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Get off my back you whining sponger

We've got a new government and they are doing their best to reduce the huge deficit that the Labour government left and, painful as it is, they are doing it the right way.  The issue here isn't the government or the fact that we're going to have it tough for a while.

My gripe is regarding the whining and complaining of those who are on a good salary and are getting child benefit too.  It was their choice to have a child, or children for those who have more than one.  The thing is, why should the taxpayer support them?  How about starting to live within your means - including saving for your future and retirement years?  I suppose most of these moaners will want the government to pay for them in their old age too, which of course will include holidays abroad, cigarettes, drink etc.

Get off my back you spongers.  I've brought up my family during the period when you were assisted with maternity benefit only for the first child and child benefit only began with a second child - though I bet most people are not aware that actually the government took more child taxation out of wages than was given back in child benefit!  But what have these people ever contributed to society?  Very little, except perhaps for yet more mouths to feed and more spongers to claim benefits in the future!

Why should I, as a pensioner, support these moaners via my taxes...

Get off my back you whining spongers!

Why should I, as a pensioner, support these moaners via my taxes, so that they can live the life of Reilly and I have to think carefully as to whether I can eat or heat.  It's about time the plug was pulled on ALL benefits and we went back to supporting ourselves by our own means.  I'm fed up with spongers living an easy life whilst those of us who have worked hard and paid taxes all our life have to struggle.

By: Gillybow

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Respect Our Goverment I've read another of your similar posts. Something tells me you are winding us up - tongue-in-cheek, but wether you are serious or not there really are people like you, and far too many of you!
We are darned well paying for your selfishness. YOU chose to have kids and we are forced to pay for them and for people like you to sit around taking taking taking taking all day. YOUR lifesyle choices are being forced upon us in that WE have to pay. It seems we earn our money in part to keep the likes of you. This is outragous.
Don't tell us to adopt your lifestyle and stop griping at you - some of us have self-respect, some of us like to do something contructive within society, and some of us like to take responsibility for our own lives thank you very much. The thing that annoys me is we have to pay to keep you, your children (not their fault and I hope they turn out better than you), your health-care (I remember you love to smoke and enjoy drinking - not a problem if you pay your taxes but I resent paying for someone elses bad health-choices) and the real insult is there's not enough money in the goverment pot to fund the pensions of those who have worked and paid into the blooming pot in the first place! People like you are takling our future away so DON'T tell us to stop griping at you!!!!!

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Critter - 25-May-11 15:53 

I dont get why the poster is so peed off, I have 9 kids to 3 dads and im on benefits because I cant afford to work. So what. If I went to work I wouldnt get the £1000 a week I get now. The government have been great to me I dont know why your all so bitter. If you want more money go out an make more babies. I did the hard bit giving birth, now my eldest (13) looks after the rest while I have a rest. Theyre dads didnt stick around to look after them so why should i

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Respect our government - 25-Apr-11 06:20 

Kw it is only a laugh when he had 4 offsprings in one post & 8 in another I did suspect all was not what it seemed.

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Cynical Boblet - 11-Apr-11 21:16 

Boblet - I would be very surprises if "old timer" is not the troll "gollum" playing both sides to the middle. It seems to amuse him to create different characters but he is not very good at it.

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K.W. - 11-Apr-11 21:00 

Well in Old Timer. I was picturing your good woman having to be the the jockey, it is nice to know your family supported you both in your hour of need, I do not think the modern family would be up for it.

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Cynical Boblet - 11-Apr-11 20:24 

You "Cynical Boblet" How dare you! If you must know I had to rely on my three brothers to help me out on that score. How cynical can some people be. I am going now, I need to take some pain killers and some whisky to calm my nerves.

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Old timer - 11-Apr-11 20:09 

I am wetting myself trying not to answer oldtimers post, I am not sure whether he is being serious or not & I do not want to appear cruel but picturing him & his good wife banging away with his bad back?

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Cynical Boblet - 11-Apr-11 20:00 

I'm new ere, and I do not like what "Paul" said 23/1/11 regarding a pension plan. My good wife and I are both 78 years old and we have to struggle along on our meagre state pensions, we can't afford any luxuries, in fact due to my being unable to work for most of my life due to a bad back, we have had to rely on handouts from my brothers and sisters. How could I afford a pension plan if I was unable to work?. Now, if we did not have help from our eight children I don't know where we would be. Life has not been easy. "Paul" you should count yourself lucky that you are fit enough for work, and stop being selfish. One day you might end up with a bad back

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Old timer - 11-Apr-11 19:22 

how can you say that I never been out of work I have a wife and too kids im on minium wage take home 250 a week and have to pay full rent and we struggle like hell how can you say it easy with your overpaid top jobs

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crazy - 6-Apr-11 18:38 

All those females who have children just to get a state handout should be sterilized......or pasteurised. And.......force the feckless fathers who refuse to work and pay for their miscreant offsprings not only be sterilized, but to be put on chain gangs and made to clean up this filthy littered country. Or......put the whole lot of the malingering spongers into camps and let them eat each other.

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Adolphus Hickler - 24-Jan-11 16:06 

If as a pensioner you are struggling to pay your basic bills, you obviously didn't contribute to a suitable pension plan, so now as a tax payer I'm paying for you!! I pay 11% of my wage to a pension and if I don't like my lot I can further my education in order to increase my job perspectives.

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Paul - 23-Jan-11 16:55 

Jules - You have never claimed a benefit? So you don't claim child benefit or child tax credit?

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single tax payer - 22-Jan-11 18:02 

My husband and I have always worked. I was shocked to discover how much money people on benefits get paid. I work for landlords and I see that on average these people get at least £9000 a year housing benefit, on top of that council tax exemption and then child tax credit, then income support, free dentist, free prescriptions, free school dinners, reduced energy bills. Panorma showed a single mum with 3 kids gets £250 per week to spend on food, and utility bills and whatever she likes. Basically £1250 cash in her pocket in a 5 week month. This is madness and encourages the majority not to work. I have 2 kids and I provide for them and have never claimed a benefit. Benefits should be for people at a time of need. I have emailed am MP who admits people live on the system as they are worse off going to work. I feel like a fool going to work!!!

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Jules - 22-Jan-11 12:35 

Gainsborough lad, I totally 100 per cent agree with every single thing you've said !!

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Lou. - 13-Jan-11 21:19 

My mistake, I think JSA does not exist any more and has been replaced by another benefit. I am not currently out of work so am not up with the latest tinkering with the names. It must cost so much money everytime they change the name and nothing else. All the stationery and computer programmes have to be altered at a large cost and for what?

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Anon - 10-Jan-11 23:04 

No, it isn't my way - don't make it personal. It is just not a workable idea. Nothing is as flexible as money and, like it or not, what you propose would cost you more in taxes than the current system.

Research Incapacity Benefit and you wil see that the last Tory government told Job Centres to steer people off of unemployment benefits on to Incapacity where possible to rig unemployment figures when that was their main concern. Now that public opinion has shifted, they want people off incapacity and onto JSA.

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Anon - 10-Jan-11 23:01 

It would cost more to administer than it would save. There would need to be a new department to oversee it and endless meetings to decide how it would work. Some company somewhere would make a fortune screwing up the computer programme that would be needed to run it – I should know, I used to work for Capita.

You would need to take into account the dietary needs of different medical conditions and all the religions. Halal, Kosher, Hinduism and ethical vegetarianism for starters. Is it going to be centralised or are you using local supermarkets? There would be an outcry and accusations of favouritism and corruption if one supermarket chain got the contract.

Someone has to pick the stuff and pack it, someone has to load millions of food parcels on to lorries and some one has to deliver them. The logistics would be a nightmare. It would cost you more in taxes than it would ever save.

And for what? Nothing at all because people would still need money for all the things I mentioned plus the ones I didn’t such as travel costs and replacing the fridge or the cooker when it breaks down.

America does not have a food parcel programme – it has a food stamp programme which runs alongside monetary payments for welfare recipients.

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Anon - 10-Jan-11 22:43 

"Quite a few working taxpayers are finding it difficult to make ends meet"

Very true but if someone is out of work how do they pay their gas bill with a food parcel? Do you think that the gas company takes baked beans?

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Anon - 10-Jan-11 22:13 

Gas, electricity, phone and water bills. Razors, shoes and socks and other clothes. A food parcel cannot replace cash payments. No sensible person could believe it would.

There are people who refuse to work but there are many more who want to and cannot find a job that pays a living wage. Your company may close or decide that you earn too much and replace you with two migrant workers earning minimum wage. You may be seeing things from the other side very soon/

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Anon - 10-Jan-11 21:22 

What about shampoo, deoderant, toilet paper, pain killers, tampons, toothpaste and all the other things people need. Basic food parcel? Bloody stupid idea!

In some areas there is no work to be had and it is going to get worse.

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Anon - 10-Jan-11 21:03 

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