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How do you deal with a difficult stepdaughter?

How do you cope with living in a household with a 16 year-old stepdaughter (well, not technically, her father and I aren't married) who disrespects you,will not take any direction from you without an attitude, undermines your authority, and constantly degrades and disrespects her father in your presence?

This behaviour happens daily and causes an enormous amount of stress in the household as well as on my relationship with her father.  We sued for custody last November, on my suggestion because of her constant fighting with her mom.  She also manipulated us into thinking that her mother wasn't providing well enough for her and was moving her around from place to place.  Our full intention was to give her love, structure, a less stressful environment, and help her make it through life.  Now she is fighting with us over the same things that she fought over with her mother.  I have come to the conclusion that she has a problem with authority PERIOD.

This girl came from a very unstructured household.  There was little or no parental supervision, mother was more interested in her boyfriends than her kids, mother was in debt up to her neck because of carelessness, etc.  She (the girl) has always been very manipulative, selfish, self-centred, and inconsiderate.  Her mother gave her no consequences for having 100 "tardies" in her first hour of class because she would not get up and be ready to go to school.  Her teacher flunked her for her lack of responsibility and the rest of her grades were D's and E's but she always had an excuse.  Her father could do nothing about this because the child did not live here at the time.

A sulking teenager She would call us at least once a week and cry and complain about her mom not buying her, or some other drama and she'd complain about their fights.  After we learned that the mother and her two daughters were being evicted from their home, we sued for custody of the younger one.  The older daughter was 18 and chose to stay with her mother (because she didn't like to follow any of Dad's rules).  The first couple of months were pretty good, but after we stopped buying all the things we thought she needed and the household rules were put into place, it all changed.  Her father is a very responsible and good father and has standards and rules but nothing that any other ordinary parent wouldn't have.

She stays up in her room most of the time...

She stays up in her room most of the time and only comes down to eat, ask her Dad for something, or ask if she can go somewhere.  She talks crap about her father to everyone and is constantly degrading him to others.  Most of her friends won't even come to our house because of how she runs her mouth off about him.  Since she has been here, her attendance is pretty good and her grades have improved.  She is given £80.00 a month to buy her personal needs (hair supplies,deodorant,etc.) and does NO chores around here other than a few dishes every other night.  She has a beautiful bedroom and bathroom of her own and all the comforts that go along with it, she has very little respect for these things either.  She frequently lies about various things and I think that she is having a problem adjusting to structure, rules and authority.  Here, there are two sets of eyes on her, and most of the time it's me that is here with her.  Her father works full time and I am a full time college student.  She gets away with nothing from me, I don't tolerate any of her shenanigans.

How can we let her know that we are NOT here to make her life miserable, but at the same time her attitude and disrespect will no longer be tolerated.  We both want the best for her life but she is making ours so much more stressful than it has to be.  Does anyone have any helpful, constructive suggestions as to how to deal with her?

By: Hopeless?

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I'm not expert on this but these tips might be useful for parents/step mom's who want to inspire a better change in their disrespectful teenagers: http://www.mytroubledteen.com/articles/defiant-behavior/how-to-handle-a-teen-who-is-disrespectful-to-others.html

Teaching teens to be respectful is very important. It makes getting along with others a lot easier, and their relationships will be much more stronger and deeper.

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Debymoore - 24-Apr-12 14:50 

No wonder you don't get on with your step daughter - if you feel the need to argue with some anonymous person on the internet then you really must be insecure!
P.S. I'm not going to get in an online argument with you.

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Some Bloke - 31-Mar-12 13:12 

No problemo mate. Yep a present one lol, chilled for most of the time but she has her moments. The more u read the gripe the more it does not sound right, like shes got some real chip on her shoulder. Cya mate.

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pjincs - 1-Feb-11 23:30 

Lol, thanks pj. Sounds like you did well to get rid of the girlfriend - hope the next (present?) one is a bit more chilled. Best of luck to you.

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miserablemoaninggit - 16-Jan-11 17:06 

miserable it sounds like you've stirred up a female hornets nest with this one LOL. Give it up mate, she sounds like my ex girlfriend who would go off on one for any reason she was that tight. U cant win with some women, good luck

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pjincs - 16-Jan-11 15:43 

Sheesh, MMG, You started the "personal attack". Now that it is finished as far as I'm concerned, take your miserable whining elsewhere and go pick on someone else. I've considered your advice, now be on with yourself. Your implications of my stupidity and immaturity are quite frankly boring. I've seen other threads of yours on the Weekly Gripe that are similar,the strong points you are trying to make are merely attacks on others. Good luck on your fishing trip, though I doubt you'll catch anything because your bait is rotten.

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Hopeless? - 16-Jan-11 15:11 

Typical isn't it, you post something that is disliked, and immediately the attacks become 'personal'. My contribution to this particular thread reflects the way I have interpreted the particular 'gripe'. I don't think it has to be permitted by the 'Grumpy thought police' in the first place - coming from a standing position of not daring to cause any offense and so we all must essentially agree. Your rather simplistic division of the articles on this site as you have given still does not then preclude responses that are in disagreement and/or speculative. None of my contributions on this thread have been anything but mildly provocative in the sense that I wish to make a strong point. I think it's called 'adult conversation'. Always agreeing, Grumpy, certainly is not always equated to a 'support response'. Shame on you!

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miserablemoaninggit - 16-Jan-11 13:31 

MMG, I think someone needs to write a gripe article about you and your uncharitable and churlish contributions to this thread. The gripe articles on this site are and have been for some time pretty much divided into two categories:

(1) the Agony Aunt variety (of which this is one, requiring help and support responses) and
(2) the 'observational/personal experience' variety, which attract general commentary and tales of similar experiences.

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Grumpy xx - 16-Jan-11 12:19 

Hopeless? Now that I've stopped laughing, although I did retain my socks, for the final time I ask that you do try and realise that there are different perspectives on this matter. It is inappropriate for you to use The Weekly Gripe as some sort of 'suppport network'. That is not its purpose. You really cannot expect us to all 'cozy up' like poor old Grumpy, and agree with everything you say. I, and others, have every right to query your original gripe, to speculate and to suggest that there might be another perspective. You should at least accept that your stepdaughter will see the situation differently, and perhaps a first step in trying to resolve the matter is to try and 'empathise' a little with her, rather than coming from the position that you have done absolutely nothing wrong and that the blame lies entirely with her. It is unlikely to be the case. So, reflect and empathise as much as you can. Anyway, I'm off fishing now . . . .

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miserablemoaninggit - 16-Jan-11 11:40 

Thanks GrumpyXX, MMg can laugh all he wants. No one is upset here, just looking at how ridiculous that person is. Thank you for your support. There is alot to juggle and it is difficult some of the time to concentrate on my studies with some of the stress in the household. All in all, I do pretty well. I have received some great input for the majority of the posts here and plan to try different strategies with her to help our situation. All is well, best wishes to you Grumpy XX.

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Hopeless? - 16-Jan-11 01:58 

Don't take any notice of MMG, Hopeless?. He sounds like he's on a 'fishing trip' to wind you up and you're just chomping on the bait. I expect he's laughing his socks off and how upset you're getting. So just ignore him.

Good luck in your studies, by the way. I did my degree as a mature student too and I know how hard it can be to juggle various priorities and having a difficult stepdaughter can't be helping one little bit. Luckily, for me, I didn't have that problem.

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Grumpy xx - 15-Jan-11 22:20 

O Dear, Dear me miserable, need I remind you that this post was not about me and what you THINK(O excuse me, there's some more capitals for ya!) that I may be doing with my day or my life for that matter. This post was about how to deal with disrespect. I am not the evil stepmother that you perceive me to be. I want the very best for this child, as does her father. We are merely trying to get tips on how to get through this rough period. And as for my academic achievements, I am very satisfied with the goals that I have reached as well as my personality. I am a very loving, giving person who deserves to be respected whether it be by you or a 16 year old girl. If you find my posting tiresome or irksome, I suggest to go elsewhere and whine. Your opinion of me is your opinion, but I might add that I have never been described as the way you describe me. And if you think that this lashing out is immature, so be it. I am not here to argue with someone about who they think I am. I am here to learn coping skills and to deal with a teenager. You are the one who has taken this totally off track. So good luck with your storybook readings and your high level of education. I am glad there is one person who feels sorry for my stepdaughter, maybe she could come and live with you!

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Hopeless? - 15-Jan-11 19:00 

Dear, dear me, Hopeless? Your posting is so defensive, as well as quite tiresome and irksome. Using capital letters as you do smacks of immaturity and suggests that I have actually hit a raw nerve with my previous posting. If you author a gripe on The Weekly Gripe, you cannot really expect everyone to simply agree with your point of view, and not to speculate that there may be something 'behind the lines', so to speak. To be quite frank, your response to my previous post has largely confirmed my speculation about you - a dictatorial, 'my view is the only view', evil stepmother type of person. I feel very sorry for your stepdaughter as she clearly has a great deal to put up with. My advice to you is to read Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs; the evil stepmother came to a sorry end, and you need to change your ways to avoid this. As for college, I suggest that my educational achievements are far in advance of yours, although that's not to say that I don't wish you luck. When you complete your degree, hopefully you may have realised that a good academic perspective is the result of a consideration of many pieces of evidence and/or arguments, as appropriate. It should enable you to be somewhat more 'reflective' and a little less 'defensive'. Good luck with that!

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miserablemoaninggit - 15-Jan-11 18:14 

@misersablemoaninggit, you have NO right to put label on me! I am a 50 year old woman, trying to earn a bacholer's degree to obtain a better job. Up until last year, I worked full time as well as took care of the household. What do you do? Are you some sort of expert on raising a stepchild? There is no military camp here, just a normal family like any other. We do not put her on a pedastal and I do not set the rules here, HER FATHER DOES. I do not disipline her, HER FATHER DOES! Have you ever gone to college? Obviously you haven't, because if you had, you'd realize that there is NO TIME TO SIT ONE YOUR BACKSIDE when you have class, homework, laundry, housework, cooking and various other duties to perform. We do not ask much of her and we both treat her respectfully as a HUMAN BEING. I looks to me like you haven't taken much of a realistic look at what might me going on here or you just don't know what the heck you're taking about.

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Hopeless? - 15-Jan-11 17:27 

I think the problem lies more with the author of this gripe, rather than the stepdaughter. The posts has some contradictions I think, including the fact that the stepdaughter stays up in her room most of the time which means, I assume, that she is not causing trouble downstairs. How old is the author of the gripe? She is a full-time college student? Is she of a similar age to the stepdaughter? The stepdaughter is going through that selfish, self-centred period that most teenagers go through. I think the author of this gripe needs to realise that she is dealing with a human being living in a home, not a soldier in a military camp! Furthermore, if the author of the gripe does not work herself, then the 2 of them are bound to get on each other's nerves. When the author stops playing being a college student, and gets off her backside and starts working for a living, she might then realise that there is a big difference between a teenager going through all that angst, and a working adult who should know better. Any sensible, reasonably intelligent adult dealing with a teenager should realise that priding themselves on the fact that quote 'She gets away with nothing from me, I don't tolerate any of her shenanigans' is almost certainly a recipe for disaster. It seems to me that the author of the gripe has set the bar so high - as stepparents usually do! - that the stepdaughter is bound to fail, and fail, and fail over again. The stepdaughter needs to be regarded as a fallible human being, as a teenager who is naturally pushing the boundaries, not as some sort of robot following some strictly prescribed set of rules.

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miserablemoaninggit - 15-Jan-11 16:35 

You have two problems, so it seems to me: her unstable and unstructured background and her age. Many 16 year old teenage girls and boys rebel and can cause mayhem for their parents or guardians, no matter what the circumstances, even in the most structured, stable and loving homes, particularly if they are bright or creative. She's naturally at an age where she is testing parental authority. Nevertheless, she also has a rather unstable background as you describe. If your own attempts to resolve these issues above aren't working, and causing you immense stress, it might be a good idea to seek family counselling to see if this will uncover any deep seated needs she may have that she hasn't yet articulated to you and to resolve some of the practical issues of how you can live together in harmony to come to some sort of arrangement with her that involves setting clear boundaries for her to keep within the context of a loving a more stable environment. Clearly, she has had very little of that in the past and now she is overly selfish and demanding because of that, and now you are reaping the consequences.

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Grumpy xx - 13-Jan-11 23:08 

Do you and her father stick together when it comes to discipline; meaning if she gets a 'no' off you, does he say 'yes'? Consistency is important, so the two of you have to back each other up and not undermine each other. And I agree with JJ - why are you just giving her money? Forcing her to get a job or otherwise earn her allowance by doing chores might actually instil a sense of responsibility and maturity in her, making life easier all round.

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AngryMom - 13-Jan-11 17:46 

This kid has a lot going on and probably doesn’t know what the hell’s going on in her own brain. Her parents split up, she lived with a crappy Mum whom she then walked away from to come and live with you – at your suggestion.

I don’t know the story between how the two of you met but perhaps there’s some underlying resentment towards you with this girl. Maybe she feels as though you’re somehow responsible for things going completely balls up, especially so if it were your suggestion to sue for custody and you’re now the one doing all the disciplining around the house.

Go easy on her and try remembering what she’s had / still has to contend with but on the other hand, you can’t let that be an excuse for her completely taking the Mick and walking all over you.

Lay off the shouting, ordering and generally blagging as much as poss. Sit down with her and explain that you’re trying your best to do what’s right for her but that she isn’t making it easy on anyone – including herself. Ask what she wants. Does she want to stay with her Dad or go back to Mum?

If she wants to stay put, tell her you’ll both need to make that bit more effort to get along and she’ll have to bear in mind that you’re not asking the world in expecting her to at least be a bit more respectful.

Take things easy and don't expect the situation to change overnight.

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Parly - 13-Jan-11 08:40 

You could try applying to Jo Frost's programme. She is good at what she does and it may appeal to the girl's vanity to be on the programme without her realising that she will probably change because of it! Might be worth a try.

Other than that, just be consistent; ignore the bad behaviour but reward the good. Best you can do.

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good luck - 12-Jan-11 23:54 

Sound to me like you are doing exactly the right things, carry on as you are ! It'll take a long time to get over the bad parenting she's had before, so be patient - but at the same time don't take any crap. I'm not sure about the £80, but don't starve her of money completely (like some here are saying) or you'll get even more attitude.

Oh, and be sure you talk to her like an adult and not a child. She's going to be one soon enough, so you (and she) may as well get used to the idea.

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Biffo1963 - 12-Jan-11 23:32 

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