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Bar staff can't pull a pint properly

I am an enthusiastic alcohol consumer (Guinness being one of my favourites) and have been for a number of years. I frequently enjoy a pint after work and at the weekends.  I always try to visit new places I enjoy the pub atmosphere and what it has to offer.  Having been a bar person for many years in my younger days, it was always a position which required a certain amount of skill and due diligence to perform properly.

I am becoming increasingly more frustrated by the lack of care shown by bar staff these days.  More often than not I order a pint of Guinness in the pub and I am presented with something looking like a dog's dinner.  Bubbles on the top, foam pouring down the sides.  I have found myself having to clean the glass with a handkerchief so as to not risk getting any of this monstrosity on my suit.  In these current times of financial hardship, for lots of people being able to go to pubs is not an option and so you would think bar staff would be making the effort to please customers.  At the very least they should be trained to pull a pint properly and if they can't manage that then the job should go to someone who can.

A bar, guinness, man drinking A level of skill required to pull a pint properly...

For those of you who have worked in bars before you will know that there is a level of skill required to pull a pint properly, especially with Guinness.  However most bar people I see these days set the glass down flat and pour the Guinness from a great height.  They fill it right to the top without allowing it to settle, slap it down in front of me like I'm a dog and relieve me of £3 of my hard earned cash.   I can tell you I'm less than impressed with this kind of hospitality.  The Shamrock on top isn't mandatory, but pouring the pint properly should be!

Although taste is certainly a big factor in an establishment's ale I personally think presentation is just as important.  Is it really that much to ask for a pint that tastes and looks good?  We are not animals so shouldn't expected to be treated like them.

By: Steve L

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I feel very insulted by this as I am a 21 yr old bar maid, the way you have stated that all bar staff now cant pull a pint is ridiculous, I pride myself on my job I have worked in many pubs before and I have only come across a very small handful of bar staff that as u put it 'can't pull a pint' (guinness) yes I agree a small handful is lazy about it but you could at least state that not all staff cant pull a pint.
with guinness it is not differcult to tilt the glass at the right angle, fill just over halfway, leave to stand, pull tap backwards and to finish off a nice little shamrock on top.
now for what you have written it sounds to me that you have been drinking in pretty crap pubs and if it bothers you why dont you say something to them at the time instead of insulting all of the good bar staff out there on this site.
i like to talk with customers so they feel welcome, and if I happen to set a crap pint on the bar it does not take me long to realise this and offer to pour a new one.
like I said I pride myself in my work.
this I must say again is the most insulting thing I have ever read about my line of work.

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!!penny proud bar maid!! - 1-Jan-11 14:29 

pay peanuts and all ya get is monkeys...
totally agree with you on the general standard of slop being handed to the customer...the problem originates in training and continues due to managerial interest being more focussed on increasing profits

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fed up with this stuff - 26-Jul-10 16:11 

I find it annoying too. When I order half a lager at the bar nowadays I have to wait 5 minutes before the bubbles disappear and then ask the barman to fill up the glass to the top. It's such a waste of time. If they just tilted the glass and poured the lager in against the inside there would be no need for any of this. I suppose bars are doing this deliberately in the hope that most punters will just take the glass away when the bubbles are still frothing and take a swig or two as well, and they won't realise they've been shortchanged until they've reached their table long after paying up and when its too late to ask for the glass to be filled properly.

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Grumpy xx - 20-Jul-10 21:46 

get a life.no one cares about your bloody guinness.

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uratwat - 5-Jul-10 23:07 

No, you have it Wrong.
I was saying that we should all shut up, and just appreciate what we have, and not complain.
But I understand your point of view, as oppose to Angry! Who it is clear didn't sit University.

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? - 30-Apr-10 16:00 

Starving kids in Africa don't drink Guinness (@poster below)

I do and I think it's important for it to be poured properly - but unfortunately it seems that there are lots of bar staff who don't know how to do it.

Often this is because they are from a different culture and aren't aware of how a large head or a short pint can irritate drinkers.

There's no point being pessimistic about this, it won't help, we just have to put up and shut up I suppose.

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Beer Drinker - 10-Mar-10 02:55 

if any of my staff pulled a pint of guiness like that, I'd show them the door!

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Lynn - 9-Sep-09 10:11 

P.S, Thank you LOL, I agree that you should buy one from a shop.

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? - 25-Aug-09 17:51 

Dear Angry! I never said anything about Taxis, and Dear Dark Angel, Thats why we have MCDONALDS. For all the rubbishy poo that couldn't make the Tescos collection.

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? - 25-Aug-09 17:50 

Yes dear ? - It's people like you that simply put up and shut up that are the root cause of poor service and shoddy products here in the UK. It's because of people like you that they think they can get away with it. Sod the starving in Africa. I want what I've paid good money for!

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Dark Angel - 23-Aug-09 11:03 

Dear ? July 19th.


In response to your post saying people should just appreciate what they have in life becuase there are starving children in Africa. Would you be satified and happy if you got in a Taxi and asked the driver to take you to your destination and he dropped you 2 miles away? Would you be ok with that because there are starving children in Affrica...? I think not! We pay for and deserve good quality and service, that is what we pay!

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Angry! - 22-Aug-09 23:48 

if you want a drink pulled the way you like it-do it yourself go to a shop
(saves you money too) and pour it yourself

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LOL - 22-Jul-09 21:07 

Personally, working behind a bar for years, I can pull a good pint. I was taught to pull Guinness in the same way Mark Ramsay describes in his post - Mark Ramsay 17-Jun-2009 02:06 and it does make a difference how it's served. In a clean glass and without half the drink down the side and with a decent head for a draught is just good customer service. Another thing is when staff serve in warm glasses staright from the glasswasher - tip, run it under the cold tap and DRY IT first, pouring cold beer into a hot glass not only affects the beer - it can crack the glass. On the other hand, I will deliberately give someone a cr@p pint if they are rude and obnoxious at the bar for eaxmple:
Waving £20 note over bar and shouting "Oi! Come on!"
Grabbing my arm as I'm serving someone else.
Changing your mind halfway through me pulling a pint then moaning because it takes longer to finish serving you.
'Haggling' the price down.
And the classic:
Customer -"Pint of Guinness please"
Staff -Pulls pint properly
Customer - "Hurry up, I haven't got all day"
Staff - "It takes a little longer to pull a Guinness properly, It needs to settle,sorry"
Customer "Just get on with it!"
Staff - Does as bid by always right customer
Customer - "Where's the cream at the top? Where's my shamrock? You can't pull a pint properly!"
Staff - Head explosion

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AAAARG! - 11-Jul-09 11:34 

Ok, ok I will agree that pulling one PROPERLY takes skill, but if people in this world would just settle for what they have, then we could settle down and become a nice happy family. But, There are starving kids in Africa, so if people weren't so fussy, then they would be able to respect what they have and not take it for granted. On other matters, how do you put a frothy shamrock on a pint anyway?

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? - 11-Jul-09 10:38 

As a bar person I agree Guinness is a drink that needs skill. I do not like Guinness but if I was to I would want it to look like a nice pint rather that having one that has no head, foam all down the sides and a pile of bubbles on the top. Out of 5 people that work behind our bar, only 2 of us can pour a good Guinness. My land lady is the worst at pouring it.lol. and she says she is the best at pulling a perfect pint, Ye right!!!

HOW TO PULL A PERFECT PINT OF GUINNESS!!!
1. Get a clean glass. (Always serve out of a fresh glass)
2. Hold at a 45 degrees angle.(Making shore the nozzle does not touch the glass or drink at all times)
3. Start to pour by pulling handle towards you.
4. Fill glass till it's a fingers width from the top of the glass.
5. Leave to settle for a couple of minutes.
6. Last but not least, Fill the rest of the glass by pushing the handle away from you.
(A SHAMROCK IS OPTIONAL, AND MAKESURE YOU DON'T OVERFLOW IT UNLESS THE CUSTOMER ASKS FOR YOU TO FILL IT UP, BUT THEN YOU MUST WIPE THE GLASS BEFORE SERVING!!!!)

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Mark Ramsay - 17-Jun-09 02:06 

"There's no skill in pulling a pint!!!"

Try it if you think it's so simple. It may not be rocket science but there is definitely a technique to doing it properly.

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MikeP - 3-May-09 18:21 

There's no skill in pulling a pint!!!
How to do it:
1: Pull the lever
2: Serve!

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? - 2-May-09 13:53 

Ban alcohol for causing problems??? Surely you've got to ban religion and any thing else as well in life.

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Alex - 22-Apr-09 01:02 

Beer lover - Surely people do not need beer to have friends, or do I misunderstand? Could people not have another drink that does not contain any alchohol or is it the alchohol that gives us all the social skills to make our friends?

Don't get me wrong I am not tea total. I have a pint a week but not every week.

But that is getting away from the original gripe - a poor pint - I have not really noticed this I have seen bar staff using less than clean glasses though.

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a coffee is ok - 25-Mar-09 21:23 

"I would not complain if alchohol was made illegal"

No, you probably wouldn't. But there again you're social skills are probably lacking so you wouldn't miss NOT having a pint with the friends you don't have.

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Beer lover - 25-Mar-09 20:07 

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