Speeding fines, yet another one!

TOO LAZY TO CATCH THE REAL CROOKS

Would you like me to drive past you house at 36mph ? dont speed you dont get FINES !

You need to get yourself a good lawyer - http://www.motoringlawyerdirect.com

please can they come and check for speeders on my road - I'm really fed up with struggling to cross the road without being run down !

Valid points congo - and I can confirm personally the one about tailgaiting police cars !! (Passenger with mobile phone camera and a call to HQ resulted in very apologetic inspector ringing me back, and giving me his direct line should I ever come accross this officer or should it ever happen again !)
Nobody is perfect - there are idiot drivers and idiot police / talivan, but as you say in minority (000's of talivan throughout the country and very few photos of them doing it wrong). If you see something like this, take a photo, make a call or write a letter demanding answers.
There will always be genuine reason for complaints, but at the moment they are drowned out by those who wont accept they were wrong.

Darren

I agree the majority of covert speed enforcement is usually carried out by the Police however you may be surprised how many so-called 'Safety Camera Partnerships' park their vans conveniently screened by bus shelters, bushes and so on often in areas where it is a change of speed limit or decent overtaking spot that is the 'trap' not necessarily a school or other vulnerable site.

The Police themselves are not, on occasion, above indulging in questionable methods as regards speeding, I refer of course to the notorious practice of 'goading' a driver to drive faster by tailgating or other tactics. Rare I admit but nevertheless it does happen.

Like you I have little sympathy with those who are caught through inattention or laziness.

Congo
I think it pertinent to bear in mind that such 'low profile' or hidden cameras are used in places such as villages and around schools - i.e. in areas of high risk. With that in mind the driver should have adjusted speed anyway. Even if all safety cameras were removed you would still have these same 'hidden' sites - these are manned by Police only, generally in response to complaints from locals.
By no means am I an appologist for speed camera fraudsters who have us believe (and pay for the twisted logic) that "Speed (and only speed) Kills" . But i'm bored to the back teeth listening to those who were caught complain how safe they are but still managed to get caught !

Simple fact of the matter is that Cameras are a hazard - safe driving ensures you avoid hazards !
"Ohh I didn't see it - before I drove through at speed - i'll try harder next time" I'm sure is a lot easier to say than "Sorry I didn't see him/her before I drove OVER him at speed "

Darren

I believe your argument is broadly correct in that the majority of drivers who are caught speeding have not been sufficently alert. Fixed speed cameras i.e 'Gatso', 'Truvelo' and the 'Specs' average speed cameras are usually (but not always) highlighted and signed. I remember a traffic policeman telling me he nearly always stopped motorists who were speeding not because they were speeding but because they were too dozy or preoccupied to notice noticed his orange and white Range Rover festooned with lights and the word 'Police' plastered all over it sitting behind them or parked on a 'pig perch' on a motorway.!

However I say 'broadly correct', because you should be aware of many situations where mobile speed detection is undertaken covertly. i.e. camoflaged speed vans, radar gun operators hiding behind bus shelters, 'Vascar' in unmarked police cars and so forth.

Have a look at this lot: http://www.ukspeedtraps.co.uk/lineup.htm

No offence intended to all those staring at a fine - but have you actually considered why you consider yourself safe drivers ?

If you were UNABLE to SLOW DOWN in time to prevent getting caught on camera - a camera that is either painted flourescent yellow or being help by a six foot police officer WEARING flourescent yellow - How exactly does you safety concious mind convince itself that you will be able to STOP in time to prevent the DEATH of a pedestrian wearing DARK clothing ?

Had you possessed the standard of driving that you believe yourselfs to have - your dilligent driving would have identified the cameras beforehand and you would have adjuted your speed PRIOR to passing them.

to put it another way - IF YOU GET CAUGHT DOING IT, YOU PROVED YOU ARE INCAPABLE OF DOING SAFELY !

I just got a letter today with a fine and 3 points. I remember where it happened, they we're parked next to roadworks blockin half the road, so 1 lane basicly, and I was head to head with another car and he flashed to let me go, n as I approched I sped up to get past quicker cos he seemed in a rush so being nice, I hurried, n BAM. got done, pisses me off. 38 in a 30. gess in the end tehres nothin ya can do tbh. hope it all goes well for ya

The dear lady has just bought a new sat-nav, and we went through London this morning, this new "Binatone" sat-nav beeps when approaching a fixed camera, (I don't generally speed myself but got caught out by one of these cameras once),

Going out of London, and up the M1, I was amazed about the number of cameras there are, normally you wouldn't notice them, but when this little device starts beeping, you soon spot them, a very good investment. (£60-00)

I"ve just had a tin of grants beef curry for my supper. Fl**pin awful it was, hardly any meat, and the sauce did not taste like curry at all. In future im sticking to JS beef curry in a tin.

I"ve just had a tin of grants beef curry for my supper. Fl**pin awful it was, hardly any meat, and the sauce did not taste like curry at all. In future im sticking to JS beef curry in a tin.