Ex not paying child support
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My gripe is another CSA related one I'm afraid. My sister has been split from her ex husband for a number of years and he has always been pretty elusive in making child support payments... for example stopping whenever he felt like it. Back last year he stopped paying child support for good following an argument with his daughter. My sister decided to approach the CSA for help. This guy has a limited company (he's a salesman) and is known to have a decent income, in fact he has often boasted about this to his kids and it's also obvious by his lifestyle. He has told the CSA he earns £100 a week and they seem to have taken him at his word! Given the turnover of his company is under £3 million, he only has to submit basic accounts to Companies House which don't detail his income. In actual fact we know he is earning between £35k and £60k per annum. In my view the CSA should be asking for a copy of his latest accounts, along with his books showing the current period (given that accounts are historic), they should also get hold of his company bank statements etc. |
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I'd appreciate some advice please. Can anyone suggest what approach my sister can take to get the CSA to actually confirm his income in this case? I'm sure this must apply to many other lone parents out there and seems an easy way to evade payment. In effect he is trying to stall his child support payments until his youngest is 16. I would also like to know if he can be chased retrospectively for payments if we can prove he has lied about his income. |
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Is the only way to involve a solicitor and then is there a legal right for the wife to get hold of his company accounts? I could go on as this man is devoid of any responsibility for his own kids. Even when he did pay limited and sporadic child support he told my sister he was paying her to bring up the kids!!! Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. By: Kevin |
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Hi, bit of advice needed please ;-) My partner works full time on a oil rig. He has a son with a ex partner (who has now remarried). The child is 11. We have been paying CSA since the child was 4 (may of missed a few payments but always caught up). We have 2 children together. We recieved a letter the other day advising he has to pay 398.00 per week to catch up on arrears that the CSA have discovered... (as the ex asked them to re evaluate his income against payments.) No the Mr's not a footballer!!! got knows what they think he earns... We have never ever denied payments to the child as hes his father and agrees completly that he should pay 'some' expence to help raise him.. We cant physically help raise him as the Ex wont let u see him!!! (after 3 attempts at court it was denied) Shes never worked a day in her life and her new husband has his own company so there not skint! Shes just being nasty... If we dont pay the 398.00 per week for the next 16 weeks there threataning to take him to court to take his passport.. but he obviously needs it to go to work!! Were looking at setting up a ltd company in my name so i can employ him and pay him basic wage. Will this help at all?? Any advice will be much appreciated ;-)
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Fact is every case is different, with different peoples situations. There seems to be no fair system, because it's almost impossible to deal with people who are hell bent on 'winning'. As the child of divorced parents, there was never a winner, not financially or emotionally. I know people who have children knowing the relationship has broken down, but are happy to claim benefits to support these children. I know fathers who refuse to pay support because they don't have a relationship with their children so no longer feel responsible. I am not writing to bad mOuth anyone of the situations, I just think each parent needs to put their emotions about the relationship to one side and do everything they can so that there is a winner, and that's the child. To make sure all children are supported financially, but most of all emotionally by both parents.
There are exceptions to this if a parent is such a negative role model
There are exceptions to this if a parent is such a negative role model
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my sister is having a very simular situation recently except the csa have sed that her ex keeps changing jobs so he cant keep up with him she really dnt no what to do!!
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These women want these children and 99.9.% of the time they are in the case of a relationship break down given custody now wether men want these children or are tricked or trapped into having these children they are expected to pay for them for the rest of their lives.Women have the choices these days more than they have ever had yet they bleet on about how hard done by they are because they are left holding the BABY.I haven't got children my choice,my husband has paid for his son since he split with his ex.She decided to get the CSA involved because he wasn't forthcoming with the information that she thought she was intitled to.Well I am sorry but we have always paid and we have been constantly hounded by the CSA so any one who says that the CSA is easily manipulated is VERY VERY WRONG!!!!!
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HATES THE CSA - 20-Feb-11 20:51
I so totally understand what you are going through as I am in the same boat with my ex which
is avoiding topay maintanance in any way possible, and CSA is so easy to manipulate into his favour..
is avoiding topay maintanance in any way possible, and CSA is so easy to manipulate into his favour..
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Hi Kevin
Glad to see you are trying to support your sister to the best of your ability. You should be proud. Ignore the ignorant, hate speech, fear mongers who state that your sister is NOT entitled to child suppport because she most definately is, just because a relationship breaks down, a parets responsabilities dont!.
Sadly becaue your sisters ex owns a limited company, her ex is seen as an "employee" of that company. And the amount of money the company make is irrelevant as he is seen to earn a salary. He can choose to make that salary minimum wage if he so wishes... HE can pay with his house, car etc with something called dividends from his own companny. I'm not saying this practice is right but its a small minority do. Its not impossible to prove.... but its much more difficult!
Good luck! x
Glad to see you are trying to support your sister to the best of your ability. You should be proud. Ignore the ignorant, hate speech, fear mongers who state that your sister is NOT entitled to child suppport because she most definately is, just because a relationship breaks down, a parets responsabilities dont!.
Sadly becaue your sisters ex owns a limited company, her ex is seen as an "employee" of that company. And the amount of money the company make is irrelevant as he is seen to earn a salary. He can choose to make that salary minimum wage if he so wishes... HE can pay with his house, car etc with something called dividends from his own companny. I'm not saying this practice is right but its a small minority do. Its not impossible to prove.... but its much more difficult!
Good luck! x
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Good luck cateyes and ensure you attend the tribunal hearing, I was suffering from depression and had my hearing postponed but didnt re-instate it in time - case was closed Now I'm getting £20/month ( that is when I get it, usually after several phone calls to CSA as my ex husband doesnt even want to pay this measely amount even though he's a company director - architect) If anyone out there knows what I can do now I'd love some advice - CSA have said def too late to re-instate hearing even on mediacal grounds)
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I can completely empathise with women who want their ex-partners to pay a fair contribution to their child (50/50) and want the father to see their child. It is my belief that both parents should be equal and should have both equal rights and responsibilities towards the child.
However there are also thousands of mothers out there who are not fair. They attempt to financially "punish" the father through the CSA because the CSA is a completely unfair system and allows them to do this. Furthermore, these same women also feel that they are the only parent who has a right over their child and any rights the father has are the one's that the mother chooses to give them depending on how her mood takes her on a daily basis. If the CSA was a system that was fair and took in to account how much it actually costs to raise a child to a good standard of living rather then going with the approach of "the more the father earns, the more he pays" - a lot more fathers would be reasonable with the CSA. The CSA are simply a device to allow some mothers to get one over their ex-partners and using it as a further tool to using your child to control you. I am a fair guy but also a very clever guy. I am sick of this system in this country and will no longer be be harrassed, abused and victimised by it. When the CSA decide to play fair and the courts learn to treat both parents equally, at that point I will also consider being fair. In the meantime I will put 3 fingers up to the CSA....with the letters "L", "T", "D" imprinted on them.
However there are also thousands of mothers out there who are not fair. They attempt to financially "punish" the father through the CSA because the CSA is a completely unfair system and allows them to do this. Furthermore, these same women also feel that they are the only parent who has a right over their child and any rights the father has are the one's that the mother chooses to give them depending on how her mood takes her on a daily basis. If the CSA was a system that was fair and took in to account how much it actually costs to raise a child to a good standard of living rather then going with the approach of "the more the father earns, the more he pays" - a lot more fathers would be reasonable with the CSA. The CSA are simply a device to allow some mothers to get one over their ex-partners and using it as a further tool to using your child to control you. I am a fair guy but also a very clever guy. I am sick of this system in this country and will no longer be be harrassed, abused and victimised by it. When the CSA decide to play fair and the courts learn to treat both parents equally, at that point I will also consider being fair. In the meantime I will put 3 fingers up to the CSA....with the letters "L", "T", "D" imprinted on them.
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I currently have the same problem with my ex I have appealed against the decision he told them he is earning 109.00 per week and he is living in an expensive flat running a car and having several holidays I am now going through tribunal hearing with him he has to produce all accounts bank statements for the company also personal bank statements and they cannot lie. If you want to check on other things check with company house where they can supply a little information on the company there are too many loop holes in the law allowing them to get away with things and the CSA are a waste of time the do not want the hassle of looking into anything so crossed fingers I may succeed GOOD LUCK!
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It takes 2 people to make a child, so why should all the responsibility be on the the resident parent (parent with sole care) to raise and support there children, isn't the responsibility 50/50. So why should the non resident parent be allowed to get away with not paying a penny towards there childs/childrens upbringing. If they don't want to pay for there children maybe they should have put something on the end of it.
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I have read this comment and would to like to highlight how it also affects me in a similar way. I have also read the responses to this comment and cant believe how many people this actually affects. The Weekly Gripe have been kind enough to allow my website to be included on their website. It is a site set up for people to come and air their views on this matter. So please take the time to have a look and show your support. Its called They Deserve Better and I think it can be found in the Resources Column. Let's be heard for the sake of our children.
Thanks. Ali
Thanks. Ali
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the csa is a complete waste of taxpayers money!! My son is 16 and since seperating from his father 15 years ago the csa has been unsuccessful in collecting any maintenance. They have failed my son and thousands of other kids in the uk.
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My god what is wrong with people on here, wether or not a woman has a new relationship a father should still be paying for his child/children. FACT
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I assume your sister isn`t in another co-habiting relationship. If she is, she should stop pestering her ex and get on with her life.
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My point I was maken is the CSA take everything you have. And don't allow you to live. So that is useing the children for money and means to beet hubby over the head. If it was not, she would get on with her life and let x hubby get on with his life.
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But she is useing them for money. If she wants the children to live with her than it is up to her to keep them. I never got a penny for my two children. I never asked for a penny off there father. I moved on and let him move on. Let him move on in life. If the CSA get him he will have not a thing. They don't even leave you enough to rent with. If she loves her children as I am sure she does. She should let it drop. Don't use children as a court battle. In the end it is the children that got hurt. I did it with no money off the dad. And I have two lovely children. That are happy and not bitter.....
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Grizzly
She is not using the children to make money. She is expecting their father to help support his children financially. Parents divorce - children don't.
I am very sorry about your sick child and wish you the best but it has nothing to do with the case above.
She is not using the children to make money. She is expecting their father to help support his children financially. Parents divorce - children don't.
I am very sorry about your sick child and wish you the best but it has nothing to do with the case above.
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Tell your sister to leave her ex husband alone. And let him move on in live. They are not together now get over it. Tell her to get on with her life and stop useing her children for makeing money. I love my children and would noever ever use them for money. She has the children so tell her to get on with it. It is her to keep them and her to pay for them. Think how will the children feel when they grow up and see the mother used them for money. Some people are just not fit to have children.
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Why does your sister want money off her old husband for her children? Please I don't understand at all. My husband has had the csa on his back for a few years now. I have a really ill daughter who has a brain tumber. But it is the evil women that claim csa that destroy lifes like my husbands old wife does. we have lost so much taken away by the csa. We can't live on what they allow us his old wife is on around 1,600 per month benifits my husband is trying to move on and keep his new family us.I have two children to a old husband and I have never clamed a penny off him. My children are not there to make money out off my old husband and battering him over the head. Why do you women do this Why? My daughter is dieing and we are not even allowed a bit of money so she can be happy, to go to the zoo would be nice for her. But no the csa take our money
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*investigates the validity of starting a limited company in the future as opposed to getting a vasectomy.
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