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CSA maintenance payments advice?

Hi Folks... here's another CSA gripe unfortunately.  I am hoping someone can perhaps advise me on my current situation regarding maintenance payments and deduction of earnings, in particular what happens when you have an arrangement outside of the CSA.

I split with my wife in 1995 and happily made maintenance payments to her from day one for my two children.  One of them is now aged 18 and starting university soon, the other is now 15.  By the end of 1997 the CSA was taking so much money from my income that I was two months behind on my rent.  Also, my phone had been cut off which was a great inconvenience and I had no insurance or tax on the car etc.  It was a very tough situation to be in.

CSA maintenance payments advice? At this point I saw my only option was to leave the country and work abroad, which is exactly what I did.  In 2000 I returned to the UK and worked for 3 months before I got a letter from the CSA demanding over £10,000 in arrears payments and telling me that the outstanding monies would be collected from my salary - deduction of earnings etc.  Again, as I had no alternative I left the country and have now been living in a different country for 12 years.  During this time I have had a standing order in place to my ex wife paying maintenance directly to her at the start of every month.

I now have the opportunity to return to the UK in a salaried position. Does anyone know if the CSA will pursue me for the payments over the last 12 years that have not passed through them?  Would I be coming back to huge arrears, probable court action and a situation similar to the one I was in when I left?

I would like to return to the UK but being left with 60-70 pounds a week as I was previously will not make this a viable option.  Anyway, I'd really love to hear any advice anyone can offer.  Thanks

By: Stuart

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The csa can only demand money if you are getting an income in the uk , if you dont work they will be entitled to a percentage of your unemployment benefit , if you work and live abroad and then return , you only have to pay a percentage of what you earn in this country , they arent entitled to anything if you work or live abroad ! Makes us all want to emigrate the csa are scum !

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Matt f - 3-Nov-11 18:18 

i think the csa should start every case with a blood test ecspecialy the father is unsure weather the child actually belongs to him they only take the mothers word for it and what happens to the mother when it is proved she was wrong about the father apparently nothing my partner is being accused of being a father after bringing the child up for a year he was told by the mother that he was not the father so the natural thing was to move on and he got on with his life then three years later the csa was on his back and have been ever since the child is now seven years old and its been a long drawn out battle we just want to know either way so we can get on with our lives

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lee - 10-Oct-11 15:10 

I am here to support “Not Evil’s comments as I had been in the same circumstance also. It’s a shame she was hurt by other members’ comments and I can only express my sympathy but I will always applaud her efforts at having lived through a relationship with such an evil man yet remain her children’s main carer.
My ex husband was also a cheat. You would think him the sweetest man but once you know him better, you would sooner become another chapter of his domestic violence statistic. I was already pregnant when I discovered what a liar, cheat and abusive person he was.
I lost all self confidence after being married for about 2yrs. I lived it through for 10yrs and managed to stay sane for my child’s sake until my ex husband found another woman and moved out 8yrs later.
Like Not Evil, it took a lot of strength to start divorce proceedings because I thought he would live for our child as I did and make the best of our relationship. My husband had been paying for s..x else where, having a number of affairs not to mention his violent side. He moved out with everything he bought in the marriage. That included the telephone cable which he ripped off the skirting board. He couldn’t care less over the fact that his child would not have a Telly to watch or the internet to use [considering our child has autism and has a compulsion to watch bbc news on the internet].
He takes me to court on average every 3 months (for THE most stupidest things you can imagine.) The judge once told him to be wise and stop making a ridicule of himself because he continues to represents himself).
Like Not Evil, I am also just glad I am not the average single mum out there however I also gave up a fantastic job to look after my autistic child so why shouldn’t he pay regular maintenance?
He tried to see my child only when it was convenient for him also, notwithstanding the fact that I gave him access. To secure the child’s mental well being due to the need for a routine associated to his autism, I had to take him to court to make him agree to have set periodic contact because I didn’t think my child should loose out on the privilege of shared time with both parents. As a result, he then decided to mess me about with maintenance because I dared take him to court ever. None the less, i thank God for CSA because the £? has been of immense value financially.
Like Not Evil, my child is also my priority not the father! He is financially solvent but his holidays abroad with his new woman and garden parties seem to be a priority over child maintenance
He had 4 other children from 3 previous marriages before we met so I always worked to allow for him to support these other children only to find out later that he wasn’t paying their mothers.
Apparently I hear he is planning to start a new family which from his past I know will not last either, so even more CSA payments are on the horizon for him.
Surely, Men like my ex give other men a bad reputation. The CSA are not evil, if it wasn't for them I would not get a penny from my ex husband too.
You make children you pay for them if you can’t remain their main carer. Only a wise man remains in a relationship/ marriage to share the financial and physical responsibility of raising a child. Enough said!

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fair deal - 8-Oct-11 21:22 

I have been paying csa for 11 years I have not seen my children for 8 years or know where they live or anything about them through my money grabbing ex

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lloyd - 14-Apr-11 16:05 

they will persue to the last penny,unlike my ex wife who left me with our two children to bring up,yes I was awarded payments but never recieved a penny,£13 997.31p,still owing,even now my chidren r in thier 30s.we managed ,men seem to have a hard time,

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jocky - 30-Mar-11 20:22 

Andy - I am a single middle aged woman with no children. I work full time in the private sector and pay my taxes. Can you tell where the government "free money" is because I have never seen any.

My taxes go to paying the free child benefit that you recieve for your children, the free child tax credit that you receive for your children, the free health care that your wife received when she was pregnant and the free education that your children receive from taxpayers money.

It seems to me that you are doing ok on your handouts GL.

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MS BROOKES - 16-Dec-10 23:35 

If you've left the UK permanently (cease to be habitually resident) and have proof the CSA were informed then the CSA must be closed. There will be no liability for the period you you not in the UK.

That of course doesn't stop them chancing it!!!

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Average Joe - 2-Nov-10 08:37 

"but this was not something I wanted to do so I spoke to he about abortion etc and she pretty much sai she will go ahead with pregnancy with or without me ."

Damian, did you not think to wear a your wet weather gear in the first place? Sorry, but if you consider yourself man enough to be at the conception, then you should man up about being a father and deal with the consequences of your actions - whatever they may be.

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Bexter - 27-Sep-10 08:22 

you looser pay for your kid whats up with you? There make you pay it even if its like 20years later

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sarah - 27-Sep-10 01:08 

it's rong to be made to pay maintenance when you have spent 3 years fightin for contact with your child, costing some 3k a year, especialy when there is no reason why you can't see your child other than the mother doesn't want you too. Also when payments were being made direct to the mother using an account she provided but then she decided that's not what she wants either and closes the account this should show that she is just being awkward and clearly does not want the money so the csa should close the case. its absolutely disgusting how women can play the system messin with their kids lives just to make their ex's life hell! oh and this was written by a women!!

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kez - 1-Jun-10 19:22 

If she confirms the payments you have made they will deduct this from what you owe. If you have a private agreement now then they won,t ask you for more money but they will still chase you for the previous arrears! ow and if your ex decides to disagree with the payments you have already made the CSA won't take the amount of your arrears! The CSA needs to be closed down they are far to concerned on pulling money in and have no regard for the fact that they are making people homeless or the fact that people are paying thousands to try get contact with their children when there is absolutley no reason why they shouldn,t see them! Good luk

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kez - 1-Jun-10 19:11 

hi , my situation was a little like yours , I have now a 14 year old daughter and I have been working abroad for lenghthy periods . I got a woman pregnant when I was 26 , we did not really date I guess it was more of a fun as and when type thing , she was 10 years older than me with two boys age 9 and 7 . She got pregnant on purpose as I was tld from her friends , in the hope I would settle with her , but this was not something I wanted to do so I spoke to he about abortion etc and she pretty much sai she will go ahead with pregnancy with or without me . I saw the child briefly when born , briefly when 2y old and briefly when 3 yr old . This was all down to her hoping I would play ball relationship wise . She made my life very difficult and revoked my visits , called my parents , called my at the time girlfriend , called my work . I decided at that time to takean opportnity to work abroad , came back to th uk regularly but never gained contact with daughter , set letters with no reply , booked mediation sessions , spoke to a solicitor , all costs alot of money . Anyway when the child was 11 I receved a leter from the csa stating I had a debt of £17000.00. Non paymet for 11 years !!!! the mother was offered every chance to take my help , let me be involved , and be there as a father or even just an extra support , she refused all this over the years . So after workig abroad and not hearing from the mother or the csa for 11 years , I had to pay the bill of £17000.00 or face jail or loss of license . I hae been to court numerous tmes ove the lat 2 yearsand all they are interested in is the money !!! once they have yo they wony let go , trust me I hav tried every avenue . Debt will stand until paid no mater how long it takes . They bringme to court evry3 months for money updates m can I pay more etc

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damian - 7-Apr-10 22:28 

I am confused as to why you thought you could leave the Country and not pay any money? Surely if you was in the UK you could expect to pay Maintenace. I have a situation where my Ex Husband is leaving to live in Australia with his new wife and yes the money will be missed but what really gets me is how someone can leave there 9 year old daughter in the UK while is goes off to start a new life with his new wife and oh yes you have guessed it, she wants a baby! My Daughter is heart broken!

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Lou - 1-Feb-10 11:11 

joke, that is why I wrote 'usually' and not 'always' you dimwit, obviously you are one of those fathers that are angry towards mothers that only want the best for their children. Read what people write before you have another 'paddy' [I also wrote it not always the case that the mother can give he best care]........you are a typical man, a joke, sorry to offend decent men!

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dr no way - 9-Dec-09 13:14 

"the best person for the job as mother is usually the mother am I not right"

The best person is NOT always the mother, a father is just as capable

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joke - 8-Dec-09 10:56 

Yes they will chase you, A friend of mine had her ex move abroad, he owed her 35,000, when he came back, had a nice car and house, but not for long, they made in sell the lot to pay the arrears

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Shazzer - 2-Dec-09 13:27 

oh and I never condoned the abusive mother, not sure where you got that idea from?!

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dr no way - 24-Nov-09 16:34 

sorry about your situation who care, but I am a little confused at what you are trying to put across, are you saying it is wrong to pay towards your own children? and if the mother (that has care of children) earns more money than the father, am right in thinking you are saying she should not get any money from the father, I am a little confused in why you feel it wrong for a mother to have as much money as she can have to give the best possibilities for your children. yes a father should give his love to the children, but that also means giving the children a stable life not being passed from parent to parent every other day with no definite home situation, a child should have 1 home and 2 parents and if the parents live a part than the needs of the children should be met first not the need of the parents, children need stability and if the mother can give the best care (not always the case) then it is the father that needs to step aside and let the mother do what she needs to do to raise and protect and nurture and care for those children with help and understanding from the father, but it is sad to say that most fathers are angry at this very thought, the fact is a mother is a mother and a father is a father, and the best person for the job as mother is usually the mother am I not right?

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dr no way - 24-Nov-09 16:32 

What a load of rubbish Dr no way. You are an idiot! The whole crap about an ex taking your children away and then she also gets paid to do that is rubbish. People like you need awakening to this crap. Better life my butt, I was in that situation as a child, So don't tell me its better. And yes she was working in fact earning more then I did so get your facts straight. You aren't a good father if you condone abusive women taking away our children at will. If she wants to do it alone then that is her problem. Far as I am concerned I want my children and to give my love. In fact I paid her more then I had to but now, stuff her and the system.

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Who care - 24-Nov-09 00:51 

if she has gone to college then she (or he, if the tables are turned) does not pay csa as they do not earn money. All you men out there, was your ex wife working when you were married? if not why should she go to work now, it was obviously both your decision for her to stay at home to bring up the children so what has changed now, and if she is on income support she must declare you to the csa otherwise she will not get income support, men that moan about paying towards their children put a bad name to fathers that do and have no upsets about doing so, the more money the mother has the better life style the children have, so what is the big problem with giving your kids the best possible life.

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dr no way - 13-Nov-09 17:09 

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