Fathers, contact with children and the CSA
18-March-2010
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I received a call from CSA today saying my partner had asked them to contact me for child support payments.  Now as a father I have no problem paying for my children but the situation I find myself in is the reason for this gripe.  Sorry it's a bit long but hopefully you will understand why I am so angry about this.

On the 2nd April I found out my partner of 10 years had been having an affair with a guy from her work.  I asked her if I had any chance of fixing our relationship, to which she replied she didn't think so.  So for the next week I sat around at home in a deep depression listening to her talk with him on the phone, after another 4 days he stopped calling.  She became upset and I told her to go find him and find out what was going on because if he didn't want to be with her would she give me another chance.  She went and met him and he told her he wasn't sure if he loved her and thought he was having a nervous breakdown.  She came home very distressed and I supported her through this for a week.  I then asked her if we could try again and she said we could.

For the next two weeks I took over the finances, bought her things on a credit card and promised to get her out of the debt she was in.  On the 2nd of May she was involved in a car crash and spent the day in hospital.  On her return home I nursed her for a week.  I then found out she had been in touch with him again and had been sending him pictures I had taken of her.  I was devastated and said that if she contacted him any more I would leave.  She told me she had called him and said not to text call or speak with her again then she said to me "I am sorry I don't want to hurt you any more and I want to be with you."  I believed her and we carried on trying to rebuild our relationship agreeing that once a week we could have an evening when we would be intimate together.

Then I found a message on Facebook from his best friend saying "nice pics, speaking of pictures there has been a misunderstanding call him".  This was in respect of a picture she had seen of him with another blonde girl.  I questioned her about this and said "If you are not in contact with him, why would there be a misunderstanding?".  She said I was being paranoid and although I didn't really believe her, I carried on trying.

The 18th of July arrived, a day I will never forget for many reasons.  I had set up the students breakfasts and sent a text to her asking her to put the milk on the table when she got in at 2.00am from her work.  I received a call from her saying she couldn't come home at 2.00am as one of her work colleagues friends favourite uncle had died and she had to stay on.  I became suspicious and wondered if she was lying and was actually with him.  I called her work and it was engaged, I waited 10 minutes and called again to find it still engaged.  My suspicions heightened.  I called his mobile and it was engaged.  Both phones were engaged for 40 minutes.  Eventually I got through to her work.  I hung up and called his phone again and told him to "Just leave her alone."  I called her again and asked her "Why are you talking with him again?", to which she just said "I guess because I still love him."  I asked if we were done and she just said "Yes."

Out of anger I stupidly went to his house and took it out on his car.  I know that this was a silly thing to do and I was duly arrested and spent the night in a cell.  when I came out the next day I was up for 3 charges, one for criminal damage and two other more serious charges.  She had alleged that during the last night we were intimate together that I had said "If you don't sleep with me I won't pay the mortgage..."  The later of course was all just her word and completely untrue, no evidence at all for any of it.  I have never done anything wrong in my life, never been in a police station and no way would harm anyone.  I paid the mortgage solely for 10 years and transferred all spare cash to a joint account and for the last 3 months to her account.  I looked after our two children ages 3 and 9 five days a week, cramming all my 37 hours into Saturday, Sunday and Monday morning, while she went out to work to fund her spending.

When I was released on bail I couldn't return to my house as she was a witness for him and also due to the charges against me from her.  She moved him into my house the night it all happened and he has been there ever since.  On the 19th of July I received a summons to court for a non molestation and occupancy order for the house for her, and a non harassment order against him.  After talking with my solicitor it seems these orders would be put into place no matter what and on the 20th of August the most serious charge was naturally dropped due to a complete lack of evidence.

Relationship breakup

So why do I have a gripe with the CSA?  Consider this.  She is living at my home with her new boyfriend who earns £30,000 a year and she has earned the equivalent of £44,000 (£22,000 normal salary) a year for the last 5 years due to me looking after the children and her being able to work a lot of overtime.  Also on top of this they have the students living there probably bringing in another £300 a month.  I never wanted to leave her and if I could have still been there I would have been.  She is refusing to let me to see the children and now wants me to pay her £280 a month through the CSA when I have a monthly wage of £1,350 and outgoings of £1,110 due to having to rent a place and pay off the £5,000 credit card bill I ran up trying to keep her!  This is without the £280 child support and the £220 an hour for the solicitor I have to pay to get access to my children.

How can the CSA do this when it wasn't my choice to leave and I want to see my children desperately?  I feel that the CSA needs to look at each case individually.  They should look into whether it was the fathers chose to leave the kids and whether or not they want to see them because some mothers out there are spiteful and just deny access to the kids for no valid reason.

By: David


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Gainsborough lad, have you been entirely fair to your son? from an outsiders position it seems you have projected a lot of your anger and bitterness onto this poor young man. Divorce dreggs up extremely powerfull emotions on all sides, and tragically, it is the children who suffer the most. Perhaps he doe"s not have any ulterior motives? Remember he is the unwitting victim of a messy divorce. You need to put your own hurt to one side andtry to re-establish a connection with your son, he will have his own feelings that can be hurt.
*Just curious  22-Feb-2010 09:57

 
anona, to make things clearer, he is well into his twentys now, it has been discussed with workmates, and the changing of his surname in the local paper at 18, is enough for them to side with me completley.
*Gainsborough lad.  21-Feb-2010 21:59

 
Anona, the facts are, and they are true, his mothers father died of a heart atack arguing with her at the age of fifty two, (they both liked arguing)

My son was at the time twelve years old, and poisened - stopped from seeing me, in revenge for not liking her dad, no comments were made incidently,

Six years on he changed his surname to my ex-wifes second husbands (she cheated and divorced him later) he let me know via a congratulations you are 18 advert in the press, with his new surname,

Then three years ago he finds out about his new three sisters & brothers, and tried contact,
(he can see them on facebook),

I am not stupid, it wouldn't be to see me, now he knows what it is like. clever little b@st@rd.
*Gainsborough lad.  21-Feb-2010 21:50

 
GL,

I do understand the hurt you must feel but he changed his name when he was 18, three years after he tried to make contact with you when he was 15. I still think it was a lost opportunity; if you think that you are not the person his mother painted you to be then you could have shown him that.

If his mum poisoned him against you then you cannot blame him for not wanting to see you before. You are still his father and could have been the bigger person. I think that it is a shame you did not try considering how often you tell us here that your ex prevented you from seeing him. This was your chance to forge a new relationship with your son.
*anona  21-Feb-2010 21:27

 
Anona, he changed his surname at 18, and let me know in the local gazette, he was well poisoned over ten years of being in the sole hands of his mother,

Then he finds out about three sisters & brothers, do you think it is me he wants to see?

My turn to be nasty now, but no harm in campaigning for the rights of other fathers out there.

And that is why I am on here, to point out the wrongs in this country, and make my point of view.
*Gainsborough lad.  20-Feb-2010 19:22

 
gainsborough lad , your son tried to contact you when he was a teenager but you rejected him.

("Guess what, my lad tried contact three years ago, my turn to say what he told me..." Posted on 12/7/2009 11:07:10 PM problems with CSA payments )


You have said that your ex poisoned his mind against you so you can hardly blame him for anything he had done in the past.

He wanted to get to know his dad but you threw a tantrum! You could have had a fresh start with him and built a new relationship. There could have been a different future in which you were his dad and friend, in which you could have been a grandad but you threw it away because you could not forgive his being the son of the woman you hate.
*anona  20-Feb-2010 19:10

 
"A future fair for all" is Browns new 2010 election slogan,

when it is a CRIMINAL OFFENCE for a mother to stop the father of her child, seeing the child,

Is when things will be fair, until then, things will be unfair. but only for the father.
*Gainsborough lad.  20-Feb-2010 18:44

 
Chris, the name "child support agency" doesn't look good for children any more, as it is promoting marital breakdown with cash,

That is why they are re-naming it, that way they can't be accused of falsly having childrens interests at heart.
*Gainsborough lad.  10-Feb-2010 20:34

 
CSA don't care. Their primary and only only objective is to get the money.Essentially Baliffs.

They don't care about your situation.
*chris  10-Feb-2010 17:52

 
The CSA don't know jacks**t about parenting. A good friend of mine has 2 children by his ex, and he hasn't seen them for 3 years as their mother has taken them into hiding and won't let him see them. He's now married to my best mate and they have a 1 year old daughter together, but he naturally still longs to see his other kids. The CSA have recently gotten in contact with him and are demanding almost half of his monthly salary in maintenance payments, refusing to take into account his current living costs and the fact that he's been trying to get access to his kids all this time. It just makes me sick that his new family could end up on the streets because his slapper ex is a money-grabbing cow who probably makes more on her benefits than my mate does in a full time job, yet she won't even let him see the kids she's demanding his salary for. The CSA should be put before a firing squad and shot for all the heartache they cause.
*Mallory  23-Jan-2010 20:19

 
once again merry christmas and a happy new xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx yearxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
*not florida girl  04-Jan-2010 13:50

 
Doh, you are a tw@t, Germans open their xmas presents on xmas eve, I thought you were clever enough to know that.
*Gainsborough lad.  31-Dec-2009 20:44


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