Child support overpayments advice
My ex wife is threatening to take me to the CSA for even more money which she feels she is owed. Since our separation two years ago I have my 3 children with me between 6 and 14 nights per month. Not because I have to, but because I enjoy spending time with them as their father.
I have also always paid what I consider to be over and above the expected level of maintenance for both the children and her!
...pay maintenance in line with the CSA formula
My divorce settlement advised that I should pay maintenance in line with the CSA formula, I say thankfully because this takes into account the number of nights I have my children along with my responsibility for my partner's son. This amount is much less than I have been paying but I actually haven't reduced the payments yet. Amazingly though my ex wife has now come to me and said that she wants some of the bonus I have been recently been paid, this is despite the fact that for the last two years I have been overpaying her!
Does anyone know if my previous overpayments can be counted as her share of the bonus or do I have to give her yet more money because the bonus is new? Surely if I hadn't been paying maintenance she would have been entitled to come after me for arrears, so can I do the same?
I have told her to get the CSA involved as I feel that surely my overpayments will be taken into account, but of course I am worried that I will be even worse off. Also, as I buy the children clothes, holidays, toys and each has a fully equipped bedroom at my house for them is any of this taken into account?
By: Graham
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Im actually quite pleased with the csa today, the nrp of my son has played the csa for almost a year now, promising payments all the time whilst knowing full well he had no intention of helping me with my sons upkeep (i say my son because the nrp hasnt seen my son in nearly a year- his choice, not mine)
I got a call thismorning from a caseworker to let me know theyve finnally had enough and have ordered a d.o.e on his wages thus giving me a nice sum next month to spoil my son with- well the little chap has earned it!!
I would just like to say that shouting at the case workers gets you know were, patiance will get you your just deserts in the end.
I got a call thismorning from a caseworker to let me know theyve finnally had enough and have ordered a d.o.e on his wages thus giving me a nice sum next month to spoil my son with- well the little chap has earned it!!
I would just like to say that shouting at the case workers gets you know were, patiance will get you your just deserts in the end.
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CSA, what a total f**k up! I'm a non-resident parent (mother) and I would happily spend my last on my son, no problem! So, your ex leaves you for a new partner, get's married, and the new partner decides to get the CSA involved in orde to take every penny as some sort of revenge that you were there before them..... Then the CSA decides you're responsible to pay for decoratng your childs room in your house but also you must pay for the decorating in there home to. In fact you even pay for your ex's new family to go on holiday making it impossible for the non resident parent to have any quality time with thier own child. I'm sick to death and could scream at the people that comment about victims of the CSA as they clearly haven't got a clue how difficult and frustrating it is until you've been in our situation just butt out!!! THE CSA RUIN LIVES THEY MAKE THERE OWN RULES AND DON'T GIVE A DAM THAT THEY DRIVE PEOPLE TO SUICIDE!!!!!!
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wow its women like this who give us a bad name! do not give her your bonus, the csa will take a cut of your pay and re asses it every 12 months on the last 2 payslips. if you have no record of a bonus on them payslips then you wont have to give her a penny of it- just deny recieving it! if she is going to the csa then stop payinf maintanance NOW! as the csa backdate money owed to the date of claim! your ex wife is a typical money grabber, fathers should only pay ehats needed for the child yet women like your ex wife will take advantage of fathers with more money because of how the system works! she is not 'owed' anything, that money is for your children be sure to let this money grabbing creature know it! sorry for your predicament. good luck
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Grizzly, I'm afraid Graham does have to give her some of his bonus (as well as 15% of Child Tax Credit if he has any other kids with his current parner), don't even get me started on this!!!!
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Don't pay her a penny. You do not have to giove her any bonus. You pay for the children by CSA that is it. Don't pay no more. Anything you give to her is not taken into account. You must keep a recored off every thing. Remember all you do is pay CSA. Dont give your x any money. My husband let his x have the house and all in it. He walked with his clothes that is it. She got everything. He paid CSA and the morgage as she lied and said she got not a thing. We are in a battle with the CSA. Who do not beleave she got the house and 7 thousand endowment she cashed in. And yet still the CSA are taken 40% of his wage. He does not even have enough to live on. It would not rent him a home and pay bills if he was alone. Don't fall for the trap my x husband fell for. As I said just pay what the CSA say. And good luck with them. They make up all sourts. We are a member of the CSA do not give just to fathers. The CSA don't allow them to move on.
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my grammer is not good,but you have to remember one thing in life your children are yours. joint custdody is the way to go just show love to them,be a mum be a dad over time this will become true. you dont need csa that is just a cop out get back to basics .im only writing this because I have been there myself and still am and never needed some goverment, council or any organisation to tell me how to bring up my children. im not perfect , who is!!
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Graham,payments you make to her will be taken into account if these were made after the CSA contacted you as that will be when you will be liable from. Anything you do give her make sure you keep receipts,NEVER give her cash in hand.
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Then what is the answer to having no CSA?
answers please.
answers please.
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Go to the forum afairercsaforall.co.uk
They give help for free :)
They give help for free :)
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Being recently married and expecting my first child next year, it would be easy for me to read gripes like this one and become depressed and/or terrified about my future.
But the fact is, most of us get married, love each other, and stay married, have kids and don't split up. Most women - and men - are in fact decent honest people who do NOT go out of their way to snipe and attack and steal money off others.
I feel sorry for people who've been shafted by the system, honestly I do, but guess what, there's a world of lovely people out there who genuinely want to treat you right. Things may seem frustrating at the moment but it won't always be like that. Let the evil CSA do what they will, let the bitter ex have their fun, because life will be kinder to you in the long run, and your conscience will be clear.
But the fact is, most of us get married, love each other, and stay married, have kids and don't split up. Most women - and men - are in fact decent honest people who do NOT go out of their way to snipe and attack and steal money off others.
I feel sorry for people who've been shafted by the system, honestly I do, but guess what, there's a world of lovely people out there who genuinely want to treat you right. Things may seem frustrating at the moment but it won't always be like that. Let the evil CSA do what they will, let the bitter ex have their fun, because life will be kinder to you in the long run, and your conscience will be clear.
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Gainsborough Lad, there is no 'feminist stranglehold', just a society that assumes everyone else will pay for their offspring when it all goes wrong.
Men and women can be as bad as each other with their petty point scoring. The only real harm that is done is to the children stuck in the middle.
Correct use of the English language and punctuation would make your post more 'readable'.
Men and women can be as bad as each other with their petty point scoring. The only real harm that is done is to the children stuck in the middle.
Correct use of the English language and punctuation would make your post more 'readable'.
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Shut this 'Gravy Train' quango down now. It costs £12 million to run and only collects £8 million at a cost to the taxpayer of £1.85 for every £1 collected. They persistently target the ones who pay because they are not capable of finding the ones who have never paid. Therefore, criminalising and persecuting law abiding people.
In this age of 'new' poltics. Cameron and Clegg could show true leadership by shutting it down now! They won't of course because there is no 'new age' of poltics. It's the usual self indulgence for personal and poltiical gain!
In this age of 'new' poltics. Cameron and Clegg could show true leadership by shutting it down now! They won't of course because there is no 'new age' of poltics. It's the usual self indulgence for personal and poltiical gain!
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Rippedoffdad - 22-Jul-10 16:18
Hi Graham
Unfortunatety the CSA do not take into consideration what you spend on clothes, bedrooms etc. I'm so afraid that your bonus (as with any bonus) will be taken into consideration....
If your ex gets the CSA involved then your case only starts when they get in contact with you, so any bonuses will get taken into consideration when they calculate a monthly maintenance schedule!
What you could do to 'cover' yourself is go onto the CSA website and work out how much you're supposed to pay and add up what you have been paying her, then take 25% of your bonus (as you have 3 kids) and minus what you have already paid over a year, I'm assuming the bonus is yearly? If there is any difference then pay her that. Its just a thought and its reasonable.....
Unfortunatety the CSA do not take into consideration what you spend on clothes, bedrooms etc. I'm so afraid that your bonus (as with any bonus) will be taken into consideration....
If your ex gets the CSA involved then your case only starts when they get in contact with you, so any bonuses will get taken into consideration when they calculate a monthly maintenance schedule!
What you could do to 'cover' yourself is go onto the CSA website and work out how much you're supposed to pay and add up what you have been paying her, then take 25% of your bonus (as you have 3 kids) and minus what you have already paid over a year, I'm assuming the bonus is yearly? If there is any difference then pay her that. Its just a thought and its reasonable.....
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The CSA is suppose to help, when I hear of these situation as described above, it makes me so angry!
Tell your ex-wife to get a job which pays a bonus and you want part of that for time the children are at your house.
A friend of mine has a child, paid CSA and everything else they don't seem to take into account (like buying clothes). Following an arguement between the child and the mother, the child moved in with the father permantely. As you'd expect CSA stopped (and rightly so). The mother is now sueing my the father as she says she can't afford her mortgage now the CSA has stopped.
Some mothers just use CSA for money for themselves! Note I said SOME and not ALL!
Tell your ex-wife to get a job which pays a bonus and you want part of that for time the children are at your house.
A friend of mine has a child, paid CSA and everything else they don't seem to take into account (like buying clothes). Following an arguement between the child and the mother, the child moved in with the father permantely. As you'd expect CSA stopped (and rightly so). The mother is now sueing my the father as she says she can't afford her mortgage now the CSA has stopped.
Some mothers just use CSA for money for themselves! Note I said SOME and not ALL!
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Some people use CSA to rip off - 22-Jul-10 12:18
its not always money grabbing women you know id have gladly settled for nothing to get away from my abusive ex then as he carried on being insulting and laughing at our poverty while him a very rich businessman and I worked for him for 10 years putting up with his mother and his evil snipes at me earning 75k in the divorce paperwork gets a 150.00 a month for 2 kids csa amount he has to pay me which is just another insult to our kids....id pay someone to sort this out why should a millionaire get away with that when you all seemingly not so well off dads get to pay 2-4 times this amount.....no justice either way in my opiunion and id be glad to know how to sort this one out also as ive taken a loan of 25% of my pension for us to have a car and some clothes which weve been unable to buy for 5 years!!!
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I read posts like this and wonder why people bother to get married in the first place! The dullness of monogamy inevitably leads to seperation and divorce for many people, or the familiarity and resignation of remaining within a loveless relationship. Either way, it is bloody costly!
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miserablemoaninggit - 22-Jul-10 09:32
Contact
http://deadbeatdadsassociation.co.uk
They might be able to help.
This money-grabbing parasite needs to be put in her place and you need to be careful on what the CSA will try to do to you and take what they can.
People like yourself are the biggest victims of CSA corruption.
http://deadbeatdadsassociation.co.uk
They might be able to help.
This money-grabbing parasite needs to be put in her place and you need to be careful on what the CSA will try to do to you and take what they can.
People like yourself are the biggest victims of CSA corruption.
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