No sympathy for greedy bankers any more
You can't open a newspaper or turn on the TV these days without fnding a story about some investment bank or other that has gone to the wall. Companies left, right and centre are announcing job cuts and the phrase "credit crunch" seems to be on everyones lips.
I didn't really have much of an opinion on the whole global financial crisis. Understandably my business was affected financially but I'm still making enough of a living to survive and that's all that really mattered to me. Some aspects of the situation have temporarily benefited me, and I'm sure those same conditions have put some people out of pocket. I know a few people who are very worried about the situation and others who have definitely lost money. Still, we soldier on and make the best of what we've got. We hope (maybe pray) that those in command of our country make the right decisions and steer us on the path to recovery. Can we do anything else?
What about the people who work for the big investment banks in the city of London though? They're on the cutting edge of all this and working in what must be a high stress environment. Each day they come into work and find they still have a job is a bonus. You've got to have some sympathy for them haven't you?
I've been in line for redundancy a few times myself so I know exactly what it's like. I was actually made redundant in the middle of the last recession in the early nineties. I wasn't overly concerned at the time; being young, having no responsibilities and some marketable skills meant finding another job was relatively easy. No doubt some of the men and women working in the city may find securing employment a bit trickier this time round. I may have had some sympathy for these people yesterday but not today.
Spending £20 on some Sushi or Dim Sum...
I read an article in which the city bankers gave an insight as to what it was like working there at the moment and how 'tough' they were finding things. When I read the bit (written by a city employee of over a decade) that said "People are buying lunch for £5 in the cafeteria rather then spending £20 on some Sushi or Dim Sum outside"... well I'm afraid any compassion I might have felt for these guys dried up right there and then!
In the first instance, who goes out at lunchtime and blows £20 on a whim? I'm sorry, but someone who used could be so extravagant on a daily basis before the financial crisis will get only my contempt. Even £5 spent spent in the cafeteria could be considered unncessary as I could quite easily (and often do) make this last a whole week!
A monthly team lunch at a nice restaurant is one thing, but pointless daily extravegance for the sake of it is another matter. I wonder if such carelessness with money is perhaps the root cause all these problems and perhaps amore meagre salary would teach these people the value of money. As the saying goes "you reap what you sow" - so maybe you lot are all getting what you deserve!
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The British Government have announced a new 2.5 billion bank levy!!!! What do the paragons of virtue (the bankers) who tipped the whole world into recession say???? The costs of this levy WILL be passed onto customers
wildernessvoice - 23-Oct-10 22:03
The chief executive of Goldman Sachs, which has attracted widespread media attention over the size of its staff bonuses, believes banks serve a social purpose and are doing "God's work."
Why I am an Atheist - 27-Mar-10 08:19
$100. The farmer agreed to deliver the donkey the next day. The next day
the farmer drove up and said, "Sorry Chuck, but I have some bad news.
The donkey died.'"
Chuck replied, "Well then, just give me my money back." The farmer
said,"Can't do that. I went and spent it already." Chuck said, "OK,
then, just bring me the dead donkey." The farmer asked, "What ya gonna
do with a dead donkey?" Chuck said, "I'm going to raffle him off." The
farmer said, "You can't raffle off a dead donkey!" Chuck said, "Sure I
can. Watch me. I just won't tell anybody he's dead."
A month later, the farmer met up with Chuck and asked, "What happened
with that dead donkey?
"Chuck said, "I raffled him off. I sold 500 tickets at two dollars
apiece and made a profit of $998.00." The farmer said, "Didn't anyone
complain?"
Chuck said, "Just the guy who won. So I gave him his two dollars back."
Chuck now works for Morgan Stanley.
Now we all know why the government has to keep bailing out the banks.
Gainsborough lad. - 26-Nov-09 23:06
*I hate Idiots 26-Sep-2009 12:24"
I also don't have any time for idiots, but you need to do a little thinking before you accuse others.
70% of the UK's business may be with the rest of the world - if you say so -I haven't checked the figure the figure sounds plausible.
It's not all imports, there a lot of exports too, many of which are what is known as invisible exports, and these become less expensive and thus more competitive as sterling devalues, so there is a benefit in the form of a trade-off. Naturally there is a so-called 'happy medium' and the UK economy is probably not at that point, but controlled comparative weakness of a currency, specially if you are a nett exporter, is not a bad thing.
Just watch the standard of living in this country fall significantly over the next few years as the Government has to tax us all for its failings.
The problem is in this country. Just watch prices rise and rise over the next few years. The only thing that will fall is house-prices. Oh, and incompetent governments too.
I hate Idiots - 26-Sep-09 12:24
Hopefully this may eventually right itself somewhat when countries in the eurozone realise that they are losing squillions of holidaymakers to non-euro countries like Turkey and Tunisia.
grumpyoldwoman - 26-Sep-09 09:38
Everyone in the country is now earning 30% less than they did last year ..... against the Euro. This is only fully relevant if you are purchasing in, or spending, Euros, or other currencies against which sterling has fallen. It's doing quite well against the (now defunct) Zimbabwe Dollar, for example.
If you only live in, and spend, Sterling, then the impact it has on you is that some imports are more expensive but this will ultimately be offset against healthier exports, which become cheaper, resulting in a stronger economy. That's the theory. In practice of course with the bunch of clowns and thieves who are running the UK economy it won't work that way, but I just felt it appropriate to restore a little balance to the argument.
Did I and my fellow workers get a pay rise this year? Or even last year? No. So I reckon I am down 40% in value on my salary. I am just as productive as I ever was. I work in the international arena. I should be raking it in. No b'tards like the banker have stolen my income.
And this year I got a bonus = £360 after a long ahrd year's work whether I made every effort. That's 18 bankers' lunches, without booze.
I have been robbed everywhichway. My house has lost over £100,000 in value in the past 18 months.
I will not be able to afford to retire in Spain as I hoped. Instead I have to live in country which has been ripped off by its bankers.
A Mightily Disappointed Citize - 26-Sep-09 08:16
Visitation from Hell - 24-Sep-09 20:56
All day making long distance phone calls
Now you might find his house name rather funny
The house he can afford with all his money
He has decided to call "The Banker's Walls"
The Warring Banker - 22-Sep-09 11:21
Pound is once again down on the Euro. The value of our wages and salaries are heading for disaster.
It's high time we prosecuted Fred the Shroud from the Turin Bankers of Lombard Street!
Do Not Forsake Me Oh My Darlin - 15-Sep-09 22:09
"Prime Minister Gordon Brown says he is "appalled" that some financial firms are continuing - or even extending - their bonus culture. In a BBC interview to mark a year since the collapse of Lehman Brothers, he said global action was needed to sort out "unfinished business" at banks.
Cleaning up the sector, including global regulation was needed, he added. "
ERrrr.. no sh*t!
The banking industry has hit back at calls from the Tory party to clamp down further on big bonuses in banks. Shadow chancellor George Osborne said handing out large pay awards was "unacceptable" for any bank which was backed by state guarantees. The British Bankers Association (BBA) said pay rules were already "more stringent" than in any other country.
The Financial Services Authority (FSA) said it was not a "moral regulator" and could only act using the powers it had. Angela Knight, chief executive of the BBA, said the industry only paid bonuses "according to the requirements placed upon it by the authorities".
" Of course you have to take risks, but sensible, proper, practical risks"
.. what?
Come on, they f***ed up big time recently, why can't they take some of the blame?
shoot the lot of them - 16-Aug-09 03:04
Political systems exist to promote liars to the cushy jobs they desire. For the rest of us we are but here to serve that system, and accept the unreality of it all.
You ask why is this the case? Answer God made it that way. If you believe that then Lord help us all.
Our Father who art in Heaven
Give us Hell today on Earth.
Give us today our daily flogging.
Lead us not into thinking about who or what we are.
Watch our backs lest we are stabbed
Thy Will be done.
Omen
The God of Mammon - 20-Jul-09 07:52
This whole insane edifice of Government lunacy, bankers conniving and officialdom "away with the fairies" reminds me of the Hair Bear Bunch, only it's come to life! (ooh ooh Mr Peebley!) No, really this is too serious to laugh at. Why? In a word, Bailouts. So many billions, an amount of money equivalent to all the tax collected for a whole year from every source - as debt. (Labour have got to go.)
Oh and any bankers facing prosecution? Well it's wait and see if the Class action in the US against RBS proceeds. Let's hope so.
Banker, Go To Jail! - 14-Jul-09 00:41
There is an American cause and angle to this.
Less than average Josephine - 30-Jun-09 23:27
Absolutely disgusting
Take my case, for instance, I need to maintain an appartment in the city otherwise my daily commute would necessitate a 30 minute train journey and a short taxi ride to my country home. I would need to undertake this at least 3 or 4 times a week (I no longer work on Mondays as I have found that these are often bank holidays anyway and often on a Friday I like to play a round or two at my local golf club - Saturdays can be quite busy!
It's not all champagne and caviar in the banking profession. Sometimes we have plain prawn sandwiches and cheap plonk! Only last week I had 3 meetings in one day and almost missed my lunchtime reservation. Then there is the tricky share holders meeting every year. Last time profits were a bit off and they wanted to cut back on the bonus. Well out of order if you ask me!
The life of a banker is not as easy as you people seem to think. If it weren't for the bonus and the 'business' trips to Aspen, Monte Carlo, Aruba and Bali every year I would pack it all in. Who would get us out of the present financial crisis then? Those ignorant members of the public need to ask themselves this question next time they criticise my well earned bonus.





