the time to listen to me, there would have been no need for all they did.
Both arrests have been a waste of police time, as I was never charged.
In my local police station a few people have died.
Does the the term you say as "good" police, tell you how you can beat some one up and get away with it by saying what they tell you to say, because it is something they already do, and have got away with ? (The police term it as restraining)
1st Nov 09 04:11

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Paris

Why do people hate police?

Police men/women are normally hated in local communities in the UK. With most people naming them pigs and when seeing them shouting abusive language or giving them disgraceful looks.
In my opinion I think this is all wrong police are there to do there job not to be friendly. Without police there would be more rapists, murderers and much more criminals on the streets than there is now. You wouldn’t have to get involved with the police if criminals abided by the law. If people sat back and thought about the difference it would make without them they may give them some kind of respect for what they do. Everyday police men and women put themselves in danger and put there lives at risk against knife crime and guns just for us. In contrast to this I can see it as the 21st century being a lot different to many years ago due to the fact people used to have respect for the police and look up to them. Police have POWER so by fighting and obstructing arrest just puts you in greater trouble. I can understand due to the fact there is good and bad in everyone and not ALL police are going to be angelic but people complain about being hit, shouted at by the police force. You show people respect and they will show you it back! It works both ways!
1st Nov 09 12:11

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I use to have great respect for the police. My ex husband who I have contact with because of the children said he was being watched by the police, I thought he was making it up as he has never broken the law in his life. When he complained to the police the harassment became worse.for him. Then I noticed a car waiting outside my house every morning I left for work, on leaving my house it drove off at first I ignored it then it became obvious. Now the police follow me everywhere on going to work and leaving. Again a case of waisted resourses.used on the innocent lol. I now understand how the real criminals hate the police. I'm not a criminal and I do. No good complaining they only harass you more. But what goes around comes around I'm just waiting for justice.
28th Oct 09 01:10

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chole

JESUS..i thought I was bad...
Well I got arrested for common assult..<<didnt do ...person made it up...Police came search me and figureprint me..got locked in a cell for more then 8 hours I didnt even get a call..?(i was 17 at the time)person that got me arrested kept calling me ...saying im goin to hurt u..so I when to the police..ok it reported...ok??did f**** all about it...had to it myself...next think on my way to college and the same person hit me and I landed on the floor still kicking my ribs...was so in much pain...when to the police station...recieved a letter and had to ring this PC ...wont even aswer the phone to me,while on the other person can talk to u...
and now hes saying I hit him with sistors...please im studing crimology....DONT GO TO THE POLICE SORT IT OUT URSELF
25th Oct 09 11:10

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lisa

I would just like to add this is happening to my partner, who made a complaint against the police, this harrasment has been going on for about 7 years now, who do you turn to I am afraid he is going to either take his own life or seriously hurt an officer of the law, they are turninig him into a person he does not want to become ? How can you trust this behavoiur to protect you ?
19th Oct 09 01:10

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Rocky

and my experience with the police has made me fear the Police not feel protected by them!they can do anything to you and you have no power it isnt a safe world we live in its a world full of control freaks!
2nd Oct 09 07:10

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Rocky

I know just what you are going thru I have had a similar problem, But how you can get these `bent` cops taken out of the force I dont know, it sucks big time
2nd Oct 09 07:10

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rip R

wow, good atricle. It seems the police are no different than the ones in canada(rcmp). Its just a bunch of young people who get a kick out of hand cuffing and being verbally abusive to people who cant dont anything about it. it makes me want to be a criminal because if the police dont care then I have no trust in laws.
13th Sep 09 08:09

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Red Terror

I'm involved in a political movement, and everywhere they go, police always harass them. They once tried to arrest a 16-yr old boy, then violently arrested the two men who asked what for.
5th Sep 09 10:09

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Don't Mess wiv cops

Probably best not to wind them up any further, it's a fight your not going to win. If by chance or pure fortune you get anything out of your complaint it will not be worth the hassle you get from it.
3rd Sep 09 01:09

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Oh the joy of being a safe courteous motorist when every day I come across so many dangerous and inconsiderate motorists who flout the law.

Elitist drivers with their high powered engines and flashy body work are the worst who seem to think they are a cut above the law and everyone else. A normal motorist could be in the fast lane about to overtake a vehicle when an elitist motorist comes up at 100 mph sniffing the backside of the vehicle in front and cannot wait for this motorist to overtake the vehicle in front of him and move over so in desperation of vanity undertakes and barges into the narrow space between his vehicle and the one he was about to overtake.

Oh the vanity of the elitist motorists. They do have a problem containing their barefaced behaviour.

Many elitists are lawyers or come from that background (which MPs do as well, surprise, surprise) and if not a lawyer can afford the best lawyers which enables them to come out spotless even when they have been caught committing a driving offence worthy of a lifetime ban. Something like MPs expenses isn't it? They have such a clean whitewashed record on the outside but that is like a book - don't judge a book by its cover since glossy covers often mean a load of tosh on the inside.

Just what is it that makes these elitists behave so much in vain and show contempt towards others within society?

Their vanity is eating away at them and it is so nice to know they cannot live within their own personal limitations which show they are weak on the inside. This applies to many drivers who like to impress with what they have got rather than what they are.

For every action there is an equal but opposite reaction (Newton) so their behaviour to be one up on the outside shows they must be one below on the inside.
31st Jul 09 09:07

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I will never trust the Police. Over the past few years because a member of my family as a criminal record I ahve been harrassed. I have had my home searched several times, I have been arrested at my place of work, been threatened by the police and had my front door kicked off and my house ransacked. Bet your thinking must be something, wrong I am female and hold a Senior Management Position, have never been in trouble with the police. Every search they have done and when they arrested me nothing as ever been found and I have never been charged with anything. This is harrassment ....... Do we live in a Police state. I have complained to IPCC but that's Police investigating Police, so they continue to harrass me and I have no one to turn to.
22nd Jul 09 08:07

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Intresting story ,I am a 53 yr old registered nurse, I too dont trust the police either,They arrested me after I Moved builders wire from against my wall, put there by a squatter trying to claim land ,the squatter accused me of damage to his wire fence , so the police arrested me and kept me locked up all night after working a night shift previously, I too have no previouse convictions,and the police chose to beleve the squatter ,I was a easy target for them.prior to moving the fence I had asked the police if I could move it .they said I could ,but still arrested me ,I still feel violated by them ,no further action was taken against me but being locked up for hours ,having D.N.A. taken and being questioned and kept for hours by them means I no longer trust them ,as a nurse I have spent my life caring for people ,and never would have exspected this to happen to me.
20th Jul 09 08:07

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NJ

If you treat somebody like a criminal - they will act like a criminal. Mr Hicks is naive and obviously has involvement with the police through family of something. It makes me angry when people seem to stereotype anybody. But anybody with an ounce of sense knows that there are easier careers than the police. It's the same with all government bodies - they hire the people that nobody else will employ or those who like the office they occupy. Some police are good - but they often don't use their own discretion like they used to do. Police have always been feared and rightly so - the "bobbies" used to collar you if you were drunk and give you a beating and send you on your way. Served you right for being an idiot. But now they arrest you and put you in the cells, giving an indelible stain on your reputation. I went down the wrong path because I was angry at so many people in my life - and my first time I was arrested for nothing as a kid. This experience and the bullying the police gave me meant I disliked them from then on. But the other problem is they know nothing about how they come across to the public, and think to themselves "why should we?". It's so easy when you are in power to think "well I can do this because it's us and them" but it needs more sites like this. Just use your judgement in future and try and get to know at least one trusted officer. There must be at least one?
18th Jul 09 12:07

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grumpyoldwoman

I think Terri means that you may cross paths with a less than law abiding policeman!

(I have met some, they do exist!)
8th Jul 09 07:07

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Mr Hicks

To the poster of 08-jul-17:55
I mean no offence,but I do not understand what you mean.whose paths may cross?and what may all be rosy?
8th Jul 09 07:07

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Terri

Yes Mr Hicks, until the day your paths cross, not all may be as law abiding as you'd hoped it would be. On the other hand, all may be rosy.
8th Jul 09 05:07

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Mr Hicks

I have a question to pose-
Can you be Anti-Police and a respectable member of society at the same time?
Personally as a Law abiding member of society I back the police to the hilt.
8th Jul 09 09:07

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buttermint

Many people do not know, but an independent witness to police misbehaviour is entitled to make a complaint to the IPCC. That is, a person does not have to be the direct victim of police misbehaviour in order to register a complaint.

I have recently observed two childish police officers harassing a small group of teenagers, who were doing nothing wrong at all. I very cautiously made a mental note of their numbers and have made an official, written complaint to the IPCC about their behaviour.

I urge others to be vigilant and report police misbehaviour that you, as an INDEPENDENT WITNESS, have observed. You are entitled to do so. You do not have to be the victim of these childish, low intelleigence thugs, to amke an official complaint which then has to be investigated.
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annie

my son was outside our house the police pulled up mistaked him for another person. When my son tried to tell them who he was they sprayed him with gas threw him onto my neighbours garden strapped his legs handcuffed him bashed his head into the ground kicked him punched him in front of witnesses spayed him again and locked him up in a cell for 12 hours under his own name he was released without even being questioned or anything. I took him to his doctor and the doctor wrote down all his bruising which was to his face back stomack legs neck. He had truncheon marks all over him and scuff marks on his side where they kicked him. Since then every time we report anything to the police nothing is done.
8th Jun 09 06:06

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Yehiaur

I was standing outside my front door ( main door flat, no garden ) I was talking to a really good friend. I'd been off the booze for months. I wanted to keep my head straight. I'd been distributing footage of the police violence from the G20. Before I knew what was happening, a police car pulled up.I had been seen taking a drink from my friend's bottle ( which is true ) My 2 yr. old was bouncing around ( happily ) beside us. Suddenly, I'm a drunk in chare of a child. They wouldn't breathalyze me, so I could prove I wasn't drunk. It's the way I reacted towards PC Nasty that caused the problems. I told him he was a disgrace to the service. Got my DNA harvested under some new law. The stuff the police are saying is complete lies. I don't know what to do.
7th Jun 09 02:06

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truthbeknown

A very pathetic and thoughtless response to the points raised about Menendez Mike P, on the contrary the intelligence and officers involved in the killing of Menendez clearly were complete halfwitted thugs on a ruthless power trip . The irony could not be clearer who the "scumbags" are in this situation... ... The truth is always hard to accept............... Mike P April -9 -2009 "I regard the police as my equals" Are you sure about this?
6th Jun 09 01:06

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Connor

I find it absolutely disgusting that these acts of depravity are cloaked by authority. What the fekk' is happening here!? Barely covered by national news so who is paying who whilst this sickening, life destroying criminal activity of the lowest form continues? This is only the tip of the iceberg.

Well, I suppose the local elections are the priority here.
3rd Jun 09 11:06

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Connor B

On March 27, 2009 6 asian men were arrested for the sexual exploitation and rape of little/young girls. This despicable paedophile ring is located in Northern Britain. As usual, the police were obsessively concerned with asian neighbourhood sensitivities & political correctness

Police spokesman said that it was important to maintain a low profile in order to keep the impact and disturbance caused to surrounding communities to a minimum. He added: "Uniformed officers from the Safer Neighbourhood Teams will be issuing 'leaflets' to residents following the raid to reassure them and explain some details of the operation." See article below.

Mother's had to beg police to intervene and stop the men exploiting their young daughters:

Zulfqar Hussain, 46, and Qaiser Naveed, 32, from East Lancashire, were jailed for five years and eight months after exploiting two girls aged under 16 by plying them with alcohol and drugs before having sex with them.

Parts of the country with large Asian communities, white girls as young as 12 are being targeted for sex by older Asian men yet the authorities are unwilling to act because of fears of being labelled racist.

Campaigners claim that hundreds of young girls are already being passed around men within the Asian community for sex, she said that attempts to raise the problem with community leaders had met with little success, with most of them being in a state of denial about it.

Interesting to note that a television documentary that exposed the huge numbers of Pakistani asian men involved in this paedophilia ring was stopped twice from being televised. Eventually it was shown. Some surmise upcoming elections played a role in its initial cancellations.

Feckless British police and vote whoring politicians, as shown by their persistent refusal to publicly condemn & swiftly deal with such actions, are happy to continue to keep (gangs of) paedophiles exploitation and rape of young girls hidden.
26th May 09 07:05

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Annie

Beware of racist coward british and canadian police using wall see through technologies and audio listening in devices and long distance cameras to peep into Asians' homesin connivance with neighbours to dehumanizingly harass asians in their homes wailing sirens from outside each time asians make any living body movements in their own and rented homes, waking, sleeping, going to toilet, eating, praying, etc, for women.

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16th May 09 08:05

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Tony G

I don't understand the concept of British troops fighting in Afghanistan. We are constantly hearing from the Government how British troops are keeping drugs, mainly heroin from UK streets.

Am I being stupid but I thought this was a matter for the UK police. So, what are the 'drug squad' up to all day long? Have they not got their finger on the pulse, no idea as to when and where this heroin enters our tiny Isle?

What are they being paid to do exactly, is this not their job?

I was always under the impression that drugs was a matter for the police. Silly ole me, I should've known better, drugs are a military matter.

Have roles switched? When war breaks out we should count upon the police to answer the bugle call.
6th May 09 11:05

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peter

all the encouters ive ever had have been similar to your experiences
6th May 09 11:05

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MikeP

"it takes a stronger and more intelligent individual to see the real truth....I can see what area you fall into.
jim 15-Apr-2009 23:55 "

.... and obviously you are that superior person. Well said, Jim. Maybe when you learn to write your opinions might make sense, but then again, maybe not!
16th Apr 09 08:04

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MikeP

Nathan :

"I tend to mouth off a bit to the law "
You start out looking for problems then don't you?

"because I have seen over and over how every cop I meet is an elitist"
You probably only come into contact with the law when you've committed an offence.

"They waste our time. No police officer can help you even if you need them. "
They are there to protect decent people from miscreants and criminals. If you fit into that category, yes, you will perceive their actions as wasting your time.

"All we really get nailed for is being drunk in 'public', 'public' urination and smoking weed. "
Anti social behaviour should not be tolerated.

"for every dollar they fine me, I cause 5 to police property. "
How childish and vindictive.

"I can only pray that one day, educated voters will become angered at how much we have to pay to police and their numbers will be diminished. We must challenge elitism "
Elitism? You are simply jealous of anyone on a highe level than yourself. Get real.

My dealings, limited though they have been, with the police in the USA (I assume that's where you're ranting from) have been extremely coridal and useful. But then I'm not a criminal scumbag lowlife, and I regard the police with respect, as my equals.

Maybe you should adopt the same approach and learn how to behave as part of a community
9th Apr 09 09:04

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Nathan H

I tend to mouth off a bit to the law because I have seen over and over how every cop I meet is an elitist who has a better idea of how to run my life. I agree that police are continuously empowered beyond boredom and have truly nothing better to do. Not that my time is necessarilly precious, I can't stand their presence. They waste our time. No police officer can help you even if you need them. Most of the people I talk to around here (Golden, Colorado) agree that this pleasant town has effectively transformed into a police state. My family and friends decree fear of police contact, even if we are assaulted. The system is feeding off of its own people who typically aren't doing anything. All we really get nailed for is being drunk in 'public', 'public' urination and smoking weed. And honestly, if the government really wants us to be sheep, why should they keep the biggest cash crop in the nation (and other nations) illegal? That is a far different subject, however. Most people will not bother to go through the rigourous process of making a single complaint about the harshness/ineffectiveness of the law because it is designed to disregard feedback. Our outdated and largely ignored construct of 'freedom' is making the common man afraid to go outside and invevitably face Johnny Law. No matter, I act for my nonconfrontational bretheren; for every dollar they fine me, I cause 5 to police property. Its a vicious cycle because as they raise fines, their costs go up. I can only pray that one day, educated voters will become angered at how much we have to pay to police and their numbers will be diminished. We must challenge elitism.
9th Apr 09 08:04

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Lisa Marie

We have the misfortune of living next door to a police woman who for some strange reason also patrols the area in which she was born and raised. For the past 5 years our children have been subjected to countless episodes of verbal and physical abuse at the hands of her children. Despite the fact we have been to the school following most of these incidents, we have never had so much as an apology and it is not just our girls who have suffered. After our 6 year old daughter was recently kicked, punched, throttled, had her head smacked off a wall and then thrown onto the road by her 10 year old son my partner went next door to take her to task about this, her reaction was "There's two sides to every story," and my partner had the door slammed in his face. Not quite the reaction we were expecting from a supposedly upstanding member of the community! We therefore decided to take this matter further and her son was charged with assault and reported to the childrens panel. Whilst I still strongly believe we were right in that decision it, it has cost us dearly. We have had all kinds of false accusations made against us, fines for this that and the next thing and there is no doubt in my mind as to where it has all come from. Funnily enough, when a younger local boy gave her son a bash she confronted the father in the street and punched him in the face! If only I'd thought of that in the first place, but of course, us mere mortals would never get away with such behaviour. This whole sorry mess has proved to me that there is definitely one rule for us and another for them and despite whatever we are told, some people are actually are above the law!
27th Mar 09 02:03

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the cushion

How come you never hear any of this stuff on the news? Oh wait it makes the police look bad...

The last few months we've been putting up with some 18/19 year olds booting our door and bolting for it, smashing up the gardens, breaking windows, starting fires, you get the point. Anyway an example of what happens nearly every night.

They were outside doing they're thing, and we called the police, to find out they had already been called. So we waited and watched for them to show up, FORTY FIVE F**KING MINUTES LATER, one policeman on a push bike shows up and doesn't even chase them. Just asked our neighbour for some water to put out a small fire in a garden and left. Thats nearly every night.

Today, our door got booted wide open, it still closes but others arn't so lucky. We found out we're not the only ones, My mum went out because she heard some shouting and found 4 women who are getting the same abuse as us and are getting told the same lies as us, the police said they were setting up more patrols in the area, Theres none of them about!

one woman had got her door kicked wide open, its now broke and she's really worried because she has 4 kids to look after who are all under 7, an elderly woman looking after her mum who's in a wheel chair and needs 24 hour care and a woman who can't sleep at night.

I also found out that one of the bigger buildings (used to be some shops) is on constant watch by policemen and security guards oh and its empty. Why is an empty building so important? its only a 5 minute walk from mine, why does it takes so long for them to show up? They must have to finish they're cups of tea or something important like that.

things like this are just ridiculous, they're incompetence is more than apauling, its ludicrous. I'm going to do what I can do get this known.

If anyone has anymore story's please email me, I'm only 17 but I'm a good listener and more mature than others my age. the.cushion@hotmail.co.uk
13th Mar 09 03:03

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truthbeknown

The police will always abuse their powers and try to give you a guilt trip afterwards...they are in the majority pathological liars, extremely brutal and have issues with authority....( even the police hate the police)...they get away with most crimes especially GBH...and have been psychologicaly brainwashed.....there are three kinds of coppers.....good coppers who eventually leave because they can't stand the corruption.....cowardly coppers who are intimidated by corruption....and last but not least horrid coppers who are completely bent and have sold their soul to the devil......they never leave.
27th Feb 09 05:02

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tiger3

It's about time the police were monitored and 'policed' closely and seriously by an active independant body with harsh punishments for the ones caught abusing their positions. We no longer have a police force that acts to protect the public anymore. I don't know of anyone, not even the little eighty year old lady down the road, who trust and respect this bunch of bullying, underdog outcasts anymore. A new police force needs to be created in this country with an emphasis on employing people who have not got that huge chip on their shoulder and are not after a quick power fix. This gentleman's storey comes as no shock as most people know this is what goes on today with our disgusting police criminals.
23rd Feb 09 01:02

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demelsa

Dont feel at all bad about your feelings towards the police. I have witnessed them lying and acting inappropriately too, often abusing their position. This is not to say that I no longer believe there are honest cops out there, (my brother is one!).
However, I was offered a bribe, and was asked to donate sexually by an officer of the law, and he would get me some favours in regards to my speeding ticket, hence, I never got the favour, and even ended up losing my drivers license and car!!! And no, it wasn't because I wasn't a good screw!!! That same officer always magically turned up in the same street, or right behind me, for months before he propositioned me. In the end, I really wanted justice, but I decided it wasn't worth the hassle to try and get it, so I have just earmarked him for a speedy case of karmic retribution!!! Believe me, he will get it.
14th Feb 09 10:02

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vigilante

My boyfriends car was broken into last week and was quite badly damaged we phoned the police who told us that an officer would be with us sometime that day so we sat in and waited which meant that my boyfriend had to have the day off work we waited and waited and still no police so at around 2pm (we had reported the crime at 7am) my boyfriend decided that he would phone them and find out what time they were coming, next comes the shocking part , when he eventually managed to get in touch with them they told him they wouldnt be coming out because of the weather WHAT !? yes it was snowing but all the roads had been gritted and were clear this just goes to show how lazy and useless they are ! A week before this my mums car (a landrover discovery) had all five tyres slashed along with thirty other cars in our village (both our cars that had been targeted were parked on the road outside our house under a streetlamp) well guess what the police did ............. F**K ALL ! oh apart from give everyone a crime number, well guess what , I dont want a poxy crime number what I want is for you to catch the thieving scum who broke into my boyfriends car and the malicious idiots who think its funny to go around slashing peoples tyres !!!!!
14th Feb 09 03:02

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Andrei

Henry, you're a complete and total pansy. Firstly, have you ever heard of the comma? Learn how to use it. The fact that you're illiterate alone doesn't necessarily show your intelligence (or rather, lack thereof) but the moronic way you say you'd "beat the authority out of them" and that "women shouldn't have such dominance" shows you have some real psychological issues -- primarily that you're a pathetic wuss.

Boo hoo, cry me a river, the mean old lady cop hurt my fragile ego!

As for the author of the article, he (or she!) is also a worthless pansy. "I got drunk and stupid and all I got was this lousy shoulder dislocation!"

Here's an idea for you two MORONS -- stop being MORONS.
12th Feb 09 09:02

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PC Big Ears

One day while waiting to be served at a major police station, there were people going in and out, names were called and the process went on.

As the crowd dwindled a name was called which sounded a bit like mine but the accent of the police officer wasn’t clear so I looked over, said, “Pardon” to the officer but he didn’t reply, so I said, “Pardon” to which he gave me a smirk so I looked him in the eye but his grin confirmed he knew jolly well what I asked and did not have his mind on other things.

Eventually, I saw that by someone else getting up rather reluctantly after this that it wasn’t my name he called but the officer’s body language was along the line, “It doesn’t matter, it’s not you, so go and sit down. I’m not answering you or repeating myself.”

At least he could have repeated what he said or been a bit more polite rather than trying to be macho thinking he was so clever.

It is only a small factor but if this is the mentality of some of our police officers then no wonder there is apathy in protecting the general public from crime within the communities.

Too many people with authority who have this kind of mentality think they have the right to act like God.
19th Dec 08 01:12

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Justice

Hi Peter, email me at justlaw999@yahoo.com i'd be interested in hearing how you got on as I have had exactly the same experience. Looks like they don't enjoy being taken to task when they break the law. So you are not on your own.

Looks like if you complain all you can expect is abuse and harassment from them.
16th Dec 08 09:12

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Freddie

Unfortunately it is a chicken and egg type of argument about who lost faith in whom first. The police rely on help from the general public, and deserve that help, as much as the public rely on them, and have a right to.
Behaviour breeds behaviour and this cycle needs to end. Until such time as both sides start to give again it is a void that cannot be repaired. I have an obvious bias (being a former police officer) but there are occasionally things I read that disturb me. Take the post below from DAW. It claims that police do not "respect our right to a quiet & peaceful life". This troubles me as I cannot see that an officer walking along a street would approach a member of the public, except for help or to be sociable, for no reason at all. There has to be a trigger somewhere. Something they do or have done or are known etc. That's not the actions of a police officer. They don't walk along and choose a random target for no reason. That is what a mugger etc. does.
The police are definitely not without fault. I'll never claim they are. What they do suffer from is a lack of understanding of their role among the general public. It has evolved but the public have not been kept informed. That is the fault of the home office. I sympathise with people that feel they have got a raw deal from the police. It must be incredibly frustrating. What I ask is, do these people understand why what happened, happened? Have they sought proper explanation or just put it down to being 'fobbed off'?
Attitudes across the board on both sides need to change. The police unfortunately feel that the public won't meet them half way, and as I said, behaviour breeds behaviour.
26th Nov 08 12:11

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DAW

Untill the police clean there act up, and stop painting everyone with the same brush, crime will never come down, I would never help the police, it is not what they stand for, but how they go about things, they need the public, and by treating us like sh!t, less and less will help them, it is the hierarchy of the police force, that need to drum it in to there lesser of the intellect Comrades, that they are there to " HELP PROTECT & REASSURE not HARRAS & INTIMIDATE, innocent members of the public, there PR = SH!T, how can we respect those who do not respect our right to a quiet and peaceful life .
25th Nov 08 01:11

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B Jones

The police tend to disassociate themselves from normal society. After time we look like another species and the enemy. The ‘system’ can make their job frustrating and difficult these days. If in a situation always ignore the younger ones and direct your conversation to the older old-school coppers if possible, they tend to be more human.
If beaten and arrested by police insist on seeing a doctor who can ask for injuries to be photographed, see a solicitor and press charges. You’ll be offered deals, don’t take them. You can also get compensation for poor treatment.
10th Nov 08 12:11

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doc

Rest assured that your experiences are not uncommon. The Peelian principle of police being the public and the public being the police, has died. It is true that good police officers exist but police society has evolved to serve itself and a plutocracy. It is corrupted by FreeMasonry and unseen links to commercial power. I am saddened through self realization and experience, that our flawed democracy became the casualty of greed and self interest.
22nd Oct 08 08:10

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fed up person

I AGREE the police are not doing there job properly
20th Aug 08 05:08

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peace on our streets.

70% of Police time taken up responding to complaints about youth behaviour. (Official!!)

This is because they do not STOP the behaviour. They prioritise, target, crack down for month after month. Hundreds of expensive hours spent on HOT AIR. And the ASB goes on and on and on.
2nd Aug 08 01:08

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Nedjimb0

bad times, I live in the states and I thought it was bad here

few individuals even deserve the kind of power given to police officers, and worst of all, anybody who isn't a felon can pretty much become a cop.

I've had a few experiences with the police, enough to show me that it isn't so black and white an issue of "good cop or bad cop". Really, there's probably a lot of great guys and gals keeping the streets safe, but if you spend enough time on your pedestal of authority with your sexy uniform and deal with enough punks, it's hard not to start profiling people or being an a-hole to some guy when he makes you mad, knowing you can get away with it.

Police need more accountability to the citizens. They are out there TO PROTECT AND SERVE and ALL of them should understand that that badge doesn't give them a free pass to screw folks over. It's a shame that those douchebags did that to you, they are scum. That kind of intimidation amounts to terrorism.

I'd like to say that I don't distrust all cops, but that just isn't true. The kind of crap I've seen and heard disgusts me to the point where AT THE VERY LEAST I expect the worst but hope for the best when I deal with cops. If you're cordial and respectful to the police then at the very least you'll avoid making the sh*t cops mad and giving them an excuse to treat you like a punk.
31st Jul 08 01:07

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Henry

I got lost once I stopped 2 police women to ask for directions to the tube station all of a sudden from telling me the station is across the road the woman officer started questioning me looking putting her eyes all over me asking my name what I was doing in the area, I told them I had an interview she asked which job and so much questions that made me feel sick. First of all its sad being pulled in with such questions when you just want to find your way home and me being such a honest guy I felt like they just took advantage of my mind I asked what’s up with the questions they said its nothing its just something for anti terrorism telling me its just a report to say they stopped me and I said to them you did not stop me I stopped you. When police see that they are wrong they act like robots with no sense trying their hardest to make you agree that they are always right they cause more problems than they solve. I have never been arrested before I honor the law and I respect it but after that day I hate police all of them when I see them on the road with their plastic smiles I give them bad looks. The biggest fattest disrespect of it all it to have women police questioning me like I am a criminal, I wouldn’t have been so angry if male police did this to me but I can’t take the women having such power over men for the troubles and hardship men face in life this sort of thing can cause a man to want to prove something that will cause him to regret life. Having 2 officer women standing in front of a honest man lying and questioning me like am a threat even though I stopped them is an abomination to me serious if they were not officers I would have beaten authority out of them until they bow down
25th Jul 08 11:07

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Freddie

Thats very constructive. Thank you for your valued contribution.
15th Jul 08 08:07

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Bill Coop

Once you are known to the police you will never get a fair hearing. I live in a small village, Lyme Regis, and the police station has no sergeant, only constables. The fact is they are not too bright and to make matters worse standards have been lowered recently. This is a real problem in that the emotional part of the brain has more connections than the logical part so that it takes a reasonable amount of intelligence to overide prejudice.
What you need is a brave solicitor which can be hard to find depending on where you live
29th Jun 08 12:06

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Freddie

I don't think it is a coincidence but it does sound more like it is the woman rather than the police that messing you about. The police would not report your stroke to the DVLA in that way.
16th Jun 08 10:06

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Anti Stasi

I am a law abiding citizen who has never been involved with the police until recently. In March I was rammed by a car driven by a woman. I stopped got her name, address and phone numbers. I tiold my Insurance company and the police but they said I must report it within 24 hours, or not at all, with my insurance documents but I had mislaid them. The woman reported for not stopping, a lie. A few weeks later two police came to my house, one toldme to bring my misplaced docments into a police station or else I would be prosecuted. They knew from their checks I was insured but insisted. I found the documents and brought them into a station. Meanwhile I learnt the woman who wrote off my care had said I had a stroke, another lie. Ten weeks after the incident I reported a car blocking my driveway, it was a policem's car. Ten days later I got a letter from the DVLA demanding I provide proof I had not had a stroke. Coincidence?
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