My ex turned the CSA on me
18-March-2010
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First off I'd like to say hello to all the good, responsible fathers out there who are treated unfairly bythe mothers of their children and the CSA.  My story is simple one and may sound quite familiar to some of you.

The mother of my children and I were together for 2 years when she fell pregnant with our first child.  Everything was OK with our relationship and we soon had another child.  Sadly, our relationship hit rock bottom and we broke up.  Things were a bit fragile between us for a couple of months after we parted, but we began to move on and things soon got easier.

I then received a letter from the CSA asking me to start making payments, which was fine, I was more than happy to support my kids.  But after a while I moved into my own place and financially I was struggling.  On top of bills I couldn't afford to pay the CSA as well as pick up my kids for 3 days a week, spend money on them doing things etc. I had a good chat with their mother and between us we agreed that I could stop paying the CSA, as long as I had the kids 3 days a week and got them anything they needed, for example new clothes.

This was the arrangement for two years and then after a big falling out with their mother, out of spite decided to contact the CSA and tell them I hadn't paid anything during that time.  Shortly after I received a bill for almost £4,000!!!  I was flabbergasted and immediately rang the CSA and asked how they had calculated that figure.  I asked them to consider that I had the children for 3 days a week for the last two years and had been paying towards them as in food, clothes etc.  Basically, the reply I got was "prove it" - which of course I couldn't.  Who keeps receipts for a pair of trousers or trainers for their kids?  Not me unfortunately.

Ex turned CSA on me and I can't afford to pay.

As I result of this I now have a huge dept over my head and now have to pay 40% of my earnings straight to them.  How do they think fathers can live and pay this?  I lost my job recently and they still insist I have to pay.  How the expect me to do this I don't know.  I have no problem paying money to support my children but this is crazy.  I would have to get two or three jobs just to earn enough to support myself and pay the CSA.  A father who has to work all time so never gets to see them is not good for children.  Both parents are needed and I'm fed up with being made out to be someone who does not care, or does not want to pay.

Also, how can their mother simply choose when I can and can't see my kids?  It's been about 5 months since I last saw them.  How is this fair?  There are to many cases like mine that go unnoticed.  Something needs to be done here because clearly this system does not benefit the children.  Women should not be able to use the CSA and the kids to exact revenge when they feel like it.


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my ex reported me to the csa becouse her words was i'll have u for all you have. well I pay £135 per month and been doing that for 7 months now
1 day I was short buy £10 and I rang them an ask them if they could give me 1 day grace to get the £10 an put it in my bank so I can pay GUESS WHAT THEY SAID NO!!!!!!!!! they said (cas) get some eles to pay the money and you give that person the money I told them I pay £135 for 7 months on time EVERY TIME and you can't give me one day GRACE due to mis fortune on my money they said you have to look after your money better
*jason  08-Mar-2010 15:57

 
try being me mate I have care of my 7yr old son and next week they trying to put me in jail or take my driving licence of me for 2yrs.plus they want £135 a month for arrears even though I will have no job and a child in ncare if either of the above happen
*truly f***ed  02-Feb-2010 18:23

 
My ex (an Alcoholic) and I had 2 children, the youngest now 13 lives with my wife and I, the eldest, almost 15 lives with her mother. Everytime my wife and I get some good news or have a holiday, my ex just calls the CSA and asks for me to be reassessed, this causes me hours of paperwork and sleepless nights, in 1 year I had over 40-yes forty reassessments, with the CSA sending me out different amounts to pay everytime, one day I received 2 letters from them asking for different amounts/ month that varied by over £150:00!! This agency is just a cushy little number for the people that work there, basically to keep people off the dole. I thought I'd sorted all the problems when my youngest came to live with me, yet yesterday I received the dreaded call from the CSA, saying she had asked for another reassessment. Last year my eldest daughter came to me in tears-her Mum-my ex had been missing her Mortgage payments and had missed the court date set for the Eviction to be served-it looked like the house was going to be repossessed-I cashed in a policy and gave her halve the money-£5400:00 and this is how she repays me. I hope she drinks herself to death as she is nothing more than a greedy, sponger that uses this incompetent agency to fight her battles. I will pack my job in before give these people anymore money.
*Big Mac  13-Jan-2010 06:51

 
I feel your pain. I have for 13 years been dealing with them and their inadequacies from their plethora of underhand immoral decisions and actions. I have just tonight agreed with my ex to remove the involvement of the csa. I only say this not to make you feel worse but tell you about the only things you can do. Either pay up on the csa's terms, or make an agreement with your ex (which I know can be very difficult), or just dont work.
I found after fictitious arrears calculations, to which they would not redress and an absolute disrespect to Non Resident Parent's rights, rediculous monthly payments increased by minimum of 20% on top (£5XX minimum in my case starting NOW) and the total lack of empathy for NRPs financial situation, I had no other option but to drop to my hands and knees and beg for a financial agreement from my ex outside of what I call the 'personal financial black hole with teeth'. If you intend to work, explain your situation
to your ex and for that matter her situation and agree that it would be best for both of you financially if you were working.
No work=no money for either of you.
Work= money for both parties.
But HE or SHE must abide by any agreement or the NRP (YOU) will fall deeper into the teeth. It is also a much healthier existence for both of you and your children. Although there can be a need for financial support to be enforced but not in such a biased manner by some inept 3rd party.
Take or disgard what you can from this, and best of luck, .....i do feel you pain friend.
*Dundeebundee  27-Nov-2009 20:24

 
I have just read with interest the gripe about the CSA, well let me begin my ex wife bless her has had thousand of pounds in cash from me while claiming benefit and working as a hairdresser,so when I got married again 6 years ago she decided that she as she put it wanted some more of my money and my house so she drops the scum (csa) in my lap.well in nov 2006 they tell me I am £4156 in arrears and that it would be coming out of my wages at source so since then I have paid them nearly £8500 and now they want more even though one of my kids are 19 and the other one is coming 17 so I have to agree after many calls to them I get the feeling one hand doesn`t know what the other one is doing so god help anyone else getting involved with these CROOKS
*Fatboy  09-Nov-2009 19:58

 
4 Gainsborough lad, my first wife was a slag, she did the same to her 2nd husband, she can't get anyone now as her bad reputation is known all over this area, my dad doesn't want her either, she is on her own, she can't argue all day long anymore, as being on her own, she has no-one to argue with.

And just because the government started the CSA, doesn't mean that it is an ok "agency", and sorry to repeat myself, but your CSA employee friend is scum, others on here will agree.
*Gainsborough lad.  05-Nov-2009 22:09

 
floridagirl, all you ever post on this site is hating men comments, the way you go on about it means you must think about it all day long, every day of your life, why don't you find a hating men website and stay on it, I have yet to see a comment of yours on anything else, there are seven hundred and seventy five differant gripes, but all you gripe about is hating men, you need serious help, no wonder you can't get a bloke, only in the usa.
*Broad sword  05-Nov-2009 20:27

 
Gainborough lad, my friend is scum? at least he can keep hold of his wife unlike you! got a limp d*ck have you? couldnt you keep her happy in the bedroom?She would rather have your dads c*ck up her! go speak with your doctor, am sure they can sort something for you.
*4 gainsborough lad  05-Nov-2009 19:16

 
as for this poor lad whos post it is when my ex-dragon first got on to csa the saying she did not want the money off my original assesment back in 2002 she was warned that if she did not go through the csa that they would not entertain her the the future. but how come when you upset them ie usually getting on with your life looking happy ,getting re-married,better job .where you can tell them to psis off and leave you alone they can just go to the csa who can legally shaft you.giving these female dogs their spiteful glory and you complete devastion they should make a nrp the head gaffer and I bet you things would change when he cant go for a pint while his ex has dropped the kids off to a baby sitters that hes paid for getting psised on drink hes paid for going home with some waster in a taxi hes paid for and probably use the condom in the top drawer that he never got to use cos she was a fat frigid heffer when he used to live with her.oh that feels better as you can tell I dont like ex -wives
*dandd  03-Nov-2009 18:18

 
gainsborough lad the ex is re-married to a sound bloke who I know will be keeping out of it but is currently in a good job making good money spoke to the csa today because I offered my son the prior arrangements money as long as a reciept was given by the dragon but she refused and to see if I could count my ndaughters car tax off the debt (cos then she would have no car as well as no money) computer said no but bless it was only £66 that her mother just said you will have to get of your dad but I dont know the lass on the phone seemed quite sympathetic or is this just a ploy,but one thing I feel confident about is when I said I was self employed she said oh my god as in thus was a wasted course she said put last years accounts in wich were low due to no work and my dads death I told her I got a tax rebate and she said ill probably get a nil assesment I said I give last five weeks pay slips but only worked two cos there is no work up here at the minute
*dandd  03-Nov-2009 17:48

 
dandd, having read your post five times, I think the best thing for you to do, is to tell the CSA that you are currently out of work, not earning any cash at all, and offer a them a fiver a week, (in the weeks that you are a bit flush with cash you can treat your daughter a bit more as you have been doing up to now)
Now she is 18, surely they should be giving up, but then again, it sounds like your ex doesn't want to do full time work to pay her way in life as she thinks full time "paye" workers like me will keep her.
*Gainsborough lad.  01-Nov-2009 17:40

 
my ex has just got the csa on my back after a row over my 18 year old quit a good job with good career prospects to do a college course to prime herself for minimum wage for the rest of her days they want £176 a week im self employed and in &out of work mostly out iv always paid my way but in a private arrangement and always treat the kids xbox wii playstations driving lessons cars insurance and all the rest of the stuff the little darlings cost I dont want to give her anymore than was arranged and im trying to teach my 18 year old alesson by telling her im not paying for to mess her life up but her mother whos never had a full time job in her life has went to the csa has anyone advice on how I can get round this by the way im not doing a good job teaching my daughter she is costing a fortune at the minute has got a pot to pee in
*dandd  01-Nov-2009 10:52


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