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Well it looks as if the TV Licensing people haven't got the message yet, even though their enforcement officers paid us a visit just over a week ago.  I moved to this house a few months ago by the way and have so far completely ignored all the warnings that they have sent demanding that I buy a TV Licence or possibly face a fine.

I don't see why I should communicate with these parasites every time I move house to tell them I still do not have a television.  Why should I?  It's a clear case of being guilty until you prove you are innocent.  As for the enforcement officer with the TV detector van that turned up last week, well he wanted to come in and take a look around to make sure we didn't have a TV.  Naturally I wasn't going to permit a stranger to come into my home without some more official looking documentation.

That TV Licensing badge looked authentic enough, but this guy could have been anyone and I didn't see a van up the street!  He could even have been there just to case the joint for some future robbery or it could have been a distraction burglary, you hear about them all the time.  I sent him away to get a warrant because he wasn't about to enter my house without one.  He mumbled something about making a phone call and that they had detected a television in my house.  I pointed out that the only thing they could have detected was the computer as I don't have a TV.

A sample threatening letter from TV Licensing

That was that I thought as I closed the door and I still haven't heard anything further regarding an inspection so who knows.  I had thought that our little conversation was enough to set the record straight, tick in the box that this house doesn't have a TV etc.  Apparently not though because I received yet another threatening letter from the TV Licensing people addressed to The Occupier.  Very strange that, because the enforcing officer that turned up on my doorstep took a note of my name.  I would have thought that information should have filtered through they system somehow.

Anyway, this letter from TV Licensing is actually the reason for writing this gripe (click on the image to read it in full).  It's the tone of it that I really don't like.  It comes across as very threatening and intimidating and if any other company were to send out this kind of material on a regular basis, I am pretty sure there would be a national uproar.  How do they get away this?

It begins with the words OFFICIAL WARNING in underlined capitals.  A warning of course means cautionary advice about something imminent (especially imminent danger).  An official warning therefore carries more weight.  It means you've done something wrong (or they think you've done something wrong).  Even the typeface comes across as a bit official and stern and this is deliberate I think.  Then there's the liberal scattering of words and phrases such as "police", "criminal" and "court appearance" in the text.

In my opinion this document isn't designed to help you buy a TV Licence, rather it is designed to SCARE you into buying one and that to me is just not on!  When did it suddenly become okay for companies to send out a threatening communication like this?

As I mentioned earlier, I don't have a TV and I don't want one.  But I also don't believe that I should have to inform these people whenever I move house that I still don't want a television.  I especially resent being harassed (yes, that is exactly what this is) and treated like a criminal because I dare to stray from the norm and not buy a TV licence.

Can you imagine how an elderly person would feel having received a threatening notice like this?  Not particularly nice is it?

By: Kenny

How to deal with TV Licensing

Avoiding TVL/BBC harassment
Someone very kindly sent in a link to this site. It contains lots of useful information about dealing with the TV Licensing people and in particular what they can and can't do. I'm inclined to draw your attention to the section called "Tips for avoiding TVL/BBC harassment" on the left hand menu at the top of the page.


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Kevin. Kade

I have previously had an enforcement officer inspect my property and was very polite and made two cups of coffee!!yesterday I received nos 13 threatening letter , this time I did not open it, but in marker wrote return to sender!! If as and when the next visit happens they will Not be allowed to enter my property without a warrant. Considering the money they are spending harassing people who, have lived in the same property for over 20 years without a tv..... RantRant Rant. As previously mentioned these letters are very threatening , with the assumption that we are Guiltyof?? How much money will these numpties spend before they get the message????
20th Mar 14 01:03

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What are we paying for?

In 1922 a radio license cost 10 shillings

In 1950s an annual B/W TV licence cost around £60 equivalent to today's money

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_licensing_in_the_United_Kingdom_(historical)

It was the introduction of colour TV that caused the licence to more that double to today's licence fee, of around £145 per annum

But surely the technology is cheaper today.

As consumers we have not got the gain from this, instead our airwaves are filled with crap: quiz programmes, soaps, unwanted sports, poor news coverage, poor drama, crime series bought from USA. Too many overpaid TV presenters, who main aim is self glorification.

BBC 2 has gone down hill

Too many repeats.
10th Mar 14 08:03

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collar

They have no right to issue threats. Basically 98% of all ITV output has advertisements. And it's only by sending these letters that they annoy people to the point of distraction. They HAVE to send some letters (although some of the letters are too threatening, you've all had at least one..)

But as it's such an expense, what does it say about the bad-heads who knock upon a persons door? The state of their nerves must be fragile to say the least - how many bad-heads are there that do this door knocking?

Is this a new form of culture suppression? Sinister aint the word!
10th Mar 14 05:03

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collar

This is shocking - absolutely shocking. When the TV licence expired, I started doing without a TV and watched videos instead and I'm no fan of the BBC either! I simply bought a freeview box too and a few decent videos and there's not a lot theycan do about it. Anything I'm un-liking I can usually get on DVD, on YouTube or videos, of which there are many.

For the three years I owned a licence I used to rent a TV from a TV dealer for a full colour set, they didn't even bother to mend the damn thing!
10th Mar 14 11:03

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marmalade

So what is the last comment supposed to be all about? Just more bull-crap if you ask me.
5th Mar 14 09:03

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vtg

Impossible to communicate with bbc so i've posted here

Is it Flash player or your site?

BBC iplayer, mostly plays pre-recorded tv but regularly drops out on radio. If I open three instances of iplayer and switch between them I can get continuity of audio stream but this just demonstrates that it is NOT my bandwidth that is at fault. I am going to ditch it. This is NOT public broadcasting I am having to revert to radio wave reception. Is this FLASH player or your site? It says I do not have enough band-width which is not correct as demonstrated by your own bandwidth gizmo.

For your information, 4od is unplayable because of a drm or digital rights error, which is incorrect also. I now only use YouTube which works fine.

This digital stuff is substandard and so infuriating that I am switching to stations other than yours.

I am going to make a youtube video of how rubbish these players are and hopefully soon you will come up with a fix or ditch Flash as I am prety certain it is incompatible with your players.

Please stop sending me threatening license fee reminders. These are rude and threatening even though I NEVER watch live programs. How dare you assume that I do. You are assuming I do not know or give a damn about the law! I will NOT give you my name as I do NOT want to be on your database as I don't trust you with my details and you have insulted me. Please stop the threatening letters going to xxxxxxxxxxx Your license site will not accept submissions without a name. This is wrong because I see no reason for you to HAVE my name.

Do not tell me you are nothing to do with the licensing authority. You sort it as it is your service they are affecting.

These problems have been happening for about six months now and I have tried all supposed fixes to no avail. You are supplying a substandard service that is NOT fit for purpose then insulting and threatening me wit NO justification or grounds.

All you have done is succeed in making me very angry and to actively avoid your output.
2nd Sep 13 01:09

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jobbby

If they think I will pay them a single dime, they can kiss my white, naked ass.
9th Mar 13 05:03

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andy

hi there. i just want to make a point across.
please can you try and sort out the BBC to fund themselfs like others.
i dont want to pay a licence fee to fund paedoes.
i just want to pay for the sky i pay for.
it will be good if the BBC would scramble the signal as if they want to watch the BBC then they can pay a small price ontop of sky to watch it.
many of us dont use the BBC as they are criminals and its an offence to fund a criminal.. i dont want anything to do with the BBC and if you look on my profile u will c that many others dont want to.i dont want the BBC to send letters all the time telling me i have to get a licence or i will be fined £1000. that is a threat to me. i dont want the BBC to send they poeple to my door and force me to pay a licence as that is a threat too.i dont want a licence from them , and when a letter from the BBC comes to my house its going in the bin.when they send someone to my house i wont give him/her my name and shut the door on them. im not going to sign anything or if i do then i will be fined. if not they cant fine me. please can you think about this. please can you e-mail me back. many thanks Mr A Jones...
andrewjones_1973@aol.co.uk
23rd Feb 13 08:02

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Jazz the Cat

Do you realise that TV Licensing callers have no legal rights to question you or enter your property? You are not obliged to answer ANY of their question or even reveal your identity, nor whether you are the householder.

Visit YouTube for a host of info and videos. The sooner the TV Licence system is removed, all the better. Also, there is no logical reason people should have to pay a fee to the BBC considering all the other channels available. The way it is, if you watch live broadcasts (any channels) the BBC wants your cash. Stuff that. Ban the license fee.
2nd Jan 13 03:01

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Nick

TVL continue to send these 'threatening and harrassing' letters (lost count of how many now), addressed to the 'Legal Occupier' to an unoccupied property, which is subject to a probate sale, following the death of my father, 2 years ago, despite my letters and returned letters stating property is unoccupied. I have even 'phoned them again, recently, explaining the situation and was assured the matter was now dealt with and they promised no further action for 12 months. Not surprisingly yet another 'threatening' letter arrived this week, dated December 2012.
it is obvious they do not take any notice of correspondence or even check local Council information or Estate Agent information, so I can only conclude their 'investigations' are not worthy of any further involvement of my time and efforts to advise them of the situation with this property they continue to bombard with their threats! I wonder who they will try to prosecute if they beleive a TV is being watched because an aerial and Satellite Dish are connected to the property? I'm fed up of this constant reminder of my father's death!
2nd Jan 13 12:01

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ska

You don't need one if you watch BBC on catchup, It's that simple.
28th Dec 12 12:12

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**** you!

Tv licence is a scam always has been. All there letters are just empty threats, they only have power if consent and play there game. The tv licence company have no lawful right to enter anybody's home to check anything period. Remember stay in lawful debate, it wins over legal hands down. Legislation requires your consent. Get educated.
9th Nov 12 11:11

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Gaz

I get one of these letters once a month, it's the usual computerised letter, more or less the same each month, like an automatic machine throwing them in the post.
To be honest I don't mind getting these letters as I get a laugh from thinking of the money they are wasting by sending them me and not getting any satisfaction.

I haven't had a TV license for 3 years, I have had 4 "visits" in all that time. But I have never answered the door to them. The fact is if they don't know your name and you don't contact them or sign anything they cannot do anything, they have no powers to enter your home either. Why would people let a stranger into their home anyway?
These people just love to scare people into buying a license, that is all, it is not illegal to not buy one.

Not having a license is NOT breaking the law either, if that was the case the police would of been to my place by now. I know some people who haven't had a license in 10 years and they've never had a police visit or been to court, they have just never had any contact with the license scumbags.
28th Oct 12 11:10

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grumpyoldwoman

I don't know why it was abolished in Australia, but it indeed was in 1974. Now the non-commercial network is partly funded by government grants.

So, everybody pays in the long run, whether they have a TV or not! Is that what you want M?

Or do you want adverts on every channel? I certainly don't.
13th Aug 12 05:08

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M

Thanks Yawn - Very good link. I often wonder how much they spend on Lawyers representing the BBC in the likes of these laws that force people into paying for these licences? That bill must be collosal. People need to stop paying this fee as i understand they did in Australia
13th Aug 12 04:08

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Annoyed!

I stopped paying for a TV licence when I found out my local MP was claiming the licence fee in his expenses. Why should I subsidize him and all the other scumbags that claim at our expense?
6th Aug 12 12:08

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grumpyoldwoman

jobby, I don't know who you use this defence with; it's about as much good as saying "I only watch ITV" or "I only watch videos". It just won't wash with anyone who counts.

You've been lucky so far; but just remember the rest of us are subsidising your viewing!
4th Aug 12 09:08

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grumpyoldwoman

Not quite with you jobby, you seem to be implying that you don't need a licence with a freeview box. I'm afraid it ain't so!
3rd Aug 12 06:08

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Mike

I am sick of receiving BBC threatening letters. My Father died when he was in receipt of a free TV licence. On the day they buried my Father i got a threatening letter for the first time. I was in tears. As soon as he died i got threatened by the BBC. I also lost my brother due to sudden death. I am a lone and coping with repairs on my house. I have to pay my own Home insurance, Car Insurance, Council Tax (Rates), Electric, plus much more all on my own. Then i get these letters from the BBC pay up or be fined. I am just about sick of them. Two letters in one month. Now i am getting threatened with an inspector coming around my house. You get people living in houses with families of four adults with lots of money coming in who may not miss the money - but to someone on their own it is a nightmare having this forced on them year in and year out until the grave. It is pathetic. I am trying to cope with the loss of my family. I do not need this. Why can't i watch a TV - why should i pay for this so that stars can be on six figure salaries whilst i suffer. If they want to keep there BBC licence fee why can't they make it so that all adults pay the same so that it evenly distributed - even if it is 50P per week from people's salaries - this would mean no more threatening letters, no office to maintain in Bristol - no more court cases - no more bills etc. There must be a better way than bullying people and forcing this on people including the elderly. How much does the BBC pay its lawyers to write out these laws to bully people into paying this tax every year. There are on-line petitions calling for change or its abolishion - why are they not being heard? Why is the law on the side of the BBC - No one represents the people. I just litteraly hate it. Nothing changes.
3rd Aug 12 12:08

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Mike

I have not had a TV for 33 years.

I informed TVLA in writing (1999) with a fairly emphatic statement that ‘I did not have a TV, was not intending to purchase one, would of course inform them if I did, etc, etc’ after getting one letter that was slightly less threatening than usual. The letters stopped for 2 years and then the visits & letters restarted.

These people are ignorant trolls.

TVLA uses UKMail to collect letters (and get paid to do so) then UKMail uses Royal Mail who, as a 'common carrier', does not get paid to deliver (the expensive bit). So I now put the so-called reminders into a separate envelope addressed to TVLA Bristol, but without a stamp. This now means that poor old Royal Mail gets to charge excess postage when delivering TVLA's letter back to them! Cross-subsidising a truly useful service and hopefully causing TVLA grief and admin problems. My address still remains on the reminder’s envelope – I really do not care what they try on! They might get the message one day.

Please - everyone should do this!

And if they come a-visiting again, I still do not have a TV after 33 years…
10th May 12 05:05

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El Macca

Just let them in confirm you have no tv. That's it. Why all the fuss. No one likes paying the fee but it's the law. I don't like paying tax or having to do 70mph on the motorway but it's the law you nobhead.
24th Apr 12 11:04

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not guilty

i am at my wits end with tv licence, yes i have a tv i dont watch it i was advised that if the aerial was not connected i was fine, i had a visit i foolishly let him in and yes the tv was not connected , i was taken to court as i pleaded noit guilty and it went to trial, i was fined 305 pounds because i have money others were caught using theres and got a fine of 40.00 looters and criminals get less im totally distraught with it all
7th Oct 11 07:10

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hairyfairy

I`m on the easy pay scheme, & if I`m just a couple of days late with a payment, I get nasty letters threatening me with being thrown off the scheme if I don`t pay up immediately. I think the tv licence should be abolished, & though adverts are irritating sometimes, I would rather put up with them than be stung for £13 a month.
14th Sep 11 01:09

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grumpyoldwoman

I'd send the letters back to them (in the original envelope, no stamp) with something like "we do not have a television" written all over them in large red letters.

A call to the citizens advice bureau might also be a good idea.
7th Sep 11 07:09

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Gomez

We have been living in our rented property for coming upto 5 months, we do not own a TV or anything to do with one, therefore do not have a license. We received our first threatening letter about a month ago, I noticed the address was totally wrong and a number of people had written on the outside of the envelope 'not at this address' or 'try (and named our address)' anyway we had another letter last week, with totally the wrong address again and also not address with our names, threatening to take us to court, the visit from the enforcement officer, court costs and what to expect in court. I really don't want to get in touch with them as there is no need, the cost of the telephone call/writing and sending a letter, and I dont want to give them my correct details as I will be playing into there hands....we are legal, but I am made to feel like a criminal, we dont have TV, we dont want a TV, we dont watch a TV, ....what would other people in our situation do? Thanks
6th Sep 11 10:09

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thinker

do you know what would be a good idea? if everyone kept the threatening letters form the bbc for 6 months and then write on them return to sender, and there is no need to put stamps on them, the offices would inundated with them, just imagine 2or 3 hundred thousand letters sent back, it would take some sorting of those.
24th Aug 11 08:08

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thinker

this from the justice of the peace (magistrates) blog
and can be seen online
Earlier this year on 9th April I discussed the organisation which is responsible for funding the BBC; TV Licensing. This organisation is also responsible for prosecuting those who watch TV in contravention of the law by not having a license. This body has the full trappings of a prosecuting authority with its own fines department, courts listing department and of course its own prosecuters. It also has its own publication department which sends to interested parties three or four times a year "In Brief" with information of interest.

This newsletter is sent out to all magistrates who are members of the Magistrates` Association. I have copied the current edition`s four pages at the end of this post. Roughly 10% of JPs choose not to join the Association. I would presume the Association receives a fee for this although I stand to be corrected on this assumption. TV Licensing is but one of many prosecuting bodies which use the magistrates` courts system to enforce their regulations. For those unaware, using a TV without a license is a criminal offence. It is also a criminal offence eg to be a ticket tout or to ill treat an animal or to contravene planning regulations. The organisations responsible for bringing prosecutions on those matters do not send regular information to magistrates. I question why TV Licensing does so. Is it to inform magistrates who adjudicate on such cases or to subtly influence them in general? If the latter I can assure them that they have failed totally. Indeed most of my colleagues on my bench would happily see TV license evasion be de-criminalised and tried as a civil matter.

Whilst the BBC is a nationalised business the requirement that using the service without a license is a criminal offence is arbitrary. It is time for change.
23rd Aug 11 06:08

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thinker

Fraudulent Practice
TWO Sidcup residents received court summonses for not having a television licence, when one did not even own a television, a court has heard.

Father-of-four Oluwagbenga Olaniyan, aged 45, of Oak Road, Gravesend, made up interviews with the Sidcup residents, because he feared losing his job, Maidstone Crown Court was told.

Olaniyan was working as a TV licence investigator and was given a target of tracking down one licence dodger an hour during his 37-hour working week.

Those who did not reach their targets were in danger of losing their £16,000-a-year jobs.

As a result, in 2005, Olaniyan fabricated four interviews, two with people in Sidcup and two in Gravesend.

The first they knew was when they received the summonses with a copy of their “interview”.

If Olaniyan’s activities had not been discovered, they could have faced fines of £1,000.

Olaniyan pleaded guilty to perverting the course of justice and four charges of false accounting. He was given a 40-week jail sentence, suspended for two years, and ordered to do 200 hours of unpaid work.
23rd Aug 11 10:08

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thinker

i have been reading about tvl people entering premises and starting to inspect tv sets.
they have been known to try to tune in tvs to broadcasting stations.
if the householder has no aerial attached to the tv and the tv is not tuned into any broadcasting stations, then according to Part 4 of the Communications Act 2003,this type of action is illegal by the tvl people and they are breaking the law as they can be seen to install the tv set, but only if the owner has taken every precaution to ensure that the set cannot receive broadcast stations. this is law by ofcom, please read the following for guidance, Part 4 of the Communications Act 2003
23rd Aug 11 08:08

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thinker

some years ago in England, a young woman had closed the curtains in her house, and removed her top so as not to get it wet when she was bathing her young child, who was in a plastic bath, and was unclothed.
one of the tvl inspectors, decided he needed to peep through the small gap in the curtains and seen the woman and her small child not properly clothed, the woman found out what had happened, and quickly took a case against tvl, on the peeping tom law also known as voyeurism and won her case, this was widely published in the newspapers at the time, and resulted in the tvl agent losing his job and i am sure compensation as well
22nd Aug 11 08:08

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thinker

as some tvl employees enter private property, and peep through your windows, and also have been known to get access to back gardens, especially if children are present, either in the house in the living room or playing in the back garden, and that these employees are not forthcoming in their identification, one would assume that they are there for purposes to spy on the children, and in this day and age, where there are undiscovered evil people, one could think the worst scenario. tvl employees should be able to produce identity and the fact they have been assessed by the proper authorities, as leaving the scene without identifying themselves, they could be seen as suspicious characters
21st Aug 11 04:08

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thinker

article 8 on human rights should cover many problems caused by tvl
Everyone has the right to respect for his private and family life, his home and his correspondence.
There shall be no interference by a public authority with the exercise of this right except such as is in accordance with the law and is necessary in a democratic society in the interests of national security, public safety or the economic well-being of the country, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, or for the protection of the rights and freedoms of others.
further more, intimidation and harassment, here is some info on it.
Proving harassment to secure a conviction

To obtain a conviction for criminal harassment, the prosecution needs to prove beyond all reasonable doubt, three elements:

the defendant has pursued a course of conduct
the course of conduct amounted to harassment of another person
the defendant knew or ought to have known that the course of conduct amounted to harassment.
I would look up nervous shock as in English law, and also get advice on it as well there are many good lawyers who could help.

Harassment is defined as causing alarm or causing distress, and a course of conduct which can include speech must involve conduct on at least 2 occasions. The incidents do not have to involve the same type of behaviour on both occasions.
21st Aug 11 04:08

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thinker

reading the comments below, and considering that there are children in most houses, should these people be let onto property where there are children, without having proper background checks, the reason I say this, is because it seems that many of these tvl employees have questionable characters, I say this because of the tactics many of them use to obtain info about households, something to think about!
19th Aug 11 09:08

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Thomas

i found out what bbc means: bully boys company
19th Aug 11 09:08

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Thomas

i thought that only the police could obtain a search warrant for any premises, in the case of crimes. As tvl is a private company that employees members of the public, i would have thought that judges would have more sense that to sign warrants for members of the public to enter your house to find out if you are watching tv.
If tvl can prove that you are watching without a license then should they not make a complaint to the local police and provide proof that you are watching tv or stealing their tv signals from the airwaves.
ps only a license is needed for watching or recording tv, tvls own statement on their website for all to see
19th Aug 11 06:08

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alvin

Equipe52,
operating under the name,
Team 365,
80 London Trading Estate,
Roding Road,
Becton,
London E6 6LS.

Equipe52, Ltd.
Office address,
C/o. London Registrars, Plc.
4th floor,
Haines House,
21 John Street,
London WC1N 2BP
I understand the above companies are responsible for the delivery of the mail sent out by TV Licensing. I obtained the information from a letter sent out by an employee of TV Licensing and by checking information on the internet. I don’t have a television. It’s not worth the license fee, there is too much rubbish on whatever channel is selected. The objects still send me their love letters each month; I have refused to reply because of the vile and implied threats contained within them. Team 365 also is a base for TV Licensing "Officers."
24th May 11 05:05

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Ensor

I refuse to spend my money on telephone messages to TV.licencing the last time I rang it cost me 87p.and still the letters keep coming.If they want us the honest public, to do their job use a 0800 number for us to use.
25th Mar 11 01:03

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Linda

I pay my tv license by direct debit. I am still receiving threatening letters accusing me of evading Payment. I am on benefits and have enough stress with keeping my head above water financially. I am disgusted and angry.
15th Mar 11 08:03

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Ettaariane

Im the pensioner that the TVL won't leave alone. I have not watched TV for five years and they constantly bombard me with threatening notifications of imminent home visits, fines, court etc. Heaven help us if Hoover or Bosch started to harass us to this extreme if we didn't have one of their washing machines etc. They really upset me and give me heart palpitations. I nearly bought a license just to keep them away. Its blackmail.
24th Feb 11 12:02

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Boblet

Years ago I had occation to go to court, I sold a car that susequently picked up a load of parking tickets. I had done every thing right by the book when I sold the car, & said so each time I was contacted, but officialdom insisted I should pay the fines. I disagreed and went to court. What a feeling it was when I was ask for my side of things. I produced all the relevent paperwork and informed the bench that copies had been sent to the officials, I would advise you to go to court, watching these BBC bullies getting their come uppance would give you a similar pleasure.
11th Feb 11 03:02

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Paul R

The BBC seem to have given up following a mocking response to the standard intimidating letter.I was disapointed not to have an interview with the enforcer. Re the outofwork fellows coment about getting a life, The main reason I dont need a TV is that I have life. I do admit to finding the tormenting of small minded officials and bullying organisations from time to time great fun. I have worked for the BBC as a consultant and have seen the waste first hand.
11th Feb 11 03:02

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Alvin T.

I have been receiving the vile mail from tv. licencing for some years. I have refused to answer them because of the way that they are composed. I do not have a television or anything that will pick up a tv. signal.
I received a visit from a creature of tv. licencing fame,on 28 January 2011, at 0855 hours. I'd just come out of the shower at the time and was not prepared,alas! I told him that I didn't have a television, didn't need a licence and didn't need tell them. I continued to say that if they didn't stop harrasing me I would be taking legal action. He said something like O.K. and walked away before I could continue. I am in a block of flats that requires a fob to open the entry door,How did he get in?
To-day,10 February 2011, I came in to another threat from them. Dated February 2011 it states that as I have not responded to their threats, an enforcement officer has been scheduled to visit this adress to find out if a television is being watched or recorded illegally.
I shall have to aquire a broom handle and have it suitablely sharpened at one end. Any suggestions as to what I could do with it?
10th Feb 11 06:02

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Miles

We are in exactly the same situation here. There are 9 of us tenants in the house, and the tv licensing company has sent a letter to every room and its legal occupier! The fact of the matter is they ARE attempting to threaten people into buying a tv licence. They barely make an effort to conceal that fact! With threats of legal action followed by offers to buy a tv licence on the next line! They have come across as hucksters and litigious bully-boys of the worst variety. We arent paying them a penny, and if they waste their time sending one of their lackeys round then we will be leaving him on the street.
8th Feb 11 01:02

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Mr Outofwork Grumpyoldgit

Get a life mate sheesh. £12 direct debit every month, simple and cheaper than my Virgin that I hardly watch, for good quality programming.
The amount of krp on my virgin is a joke, Sky is just a con, you pay to have it(100s of programs you wont watch) then you pay for what you want to watch and then pay when its on. Most have a TV in this country so the system works on that basis. If you don't then you show them you dont, simple. Don't forget many people do have a TV but don't pay for it, this makes it expensive for those who do. Personally I like having the BBC the way it is, viewers have more of a say in how the BBC is run than say SKY etc, Its also run and regulated for the licence payer rather than commercial interests or interests of the few that run it.

By the way no I don't work for the BBC, I just personally have more important concerns in my life
than the TV licence. You want to be more concerned with this government that's going to fk this country over.
25th Jan 11 11:01

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Paul R

I have offered to take part in an interview with an enforcement officer at a prearranged time for a nominal fee of £573, payable to myself in advance, however they have yet to send me the money and yet they still write threatening letters.
16th Oct 10 01:10

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hairyfairy

tell me about it! I am on the the so called easy pay scheme, & I pay £13 a month. I have kept up with my payments regularly, but I still get letters telling me that I`ve faalen behind with my payments. The BBC is just plain greedy, & the licence fee should be scrapped. I would rather they had advert breaks than be ripped off every month.
15th Oct 10 03:10

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mad at tv tax

I bought a TV licence when I moved into my new house in August (last month) Since I got my license ive had one letter saying I didnt have a licence- which I phoned up and checked with them and was told I would receive no more letters . Then I got the Official Warning one yesterday......goes to show I dont think they even know who has a licence or not!!
15th Sep 10 04:09

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kat

I too have just received the letter titled 'OFFICIAL WARNING: WE HAVE OPENED AN INVESTIGATION'. it is incredibly threatening especially considering I have already jumped through their hoop and declared I dont have or use a television. I find their enclosure interesting. it reads 'to stop our investigation, you should either buy a licence before we visit, or contact us to let us know that tv is not used at this address'. under which, there are no contact details, but a list to 'choose a payment method that suits you'. seriously, I feel like telling them not to go, but to f*** off. disgruntled radio listener kat
9th Sep 10 01:09

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Sam

They send threatening letters because the revenue intake is greater by sending them than by not sending them. This is the only criterion, and they will not be moved from this position.
They could send non-threatening letters, but the revenue increase would be only marginal.
Replying to any of their communications is the equivalent of opening an e-mail known to contain a virus - it leads to further contamination by correspondence and possible visits. Moreover, it endorses their policy, as it tells them that you have felt sufficiently threatened to be provoked into replying.
27th Aug 10 06:08

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nick

As one without a television, I actually strongly support the principle of a broadcaster freed from the commercial pressures to pander to mass audiences which is the alternative of TV or radio paid for by advertising.

I further support the BBC's right to enforce licencing and impose sanctions where breaches of the licencing laws are found to have been committed. I don't even object to them writing to me to ask if I have a licence, nor to them monitoring me remotely by TV licencing van.

However, the tone of many of their letters is menacing to the say the least. I have recently had one, merely asking me to confirm I don't have a set, which I have done. I had an email reply telling me I would hear by letter in the next 10 working days of the 'next step'. I'm probably due that letter any time now. I'll let you know what it says.
27th Aug 10 10:08

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Paddy

I have a license for home but phone calls to TV Lic who think not are a waste of time so I have just emailed them giving them my post code & surname only, inviting them to call and investigate but I'll know when they are coming and it will take them half a day unless they have their own boat. I am just hoping that as they are happy to waste my time they will now waste plenty of theirs.
I also get letters from them for a cow byre that was last used as a residence over 50 years ago. I now just reply that the Angus family from Aberdeen who reside there don't weatch tv. I would love to see them call and check out the cows!
23rd Aug 10 03:08

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Aleedsfella

Just ignore the letters and do not talk to anyone that visits about it. If you do not reply to letters or interact with their staff, they cannot do a thing! I have not paid for 8 years.
19th Aug 10 12:08

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Morticia the girl.

I have been receiving the threats from the licence morons since early 2004. Because of the implied threats I have refused to give any sort of reply to the creatures,They continue to send them. I am longing to have a visit from them.
18th Aug 10 08:08

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John

I completely agree, I thought in this country that inocent until proven guilty but according to the BRITISH Broadcasting Corporation I have to prove that I am innocent. I've just got another letter in the post today saying that I am now under investigation. In the past 2 years I have saved over 30 letters which is only half of what they have sent me.
28th Jul 10 12:07

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Millie Tant

I could not agree more, I fail to see why I should explain myself as to why I choose not to have a TV.
There is no legal requirement under the current law to anyone to have write to the TV licencensing authorities and confirm they have/have not got a TV.

I say let them waste their money, the staff at the BBC which this money goes to keep in their luxury lifestyle waste enough as it is.
5th May 10 03:05

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the thing

I would love to get rid of my tv channels most of the garbage now seems to be reality tv with so called celebrities doing something or other.but unfortunately I can't see my wife wanting to give it up she loves some of the things on sky(don't get me started on sky tv bunch of money grabbing muppets).
30th Mar 10 05:03

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K

Best bit of advice I can give is that if you can be bothered to write back to them. Send them a letter stating that you are revoking their "implied right of access" and anybody entering your property, which include coming up your drive, is trespassing and you will have them charged. Also that any further letters will be used as evidence of harrasment which is causing you distress and will be seeikng both a conviction and compesnsation.
22nd Feb 10 12:02

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leafy

I say, stick it to the man!

Just ignore the letters, let them spend their resources on fluff.

And just deny them access to your house. Don't let them in!

Stay on your rights. Its your home, and you shouldn't be bullied in it.
13th Feb 10 09:02

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Chris Manders

Hear hear! TV Licensing are scum. I do get a little satisfaction, though, transferring their threatening letters directly from the letterbox to the bin. I don't have a TV - I have something else more valuable - It's called 'a life'.
16th Nov 09 11:11

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Thom

I lived in England for a few years in the mid to late nineties, and TV licensing gave us a hard time because we didn't have a license. However, there was a very valid reason for this: our television was a 525 line NTSC set (the programing standard in North America) and was used only for watching VHS tapes we brought with us and playing video games. The set was technically incapable of receiving 625 line PAL broadcasts and therefore the BBC, so we saw no reason why we should shell out £85 (at the time) a year for a service we couldn't even receive. Eventually TVL gave up and left us alone, but only after several letters such as the one above.
25th Jul 09 07:07

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Tallulah

I used to live in a converted house, that was turned into three flats, the bottom of which was unoccupied. You could tell just by looking through the curtainless window. It was being renovated, it didn;t even have floorboards. We got several angry letters regarding the lack of TV license in this flat, and the non existent flat 4. Eventually some enforcement officers came over, and after eventually believing me that nobody lived in the converted flat, demanded entrance into the building for proof that there was no flat 4.

Idiots.
18th Jun 09 04:06

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Jigga

I also get these letters all the time but I simply chuck them in the bin, I used to be scared about the letters but now I guess am used to seeing them, They appear very threatening in deed but its all just a farce from the BBC, its funny the amount of money they spend on making these junk mails for every household in the country, One can only wonder how much money is actually spent by the BBC on these letters.
25th Apr 09 02:04

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Kryton

I too get these letters. About once every 18mths, though sometimes I get two or more at the same time and dated the same too. Now I have a TV but do not receive a signal. Nor is the area in which I live, even capable of receiving a signal. I've enough trouble getting a half decent radio signal, (only watching TV, if I go to visit someone). Instead I view DVDs. The last time I got one of the letters, was after I'd purchased a DVD player. Note the word 'player' and not recorder. But I get the letter anyway. "We have been informed that you recently purchased a DVD/Video recorder. And since we have no record, etc,etc." I blame the retailer, as much as the the TV Licensing organisation. Evidently they'd informed this illustrious body, that I now had something with which I was capable of receiving a signal. And since with these people, 2+2=5. This being wrong, so must I be. Hardly had I got the thing out of the box and the letter had arrived. "I should get a licence." I should have got a licence before even thinking I had the right to breath air. And if I didn't contact them immediately to pay them £s, then I'd be getting a visit from some of their staff in a few days. I felt like suggesting they come round on Thursday for breakfast and I'd pour them some tea.

I'm still watching DVDs and not receiving a signal. Still not parted with their demand of £s. And since I didn't see a 4x4 or Unimog struggling along the only access track, I'll assume they've not come for breakfast yet. I wish they'd hurry up. There's mold growing in the tea mugs and I'd like to get them washed and put away.
21st Apr 09 02:04

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Tana

You echo my sentiments exactly. I am in the same situation and despite two and a half years of telephoning these idiots to tell them that I do not have a TV on the premises, I receive a letter almost monthly on average. As for 'Nikki hater' below - grow up and get a life!!
7th Apr 09 09:04

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Honest Joe

We have got a tv and also a current tv license, but still we keep getting these threatening letters.Can't wait for a visit from them just to show them our up to date license
30th Jan 09 06:01

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tututu

the state has been spending our money threatening us for ages on the radio in an orwell type manner . im suprised no one has noticed
21st Jan 09 05:01

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Law

When a TV licence is required [See Wikipedia]

According to Act of Parliament, a TV licence must be obtained for any device that is "installed or used"[26] for "receiving a television programme at the same time (or virtually the same time) as it is received by members of the public"[27].

According to TV Licensing, "You need a TV Licence to use any television receiving equipment such as a TV set, digital box, DVD or video recorder, PC, laptop or mobile phone to watch or record television programmes as they're being shown on TV"[28].
Specific exclusions not requiring a TV licence are:
digital box used with a hi-fi system or another device that can only be used to produce sounds[28]
television set installed and used solely for some purpose other than watching or recording television programmes (e.g. closed-circuit TV monitor, DVD or video player or games console)

If you are only watching on-demand services, after programmes have already been broadcast, you will not need a TV licence. (This includes the BBC iPlayer service.)

The BBC have stated that a licence is not needed simply because a television receiver is owned.
14th Jan 09 02:01

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K

Handy (also Nikki Hater), in the wonderfully fluid world of the web... do you think that there's a vague possibility that website owners may decide to shuffle things around a little bit from time to time? Has it ever crossed your mind that things may change? Idiot!
14th Jan 09 09:01

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handy

I'm inclined to draw your attention to the section called "Tips for avoiding TVL/BBC harassment" on the left hand menu at the top of the page.

It's on the RIGHT HAND side stupid
14th Jan 09 08:01

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Nikki Hater

Anyone who says they DON'T have a television are most likely LYING
14th Jan 09 08:01

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Jimmyw

Disgusting. Don't let them bully you, its almost like a legalized mugging, although i'm not sure it IS legal to send people letters like that to an innocent person. I'm seriously considering not paying mine now although I spose I can afford it. I heard noel edmunds did the same thing too because he feels the adverts are too threatening. all the best.
8th Jan 09 07:01

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Andy

Don't inform them then, you're under no legal obligation to.
14th Nov 08 10:11

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Anon

I have not had a television set for 3 years and therefore have had no need for a tv licence. If there is something on tele I want to watch I simple go next door to my mothers house (which is licenced) and watch it there.

I do however like to watch NASA tv on my computer as I have a interest in space exploration and the internet is the only way to view NASA tv in the UK. Last week I had a visit from the tv licence enforcement officers and knowing I had nothing to hide I allowed them into my home. I had NASA tv on at the time and while they were satisfied that I do not have a television, I was astonished to be informed that I still need a licence to view NASA tv and that I should buy one or face a heavy fine. I intend to fight this ruling on the grounds that the bbc tv licence fee does not fund NASA`s space exploration program.
27th Oct 08 01:10

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m_b

They will never get the 'point'... as the 'point' is to continue to harrass and disturb you so that you feel 'unusual', 'different' and 'strange', 'wrong' by not owning or watching TV. The licence really isn't the point... although it does give the illusion that the BBC is somehow separate from the state, which it's not, its just a 'State Broadcaster'.

There will always be some people who don't watch TV, the concern might be if this began to spread more generally around the population, and it began to be seen as 'cool' not to have/watch TV.

Without a TV in each home they would have some difficulty diseminating information and propaganda to the population at large. In the past you would have been fined for not attending church to hear the latest 'state propaganda'... the same goes on today, it's just changed to a 24h pulpit in the corner of the living room.

If money was the only issue, they could just sweep away the licence fee and raise taxes slightly, but I guess there is an school of thought in high places, that keeping the illusion of the separation of the State and the BBC is advantageous (not least for its overseas work), and creating a culture in the UK that 'having' a TV is normal, and 'not having' one is strange/odd is useful.
30th Aug 08 07:08

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Kenny

Okay, about a month ago had another visit from TV licensing person - seemed official, so told him I didn't have TV, even showed him the projector/DVD player. He seemed happy enough and disappeared after writing something up in his car.

Today, guess what? Yup, you've got it - another threatening letter from the TV Licensing people! So I ask when will this ever end? Do they keep threatening and harassing you until you actually buy a TV Licence? Is that the only way to get them of your back - even if you don't have a TV?
29th Aug 08 12:08

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Chris Thurlow

Is anyone interested in stopping the TV License in the UK? It’s a rip off.
How many of us realy want to watch the likes of East Enders, Coronation Street or the constant repeats that the BBC put on to bore us to death and yet insist we pay for it? All they have to do is put adverts on and free us of this hideous mandatory fee. If 60% of the UK stopped paying it the courts would be so inundated either the government would have to step in or BBC would have to consider their options.
I am partially sighted and totally colour blind and they refuse to offer me a discount. I do my best to follow a film by hearing aided with a little sight and what I do have on is normally what my Wife chooses from the free sky channels so we don’t need the BBC or their blasted license.
20th Jul 08 08:07

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winstonsmith 1984

disgusting in a democracy
In the past I had no Tv and oh lord the aggro I got in the end I got aTv licence just to have a quiete life
Stalin would have been proud
3rd Jun 08 12:06

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pooh_bear138

TV Licensing are scum. They are bullies without any legal authority whatsoever. If you want to get rid of them, write to them withdrawing the implied access to your property. They will huff and puff about using other means, but will have no choice but to accede to your wishes. I have moved several times and agree you should not have to prove your innocence in this way but it's worth ending the hassle of the intimidating mail in the end.
3rd May 08 06:05

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Cheesy Townsend

I have always understood that TV Detector vans do not work, and never have worked. They are just for show. That is why they have that science-fiction forest of ironmongery on the roof.

How probable is it that they could distinguish a TV from a computer display, whether CRT or other?

Does anyone know differently?
12th Feb 08 10:02

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daniel

I don't think there is anyway that they can detect whether or not you have a TV and assume that you do. A friend of mine who is a student at University is constantly harassed by these people, even though He doesn't have a TV.

now the reason I say this is that a TV works by receiving signals from a mast, it does not emit any signals of its own, therefore it is entirely passive, and passive devices can not be detected through the radio signals they receive. hence they can't detect if you have a TV or not.

They can know if you have license or not though a database. now if we take all the houses that don't have a license and assume they have a TV. then Visit them and say our van has "detected" their TV and if they have one they should pay for it because they think they have been "detected" the vans are a lie, they can't do anything more than Provide transport.
1st Feb 08 11:02

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Scared

<I seem to suffer from a syndrome of being disturbed by things other people don't find important at all . I've noticed the BBC are advertising that you can catch up onprograms on the internet. I was thinking "why are they putting programs on the internet for free if they aren't going to get any licence fee from it" .Then the horror of it dawned on me . They're going to use it to argue a case for licencing having a computer or laptop if it's connected to the internet.They want to trap us before it's too late and all their revenue gets away. Using the same logic they force people to have licences by having TV's. You may possibly watch the BBC so you must pay,no choice.
It makes me so sick. I already think the TV licence is such a disgrace and such an abuse of Civil liberties I can't understand why millions of people aren't lobbying to abolish it. The harrassment is unbelievable.Probably because the revenue is even more unbelievable. Well all I'm saying is when it happens remember I told you so.Yes it's just mad old me. And don't expect to see my concerns being aired on News 24 unless they've been doctored.>
2nd Jan 08 04:01

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Scared

Do you feel that even daring to think about this is like being watched by BigBrother in 1984. Forget about BigBrother program and 1984 having been and gone.Remember the real horror of that book.Perhaps it should've been called 2008. I've got to the stage almost of thinking resistance is useless. It's like a thought police situation.Isn't there anything we can do about it instead of just discussing it .I want to find a place where millions of people are campaigning to abolish it.
"The BBC is now quietly lobbying for the licence fee to be extended to computers connected to broadband networks."
This confirms my worst fear. Alot of the argument against abolishing TV is the no adverts argument and because it mainly comes from the BBC people seem to be brainwashed into not seeing any other side of the argument like freedom of choice not to be bullied into make alot of people very rich at our expense.
It's a Catch 22 for the people that work there. Would they encourage us to want to abolish the licence even if they thought it was wrong? Would they resign because of their conscience? Who would know if they did? TV is like a monster out of control. Luckily we seem to have the capacity to fight back with our computers for now but we're running out of time.

Here is another message I posted at another website but I'm afraid to add anymore to it because I'm not confident of how relevent it is to that site.
2nd Jan 08 04:01

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overfiftys

You ask "what would an elderly person think if they were to receive a letter like this".....well, my in-laws DID receive one, several years ago. They had no TV, didn't want one and thus had no licence, BUT they were also over 75 years of age so it didn't matter anyway, because you don't then need a licence.
I would just march the letter straight off to a solicitor, despite the cost, just for the satisfaction of screwing the sods into the ground.
25th Dec 07 04:12

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bejjj

when they came round to our house and demanded to know "what do you do without a television?" we showed them a chess board. d**khead didnt have much to say to that.
21st Dec 07 02:12

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ANON for obvious reason

Write to this chap, send a formal letter of complaint about harassment, job done
16th Dec 07 04:12

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Nikki

Although I do own a television now, for many years my first husband and I did not. Although back then the technology was different, we were still bombarded with letters and once had a knock on the door from one of those tv detector vans saying that we were viewing a tv without a licence! We didn't even own a tv, the wretched man would not believe me, so I invited him in to see for himself, whereupon my wonderful dog went for him which was really funny and served him right. He never apologised (the dog didn't bite him, just barked at him), just left in a huff because he had been proved wrong. When I remarried, my second husband also had not had a tv, only buying one when his first wife fell ill and needed some entertainment. For years they too had been harangued by the licensing authority.

What gives these people the right to assume that you own a tv? My parents do not, can't stand the things, but luckily for them are down a long drive and so far have not been bombarded with nasty letters.
14th Dec 07 01:12

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M Denyer

From TV Licensing Authority: "You see everyone owns a television. Those who don't are liars who 'will be caught". Frankly I find that quite offensive, I mean I know not to take the threat letters personally, but their approach is still despicable." . . . "the mechanism which gives them the right to invade peoples' property on a whim seems as immoral as it does insulting.

Not only that but the blind assumption that everyone owns a TV and anyone who says otherwise is a liar is bloody annoying.
14th Dec 07 12:12

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A.D.

It's the letters of course. It's the letters that get you in the end. They combine mind-numbing stupidity with calculated nastiness in equal measure. You know they're computer generated, automated, nothing personal, it's just the system, but my God they're nasty. Nasty, intimidating, bullying, and, well, did I mention they were nasty?"

Every few months, I receive a letter from the TV licensing agency, who do not believe that I do not have a television. Once again I am threatened with a £1000 fine, and also warned that my house will soon be spied upon unless I buy a licence.

Who are these corporate Nazis?
14th Dec 07 12:12

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Martin B

Enforcement officers wanted!

Some additional notes regarding the role

Past experience in intimidation and threatening of the elderly, single mums and students especially is essential.

You’ll be considered a ‘lone-worker’ meaning we will check up on you every hour just to monitor and provide a quick response if there is an accident or in case a dangerous situation arises.

If you like watching football matches please don’t bother applying because we will expect you to make door-to-door visits every time an important match is on.

Remember

- You have no authorization what so ever to enter people’s premises.

- You have no means of proving our ‘customers’ need a TV licence because the technology we use to detect TV’s in use are either non-existence or outdated.

- You will totally depend on your criminal past to force our ‘customers’ into a confession and have them sign our ‘plead-guilty’ forms.

- The more of these signed forms you send in the higher your bonus.

- Don’t ask for search warrants all the time; our client, the BBC, considers this not cost effective. Again, use our proven intimidation tactics to achieve our goals.

Tip - Target only our weaker ‘customers’ such as students, single mums, the elderly, the disabled and people living in deprived areas. We hold lots of statistics; our database will help you targeting these particular areas.

Looking forward reading your CV!
14th Dec 07 12:12

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Troll Slayer

We can reveal that the BBC’s own research shows that far from considering the BBC good value for money, 58 per cent of viewers WOULD PAY NOTHING FOR IT, IF THEY HAD THE CHOICE. Read the BBC’s report here

Under Jowell’s latest hand out to the BBC, viewers of any television station may go to prison if they do not pay the £131.50 tax to the BBC. The BBC board is appointed by the government and its income is controlled by the government, making its claims to independence ridiculous.

The fee, recently reclassified as a tax by the National Statistics Office, is monopolised by the BBC, which uses the proceeds to launch services for which there is no public demand. The BBC unfairly monopolises broadcasting spectrum and unfairly launches products subsidised by the licence fee tax in competition with independent ventures.

Thousands of people are prosecuted every week for not having a licence. Most of them are poor and they are typically female and single mothers. An average fine of £150 is increased for subsequent offences and can escalate to prison sentences (usually of young women) of those who are unable to pay their fines.

The latest above-inflation, 4.2 per cent increase in the licence fee is only the starter. The licence fee will rise to £200 by the end of a new 10-year settlement.
The BBC is now quietly lobbying for the licence fee to be extended to computers connected to broadband networks. Its current spending spree puts it in need of ever more cash. Visitors to Britain marvel that it should be a criminal offence to watch television in Britain without paying tribute to the BBC. Thousands are conscientious objectors, refusing to pay the fee and mastering countermeasures to the BBC’s contracted TV licensing agents, Capita plc. Capita’s agents work on a bonus scheme - the more prosecutions they bring, the more they are paid. The behaviour of these agents is repeatedly questioned yet they are subject to no independent complaints procedure.
6th Dec 07 11:12

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Stop buying Belgian chocolates

We live in the "Quite frankly, I don't give a damn" society.

These TV Licensing officers cannot be bothered nor can their managers to establish the veracity that you simply do not have a TV set or any electronic instrument capable of receiving/capturing a TV broadcast. The presumption is that you are guilty, if you haven't paid.

Margaret Thatcher was responsible for this change in social attitudes. You all now have to fight your own ground for all of your rights. You will be given no help whatsoever to do this.

This is not a polite battle between them and you. This is war.

You will lose. They will draw first blood. Pack your bags and get ready to go to prison.
5th Dec 07 06:12

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Nick

I once received a very similar letter at my new house a couple of years ago. I had only moved in a week before. Apparently the previous tennant (the house was rented) was dodging buying a TV Licence!
5th Dec 07 12:12

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Bar code geek

Your name and address are given in plain text in the 2D bar code at the top of the letter.
5th Dec 07 10:12

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Play charades and sing round t

Purely due to inertia I am keeping mine until the analogue signal goes off, then it's going. I will watch the odd DVD on my PC if I am desperate (which I doubt).

I had an old car boot sale black and white one a couple of years ago just to watch the news now and then. That didn't half wind them up! They spent more in postage sending threatening letters than they would have got from the difference in license. In they end I wrote to them confessing that sometimes I did watch in colour by putting on green spectacles. They left me alone after that.
5th Dec 07 10:12

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Kenny

Pay thru' the nose: Actually I don't have a TV (see my earlier gripe - No television in this house) and believe it or not, it isn't true that EVERYONE has a TV. Also, you don't have to be a religious nut to shun the goggle box. Personally I have a Google box (thought that was witty...) instead. All my entertainment either comes from DVD's or the Internet.. and I don't sit and watch fuzzy short clips on YouTube all night either!

It just really gets no my nerves that I need to deal with these TV Licensing people if I want to avoid these threatning letters.. Grrrrr....
4th Dec 07 07:12

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Pay thru' the nose

Just don't kid me that you don't have a TV set. Everyone has one. Just pay up. The TV Licence should be a compulsory tax on everyone. The BBC is an agent of government. It supports the status quo + the establishment.
4th Dec 07 06:12

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Phil

Not a nice letter, no. 82,076 people caught every year? LOL. Crikey, I hope they don't catch 82,077 people next year.

On the other hand, badge of honour. Congrats. You are a member of that tiny, self-appointed, growing, privileged elite, people free of TV. When I finally dump my TV the only thing I will miss will be BBC Ceefax.
4th Dec 07 04:12

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Mrs. A.

My TV licence expired recently and since I pay it yearly I forgot (an honest mistake!) to renew it. I got a very similar letter reprimanding me. It as only a couple weeks out! I have a TV so I begrudgingly have a licence for it and purchased a new one. You are completely right, though. These letters play on fear of prosecution and make you feel like a criminal. And what do we even get for the fee? Some channels I don't watch anyway without 'commercials' (however, I count adverts for their own shows as commercials because they are promoting something).

I'll bet most of the money the TV licence company collects goes toward posting nasty warnings and buying detector vans anyway.
4th Dec 07 03:12

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