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Employers not employing British workers

I must admit to not having paid too much attention to the news in the last week or so.  Having been job hunting myself for quite a while now, I've kind of had other things on my mind and not really had the time.  However, I had a few moments too check the headlines this morning and what I read there put me off my breakfast.  As a British worker, even though I don't work in this particular industry, I was left feeling more than a little betrayed.

In case you have also missed the news...  Hundreds of workers across the country, mainly at oil refineries and power plants, have been protesting about the use of foreign workers at the Lindsey Oil Refinery in Lincolnshire.  Total, the French oil giant who owns the plant has awarded a £200 milion contract to Italian firm IREM to construct the new HDS-3 unit at the site.

Well quite frankly, employing foreign workers when there are suitable british workers out there doesn't sit well with me even when the economy is booming, but we're in a recession now and I think that fact alone makes all the difference.  Perhaps it's far too easy for companies in the UK to hire a foreign workforce and there should be insentives for employers to choose British workers intead.  Make it so that employing the native workforce is the path of least resistance?  There again, Total isn't exactly a patriotic British company so why should we expect any loyalty there?

Construction workers I don't think that it would be right to force companies to employ British workers and there are some cases when foreign specialist skills are needed.  Come to think of it, there are few people out there that would say British workers are lazy, they're not as good and they cost more than foreign workers.  Okay, some of that might be true, but for every slacker out there there are probably hundreds or even thousands of perfectly willing and competent workers waiting to fill his shoes.  The foreign workers we see here aren't the dead wood.  They're the ones that go the extra mile and work hard.  We have people like that here too and I think that they should be given a chance.

I suspect there's no right or wrong answer in all of this, there's just a feeling of great injustice where British men and women don't have jobs where perhaps they should.  I'm also pretty sure that our bumbling fool of a prime minister isn't going to do anything to help in any way whatsoever.  They can hold urgent talks with industry leaders and be as optimistic as they like, but it's just too little too late.

So if you're out there on the picket lines this week, you have my full support in all this.  Oh and another thing, I for one, will not be stopping to refuel my car at any Total petrol stations on my way to the Jobcentre!  It's a small thing I know, but if enough people did small things maybe big companies and governments would pay attention.

By: Paul D.

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this question is good answer by business persons. they know who works better and who take day off, especially, in weekend who will be sick !!

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den - 5-Jan-12 14:29 

I can't believe it. Employers are going overseas to hire Indian Subcontinent Graduates. Why? Because they are much much cheaper. Because theirs is a very unequal society, these Indian graduates can hire loads of servants to do their domestic work for them, even on the low wages paid by European employers. To graduate an Indian does not have to pay such a huge amount of money to their universities.

In the meantime UK students have to obtain ever and ever higher students loans. Employers are NOT going to hire UK graduates, because they are too expensive, becuase they have to pay huge charges for their educations' loans.

Self-defeating!!!! isn't it?

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It Doesn't Add Up - 12-Aug-11 10:34 

In order for employers to want to choose "English" people, young people will have to accept wages about half those which were acceptable to their parents. That's right, they will have to accept the minimum wage, and work long hard hours to earn it.

Many will have to work for free for many, many months.

Don't expect ever to be able to pay back your student loans. The Governments of the future will have to wipe them out as a bad debt.

House prices will drop to one quarter or even lower than they were 2 years ago.

Cheap Britain will return. Many will emigrate as boat people to other lands, and crawl through the channel tunnel the other way, to France. France will build huge camps for "illegal" British immigrants.

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Future Reality - 16-Jul-11 23:44 

The only solution is for the UK to seriously reconsider its membership of the EU. Of course, this is highly unlikely to happen because all the main political parties are in the pockets of Big Business which demands a cheap workforce. The succession of failed governments that our so-called democracy leads to cannot even deal with the worryingly high level of immigration from outside the EU . British employers will always choose foreign-born workers mainly because they are relatively cheap. The only way to improve the appearance and social skills of many of the currently unemployed young British people is by ensuring that they do have a job; the increased self-esteem that arises from this and the necessity of socialising with other workers will - given time - teach them new ways. However, the continuing 'cycle' of employing cheap, foreign labour leading to more unemployment in the UK and hence further erosion of skills, including social skills, continues, and it can only be broken by a government determined to deal with the issue fundamentally. Unless something is done, then the UK is moving toward an horrendous period of potentially very violent social unrest.

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miserablemoaninggit - 10-Jul-11 17:40 

Here he goes again folks, mikep, Landlord. Many business's in many countries. Are we Brits in the gutter? I think not. Is mikep full of umgower? I think so. It is my opinion that he would not even make an able assistant to Mrs Miggins. Being unfamiliar with carrot tops or turnips, Bless him

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Boblet - 9-Jul-11 15:56 

Finally my manager has formally admitted that "offshoring" is the cause and reason why I have not had a proper pay rise for 6 years, namely Nil. After 11 years withthe company I am 15% down in real value despite many "promotions", all of which have been phoney or sham.

He has said, when trying to negotiate a pay rise this year.

"Since 2000 Information Technology has moved to being a "commodity market" and globalization has caused many jobs to get relocated to low cost countries. Thus salaries for IT professionals have decreased in Europe constantly since then. Taking this into consideration I'm convinced your salary is very compatible to what is paid by other companies. Payrise denied."

Offshoring has destroyed the quality of the work done. Workers offshore are not as skilled and professional as those on shore are or were.

Offshoring has wrecked many careers in the home country, ours.

Offshoring has destroyed many peoples ambition in this country.

Offshoring will reduce house prices and wages across the board. All will lose.

Britain and the EU must halt offshoring now. Everyone is getting a bum deal.

When I leave my job my employer will not rehire here in the UK, nor in Europe, but in India.

I am not a fat, chavvy, tattooed, pierced, badly-spoken, semi-literate Poms, but one hellovva an angry one!

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Really Angry Person - 9-Jul-11 13:24 

If I run a business in a particular country, I look for the employees who are the most appropriate for the position. If they are not nationals of that country, so be it. Specifically, in the case of the UK, there are proportionately more well-spoken, decent-looking, proud, literate and hard-working non-Brits to fill a lot of positions than there are Brits.

I would not want fat, chavvy, tattooed, pierced, badly-spoken, semi-literate Poms working for me. It's often harder to source decent people from the locals, so those of you who complain that your jobs are being 'taken' by foreigners need to look at yourselves, pick yourselves out of the gutter, and remember that you did not object to joining the EU, so you have ended up paying the price. That's democracy!

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MikeP - 9-Jul-11 13:20 

A list of jobs where it seems English people are no longer employed: bus driver, supermarket checkout operator, post office counter assistant, petrol station attendant, parking enforcement officer, postman, lavatory attendant, ticket collector, cinema ticket seller, immigration officer, ethnic restaurant staff, train driver, cleaner, fast food takeaway outlets, providers of a personal service ...

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Aghast - 9-Jul-11 12:55 

Unless we get out of the EU there is nothing we can do to change the current status. Unless, as the rest of Europe does, we ignore the rules.
See how the French are stopping immigrants from crossing the Italian border, yet we allow illegals into the UK, and pay them to stay here.
I spoke to the manager of a Rhine Cruise boat which was registered in Sweden, brought into Europe (he didn't know how) cheap labour from India/Sri Lanka to work in the kitchens, simply to keep costs down and only employed EU crew for customer facing roles.
He also told me about the long hours all the crew worked, and when I asked him about EU limited working hours he simply said, "We have a business to run, such silly rules are for the English, not the rest of Europe".

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artuk - 29-Apr-11 19:49 

Eastern europeans go home or pop over to vince cables house !
If he likes you guys so much he can house the scum , we in England take this crap it's time the English to takes a stand .
Kosovan gang leaders , polish drug dealers & Bulgarian fraudsters go home .
Take the Romanians with you .

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Brit 1 - 14-Apr-11 18:10 

If all cheap imports were banned then the useless public sector workers in politically correct non-jobs (who with luck will soon find themselves out of work) would be able to work in factories producing the stuff we no longer imported. From diversity officer to t-shirt machinist.

Works for me!

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grumpyoldwoman - 11-Apr-11 16:58 

Globalisation is equivalent to economic "dumping".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/dumping_(pricing_policy)

Stop chinese, indian, indonesian imports now.

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Pro-Protectionism - 11-Apr-11 16:31 

Eastern Europeans ! Well they are not welcome here bunch of crooks !
People trafficking , drug dealing , credit card fraud & benefit scams .
Oh and the famous polish cleaners all working cash in hand- fine them & the fat cats that employ them !
Just take a look in the media . Bunch of wasters send them back - and their crap builders !

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British bulldog - 28-Mar-11 18:31 

I don't blame u guy voting for BNP is true there are too many immigrants and there less job for British people!I'm a Vietanmese person who born in UK and raise here.I'm 26 still got no job been unemployed for 3 years.trying to apply for McDonald and Asda in leyton last week but guess what?they got a Indian and foreign Polish worker!who can't even speak English!I did try complain and guess what they say?try china town!now who racist now?

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alan le - 9-Feb-11 08:36 

People, they´re immigrants ´cause we and US supported their dictatorships or our corporations corrupting everything. Obvious, we didn´t see not even a pound of what our kings, our politicians, our bankers have got. They live, we and the immigrants survive.

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Scotswoman - 6-Feb-11 21:18 

Come on FFS, Gainsborogh Lad is the essence of this wonderful site where we can rattle on about things that effect us, I have even been known to change my mind after listening to some of the arguments, the site & the people who contribute to it are brilliant, carry on griping. all of you in this wonderful free country.

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Boblet - 4-Jan-11 10:20 

If I were to vote, and I never have and never will, I would most probably vote BNP as a protest against the rest. There are other parties for whom voting would be a protest vote too, sich as UKIP and the Raving Monster Loonies or whatever they are called, but I'm not ashamed to stand up and be counted as someone who would vote BNP - without supporting many of their policies though. They are not a credible force for government in any case.

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MikeP - 3-Jan-11 21:07 

Why are all the workers in our local supermarkets, petrol stations, parking control, virtually every job for a manual labourer done by immigrants?

I accuse these firms/organizations of racism: economic racism.

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Who are the Racists - 2-Jan-11 11:01 

Judge,

we do produce our own fuel but successive short-sighted governments have not planned for storing it. The French do have enough storage and we sell much of our natural gas to them in the summer , when the gas is cheap. In the winter , when we need it and wholesale prices are high, they sell it back to us at a large profit.

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Kit - 28-Dec-10 19:01 

Bagpuss, if you said black people or immigrants are work shy you would be accused of racism but these days you can say anything you like about the British and English. Take a look at figures based on the last census and you will see that more white people are in paid work than other ethnic groups.

http://www.poverty.org.uk/47/index.shtml?2

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anon - 19-Dec-10 22:34 

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