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The minimum price for alcohol policy

Here's a gripe that may be a familiar subject to those paying attention to the news these days.  No more cheap beer at supermarkets because the government want to impose a minimum price for alcohol.

Cameron has hardly been in power ten minutes and he has started on the cheap beer in supermarkets being the root of all evil.  I'm sorry, but I am pretty certain there are much more important issues that need to be tackled first by our new government.

When it's really cheap I stock up for months, I only drink a couple of cans a night, but I am classed as an alcholic and binge drinker and must be controlled.  Are they basically saying I am going to go out and start fights because the drink I bought was cheap?

Don't they realise that a fair number of people in this country can't afford to go out to pubs now because of the high taxation that has been imposed on us?  The pubs are mostly empty and closing down at an alarming rate as it is.  If the minimum price on alcohol policy is brougt in then only the well off will be able to have a drink and the UK breweries will soon start to feel the effect as well.  They will no doubt follow the pubs and start closing.  So much for supporting British industries!

Glass of wine, minimum price for alcohol policy If they really want to clamp down on drink related violence, then they ought to start on the ones causing trouble, not penalising family men having a few cans of beer on the patio at night.  It's basically like using a sledgehammer to crack a nut!

Using their logic, they should be putting up petrol because people die in car accidents, or taxing chip and kebab shops because people are getting fat and unhealthy.

They will no doubt implement this minimum alcohol pricing policy and the real reason is more tax, presumably so more wasterers can sit behind desks.

Well they won't beat me, I shall buy mine in France in bulk from now on!

By: Gainsborough lad.

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I enjoy a few glasses of wine, but I do believe we should curb alcohol abuse, under age drinking and the promotion of 'cheap' alcohol, and this can be done without there being a minimum price for alcohol.

1) limit the number of alcohol licences granted to outlets. I have always been baffled by 'small' corner shops that find the space (normally one shelf in a fridge) to sell alcohol. These outlets are 'probably' responsible for selling alcohol to minors;

2) advertising of alcohol should be banned from media, for example, television, radio, newspapers and the internet. Advertising of special offers should be limited to inside the outlet only, for example, supermarkets, and the promotion should be in the aisle displaying the alcohol items only. Alcohol should also be displayed at the 'back of store'. (I am not against special offers on alcohol, providing the outlet is responsible);

3) off licenses and public houses should be the only outlets allowed to sell high content alcohol, for example, 40% and above;

4) 'happy hour' should be held between Mon and Thur only.

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Nathan Anthony - 17-Aug-11 12:50 

I like comeing into little boys and sticking my PEN15 in there ears and around there mouth thankyou for reading I needed to get this of my chest.

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mj - 1-Feb-11 13:50 

Most of the city centre trouble is caused by young, single drinkers who can probably afford it even if the prices are raised. It is sensible people who have a beer in the evening at home or share a bottle of wine with friends and family who will no longer be able to afford it if supermarkets are forced to raise prices.

Aren't ordinary people paying enough in taxes, council tax and now VAT hikes?

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Man Friday - 8-Jan-11 19:55 

Discounted booze is the scurge of Britain. Week after week I open the local paper and read about the carnage caused by drink fuelled Chavs running rampage in the city centre. Until an alternative (public thrashing?) is found I think the only sensible way to control Chav consumption is through pricing. The rest of us "honest" plonkies will have to pay the higher prices too.

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Miser Jock - 8-Jan-11 19:15 

Chalkie, I certainly wouldn't be buying an ignorant, arrogant fool like you a drink any time soon although I wouldn't need a drink to get violent and give you a slap.

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Miser Jock - 8-Jan-11 19:05 

Jocks & Yorkshiremen get drunk & some are violant but they won't buy a round large or small

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Chalkie - 3-Jan-11 23:03 

The only reason to stop supermarkets offering good value alcohol is to increase taxes and duties which are calculated as a percentage of the retail price.
IF anyone wanted to reduce the nuisance that drunks cause then deal with them directly. A return to old style pub hours would help perhaps with on the spot fines for licencees selling to drunks.

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Marsh - 14-Oct-10 16:35 

The Scottish government( In our wee pretendy parliament) were recentely defeated when they tried to push through a bill for minimum pricing for alcohol in off sales and supermarkets.
There were many points raised against the proposals including, unfair tax on moderate
drinker etc. to the point raised by both the Tory/Labour benches that the increase would not be classed as a tax, so no money would go to the exchequer, but be kept by the retailers.

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Dannydom,Uddingston, N.Lanarks - 9-Oct-10 21:40 

Gainsborough Lad, It is just another way to make money from people and , if supermarkets charge more, the government will get extra VAT so it is a stealth tax.

I like a drink but can rarely afford to go out in the evening but I do use cheap supermarket deals to buy , for example, three bottles of wine on special offer. I cannot afford and don't want to binge - I make them last and drink sensibly.

The lager louts that plague our town centres are mostly young people living with their parents and they will not be put off by raised prices.

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Kathleen W - 12-Aug-10 18:48 

If you are dinking a couple of cans a night then I don't think you are that broke! The cost of alcoholic drinks, especially the low quality high strength brands, has lowered considerably in real terms over the last couple of decades and when we were poorer before then, it wasn't just the well off who were drinking. A minimum price in proportion to the alochol content will target those who drink the low cost high strength drinks to get drunk, are more likely to cause trouble, and end up at A&E night after night.

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Craig W - 12-Jul-10 21:30 

I have never been drunk but enjoy my drink.

I don't see why the price should go up because of the irresponsible few which will make the responsible pay too.

I don't like alcohol being too cheap though as it encourages binge drinking but a fair price I will pay.

Put the prices up at the subsidised end where it can be sold at a minimum profit rather than at a loss i.e. the cheapest; but leave the rest of us alone as we already pay enough.

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Not Quite Tea Total - 15-Jun-10 15:28 

when is the government going to wake up to the fact that price has nothing to do with alcohol cosumption in this country. It`s the binge drinking culture that is to blame, caused by the ridiculous licencing laws of the past. people in Britain learned to drink as fast as they could because the pubs were only open for a short time in the afternoon & evening.

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anne - 15-Jun-10 13:13 

Let me see, the govt encourages drinking by allowing Pubs to stay open 24 hours if they want to, Police no longer arrest and prosecute drunks, instead they give them a lift home. Now we have a govt wanting to impose Retail Price Maintenance, which I thought was illegal, to reduce alcohol sales. Can someone explain this to me or am I too easily confused?

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artuk - 13-Jun-10 21:12 

arrawn, as long as the non producring bone idle b@stards are happy, the government couldn't care f@cking less, and I really mean that,

A well worded sentence to sum up the benefits of working all your life in the UK.

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Gainsborough lad. - 12-Jun-10 22:15 

Now i've got to retirement age it appears that I wont be able to run my car,drink any beer,heat my home,pay my council tax or eat.50 years working just to end up like this.

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arrawn - 12-Jun-10 14:15 

UK and N. Ireland - Massive alcoholic problems all over the UK. The cheaper, the more alcoholics there are. 24hours drinking. cheap booze, lager louts, family break ups and blame everyone else.
UK is in denial.

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Knickerbockerglory - 12-Jun-10 10:37 

There's really only a problem with alcohol in the Northern Territories of Australia, and every land near the Arctic circle, where the winter nights are long and cold, and life is rather boring. It all goes with Seasonal Affective Disorder, and the social consequences of the depression caused by lack of sunlight. There are more drunks in Scotland than in Cornwall per head of population.

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60 Units per week man - 12-Jun-10 01:17 

Forty five cans of Fosters or Carlsberg lager for twenty quid, thats Asda price.

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Rolled back for you - 10-Jun-10 00:12 

Yeah Nanny will control behaviour by all price: Long Live the State.

Hey! what about a minimum price for firearms ammunition?
It would help reduce binge-shooting, especially by the coucil-estate/inner-city 'gangies' and would encourage people to murder responsibly.

The UK seems to be full of control freaks who want to regulate OTHER people's lives. It is a trend that seems to have arisen with the cotton-wooling of school-run/permanently supervised/never go out alone kids...who are now infantilised, insitutionalised egocentic little busybodies.
Adults to a-holes in so few gnerations....weeping as I type>

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Piston - 6-Jun-10 22:21 

Brits on the whole have a bad relationship with alcohol, and seek to mask their denial at being overly dependent on it by lambasting any attempt by the government to persuade them they are drinking too much, too cheaply.
The sight of under-age drinkers getting slaughtered is very sad, as is that of the 'fun-loving' 20 and 30 somethings - many of them women - thinking that 'caning it' like they see their sleb heroes doing in the magazines is the thing to do.
It is now cheaper to drink than ever before, and the alcohol that is consumed is often stronger and more easily available and strongly promoted than at any other time.

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NHD - 6-Jun-10 21:28 

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