D600 latitude password problem, no support from Dell
17-March-2010
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D600 latitude password problem, no support from Dell

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I have a Dell Latitude D600 laptop and recently it began to smoke (no, not twenty a day... an electrical problem!).  So I duly decided to replace the motherboard and found a suitable candidate on eBay.  Well all good things come from eBay don't they?  I was lucky enough to spot a Dell D600 laptop for spares or repair, no screen, no hard drive or memory, just a motherboard and the plastics.  Well buying things in this way can be quite risky, but at 0.99p purchase price and £15 delivery I thought I'd scored a bargain (as long as it works that is).

The simple paperclip method to remove the 595B password

Well there's the thing.  The Dell D600 laptop base I' bought worked okay, but unfortunately was protected by a Bios password.  For those who don't know, unlike desktop computers you can't reset a laptop bios by removing the CMOS battery as the password is held on an eprom.  So no quick fix.  A brief chat to Dell tech support quoting my service tag enlightened me to the fact that I'd need to prove ownership before they could help me reset the master password; name, address or even a postcode would have been sufficient.  The seller of course could not provide me with any of this information and in fact his English was so poor email communication was quite torturous.

As it happens, I discovered various tools on the Internet that may be used regenerate bios passwords in the event that they are forgotten.  Unfortunately, however, my Dell D600 has a service tag that ends in the dreaded 595B which is more or less the kiss of death as far as getting into the bios myself is concerned.  I haven't yet tried the Dell Service Tools (DST) which supposedly allow the service tag to be erased/changed (presumably to use one for which I have a password - See Google).  From various forums I have visited though, I gather that they don't always work and it's questionable as to whether or not it will help me get passed the dreaded white screen with "this computer system is protected by a password authentication system".

What options are open to me now then? I've read, again on various forums, that the Dell laptops with a 595B service tag can have the Bios passwords reset via a small procedure involving a paper clip.  It involves stripping the laptop down to the motherboard and locating the eprom then shorting out a couple of pins for a short while.  A risky procedure I hasten to add and one I will only take as a last resort.

So what's the focus of this gripe?  I guess it's Dell really and the way the whole service tag/ownership thing works.  I can understand the reasoning behind it but the system is so inflexible it truly beggars belief.  Stolen laptops are an issue, but at the same time there is a lot of buying and selling that goes on quite legitimately, and in some cases details of original ownership may not be transferred.  Not everyone is diligent enough to ensure that Dell is kept up to date with names and addresses and the person buying the laptop may not know they need to tell Dell they've bought a laptop from you and give them your name and address.  Of course when they then sell that same laptop a few years down the line and don't have your details the next person definitely not have any proof of ownership.  The whole thing kind of reminds me of vehicle logbooks and the DVLA, but it doesn't work well for laptops because people don't see them in that way.

Dell D600 Latitude laptop, bios password error

What's the solution?  Well there isn't one at the moment, at least not for me other than the paper clip thing.  If that doesn't work then I've bought myself a nice little doorstop.  The guy offered to refund me (at least I think that's what he meant), but it would cost to send it back so probably not worthwhile.  The moral of this story is: Don't buy a Dell laptop (I could just leave it at that) on eBay without first checking that the person has proof of ownership or that the laptop is working and doesn't require a password.  Incidentally, once you've got your laptop you can apparently transfer ownership online.  However, as I mentioned before, it just takes one person in the chain to forget to do that and the connection to the service tag and Dell support is forever broken.

Now where did I put the key to the stationary cupboard....?

Oh... there's my paperclip

I can tell you from experience that the paperclip method of getting past the Dell bios password on these pesky 595B really works.  If you've no other choice then this is the route to go (at your own risk of course!).  Just click on the thumbnail to see the full size image.

Dell D600 underside showing screw holes

Take out the screws on the underside of the laptop as shown.  Some of these could probably be left in, but at the end of the day it's easier to do it now than to come back to it.  Make a note of which one goes where because this will save you some time later.

Dell D600 removing the plastic strip

Turn the laptop over, open the lid right up and remove the plastic thing with the buttons on it.  There should be a little slot that you can get a screwdriver into on the right hand side as shown.  Might be tricky if it hasn't been off yet but don't worry if it bends a bit.

Dell D600 removing the keyboard and screen

Remove screws for the screen then place it to one side.  Next remove two screws holding the keyboard in.  The keyboard is attached by a connector underneath, gently prise this off.  You'll need to plug it in again later, but its easier to work with it out of the way.

Removing the top plastic on a Dell D600

There are a few more screws that need to come out before you can get into the motherboard.  Once you've removed these screws the top plastic case should come off.  Don't expect it just to lift though, you'll need to carefully unclip it and it might take some persuading!

Remove the PCMCIA slot

You should see the PCMCIA slot on your left.  It's held down by two screws that need to be removed.  You can probably just about get at the top one there.  Gently manoeuvre the PCMCIA hardware out of the way and you'll see some black plastic underneath.

Dell D600, access to the 24C02 chip

You should be able to pull that flappy bit of plastic back to reveal the motherboard underneath.  To get to the eprom in question you'll need to tear the sheet a bit more because the chip is to the left.  It's sticky though so putting it back in place later won't be a problem.

Pull back the black plastic

Just tuck that bit of plastic off to the left out the way.  There you go!  That's the cookie that we need to play with right there.  Note the little spot on the chip that indicates the position of pin 1.  If I remember correctly we need to short out pins 3 and 6 to completely reset the password.

Access to the 24C02 eprom

The chip inside mine was a 24C02 and the pins we're after are second from the bottom on each side.  I've highlighted them here.  Why couldn't they have put this somewhere a bit easier to get to?  OK, now bend your paperclip into a 'U' shape with the ends about 4 or 5 mm apart.

Shorting out the pins with a paperclip

Shorting the pins just as you're booting up seemed to do the trick.  The timing is odd and sometimes it doesn't boot.  Keep at it and eventually you'll get a screen telling you to press Fn-X.  You'll get a few 'Invalid configuration' type messages along the way but this is normal.  Alas I didn't get a photo of the screen though.

The power reset button

Don't forget to plug in the keyboard in and the reset button looks a bit like this without the nice plastic strip.  Once you've exited the bios your laptop should boot up as normal.  If at any point during this it refuses to power up at all, switch off at the mains and then back on.

If my guide has helped you get your laptop working and you want to say thanks... :-)


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I have a way that in 1 minute will clear all passwords without interfering with the bios chip ricoslask@interia.pl
*ricoslask  07-Mar-2010 20:58

 
Nice One. Had to clear Bios password to do clean install. Mine has the 24U02 chip & worked fine. I used a small membrane switch soldered to the connections to be sure I didn't short anything else out. Worked a treat.
*Eldarin73  19-Feb-2010 22:45

 
finalmente he conseguido sacarel pasword de la bios! lo que ahora me pide un pasword del disco duro, me sale este mensaje: ''the system primary hdd is protected by a password authentication system'' alguien sabe como lño puedo sacar? graciassssss
*miki  18-Dec-2009 18:01

 
buenas, haber si alguien me puede ayudar!! he hecho lo que pone y me sigue pidiendo al contraseña.
Mantengo el clip en las dos ultimas pestañas, pero no em arranca asi, lo que hago es sacar el clip y cuando arranca lo vuelvo a poner hasta que me sale el mensaje de presione fn-x despues de eso aprete fn+x o no y con el clip puesto o sacado, me vuelve a pedir contraseña, cual es mi error?
*miki  18-Dec-2009 15:40

 
Thank you! Excellent step by step instructions! I did use a pair of tweezers and got the perfect results. Pin 6 first, then 3, then just as predicted......Nothing in the way now. Great Job!
*komrade  17-Dec-2009 23:48

 
Guys,
If you have a HDD (hard drive) password set, this is actually set on the Hard Drive and won't be reset with this method. You will have to replace the Hard Drive seperately.
This method with reset the rest of the BIOS passwords though. So it should only be a Hard Drive replacement. I have never found a way to clear a HD password.
Having said that, you can get a IDE 2.5" hard drive fairly cheap these days. I paid £35 for a 160Gb drive from aria.co.uk
Play.com sell 300Gb SATA drives for about £40. (works great on a PS3)
Installing the new OS onto a PS3 is a different matter, you need to setup files in the RIGHT FOLDERS on your external HD for this to work.
Dave.
*Disco Dave.  27-Nov-2009 19:08

 
I have a Dell D510 which suddenly decided that it didn't want to do anything. Completely dead.

Nice. Another door stop. Oh but how about good old Ebay?

Found a used board for 60 notes and got to work replacing it. All great, but oh look, a BIOS password was set. Tried various things off the net. The Latitude program to read the password. All no joy. So tried this paperclip reset trick. Hey presto. All cleared and working well.

I would say though when you power on, make sure that you don't short anything else out, you dont want to blow up your nice new board. But all worked great for me.
Definately worth my donation!!
Thanks again!
Dave.
*Disco Dave.  27-Nov-2009 19:00

 
I have a inspiron 6000 and before I open it, is there any one that has sucessfull make it to work? and if how and where is the chip locaded?

gordo1972@msn.com
*gordo1972  29-Oct-2009 03:28

 
"Shorting the pins just as you're booting up seemed to do the trick. The timing is odd and sometimes it doesn't boot. Keep at it and eventually you'll get a screen telling you to press Fn-X. You'll get a few 'Invalid configuration' type messages along the way but this is normal. Alas I didn't get a photo of the screen though."

You do not have to keep at it to get it right, basically it's a 2K serial EEPROM (these things can hold their memories for 40 years). Therefore to get it right the first time make sure that pin 6 (your Serial Clock pin) is the one that you establish a connection with first, then as soon as you boot up short or trigger your pin 3 (chip enable input 2) and voila you have 5 secs to press Fn - X or it starts up Windows XXXXXXXX. I found the best way of getting this done without a hitch is by using a pointed pair of tweezers. Be sure to wear an antistatic wrist strap to avoid ES damage to the motherboard and components, in other words just make sure you ground yourself constantly. Silicon Valley Rocks.
*Ted  16-Oct-2009 11:38

 
This definitely worked for us. It took a few tries but it worked out nicely. We were finally able to alter system settings.

Thanks a lot.

-- www.designme.ws
*Chris  04-Oct-2009 22:06

 
thanks for your post ... I have a d-600 but my problem is not this one ( the cooling fan won't turn and so the computer stops booting at the blue XP screen to protect the CPU + I need to add a 1 GB chip to the 512 that is already there) ... BUT ... I thought your resourcefulness and determination were commendable ... as was your care in posting the steps to solve the problem ... it's things like this that make the internet what it is ... real people sharing real info that actually works ...!!! -- billusa2000@gmail.com
*Bill  19-Sep-2009 04:11

 
omg, is this only for the bios password, and not for the hdd password?
*gookoolio  12-Sep-2009 02:17


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