Screaming brats during the school holidays
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The school holidays are upon us and once again we have to suffer the screaming brats Henceforth to be called the SB. For screaming brat read 'spoiled brat' as most of the time the screaming brat is screaming its head off not because it is any distress, but exhibiting that modern malaise 'I want, I want a sweet, I want an ice cream, I want to run around, I want to sit, I want to stand,whatever. |
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When the SBs demands are not met it will start to scream its head off and have a tantrum. It seems that every bus, train, plane, shop, and library has a resident screaming, spoiled brat! I have just returned from my local library and lo and behold there were not one but two resident SBs going at full throttle. The librarian did nothing and the mothers of the two children merely went 'shush shush'. In that situation if I had been one of the mothers I would have removed myself and my brat from the library until it had calmed down. But no, the mothers continued to walk around the library inflicting their noisy kids on everyone in the vicinity! |
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Been to some parts of Africa lately? You will not find the SBs there, merely a gentle wail, moan or sob as they scrape around for some food to eat! If I had my way all parents and their screaming brats would spend some time away from this ' want, gimee, gimee' culture, which it seems is so much worse during the school holidays. It all comes down to parenting skills, which are pretty much absent in a large number of these modern mothers. It seems that any dissent from the SB is met not by application of discipline, but a reward such as a sweet etc. The child then learns that to get a 'reward' it only has to start screaming its head off. You can see how we've ended up where we are now. Instead of a reward may I suggest a gag, or better still remove the screaming brat from my vicinity and inflict it on someone else please! Even better don't have kids in the first place and save the planet. By: Filly Stine |
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Not long before the next round of school holidays, time to stop using public transport in fact time to stay indoors, unless your neighbours have the brats visiting, then turn the telly on full blast, or pop into next-door and tell them Santas dead, goes down a treat with the adults, saves them loads of money
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I absolutely agree with you, granted not all of the little tikes act this way, some of them are generally well behaved, especially in public, however, the SB's as you call them DO.MY.NUT.IN! It is painful to hear a child screaming for no reason, and not because you feel bad for them, no, because it is actually painful to your ears! And you are right, I have seen so many mothers just ignore their child when they scream like little brats and go about their business as if nothing is going on. THANK GOD, somebody else agrees with me on this.
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Christy; The Annoyed Teenager - 17-Oct-11 12:28
just walk up to the little beggars and throw them out of the window
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Well said Filly, I feel exactly the same! Most parents don't give a damn if their kids are running around the place screaming and yelling, getting under peoples' feet etc, it's like coz they're just little kids we should all just put up with it, or even think it's sweet!? Erm, it's NOT! I hate that in the library now, the one place you should expect peace, there are these little horrors being allowed to make all the noise they want. The staff probably don't dare say anything in case they get sued (you can't say anything about a kid these days without a parent flying into a rage and taking it further), and the parent just doesn't care! I do feel bad when I see a screaming kid and the parent is obviously trying to do everything they can to quieten it down - you can tell a good parent a mile off - but unfortunately that is rare. Please keep the SBs out of my way too, I'm dreading the coming half term next week, then the dismal six weeks of summer holidays! :(
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I do have sympathy for those who enjoy sitting outside (in their own gardens or not) wanting to relax with peace and quiet outside, but really the truth is we live in society surrounded by people - plain and simple. Families should absolutely without a doubt have the right to be able to play. Play often does involve a level of noise. It's just a fact. I wish I could suggest that those who can't stand to be around children move to the countryside or a retirement village but I know it's not that simple and that it sounds VERY insulting, and no-one likes feeling they are forced to move (even if they can move) because of what their neighbours like to do, but it would be awful to keep children couped up indoors simply because a minority can't stand the sounds of children playing.
I do have sympathy for those who enjoy sitting outside (in their own gardens or not) wanting to relax with peace and quiet outside, but really the truth is we live in society surrounded by people - plain and simple. Families should absolutely without a doubt have the right to be able to play. Play often does involve a level of noise. It's just a fact. I wish I could suggest that those who can't stand to be around children move to the countryside or a retirement village but I know it's not that simple and that it sounds VERY insulting, and no-one likes feeling they are forced to move (even if they can move) because of what their neighbours like to do, but it would be awful to keep children couped up indoors simply because a minority can't stand the sounds of children playing.
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Kids should refrain from playing with balls near property, should be brought up to respect their neighbours and be brought up with boundaries but please don't label every tantrum of a young child as being a spoiled brat - the best of parents produce little-ones that tantrum. Yes I feel that way about Africa when my kids bemoan having to eat what's on their plates, or when they don't feel like doing a chore. I have found myself saying "do you realise how lucky you are - there are children who can't even get safe water to drink, who have to work hard every day etc .... but really don't whinge on about kids who don't think this or that is fair. Considering how lucky one already is often does not occur to children until they are older. It's all apart of growing up. When you are little and your ice-cream falls on the floor you don't think about anything but the ice cream. You can't expect ANY small child to suddenly feel thankful for the fact that they don't live in the third-world when they drop their ice-cream. Ice-cream on floor = upset. Simple. Simple thoughts and simple reasoning skills at that age - whether they have good parents or not.
My other point is - do you realise how lucky YOU are? If you want to use the African analogy, you live in luxury even though your peace is broken at times by tantrums and noisy playing. Be thankful that the kids around you are able to play.
I do agree that parents and children should show respect. I can't abide it when children are being anti-social and their parents just stick up for them with the likes of "my so-and-so can do what s/he likes - it's a free country so get off my doorstep".
I agree that there are parents who really don't care what their kids do, and some parents are worse than their kids. This does appear to be on the increase too so I have every sympathy for those who live near uncaring loud-mouthed families.
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Kids should refrain from playing with balls near property, should be brought up to respect their neighbours and be brought up with boundaries but please don't label every tantrum of a young child as being a spoiled brat - the best of parents produce little-ones that tantrum. Yes I feel that way about Africa when my kids bemoan having to eat what's on their plates, or when they don't feel like doing a chore. I have found myself saying "do you realise how lucky you are - there are children who can't even get safe water to drink, who have to work hard every day etc .... but really don't whinge on about kids who don't think this or that is fair. Considering how lucky one already is often does not occur to children until they are older. It's all apart of growing up. When you are little and your ice-cream falls on the floor you don't think about anything but the ice cream. You can't expect ANY small child to suddenly feel thankful for the fact that they don't live in the third-world when they drop their ice-cream. Ice-cream on floor = upset. Simple. Simple thoughts and simple reasoning skills at that age - whether they have good parents or not.
My other point is - do you realise how lucky YOU are? If you want to use the African analogy, you live in luxury even though your peace is broken at times by tantrums and noisy playing. Be thankful that the kids around you are able to play.
I do agree that parents and children should show respect. I can't abide it when children are being anti-social and their parents just stick up for them with the likes of "my so-and-so can do what s/he likes - it's a free country so get off my doorstep".
I agree that there are parents who really don't care what their kids do, and some parents are worse than their kids. This does appear to be on the increase too so I have every sympathy for those who live near uncaring loud-mouthed families.
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Wow! There seems to be several issues here in these posts so my post refers to some of them, not just the original 'gripe'
Well I agree that there are spoiled children, but there are many MANY families who are not like that at all. In fact from my experience most families do not spoil their kids. It's just that you notice the spoiled wailing ones more than the others. BUT small kids will throw tantrums, spoiled or not, even those who grow up with clear boundaries.
I love to hear children playing. I like to hear Daddies playing football etc with them.
I do think there should be a respectful balance - perhaps Daddy should consider taking Junior to the park at least some of the time.
We live in society and we should accept that children are going to play noisily outside and good parents join in and encourage playing. This is a healthy and normal part of growing up. However we should encourage our children not to yell, or we should take them to the local park (if it's safe) for them to let off steam. My own kids and their friends play outside. I tell them they don't need to yell when they play. This is usually enough to keep the noise down.
My husband works nights alot of the time. I cringe when kids are outside playing loudly (or anyone else for that matter. The blooming scrap-metal merchants are worse), but kids playing is normal and it would be a sad sad thing to squash that.
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Well I agree that there are spoiled children, but there are many MANY families who are not like that at all. In fact from my experience most families do not spoil their kids. It's just that you notice the spoiled wailing ones more than the others. BUT small kids will throw tantrums, spoiled or not, even those who grow up with clear boundaries.
I love to hear children playing. I like to hear Daddies playing football etc with them.
I do think there should be a respectful balance - perhaps Daddy should consider taking Junior to the park at least some of the time.
We live in society and we should accept that children are going to play noisily outside and good parents join in and encourage playing. This is a healthy and normal part of growing up. However we should encourage our children not to yell, or we should take them to the local park (if it's safe) for them to let off steam. My own kids and their friends play outside. I tell them they don't need to yell when they play. This is usually enough to keep the noise down.
My husband works nights alot of the time. I cringe when kids are outside playing loudly (or anyone else for that matter. The blooming scrap-metal merchants are worse), but kids playing is normal and it would be a sad sad thing to squash that.
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two foot ball mad families in adjoining gardens to mine make my life a misery.It is impossible to sit in ones garden after 3.30pm, as one or both their kids kick a ball ,later to be joined by their fathers,they do this with hardly a break untill sundown,school holidays are even worse,xmas morning one of the children was kicking a ball at 7.45am and one dark night in the snow before xmas so you can imagine what it's like when the nights get lighter and they bring othe kids around,constant thudding,numerous balls have come into my garden which I do not now give back,the father of one family came to ask for the balls back and I said that I would if he stopped his kids kicking their ball into my garden,he said he was not going to stop his kids playing football and that he could not guarantee balls would not come into my garden,so in that case I told him he could not have them back.In 2010 I have 3 bin liners full of their balls which I said that I was keeping for evidence should I resort to legal action. I think both fathers are teachers as they arrive home soon after the children.In summer of course it's even worse when the babeque season starts as one of the families uses the garden as a dining room most of the time,with so many garden toys trampoline childrens playhouse it's like a kindergarten,they have now just aquired a puppy which by summer will cause even more noise. I don't know of any legal way to stop this.If you think that I sound like Victor Meldrew,I am not ,we have lived in our house 41 years,have 4 grandchildren and a great grandchild on the way and I can assure you that if ever there was a complaint about them I addressed it immediatly.
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grand-dad-in- pain - 26-Dec-10 18:19
the problem is that many parents today are very child centred and just let their kids say and do whatever. children should grow up knowing about boundaries and how to behave in polite company.
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mardi gras the candyman can - 6-Nov-10 18:50
There has always been a class of people whose social integration has been questionable. The trouble is it's a bigger group now and the behaviour is getting worse, in a society that generally is maturing and evolving over time as good progressive societies do. This is why it stands out. Parents don't care because they know no better.
However, these issues are being discussed openly more than ever before and I sense the tide is turning. Not a marked improvement, but a definite sharpening of the attitudes of those who are tiring of this. In the fight for a more civilised society in which more people lead their daily lives without constantly annoying others, this is a positive thing. As is anything which gets the message rammed home.
However, these issues are being discussed openly more than ever before and I sense the tide is turning. Not a marked improvement, but a definite sharpening of the attitudes of those who are tiring of this. In the fight for a more civilised society in which more people lead their daily lives without constantly annoying others, this is a positive thing. As is anything which gets the message rammed home.
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Harsh But Fair - 13-Oct-10 16:59
How can something so small (a child) make such a loud noise? Beyond me. When I was little I never mithered for things or screamed Tesco down, I didn't dare. I wonder what has changed? I'm only 24 so it wasnt that long ago I was little.
Why do parents not care when a three year old takes up seats on a bus and doesn't make him move when someone needs a seat? And he's climbing all over it with grubby trainers on and getting chocolate all over the seat. And all mum can do is smile and say "Morgan stop it and sit down!"
Why do parents not bat an eyelid when a football slams into your garage door causing a dent? Why do the parents of these little brats come to me and start telling me off for telling their son to move away from the front of my house with his ball? I just dont want any damage thats all....oh its too late my garage door is dented now thanks to these parents who dont give their children guidlines.
Why do parents not care when a three year old takes up seats on a bus and doesn't make him move when someone needs a seat? And he's climbing all over it with grubby trainers on and getting chocolate all over the seat. And all mum can do is smile and say "Morgan stop it and sit down!"
Why do parents not bat an eyelid when a football slams into your garage door causing a dent? Why do the parents of these little brats come to me and start telling me off for telling their son to move away from the front of my house with his ball? I just dont want any damage thats all....oh its too late my garage door is dented now thanks to these parents who dont give their children guidlines.
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I have often wondered, if these old gals don't care enough to teach their children anything or make them behave, why have them at all? I have come to believe that they are just too slovenly and prideless to much be bothered to plan a sensible life or take precautions and just figure they'll get the government to take care of (and clean up) whatever manages to fall out of their treasure troves.
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Yes nic nac but there is a difference between kids making a noise playing and a spoiled brat trailing round shops behind its mother screaming as loud as it can I WANT IT NOOOOOWWW!
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Are we living in a 'victorian' state?
Children should be seen and not heard?
For goodness sake, when children get together, they will naturally make a noise! How weird it would be to see silent children. Children playing without making much noise? Bizaar!
Yes, we are becoming a 'nanny' state!
Children should be seen and not heard?
For goodness sake, when children get together, they will naturally make a noise! How weird it would be to see silent children. Children playing without making much noise? Bizaar!
Yes, we are becoming a 'nanny' state!
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Parents of noisy and unruly brats need educating, for the benefit of their offspring and the rest of humanity, if not for themselves. There's more chance of finding oil in the Pennines than an education scheme ever seeing the light of day. It would be deemed intrusive, discriminatory and not politically correct. So in the meantime, we'll just continue to put up with a large number of tomorrow's adults running riot while their classless and clueless parents ignore it.
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Harsh But Fair - 18-Sep-10 12:19
" and yet, those same parents are claiming all the money from the tax payer that they are able to claim for. Stop the child benefits and make parents take full responsibility. If the parents are unable to do that - take the children from them, and put them into a home where they can be adopted by people who want to take responsibility and pride in social development of children.
The reason we need tax credits and child benefit is because employers in the UK generally pay such bad wages. The government are basically subsidising businesses so that they can continue to get away with not paying their staff a decent living wage. You could raise the minimum wage, but many comapnies would then just go abroad and exploit other people. Also, we are in a recession, have you seen the state of the job market? I know lots of people who have been made redundant over the last two years. Maybe if a man could still earn a decent living wage to support his family then people could spend more time parenting. Unfortunately this seems to be a thing of the past!
The reason we need tax credits and child benefit is because employers in the UK generally pay such bad wages. The government are basically subsidising businesses so that they can continue to get away with not paying their staff a decent living wage. You could raise the minimum wage, but many comapnies would then just go abroad and exploit other people. Also, we are in a recession, have you seen the state of the job market? I know lots of people who have been made redundant over the last two years. Maybe if a man could still earn a decent living wage to support his family then people could spend more time parenting. Unfortunately this seems to be a thing of the past!
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Clearly the parents have lost control over the children. They abdicate so much responsibility for them, allow them to have few manners, encourage them to have no respect for anyone, become selfish, and yet, those same parents are claiming all the money from the tax payer that they are able to claim for. Stop the child benefits and make parents take full responsibility. If the parents are unable to do that - take the children from them, and put them into a home where they can be adopted by people who want to take responsibility and pride in social development of children.
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tired of this nanny state - 17-Sep-10 22:01
I think it is dreadful when you see kids losing control and screaming in places like libraries, restaurants and general public places and no regard or discipline instilled and grow up to be the lager louts trashing everything, everywhere.
But please do not get it confused with Playing. Kids need to let off steam and cannot do this quietly. More and more free outdoor spaces are being taken away and built on. We have more empty office buildings all over the place and very little places for kids to play. What happened to 'the green' and the great outdoor life where kids could cycle and play with other kids.
All I see is very young kids dragged around for hours in a 'brain dead' supermarket where they have no intention of buying and just get bored and hungry (after seeing all the food stacked up everywhere). When I had to take my kids shopping, I made sure they had a book to read or something to occupy them while they sat in the trolley. Gave them a small snack (I gave mine toasted bread which they loved). I hate shopping but have to do it and don't expect the kids to enjoy it. However, parents with no regard who let their child scream and scream need to be severely disciplined! What an upside down life for the family!
But please do not get it confused with Playing. Kids need to let off steam and cannot do this quietly. More and more free outdoor spaces are being taken away and built on. We have more empty office buildings all over the place and very little places for kids to play. What happened to 'the green' and the great outdoor life where kids could cycle and play with other kids.
All I see is very young kids dragged around for hours in a 'brain dead' supermarket where they have no intention of buying and just get bored and hungry (after seeing all the food stacked up everywhere). When I had to take my kids shopping, I made sure they had a book to read or something to occupy them while they sat in the trolley. Gave them a small snack (I gave mine toasted bread which they loved). I hate shopping but have to do it and don't expect the kids to enjoy it. However, parents with no regard who let their child scream and scream need to be severely disciplined! What an upside down life for the family!
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Rock climbing hero - 2-Sep-10 10:13
We were never taken shopping when we were young, my father looked after us at home or in a park and my mother did the shopping. It makes so much sense really, we never annoyed others and never got to see the "I want one" goodies on display. We never asked for anything and were happy with what we got given. School hols, evenings etc. were not a problem either, we all had household chores (baking, washing and cleaning for girls with gardening and firewood duty for boys) to do and weren't allowed out until these and homework had been finished. If we played up, we got smacked, by our father - it rarely happened twice, and none of the four of us has ever been in trouble with the law, done drugs etc. I think the way it worked so well is that my Father was the breadwinner and worked as a forestry worker, my Mother was just that - a mother - who cared for us full time and worked very hard at it. Family time was important, visits, picnics and holidays. I realise now how much my parents sacrificed in the way of a social life, just so they could be with their children and teach us right from wrong, but they were happily married for over 50 years.
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Kids are back at school on Wednesday. Woohoo!
Being able to visit Starbucks, shopping centres during the day in relative peace etc is back on the agenda again. Can't wait!
Being able to visit Starbucks, shopping centres during the day in relative peace etc is back on the agenda again. Can't wait!
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