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Political mudslinging and election leaflets

You're probably all sick fed up to the back teeth of hearing about politics in the news and getting the general election rammed down your throat.  Well so am I which is precisely my reason for this rant.  What annoys me the most about it all is the political mudslinging that has been going on since the date of the general election was first announced.  Over night all these billboard posters went up with each of the main political parties slagging off the other.  Bear in mind that this has all come hot on the heels of the whole MPs expenses debacle.

Election leaflets

Do they really think that this kind of behaviour is likely to make the voting public cast their votes in their direction?  I think not.  In my area it was the Conservative party posters that caught my attention (not that I would ever vote for them anyway).  The Labour party isn't blameless either as we received a glossy card warning us of the imminent danger of not voting or voting for the Lib Dems and how this would ultimately mean a Tory government.  I guess they're assuming that no one around here will be voting for the Conservatives then!

Also, in the last few weeks there has hardly been a day go by where some political pamphlet or letter hasn't been dropped through the door.  By the way, these have mostly been from Labour and Conservative and some of them have been personally addressed to either myself or my partner.  This is probably the worst kind of junk mail ever.  More mudslinging and bold promises that will no doubt never amount to anything.  They're also assuming that the voting public is to stupid to tune in to a political broadcast or have a look on a website.  The cost of each of these direct mailings must be phenomenal and if we imagine for a moment how much the rest of the campaign must be costing the mind truly boggles.  Where does the money come from?  No, hold that thought.  Perhaps best not to dwell on that one.

Actually, one particular political party has been rather silent in these parts.  We haven't heard a peep from the Lib Dems.  No posters and no leaflets through the door.  I can't say I agree with all of their policies but they might just get my vote this time round and my decision would be partly influenced by the fact that as far as I can see they haven't resorted to any name calling and also there's the fact that they haven't bombarded with unwanted mail.

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Besides, they couldn't possibly be any worse than the Conservatives or Labour... could they?

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unfortunately we have a very stale political system in the UK whereby all of the parties have the same policies and cannot be trusted by the voting population. I don't even watch question time anymore because if anything the issues being discussed just seem more complex after the talking has been done. not to mention the fact that politicians never give a staightforward answer.

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mardi gras the candyman can - 5-Nov-10 15:35 

Not all countries are in recession, we are in debt because Labour borrowed loads of cash because they made to many commitments with the taxpayers money, and now we are commited to all those gold plated public sector pensions, tax credits, free benefits ect.

And we keep getting into more debt daily because this is a juggernaugt that won't stop.

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Gainsborough lad. - 11-Jun-10 22:34 

Ok kw, point taken and fully agreed with, a 100 vote cap then, but no votes for people that have been on benefit for over a year,

It's sad to think that we had maybe 5 million or more people who don't work, voting for Labour, knowing that Labour are the best party for them, because if they don't want to get up out of bed for work early in the morning, good old Labour will tax the workers more heavily to make sure that they won't have to work.

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Gainsborough lad. - 11-Jun-10 22:25 

G. Lad,

No, unemployment is not the main reason that the country is in debt. There is a global financial crisis caused by risky banking practices that were allowed or even encouraged by governments in the US and around the world.

You seem to have missed Kit's point which is that it would be unfair to assume that a person should be given more votes just because they earn more money. The low paid often work harder than the well paid but, under your scheme , the few votes they would qualify for would be meaningless compared with the thousands given to high earners.

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Kathleen W - 11-Jun-10 19:20 

The majority of this country produces little or nothing at all, I am sick of seeing people who have not gone to work for years,or if ever, enjoying a good easy life because the party in power takes not only the amount of tax needed to run the country out of my paypacket, but loads more as well for the upkeep of the idle, this propasal would make sure that only people who have worked hard for this country had a vote, and not millions of idle voting in a party like Labour who has been shown to give all the nations money over to none productive people,

That is the main reason that this country is in massive debt.

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Gainsborough lad. - 11-Jun-10 07:56 

Gainsborough, why do you think that the only value a person has is located in how much they earn?

If you had your way you would virtually disenfranchise everyone on minimum wage or just above as their votes would be worthless compared to the votes allocated to the highly paid. Bankers, who got us into the current financial mess would, under your scheme, have massive numbers of votes while people who work hard but earn little would have none!

Politicians, many of whom have lucrative directorships on the side, would also then have huge voting power and could collude with their banking friends to keep themselves in power indefinitely.

What about the recently unemployed? Martin, for example, who has posted on other threads served in the Royal Navy for 32 years but now cannot find work. Under your plans he would be denied a vote.

I know many women who, after they married and had children, divided their time between child raising and voluntary work such as meals on wheels. They do useful work that is completely unpaid.

Most workers in care homes for the elderly earn a pittance for work that is physically hard , monotonous and thankless.

All these people, are in your view, of less value than a banker or an advertising executive who earns large sums of money persuading us all to buy useless things that we don't need.

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Kit - 11-Jun-10 00:31 

Maybe peoples national election votes should carry extra points for the amount of tax someone has paid in the last year,

Ie, if someone has paid £5000-00 in tax in the last tax year, then their vote would be worth 5000 votes, but for someone who hasn't paid any tax in the last year, their vote would be worthless,

This system would ensure that the party with the countrys best intrests would get in power, and not the party who gives away the most benefit to non productive people,

The genuine disabled and retired pensioners would get a fixed amount of votes, this way we wouldn't have what we have now, a bankrupt country.

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Gainsborough lad. - 30-May-10 21:32 

G.L.

Polling stations are open from 7am to 10 pm; most people should be able to find time to get there if they really want to. If they work incredibly long hours with a long commute and can't make time then they have months in which to apply for a postal vote.

Generally speaking Conservative voters get and out vote no matter what the weather or working hours and the party is very good at organising lifts for example for the elderly or disabled. Labour is disadvantaged by many of its potential supporters not being bothered to get to the polling stations.
In my limited experience people who are disinclined to work (as opposed to those who want to but can’t find work) are as unlikely to bother to vote as they are to bother looking for a job.

The system does not favour one of the two major parties over the other. The Lib Dems are, of course, disadvantaged by the first past the post system.

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Kit - 21-May-10 23:03 

The election was unfair in my view because these days many millions of people don't go out to work, to go out and vote on a thursday is easy for them, little inconveniance, and the largest majority of people who don't work will vote labour,

The people who do work are more likely to vote conservative, but as they were at work that day, they may have not found the time to vote, I say elections in the UK should be on a sunday as in a lot of other european countries,

The way it is at the moment favours the party that looks after the non producing consumers.

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Gainsborough lad. - 21-May-10 22:43 

Now the Scots and Welsh don't like this since Labour was the majority in these principalities arguing that the English result should not over rule theirs. The Scots were quick to dictate to England though.

What hypocrites Labour are when they don't get their own way.

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Like Supports Like - 11-May-10 19:43 

Well they've decided what they're doing - at last!

"Gordon Brown has announced he is resigning as UK prime minister. Mr Brown is on his way to officially tender his resignation to the Queen, and recommend that Conservative leader David Cameron should succeed him." - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8675913.stm

Great... just bleedin' great :-(

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AOD - 11-May-10 19:37 

I find most jokes are worth repeating only if they are funny ;) though that doesn't usually stop me.

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Youthful Griper - 11-May-10 16:53 

I expect you've heard the one about crash Gordon, but just in case:

A man is driving in central London when he gets caught up in a huge traffic jam. A police officer comes towards him and says "sorry for the delay sir, the Prime Minister is in the middle of the road and threatening to set himself on fire because he's fed up with being blamed for the state of the economy. All the drivers are having a whip round for him".

The man says "how much have you got so far?".

The policemans replies "only about twenty gallons so far, but there are several drivers still siphoning out their tanks".

Worth repeating, I think.

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grumpyoldwoman - 11-May-10 16:35 

Dont worry about Congo, I was being facetious :-) I know what you mean about this election, I was appalled at the lack of publicity given to smaller parties, everything is geared up for the big three, some democracy eh!

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Rider of the Apocalypse - 11-May-10 15:44 

You asked which planet Congo was from...

I agree though about UKIP, it would've been nice to see them have more seats and a shame Nigel Farage lost out to Commons Speaker John Bercow in his constituency. It seemed the media focused on the 3 main parties, except for when Farage was involved in the light aircraft crash.

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Youthful Griper - 11-May-10 15:34 

What is the difference between Capitalism and Socialism? Capitalism is the exploitation of man by man Socialism is the exact opposite.

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Rider of the Apocalypse - 11-May-10 15:22 

Cool joke, got any more? there must be a few flying around now about fat boy Brown?

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Rider of the Apocalypse - 11-May-10 15:12 

Strange because I thought Congo was from Central Africa. Anyway, who gives a s* who won, at the end of the day, they are all the same, full of Male Cow Excrement, lets bring on PR and get a few UKIPs in, imagine a House of Commons with Nigel Farage at PMs question time, bring it on....

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Rider of the Apocalypse - 11-May-10 14:40 

Nobody won the election, whether it was fair, square or otherwise. The current electoral system works using the basic concept of a race.

The first party past the post wins (326 seats needed for an overall majority - a clear win). Nobody reached or passed the proverbial post. If nobody reaches the finishing line, nobody wins. If nobody wins then it's termed a 'hung parliament' until a deal is struck.

Yes, the Tories got the closest to the finishing line but it certainly isn't a win as they were short by 20 odd seats. If, however, the system worked by giving power to the party with the most seats without having to reach a predetermined amount, then the Tories would've won.

It would appear that Congo is from plant Earth.

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Youthful Griper - 11-May-10 14:25 

Gordon Brown taxes all done
Runs me down with my finances
Throughout the night
Living in fright
Never move on with Gordon Brown

Every time just like the last
Taxes to make up for the past
To distant lands
Takes both my hands
Never move on with Gordon Brown

Gordon Brown and his black hole
Has certainly taken its toll
Keep him far away
Or you will pay
Never move on with Gordon Brown

Never move on with Gordon Brown
Never move on with Gordon Brown

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Hazard Warming Nights - 11-May-10 13:01 

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