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Can't pay the rent, housing association no help

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I have worked since age 16, paid taxes and National Insurance like everyone else does and worked really hard to support myself and my daughter.  Recently I became ill and have been certified sick from work.  I realised pretty quickly that this was going to be quite long term and that money would be an issue.  I approached my local council and housing association telling them my situation and that I would not be able to afford the rent on my privately rented home.  I asked if I could be considered for a housing association home as the rent would be cheaper and I would be able to manage for the time being on the sick pay I will receive.

The housing association told me that as I was adequately housed I would be on the bottom of the list, and that I should apply for housing benefit, which I was of course refused on the grounds that I had savings.  Well fair enough I suppose.  The problem I have is that I have now used up all my savings and can't afford next months rent.  I went back to the housing association for some help and advice, and was again told to apply for housing benefit.  This I have done, but apparently it will take from 8 to 12 weeks for a decision to be made and even then they will only pay around a third of my rent!

To Let signs -  Paul Mison The housing association has said that I am still at the bottom of the list as I am currently adequately housed, and that to be considered sooner I need to be homeless.  However, if I give my notice to quit to the landlord I will be considered as having made myself homeless, and will not qualify to be on the housing list for a certain period of time.

So the conclusion I have come to is that I have to carry on living where I am and stump up what I can here and there to try and pay the rent until the housing benefits are sorted out.  I'll then continue to pay what I can to top up the housing benefit payment until my landlord evicts me for not paying the full rent, leaving with a debt and no hope of a good reference for the future.

Surely it can't be right to actively encourage people to get into debt, when there are so many people already in debt?  All I need is a little help now to get myself over my illness and back on my feet before I can pay my way again.  When I see some other single parents who have never worked and have council houses all paid for, I can understand why.  I've struggled to stay out of debt and to provide for my little family and now I'm being punished because I've been paying my rent and have tried to do the right thing.  I'm currently looking for a cheaper private rent but now I've spent my savings don't have a bond.

It's just not fair, through no fault of my own I'm going to get evicted, owe money and have a bad credit rating which means I'm going to need far more help in the future when all I need is some help for a few months until I can return to work and support us again.

Incidentally this is the same housing association that refused a friend of mine help when she wanted to move to an area with childcare and better public transport links so that she could return to work after being made redundant.  They told her that wanting to return to work wasn't a good enough reason!  Isn't the system just crazy?


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Bulldog

"But the truth is that benefit claimants are being deliberately set up to fail in order to achieve sanction quotas without regard for natural justice or their welfare. Staff are being asked to behave in a manner that is against the department's values of integrity and honesty."

The complainant also alleged that senior managers electronically altered a claimant's file to make it appear they had been told to attend the job centre the following day when no such notification had been given. Failure to attend a job centre interview is grounds for sanction.

TIME TO GET RID OF THAT PRAT IAN & HIS MATE DAVID !

People with serious health issues are being left broke and lost - we need to get rid of that prat Ian Duncan Smith NOW
23rd May 14 11:05

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Friday Lunchtime

" These payday companies and pawnbrokers must think people are all idiots "

Clearly there are enough people moronic or desperate enough to use these licensed thieves, keeping them in business.
26th Nov 13 12:11

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Nick

All ads in Britain are incredibly patronising and most suitable for someone with an IQ of less than 10 or someone who has failed GCSE. Wonga is just a typical example. These payday companies and pawnbrokers must think people are all idiots. For example in their ads they put five £20 notes and a gold necklace in one picture saying "Get Cash for your Unwanted Jewllery! Yeah! Hurray!" ....as if it were a good deal to sell your necklace for less than a quarter of what it's worth and paying 3,456% APR interest is a good deal. Utter bullsh1t.
25th Nov 13 05:11

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Anon

Comment from a viewer this morning on Sky news concerning Wonga pay day loans.
" Perhaps Wonga, and all the rest should be forced to give all those applying for loans an IQ test first".
I think the comment most probably sent a shock wave around the Wonga and pay day loan organizations. Trying to find anybody with intelligence to loan money to at their interest rates and terms would mean they would soon be out of business.
25th Nov 13 02:11

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boblet

In these days of economic uncertainty, I sometimes opine as to the care-free life of the 'Gentleman of the road. Toting his/her worldly chattels in a b.b.b. He/she tramps the dusty lanes that meander through the beautiful countryside from Europe to Britain mostly enjoying his/her gang of fellow gypsies company and a scruffy little dog. Perhaps whistling to himself as he/she hails the customs authorities or the police with a friendly finger. As the day draws to a close, he/she searches for a suitable shop doorway, squat or mansion. Settled at last, footsore and weary, he/she shoots up and slakes his/her parched throat with a glass of strong cider, Meths, Lambrini or Super strength Tenants. Finally he/she farts then settles down with a burp & a contented sigh to a night of slumber 'neath the twinkling firmament to only be woken up with a colleague pissing on them. It would be wrong to envy this worthless bum, for we know not the misfortunes he/she may have suffered back home & may even now live in a big fancy house, equally though it is undeniable that his sleep will be untroubled by rent or mortgage concerns for we will pay them with our tax's. His/hers is a humble totally selfish existence. Requiring only meths whiskey oh anything for spiritual solace, whilst totally pissed and surrounded by God's or anybody else’s goods or creations.
20th Oct 13 01:10

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jobby

In these days of economic uncertainty, I sometimes opine as to the care-free life of the 'Gentleman of the road'.
Toting His worldly chattels in a gaily coloured linen sack, tied to a stick and slung over his shoulder, he tramps the dusty lanes that meander through the beautiful countryside. Mostly enjoying his own company and perhaps whistling to himself, he hails his fellow sojourners with a cheery wave.
As the day draws to close, he searches in the twilight for a suitable place to make camp. Settled at last, footsore and weary, he kindles a cozy fire and slakes his parched throat with a glass of strong, ice-cold cider. Finally, after a supper of wholesome fare he settles with a contented sigh to a night of slumber 'neath the twinkling firmament.
It would be wrong to envy this character, for we know not the misfortunes he may have suffered - equally though, it is undeniable that his sleep will be untroubled by rent or mortgage concerns, for his is a humble, spiritual existence, at peace with himself and surrounded by God's own creations.
20th Oct 13 07:10

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Rich

There is one solution though -
"Mr Wonga lend me some dough"
"Mr Wonga you are number one!"
14th May 13 01:05

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Fairytisya

I have been renting houses and units for the past tewenty years and have probably had 15 different landlords. Of those landlords I only found two that were unreasonable. They wanted to charge me for general wear and tear on there houses.

The other 13 were very good. Whenever I had problems they all had them fixed within a week.
1st Mar 11 03:03

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coldarc

hi am sorry for my comment I was drunk when I wrote it. I don´t know myself what the hell
the text had to do with my comment. I don´t iven know how I ended up on this page.
for me this is embarrasing. the out of context text I wrote is not a text its a set of taughts and emotions on paper.
26th Sep 10 11:09

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coldarc

I think nobody is unfit to work. the problems is not finding the ansfer from peson experience
but I think that the person with a litle work with the in a perticilar context will obey fine.
the position is a´m afraid condemnation. the very human action of mankind some times sombody will experience. can be good and bad. if you have loyal faith in your teacher leader
you wil help your uneducated frend into a part of your leagacy work your soul human essence
he will be your servant your in disiplines a below worker. things can go bad can go good you are not evil wil not be in futille.
26th Sep 10 01:09

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Kara

I have a question I`d like to raise

You travel the world constantly mr siochain, moving from one place to another all the time.
Tell me, how are you funding this life style?
Do you stay in rental accomodation when you do this? This includes motels, hotels etc
If this is the case then you are relying on the existence of landlords to live your life.
Ever think about that?
30th Aug 10 10:08

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the real athair_siochain,

Kara or is it another" beachsunriver" ID. most people with intelligence understand no one can do anything without a landlord or money lender having a say, even the waste products from humans is used to create money for landlords and moneylenders , most of the infrastructure in the sewage systems rely on loans from moneylenders to keep working, you may say we rely on landlords. I say the greedy landlords rely on their landlord mates butts polishing seats in Parliament , I have friends around the world where I stay only pay expenses. my home is always open-house for my friends to stay, I was in Ireland last weekend involved with music, and meeting with a group who are doing all they can to put down the greedy parasite landlords,
I cant help thinking of landlords because they have total power over humanity, when you buy a loaf of bread, you could be contributing to the wealth of hundreds of landlords and moneylenders, once humanity is educated with a knowledge related to the landlords and moneylenders, we will see them as the greatest threat,
27th Aug 10 09:08

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Kara

I have a question I`d like to raise

You travel the world constantly mr siochain, moving from one place to another all the time.
Tell me, how are you funding this life style?
Do you stay in rental accomodation when you do this? This includes motels, hotels etc
If this is the case then you are relying on the existence of landlords to live your life.
Ever think about that?
23rd Aug 10 11:08

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John

Yes. Goodbye Mr Asshair.
Go on continuing your life with your head up your ass.

You say you hate moneylenders and people that live off others contributions, yet live a life earning money from bank savings and pension paid by tax payers.

So yes, off you go you hypercrit and don`t ever come back again.

Thats an order!
19th Aug 10 11:08

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the real athair_siochain,

You come from Eastern Europe and screw tenants in Sydney, you also work in a factory, and you did visit Marcoola when I was over their on a fact finding mission..... I always tell the truth. when I say "All landlords and Moneylenders are parasites" 80.000 sites alone .. in India sure proves landlords should be made pay for their blind greed, this is my last time exchanging messages with a parasite, you are no different than a bedbug, you can now write to yourself. use the IDs you stole from me,, ATHAIRSIOCHAIN,,,,, SIOCHAINATHAIR, athair_siochain, along with the John and Shirley you use here, bye it was not nice knowing you, you greedy parasite......... and not forgetting " beachbumriver"
14th Aug 10 07:08

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John

It seems like your being banned on numerous sites you visit.

Perhaps your comments are all considered inappropriate.

Maybe you should try sticking to the truth instead of making up lies about people to try and make it all seem so theatrical!

I have summed you up. I caught you out lying and we now watch you try and worm your way out of it. It`s very funny.

So how much profit have you made on your sale of second hand violins?
Are you still telling the kids they are brand new?
Shame on you!

By the way, I`m not in Eastern Europe. I`m in Singapore.
13th Aug 10 07:08

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the real athair_siochain,

just checked out "landlords .com" I have been banned, . as if I care another piece of landlord history. shows the power they have,,,,, I have the info I need, that is all that matters. wont be going back to the sites that . the Sydney parasite landlord crawls on, , the greedy parasite landlord , a cyberturd who charges $350 a week for a cubby house, no wonder this world is on its knees,
13th Aug 10 04:08

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the real athair_siochain,

Shirley-- John or what ever ID beachsunriver is using is still chasing me around. proves he will do what ever to stop my , message, if one joins a landlord site. you have to be a landlord or pretend to be a landlord to see how those landlords blinded by greed behave. it is a eye opener just to read the crap they put in their blog.... I asked a question to see how they would re/act. the question, " should I sell my property because I am being called a parasite.???? "
"most of the information I collect is going into a manuscript" beachsun river has been a great help, so much of what he has said over the years will make good reading. read the copied quote posted by beachsunriver,,,,, Shirl ---- john--- plus IDs galore , you have to pity the poor soul. it must be hard following me around the world,,, as I said before this thread is about greedy parasite landlords and I posted messages against them, beachsunriver is here to try to spoil . maybe he is behind razor wire, dreaming of becoming a landlord, you have to feel sorry for him, he should return to Eastern Europe, and stay there,,,,,,
13th Aug 10 04:08

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Shirley

Intersting on one hand Athiar says he despises landlords, then on another site he says he is a landlord. Either way he is a liar
12th Aug 10 08:08

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Jon

Attention Athair Siochain.
I thought you said you hated landlords. Yet in the "Landlord.com" forums you have actually admitted that you were a landlord?

So are you telling lies here or are you telling lies there?

Either way I think this proves once and for all that you constantly lie.

See below. I have copied for all to see!

athair_siochain

Registered: 03/05/10
Posts: 9

03/25/10 at 06:43 PM
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I have never told a tenant to leave they do have a 12month lease, I make it known to them they can stay till they get something better, one tenant has been in the house -- 11 yrs paid the rent two weeks in advance all that time, and the garden is great. one time he asked me if he could paint the bedrooms, I said yes and gave him the paint, it is more than 3yrs since I had a property vacant.I exchange greetings cards during the year, so we are all happy, so you have to understand how I feel when most of the landlords I know are ratbags, make jokes about the very people who pay to look after the LLs properties, my properties are well looked after, so we are all happy. that is the way it should be,,,,,I have been on many newspaper sites in the US over the years and I find a lot of articles on greedy landlords, so I assumed it was worse there than here in Surfers Paradise in Australia
12th Aug 10 05:08

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anonymous

he real athair_siochain / John or whatever names you are using. Both of you please understand that no one here cares or is interested in your 15 year private fight.
4th Aug 10 05:08

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John

All stories and no facts.

Another typical make believe statement from the man we know as Ass hair.
4th Aug 10 02:08

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MikeP

The record's stuck record's stuck record's stuck record's stuck.

Change the tune buddy!
4th Aug 10 09:08

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the real athair_siochain,

Seeing is believing, any landlord who tells you they are not screwing the tenant is in cloud cuckoo land,, the lowest rent being charged is still a rip off. I hear that in Australia the values on property has gone up 3.1/2% in the last 3months , this will ensure a 10% rise in rents , because rents are based on the money value of the property, not on the comforts and lifestyles of the tenants,, something must be done to rid this world of all the "bedbugs of humanity" they are the greatest bludgers of all time,,,, the greedy landlords took control of government and the legal system to make sure their gravy train is never derailed.
4th Aug 10 08:08

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Hooneedzem

MPs, Councillor's, Housing associations and the Council are all fiddling B******* anyway. Happy to take your votes, your pride and your money off you in the good times but don't want know when you are in trouble. They only help their mates and make sure the line their own pockets along the way.
30th Jul 10 08:07

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John.

Saying that all landlords continue to rape and plunder is a total exaggeration of reality. You do this all the time Asshair.

Not all rents have "rocketed to unreasonable levels" as you say. Not all landlords follow the other and hike up their rents to unreasonable levels.

You don`t know what every landlord charges so once again your statements are too broad. You don`t know the individual circumstances of all landlords so cannot comment on landlords as a whole. To do so would make you a complete fool.

By the way, I have never told you anything about my investment property. You don`t know if it`s a house, a flat, a farm or townhouse. I`ve never told you how much rent I collect for it either, yet you clearly state I rent out a shed for $350 a week.

If you have to make up a story to get support then it really shows that you have lost this debate.

How would you like it if I made up lies about you to get a reaction Asshair?
25th Jul 10 11:07

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the real athair_siochain,

Not being able to pay the rent, that comes about because those who work for a living to support their family find they have to financially support another family . THE LANDLORDS , complaints do not work both ways . because the law is created by landlords for landlords. tenants do not have any say in the amount of rent they should pay,
The greed ,avarice and downright stupidity of landlords absolutely staggers the imagination in the current economic crises, these parasites continue to rape and plunder, rents have rocketed to unreasonable levels despite the current financial turmoil landlords never tighten their belt, unless it is around the neck of a tenant. all landlords are tarred with the same brush. when one greedy parasite puts up the cost of a roof over ones head the other greedy landlords follow suite,,,,,
23rd Jul 10 10:07

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Trent B

I`ve seen sites where renters have complained about unreasonable landlords, but I have also seen sites where landlords have complained about unreasonable tenants. It works both ways.

I too believe that the world will always require rental accomodation because many people prefer to rent over buying something themselves. It all works fine until there becomes a rental shortage and thats when SOME landlords get greedy and play tenants against each other for the highest rent.

This is greed at it`s best, but I don`t believe all landlords should be tarred with the same brush.
23rd Jul 10 07:07

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the real athair_siochain,

TRENT have you checked out the Members of Parliament. I have --. made easy by politicians bragging about the rental property they own, you did not do much searching there are 80.000 sites in India alone
22nd Jul 10 09:07

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Trent B

I have searched these sites you speak of, and I cant see any situation where you have said anything of substance. You give no specifics, and never seem to back any of your statements up with real time statistics.

So really, all your doing is giving your opinion over and over again. There are no facts with any of your statements.

I can see your committed, but everything you say seems so wishy washy.

One would think you`re doing this out of revenge due to a previous bad experience of your own.
22nd Jul 10 01:07

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the real athair_siochain,

I did visit Australia , so I know a lot about the place, Shirl YOU ARE UP EARLY 1.20am or maybe it is pm in OZ as far as links go, ' google' thats what the greedy landlords do,,, type in "greedy landlord parasite" and you will find plenty of info, 100.000 blogs araound the world , on these blogs you will find the victims of the greedy parasites, type in Landlord help line,,,, and you will find hundreds of sites, here you will be well informed on how to screw a tenant,, I know the landlords need to silence me, I milk the landlord blogs for info, under another ID so I am not identified as a spy, this is the only way to get inside their heads.......this is the only site -- the real athair_siochain "posts on. I use my real name when I write to Newspapers about parasites. the feedback has been good, I know landlords will always try to put me down, by name calling.
22nd Jul 10 10:07

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Shirley

the real athair siochain.
I have noticed you giving us all this information, but you never provide links to any of your stories.
It appears that you are making everything up because you never provide any real facts that we can cross reference.

I have never once seen any back up evidence in the form of a link.

I agree. I think your lying.
22nd Jul 10 01:07

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Smithy

the real athair_siochain,

although anyone can of course post here this is primarily a British site and I don't think anyone is interested in the rental costs of a beach hut ( or whatever ) in Australia. You did say a few days ago that you were done on this site - any chance of making good on your promise?

This getting rather tedious and filling up the comments page
21st Jul 10 11:07

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the real athair_siochain,

Landlords are blinded by greed, John who is a greedy landlord who charges $350 a week for a cubby house, he uses a bus to compare the activity of a landlord. lets compare.

When you pay a fare it is not rent,, it is your share of the cost of travelling between A and B,

If I had to pay the full LOAN REPAYMENTS for the bus, pay the full cost for insurance , taxes, insurance ,rates and expences then I would expect the bus to belong to me. the law would say I paid for the bus so it is legally mine,,,,,, now if I pay for a house that legally belongs to a parasite I have no claim of ownership. and that house goes up in value because the blind greed of parasites keep wanting more... I claimed JOHN was beachsunriver from Sydney I was correct. I claimed this parasite stole my ID athair_siochain I was correct, this landlord says I lie,,, he knows the truth is hurting his greedy mates, he is a sore loser. he will never win the argument , I have too much information on greedy landlords. the real world is controlled by greedy landlords and moneylenders thats is why it is at deaths door.,,,,
21st Jul 10 11:07

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John

It`s the same everywhere Athair. The bus owner collects bus fare which ultimately pays off the bus. We pay for the bus fare, and that goes towards the maintenance, the loan repayments, rego, insurance etc. In the end we are only renting the bus, and aren`t resposible for any maintenance.

It`s the same with houses. The tenant pays rent for the time he lives there. They are not responsible for any repairs or maintenance. They can choose to move on when they like without the burden of selling and buying again.

Some people prefer to rent. This is why landlords will always exist.

It`s the way the real world works. You should visit it sometime Athair.

For the record, I don`t charge $350 a week for my investment house. I`ve never told you how much I pay, so to see you here telling lies about my rent amount shows me how desperate you are. It now makes me question all of your stories.

I think they`re all made up lies too.

Probably why you never supply any links to prove your stories are actually real!
21st Jul 10 01:07

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the real athair_siochain,

John BELOW the greedy parasite still will not explain why the tenant has to pay the financial responsibilities of the landlord (mortgage payment. shame on you BEASHSUNRIVER, $350 a week for a cubby house shame on you --- beachsunriver

Three years ago I met a person who was renting, the landlord lived 6000klm away, the tenant showed me his payin book, a deposit book for the landlords house loan, so the tenant was paying the mortgage.,

some people rely on accommodation, so why do we have to allow parasites control that accommodation. landlords are the bedbugs of humanity,
21st Jul 10 08:07

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John

You still haven`t answered the question. You always avoid it.

What alternatives have you come up with for the people who rely on the existence of rental properties?

You have been asked this question many times, but you always avoid answering it because I think you know deep down that the world relies on the existence of rental properties and therefor relies on the existence of landlords.

So once again we see you run away from this question like the gutless wonder you are.

No landlords mean no rental accommodation. The world needs rental accommodation.
End of story!
20th Jul 10 07:07

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the real athair_siochain,

I do not want to kill, people , I want the parasites of this world controlled, intstead of the greedy landlords and money lenders controlling all the money on this planet. I will leave this site now , my time must not be wasted,,, a landlord called beachsunriver ,,, akka John the man with dozens of IDs is here, -------follows me all around the world . calling me names, he has never put up a good argument to explain the parasitical activities of greedy landlords . add to that the fact that I have not been banned from Yahoo message boards, yet every word I write is said to be a swear word, I sent a message on a thread. I copied the Lords Prayer tried to post--- a yahoo window popped up saying everyword was a swear word,, so now I cant complain about landlords or even copy this message,on yahoo, who cares, but I did care about people using my ID , this only makes me want to do more. I have five web sites that offers support to victims of greedy parasites. and athair_siochain is not used as a ID-- the landlords are not happy, and shows how much power they have over yahoo,,, why not just ban me, all this crap boosts the charge in my batteries,
19th Jul 10 10:07

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John.

Rental accomodation would vanish if there were no landlords. Even a ten year old could tell you that idiot. I have an investment property and I charge less than $350 a week and it`s definitely not a cubby house. This just proves to everyone how much Athair Siochain exaggerates and lies to get his wow factor. He cannot get it without lies and exaggerations. But we all know that!

So you want to kill people by hanging them because they have an investment property?

You sound like insanely sick patient athair!
19th Jul 10 12:07

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the real athair_siochain,

John is Beachsunriver from Sydney. he seems to forget people blinded by greed are unable to see anything other than money, accomodation would not vanish if we had no landlords or money lenders,, this thread is being hyjacked by this greedy landlord who thinks he is making fun of me. on Yahoo message boards he had to create a ID Athair Siochain so he could pretend I was still active, he can create ten or more on this site, because you dont have to sign in so he can write to himself ( with another ID ) he googled my ID follows me everywhere , he gets his fun doing this, he is a cybert-u-r-d $350 a week rent for a cubby house, we do need to bring back hanging,
19th Jul 10 10:07

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John

You still haven`t answered the question. You always avoid it.

What alternatives have you come up with for the people who rely on the existence of rental properties?

You have been asked this question many times, but you always avoid answering it because I think you know deep down that the world relies on the existence of rental properties and therefor relies on the existence of landlords.
19th Jul 10 02:07

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the real athair_siochain,

JOHN is Beachsunriver / Beach / Athair Siochain / siochainathair because no two people could write the same post like he does word for word,,, this man charges $350 a week for a cubby house in Sydney, and his post has been coming up for over two years. he should try something new,, its getting boring, at least he should tell us why a cubby house that cost around $600 to buy ., is worth $350 a week rent, shame on you beachsunriver, and you wonder why I have taken on the landlords,
19th Jul 10 01:07

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the real athair_siochain,

We dont need parasite landlords , the accommodation will still be there. I am not winging, there are are 80.000.blogs on the net, condemning landlords, and when you go on a landlord /real estate blog you can see why, I have been collecting information on these greedy parasites for more than a decade, no one knows more about them than I do, I write to papers all around the world . and I read the feed back. landlords can never say enough words to justify their parasitical activities,,,, they just attack the person because they themselves know the tenant is financing their pleasurable lifestyle...

tenants are not allowed to sublet. if they were- there would be less people looking for accommodation-- this would bring the high rents down hence a law to protect the greedy,"No Subletting landlords..
19th Jul 10 01:07

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John.

We need landlords because we need rental accomodation. There`s no changing that no matter how long you winge and wine athair siochain.
18th Jul 10 10:07

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John

the real Athair Siochain.

Landlords are not only wanted but also needed.
Here are just a few examples below.
1. Uni students studying away from home need temperary accomodation.
2. Travelling work conditions. We rent
3. While building a home. We rent
4. While trying a sea or tree change. We rent
5. After selling our homes and looking for others. We rent
6. Extended holidays. We rent

I have asked you to tell us all what alternatives you have for these situations. Again, you couldn`t answer and chose to avoid this question.

Your opinions simply aren`t practical.
18th Jul 10 10:07

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the real athair_siochain,

A tenant is a victim of society. if you become a victim of a greedy landlords lie, and you end up in Court. more than likly the Judge will be a landlord , and I have never met a Lawyer who is not a landlord, and the way the laws have been developed to favour the greedy landlord . you have bucklies chance of winning against a landlord, remember he has your hard earned money to pay his legal 'GET THE GUILTY OFF REP"
17th Jul 10 11:07

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the real athair_siochain,

How many landlords do you pay rent to, would you believe hundreds of greedy landlords have their hand in your pocket. do a test for one week, every item has a mark up on the real cost because a greedy landlord has to be paid, My local resturant has sixty tables -- forty of those tables belong to the landlord indirectly, the profits made from them go into the pocket of the landlord, the rent on the property is measured by the hard work of the owner, not on the size or cost of building. so why does the business owner have to pay $5000 a week rent. he has to use this building because the laws on selling cooked foods are put in place by greedy landlords who polish the seats in Parliament,with their fat backsides, on this thread the useles parasites can only attack the person, they cant put a argument forward that makes their parasitical activity look good,,, we dont need landlords or moneylenders,,,
17th Jul 10 11:07

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the real athair_siochain,

Landlords always attack the person Mike P use your old ID . I have met so many victims of landlords, there was a time when I believed they were not all tarred with the same brush, now I realise some smile and be nice to tenants, but in their heart of hearts they only love the colour of the tenants money, they are parasites because of their parasitical activities.no different than bedbugs, the tenant pays for the financial responsibility's of the landlord. tenants pay the money that pays the mortgage on the property. if you pay for something then it should belong to you,,,, this is the greatest scam created ever, tens of trillions of Dollars are printed/invented every decade, its called property equity, and this equity is used to force rents up , because the property value is used as a measurement to justify the greedy landlords grab for more money. the lifestyle and comforts of the tenant remain the same, so if we were to end the role of the greedy parasites, this world would be a better place, imagine if society had a none greedy way to create tens of trillions of dollars that could be used to bring planet earth back from deaths door.
17th Jul 10 10:07

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aaa

You will not get help and things will only get worse the population of this country thanks mainly to immigration has now gone and getting much higher, houses food gas electric fuel and as we are seeing now water are in high demand and thanks to high birth rates of certain etnic groups its going to get a hell of a lot worse as we strugle to meet demand.
17th Jul 10 05:07

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Dave T

Well then the real athair, if not many landlords have done better than you, and you get to play with some of the best musicians in the world then I think that you have lived a pleasureable lifestyle by using other humans to finance it.

Get off your high horse you hypercrit.
16th Jul 10 11:07

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MikeP

the real athair_siochain

Change the record you numbskull. Try and come up with something original.
16th Jul 10 11:07

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the real athair_siochain,

Same kind of reply from a greedy landlord , their only input is to abuse me, they have no evidence to prove me wrong, they call me a communist, they say I am jealous , who would envy a parasite, a parasite who uses other humans to finance their pleasurable lifestyle, they are the bedbugs of humanity, those IDs belong to one person, who spends all his time on yahoo, not many landlords have done better than me , I play with some of the best musicians in the world for fun
16th Jul 10 11:07

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Jessie

The real Athair

Have you ever considered that all these id`s belong to different people and they all think your a fool. That`s another factor you should consider because I think that`s a very strong possibility too.
16th Jul 10 01:07

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MikeP

" .... writing under my ID trying to make me look like a fool..."

No, you've done an excellent of that quite unassisted.

If you believe that communism, which is what you are advocating, is so wonderful, why not go and live in Cuba or North Korea, or rather, the Peoples' Democratic Republic of Korea? I'll even get you an introduction to Comrade Kim Jong Il or whatever the despotic tyrant who runs it is called.

You might also try to find a cure for your obvious paranoia and your obsessive jealousy of those who have done better than you.
15th Jul 10 10:07

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the real athair_siochain,

The nature of any greedy landlord or moneylender is ' THE BETTER DEAL YOU GIVE THE TENANT/BORROWER the worst deal for you,,,
A landlord money lender would sell you a rope to hang him with if there was lots of money to be made,
My major problem with the World is a problem of scarcity in the midst of plenty----of people starving while there are unused resources--- people having skills that which are not being used. this is a major scam created by the landlord/moneylender power brokers in Parliament they ensure that unemployment ( surplus workers ) hangs around 8% this ensures wages are controlled, and the rich get richer,

When a landlord puts the rent up he does this because the value of the property has gone up because of greed, the comforts and lifestyle of the tenant remain the same.

Property values world wide over the last ten years has risen by tens of trillions of dollars, think about that, this invented MONEY???? was printed on the richmans printing machine,. who pays for all this , the people who actually do the real work, the people who collect the crumbs from the rich mans table, the tenants , the borrowers of money, the people with the millstone of debt around their necks, and the surplus workforce, I could write a thousand pages about greedy parasite landlords,
15th Jul 10 10:07

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the real athair_siochain,

A greedy landlord who goes with the flow and charges $250 a week for a garden shed $350 a week for a cubby house is said to be is said to be generous not greedy by "Steve" that in itself shows he is blinded by greed
Earlier I wrote about beachsunriver and all his IDs ( beach--Athair Siochain--siochainathair--Nicola-- Grant --etc-etc) this cybert-u-r-d follows me all around the world because he knows I am a danger to the future of greedy parasites, after visiting this site I went to the Yahoo message boards to start a thread to discuss multiple IDs--- within seconds ' Beach' the landlord who is now on this thread. answered, after that I tried to post a message ,with about 40lines of text... if you put a swear word in-it is stopped, I put no swear words in the message yet every word in the message was blocked said to be swear words, beach is a yahoo stooge, all this shows the extremes the landlords and money lenders will go to.--- first they take-my ID so they can pretend to be me, writing under my ID trying to make me look like a fool all they are doing is giving me more evidence against them,,,, why do all politicians have to be landlords or moneylenders
15th Jul 10 09:07

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Steve

Firstly, if this man is a greedy landlord, he would be charging more than $250 a week rent. $250 a week is very cheap for Sydney rent. How can a landlord be greedy when they charge so much less than market rent? You`ve proved yourself wrong by your own statement the real athair?

Secondly, you say that all those people are one because they are make you look like a fool. Have you ever thought that it is possible that it is actually more than one person who finds you a fool. Afterall, you`ve just admitted that you want to kill people by hanging them purely for having investment properties. I think most people would agree that is very extreme way of thinking.
15th Jul 10 12:07

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the real athair_siochain,

The following IDs Beachsunriver, Beach, Nicola , Grant, Athair Siochain etc etc are all one and the same a greedy parasite landlord from Sydney who uses lots of IDs to hound me all around the net, go back to my first message on this thread to see who the real athair_siochain is,
Landlords are the bedbugs of humanity they use others to pay off their investment properties. bring back hanging
14th Jul 10 08:07

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the real athair_siochain

For more than a decade I have been helping those who are screwed by landlords and moneylenders., using the nickname"athair_siochain", I put messages on hundreds of blogs all over the world , So what happened ??? a piece of #### a landlord from Sydney who goes under the name of "Beachsunriver" has hounded me , he is now on this thread using several IDs.--- beach-- Athair Siochain -- has even managed to hack into my yahoo account to steal my name. "athair_siochain" he now writes under those IDs trying to make me look like a fool. a greedy landlord pretending to be me, trying to make me look like a fool , I am clearing all my internet records under athair_siochain, I wrote to yahoo, got no reply, I would be a target because landlords do not want me helping their victims , Beach is now making a fool of all on this thread. on yahoo he managed to have all my messages deleted so I found I was wasting my time writing , so now he is here, again to make a fool of me, and those who are reading his messages, Beach--AthairSiochain is a greedy Sydney landlord who charges $250 a week rent for a backyard garage, we need to bring back hanging
14th Jul 10 08:07

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caz

I have read your letter and totally agree, its a joke! I too am in the same situation, been to housing trust cant getting any help, privately rent, its too expensive, need to get out, using my savings to top up rent, I hate it, when its all gone what then! their should be enough housing stock for people like us who have worked most of our lives, paid taxes etc, im sick of this country wish I could move out, I do wish you luck in the future
1st Jul 10 12:07

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Athair Siochain

I have built several houses and was surprised just how much profit I made on each. The prices that houses have increased have made me a very rich man. I never have to be a landlord. I have made more money in building I can retire now. I would never rent properties out because I think its bad.
15th Jun 10 02:06

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paul

I feel your pain, not the same story but similar, I was blessed with a bad life, I just have to keep my chin up and go with the flow, now my doles been stopped I need food, I havnt even thought about bills, I would love a job but I cant seem to get one, what can you do???? besides google answers and see your not the only one
5th May 10 02:05

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stacey the fed up mum of two

I am currently in private rented accomadation, with two children and my partner. when we were both working everything was fine. I came out of work because I had my baby number two and then my bf lost his job 3weeks before our baby was born. now we are claiming jsa having too live on bare minimum. yes we get beninfits(this is not through choice) but it not enough to live on and then to top it off we have to pay £80 a month out of this towards rent. which we clearly don't have. my last baby is now a yr old and we still have not been able to get a job. the council can not help us as where we are from the have no council houses and I now have no savings left. so just remeber when you see a mum on benefit or a father in the dole line that not every one of them are there through choice and that some are geinuinly looking for work and are trying to help themselves. living on benefits is no life for kids. so far my bf has sent off over 400 c.vs to be knocked back with sorry were not what your looking for or your unsutible for the job, many not even that. I have been to the jobcentre off my own back and have asked for help back into work because at first they classed me as unfit to work as I am a mother of young children. if I have to put my children into nursery for a few hours a day so I can put food on the table and keep a roof over our heads I will. I am sick to death of people labeling parents on the dole with the same stick. yes some parents have children and will happily stay on the dole for yrs but just remember there are some out there that are not and will try to do anything to give there children the best possible start in life and I am curtainly one of them.
6th Mar 10 12:03

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Athair Siochain.

You do realise that if you rid the world of landlords, you will also be ridding the world of rental accomodation. There are hundreds of thousands of people who require rental accomodation, especially those who work over seas and inter state. Myelf included.

If the world were to lose landlords, it would also lose rental accomodation. This is why it will never happen. People don`t remove things they require to live.

Have you not ever rented a holiday unit, apartment or hotel?

Think about it!
1st Mar 10 07:03

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nicola

I think athair_siochain is talking a load of bull's dollop because if he has worked all over the world and been involved in many building contracts and could have been a landlord as he claimed then he would know that housing association's charge rent for
1) low cost housing for people that cant afford to buy ( as a housing association tenant you do have the right to buy your house, and this is a hell of a lot cheaper than on the market!)
2) repairs that need doing to house eg burst pipe, new door ect
3) improvement to the local area eg new double glazing, new central heating ect
there are more but I cant be bothered to list them so I think some one is jealous because they don't have the intelligence to become a landlord either that or he has taken one to many 'happy pills'
28th Feb 10 09:02

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Beach

It`s strange!
Athair Siochain always seems to dissappear when ever I ask him these qustions?????

It seems he has no answer!!!!!
28th Feb 10 06:02

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Beach

Athair Siochain.
You say landlords are evil because they take money from others and live from these funds.
You say money lenders are also evil because they use others money to creat wealth.

I therefore, must ask you what you intend to live off when you reach retirement age?

Will you live from a lump sum that has been invested for you by money lenders?
Will you live from the stock market and have shares invested?
Will you recieve the old age pension that is paid from tax payers wages?
Will you seek unemployment benefits also from tax payers contributions?
Have you ever saved money in a bank account?


If the answer is yes to any of these questions then it clearly shows that you have double standards and live off others efforts the same way landlords & money lenders do.

Either way, your no different to those you say are evil!

So will you hate yourself in retirement too?
25th Feb 10 10:02

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nicola

Athair Siochain I think you'll find the parasites are immigrants that drain the welfare system. And if you want things in life you have to pay for them, products cost money inflation pushes prices up and like you said a part of the cost of a pair of shoes would go to the rent of the shop as well as the wages for the staff or how do you expect the business to run, on fresh air? get real or we would all be living in slums and the place would look like a third world shanty town. rules, regulation, human rights and living standards that civilised communities are used to all cost money. no money = sub standard living conditions
25th Feb 10 11:02

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MikeP

If you look at some of Athair Siochain's comments on another thread, you will see that he is simply trotting out tired old communist dogma without adding any of his own original thought.

He is unable to answer most of the questions that I and others have raised.
25th Feb 10 10:02

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Beach

Athair Siochain.
Landlords are not only wanted but also needed.
Here are just a few examples below.
1. Uni students studying away from home need temperary accomodation.
2. Travelling work conditions. We rent
3. While building a home. We rent
4. While trying a sea or tree change. We rent
5. After selling our homes and looking for others. We rent
6. Extended holidays. We rent

I have asked asshair to tell us all what alternatives he has for these situations. Again, he couldn`t answer and chose to avoid this question too.

I think he finally realised that we have beaten him and spat him out. Good bye Asshair.
Don`t come back. You`ve failed miserably!
25th Feb 10 09:02

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Beach

Landlords are not only wanted but also needed.
Here are just a few examples below.
1. Uni students studying away from home need temperary accomodation.
2. Travelling work conditions. We rent
3. While building a home. We rent
4. While trying a sea or tree change. We rent
5. After selling our homes and looking for others. We rent
6. Extended holidays. We rent

I have asked asshair to tell us all what alternatives he has for these situations. Again, he couldn`t answer and chose to avoid this question too.

I think he finally realised that we have beaten him and spat him out. Good bye Asshair.
Don`t come back. You`ve failed miserably!
25th Feb 10 09:02

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athair_siochain

How many members of the Housing Association own investment properties.. how many collect rent or interest., the system is not crazy, it is well organised by the landlords and moneylenders,, try to find a politician or lawyer who does not collect rent or interest., I tried could not find one, stopped after I checked out fifty of each, the working poor will continue to pay for the pleasurable lifestyles of the landlord, and moneylenders, imagine a world without these parasites.
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Tax the outsiders

Foreigners should not be allowed to buy houses or land in Britain, unless they can prove they paid income tax in the EU on the earnings for the total money accumulated .Otherwise they must pay 50 percent duty on the property.
28th Dec 09 11:12

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Stop paying your rent

The whole nation should go on a rent strike for six months. The courts could not cope with the situation. The country could not throw half of its peoples out onto the street.

Strike for your rights.
28th Dec 09 08:12

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Gainsborough lad.

Athair, your post reminds me of another comment, "In this world there are workers and shirkers"

I know which one of those I am.
27th Dec 09 10:12

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Athair Siochain

The system we live in is controlled by landlords and moneylenders,, if you go to court you will find the judge is a landlord and moneylender and all the lawyers will be collecting rent or interest. go to your local MP for help, oops they too are landlords and moneylenders... go to the shop to buy a pair of shoes, you could pay 50% of the cost of the shoes to support the rental cost of the shop, why do we have to have these parasites,, we are unable to do anything as they make the laws that we are forced to keep, we have to rid this world of parasites, starting with landlords and moneylenders,,,,,
27th Dec 09 09:12

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caroline,

Shelter offers advice on all aspects of housing. They have a free- phone number.

http://england.shelter.org.uk/
3rd Nov 09 08:11

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caroline

I am in rent arrears of £2422.79 and have a notifcation of court hearing date on the 22nd dec and couicl tax to if this does not get paid then we will be kick out on the 22nd dec
3rd Nov 09 10:11

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pumpkin

can I get help to pay bond as we are having to move we are on jobseekers and have applied for housing benefit
23rd Oct 09 03:10

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michelle

HI I fed up keep reporting my neughbours they live under me and I live on top of them , they have wood flooring all through there flat I can hear every thing from talking ,shouting,screaming ,banging kitchen cupbroad ,doors constanly, keeping me awake on the weekend with all there freinds there until 4.30 in the morning , my houseing told me to move out and get a private place ,i live in my flat 15 years never be report ,they live in there flat 9 months , I still reporting them to houseing now for about year now
what esle can I do???
29th Sep 09 08:09

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Dis. Satisfied

The system is crazy. I am due to be evicted because I had to pay council tax as court ordered and so could not afford the rent. I work but there is no system to help me so what is the point?
11th Sep 09 06:09

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Stop Paying Rent To Crooks

The state must stop paying private landlords rent. Large numbers of private landlords must collectively go bust. Rents will fall drastically. House prices will fall yet again. Then you might be able to afford to live somewhere.

It is not the cost of the building you live in which is exepensive, but the artificially high land price on which it is built which is what you are paying for.

Your landlords are grossly overcharging.

Statutory rentals should be re-introduced. Huge quantities of public housing must be built.

Why is nothing being built during this recession?

We do not have a proper socialist government in Britain.
11th Sep 09 06:09

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Mandy

I am in private rented accomodation All my wages go on my rent and council tax.I have no money for food and bills, so am clocking up debts. I was in receipt of housing benefit but this has been suspended , as my 20 yr old still lives at home, but as she is trying to set up her own buisness, not entitled to job seekers.My 17 yr old did not get into college, and has yet to find a job.
This whole system is totally unjust, as they keep saying you are better off working, when actually it is not the case.It is impossible to get anywhere cheaper, (and every form you fill in wants evidence of everything.....bills, receipts etc, which you don't have if you can't pay them or buy food!
11th Sep 09 03:09

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unknown

I too am in a similar situation. Last year myself and my husband started facing severe financial difficulties so we decided to sell our house and rent privately and try and resolve our situation.

Our debts were far worse than we realised but when we tried to sort it out via an IVA one of our creditors will just not accept it. This has left us with no other choice but to go bankrupt.

As we will be bankrupt our landlord will evict us so we will be homeless but our local council said that they cannot find us somewhere until this happens and then we will be forsec to live in a homeless shelter. With 2 children, one on the way and a dog this is not the situation I want to be in!

I have worked all my life and so has my husband. I work virtually full time hours and my husband works 60+ hours a week so we both pay into a system which is failing us miserably.

And before people say well its our fault for being in debt, the debt isnt big, its just the charges that were added that have made it worse! I own an M reg mondeo which has seen better days and my husband has a d reg volvo which a friend gave us (he hardly ever uses it, only when he is working very late). We dont own flash tv's, wear designer clothes or go out. We don't have fancy holidays abroad (a week in a caravan in wales this year) and we do not spil our children with expensive toys and games.

We have tried everything possible but feel like we are hitting our heads on brick walls. It makes me sick that people who have never worked a day in their lives get everything they need for sitting on their behinds and the state lets this happen!!

I am on the verge of a breakdown and feel like life is not worth living anymore.
16th Aug 09 03:08

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Disgusted with Labour

Today (12th June) it was announced that the government plans to end child poverty. This is nothing more than pouring money at those who cannot be bothered and shout claiming to be in poverty but living comfortably. It is nothing more than making life a luxury for these.
There are many who put the effort in like this lady has that end up worse off than those who get everything off the state.
Tax credits for families earning twice the national average and nothing for singles that are earning way below the national average trying to make ends meet and have to pay everything out of one salary.
Also what about more support for single mums who try to make ends meet and provide for their children by working and don't have children for the sake of having a career living on benefits?
Let us see those who cannot be bothered to do any work because they get everything be forced to put in at least 18 hours a week sweeping streets, dealing with refuse, etc. if they arent carers. This will make them want to try more.
Labour has proved itself as the party for rewarding failure and inefficiency and treating criminals with sympathy where the thick, incompetent and greedy get preference over those who try and victims are victimised even more.
How evil can you get?
12th Jun 09 08:06

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The Samaritan

This unfortunate mother had savings which were the result of not spending earlier on, so it only reflects spending later on when she needed to in order to get through the hard times.


She spent no more than if she had spent it earlier (other than possible interest gained) but saved the state plenty.


Now she gets punished for trying.


Many spongers don't save or contribute towards a pension and get more than those who have contributed, so why should she be penalised for spending her savings when she needed to, not as she earned it?


I have sympathy for her as she has been pushed to the back of the queue by housing associations when on the verge of being made homeless just because she wasn't homeless at the time, whereas the spongers who never try get preferential treatment. How biased is that?


Social Services, Social Security & JobcentrePlus (the DWP), councils, government and housing associations are making Britain into a spongers and beggars paradise and mental torture for those who try to make ends meet who havent got everything handed to them on a plate.
12th Jun 09 07:06

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sick of assumptions

Thank you to the helpful comments, I have tried the suggestions. The whole point of this was to point out that I have done the right thing, yet am sidelined for that. I Have worked, paid my way and saved, when things were tough, I've used the savings, that's what they are for and now they're gone. The point is that I have been told to get myself into debt and into trouble by just not paying my rent, and them I'll get help. That's what astounds me, that I was actively encouraged to run up debts and not pay my rent (not that I could anyway) and go through the indignity and stress of becoming 'homeless' and in debt, when a few quid for a few weeks would stop all that.
4th May 09 08:05

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sick of assumptions

Why am I to be labelled a liar and a cheat? I have saved and used that money to pay the rent whilst unable to earn, how does that make me a cheat? I've been up front and honest, that's not cheating! And downsize, what to - a shed maybe? I have a two bedroomed home, and there are two people who live here! John, if you read the gripe properly I say that I spent my savings on paying the rent, because I am unable to earn at the moment, or perhaps the pot on my leg is false and I haven't really broken my leg, i'm just faking? I had considerably less than £6000 in savings, and was honest and gave details of my savings account when asked, was told to use the savings, which I have done, to pay the rent, which as I said is fair enough. I CANNOT earn the money to pay my rent and have used the savings I had to pay that rent. I am now entitled and had to wait to for the claim to be cleared. It's people like you that make it difficult for genuine claimants, by assuming that everyone hides and cheats, I have done neither, yet still you accuse me.
4th May 09 08:05

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sasha

you could try approaching you landlord explain the situation to him and see if he will reduce the rent for the time being, or give you a notice to quit so you can take it to the council, that way your not making yourself intentially homeless and its freeing his house up for him to let again, explain your financial difficulty and see if he will wait till housing benefit come through,
13th Apr 09 02:04

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m

Have you tried claiming income support? Its true what you say about getting help with your rent the 6-12 week delay will be back dated to the date you signed on the form.

You could ask dwp for a crises loan in the mean time and it’s better that your local council pay your housing benefit direct to your landlord.

DWP may do a home visit very early in the morning and check your bathroom and bedroom to make sure you are living alone, Housing benefit may want to check you are being charged a fair rent so again they may visit you.

If you do live alone and have your own water meter ask the water company to go on a solo tariff and you won’t have to pay a standing charges which will save you some money anybody who live in a house flat etc that doesn’t use a lot of water can go on this type of account, but they don’t advertise it

Don’t forget to claim for council tax too

Good luck
11th Apr 09 07:04

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david hambly

Sadly you are finding out that you have no right to expect housing in your own country. To give people houses and decent jobs would make them citizens not slaves. The Government wants you to have no bill of rights and at present they can do with you as they please. It has always amazed me that people don't take direct action over issues such as housing. The rent incresases imposed by London Strategic Housing on me this year are a disgrace 6% I have advised my fellow non citizens not to pay this extortionate increase, rebellion is in the air. The Government are next to useless regarding social housing 5 million on the waiting lists and growing bigger every year. We do though have to face facts the country is technically bankrupt and doesn't have any real money to build houses. The wealth of the nation has been looted by bankers and the poor will pay the price for this. A decent society would provide decent houses for its people, soon the Government will fall and the stink of Margaret Becket and Caroline Flint will be gone. Out of the ashes of the ruins we will build a society were housing is a human right.
13th Mar 09 11:03

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KT

I'm sorry I re read that obviously you say you are 18, sorry sbout that.
16th Feb 09 07:02

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KT

Anonymous 16-Feb-2009 16:34, you could try your local citizens advice they are good with things like this, and also does your college/university offer a student support service? They may be able to help you too. Ask your local council if they have a homeless team they might be able to help too. I'm really sad to hear of your problems, depending on where you live is there a drop in clinic near you that offers support to families affected by alcohol and drug dependants? they will have experience of dealing with situations like this. You don't say how old you are but you might also like to try social services if it is appropriate. I hope this helps and that things get back on track for you, you are trying very hard to continue your education and make your life a good one. Please don't give up.
16th Feb 09 07:02

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Anonymous

I am eighteen years old and have recently being kicked out from my house. My mother is an alcoholic and it has gotten to the point where I cant live with the upheaval of her mood swings and drinking. I am a full time student and I'm unable to get a job with the credit crunch.

I am currently living with a family member and will be unable to live there for much longer. My friends are all in accommodation and either cant or wont move out (no chance of a house share). So what I did was go to the council offices to ask for help. I had heard that you can get up to seventy five per cent of your rent paid when in full time education without a job. They told me that I could have fifty pounds a week.

Fifty pound to pay for food, bills and rent. I have no way of being able to pay rent and seeing as rent normally costs around £400 a month I am totally screwed. The only way they said they could help me was if I had a child. I think it is good that they offer support to single mothers but what about the rest of us?? Sorry that I want a good job and havent made the mistake of becoming pregnant!

I can get help if I am a part time student but not full time, how the hell does that work? At least on part time you can get a job when you arent studying!

Any advice about what I could look into will be gratefully appreciated as I am totally sick now
16th Feb 09 04:02

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Anon

The truth is that there are 3 types of people, the ones who work and get s*d all, usually in the hardest jobs (carers, nurses, emergency services etc) the ones who work and get something in return (bankers, mp's etc) and the one's who never lift a finger and get it all (benefit cheats etc) and unfortunately if you are in the first catagory, although you keep the country going by providing essential services to the public, you get very little in return. The second two seem to elicit the attention of the media and 'do gooders' because they stand up and shout their cause and make a fuss, while those in the first catagory are too knackered to make a fuss from working so damned hard to make ends meet, to utter any complaint!
13th Feb 09 11:02

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the truth man

my friend, I totaly understand your fears and thoughts, but I have a soulution for you, take out loads of credit cards in the name of gordon brown PM, use the money to open a hostel, sign in under your real name, then scream squatters rights, will take years to evict you. if it does fail, you get to go to a lovely prison, where you will be fed 3 fantastic meals a day, free gym, health and dental, your own tv and playstation, and they also organise daytrips or partys,
your a winner. and when you get realesed, you are now a ex con, so move straight to the front of the queue for housing, dont worry about a criminal record, the country is run by thiefs, and the banks are run by men with no banking qualifications, life will be a breeze, apply for every benifit possible, as you have paid in all your life, unlike that beardsly bird up north who took home over £30k a year for doing sod all, and having never once paid into the system.
12th Feb 09 11:02

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Mark Taylor

This is a really sad story, and those figures that Tong G has shared are quite a revelation, actually it's quite disgusting. To help someone in these situations, we're not talking hundreds of thousands of pounds and if the money went on temporary accommodation and the likes instead of the big white horses and the likes I've heard about, then society would be much better off I think. Basically, it's an ill divided world, but there again we know there are people in other countries in even more dire circumstances.
11th Feb 09 12:02

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Nick

I agree with Englishman.. After 7 years away from this country, I return to find an alien world. What happened? Why is the goverment so afraid of helping people who need it?
11th Feb 09 11:02

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Cal Du-Monde

The problem is there is no help.

My brother in law was made redundant several years ago and when he asked for help was told to sell his house, use his savings despite 20 years Tax and National Insurance ( this needs to be renamed, its a disgrace). He has left the country and will never return - he was asked however if he was addicted to any drugs as there was help available to addicts!
I was in this situation No Job, No help but luckily found some work.(the 6 months of being treated like a criminal by the benefits agency for £60 a week shocking) Sad to say, if you become homeless they have to help you and your children at massive cost to the Taxpayer but it looks like thats your option - unhappiness all round.
This country is heading for the dustbin. There must be another way. Government lookout- we are not happy.( all current parties)
The inside corruption, Mps expenses, Bankers, Bank charges, bonuses etc etc Institutional tax avoidance etc etc..... This will lead soon to unrest of a nasty nature. Then the corrupt leaders and the real money grabbing benefits cheats can be rounded up and sunk off shore.

While the gripe on: 'bankers say their sorry' - Oh well thats ok then. thousands on the dole, thousands being repossessed.....
10th Feb 09 01:02

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Tony G

There's no wonder people 'lose it' and go over the edge. People in desparate situations and then you have, according to the courts, Wayne Rooney earns:

£90,000 a week from Manchester United
£760,000 every six months for image rights
£1m a year from Nike
£118,689 twice a year from EA Games
£3.55m for a five-book publishing deal (which allows Roo to join that illustrious band of footballers to have written more books than they have read.)

Colleen Rooney earns:

£41,667 a month for a column in OK! magazine
£5,000 a month for her column in Closer magazine
£13,000 per episode for Coleen’s Real Women
£283,334 for an eight-book deal
10th Feb 09 11:02

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taximezzo

I get really sick of the housing situation in this country. Somehow, housing is seen less like a basic human need and more like a get rich quick scheme. The sad fact is, we don't have enough housing. Successive governments have not built enough housing for the last 30 years and this has led to the problems that we now face. The benefits system is a joke at best and a trap at worst which doesn't really help anyone in the long term, chronically underfunded, yet they bail out rich bankers with taxpayers money (who, incidentally, do all they can to avoid paying tax themselves) I think that anyone who wants to work in politics should have to spend a month applying for and living on benefits so they can see the havoc it wreaks upon people's lives
10th Feb 09 11:02

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Rafiq

Yep, the only way to get help is to get knocked up as a teenager, never work and you're set up for life. What kind of society are we living in these days?
10th Feb 09 09:02

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rob

we have been in the same situation, I was on the sick for six months with my partner and her daughter, they said because my income dropped from 200 to 75.40 I coulld still afford to pay 1/2 rent ad the housing benefit would cover the rest,. so in september we started paying the £40 a week and have done so till I went back to work in january. I told them I have gone back on less hours and gave them the wage sliips and the decision came through we should be paying nothing. since then I have appealled and awaiting the decision on it to claim back all the rent paid @40 per week which totals £680. and they are still messing arround my rent now. councils are useless to people who are open and honest to them
10th Feb 09 09:02

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Seeds of Injustice

Welcome to the bottom of the cess-pit that Britain really is. It stinks to high-heaven down here. What with all the juicy bankers floating to the top of the tank on the back of your savings, there's no room left down here for anyone anymore. Out you go onto the street, and become a baglady. You will die young. You will have to sell your sprog to someone who can take them in. Perhaps you should have thought of becoming a surrogate mother in the first place.

And what's more you are probaly too ill to revolt
10th Feb 09 06:02

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