Foreign cars dodging road tax
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I don't know about you but I am growing sick of the number of foreign registered vehicles on UK roads. I teach English as a Foreign Language and many of my students have told me that they have Polish, German, Latvian registered registrations because it is cheaper to pay road tax there. Seven years ago I moved to Germany where I stayed for four years. You may or may not have noticed that German number plates have two discs in the middle after the letters which indicate their town. The police can scan these discs with a gun and find out instantly whether the car is taxed, MOT'd and insured. Needless to say foreign vehicles are routinely stopped and notices are always served to re-register the car. Obviously as a law-abiding citizen I did this as it was German roads I was using and not British ones, so it was only right that I contributed money to their upkeep. |
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However the Germans' tougher, meaner neighbour Austria have a completely dodge-free system and we, as good Europeans should borrow it from them. Upon arrival in Austria all foreign vehicle must purchase a Vignette which is a temporary road tax sticker. Up to 100km away from the border in Germany there are places to buy this dotted along the motorways and you can buy it on the border itself too. It costs about 15 EUR for 10 days and is used so that private and commercial vehicles contribute to the roads that they are using - which is especially wise as most foreign vehicles in Austria are not-resident, they're simply passing through on the long drive between Istanbula and Paris or London. |
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There are very clear picture instructions telling you specifically where to place it on the windscreen so that police cameras can pick it up. If it is wrongly displayed you have to pay a hefty fine and if your car doesn't have one, the police can and will impound your car. They don't mess about in Austria! You either do it their organised and efficient way or you pay the consequences. There are no grey areas. One day after feeling personally aggrieved with a UK-Road tax dodger I went to police and asked what could be done about it as I knew that the car in question had been in this country for over two years. I was told that foreign vehicles may remain foreign registered for up to six months legally. I naturally explained that this car had exceeded this limit and then some. The police officer said that it must be an uninterrupted six months - yes you guessed it! That means if they take the car on a day trip to Calais or Dublin and then bring it back the whole thing starts again. This is completely outrageous and sadly completely British - disorganised, vague and wishy-washy. The police officer also told me that it wasn't a police matter unless the vehicle in question was breaking a law. She advised me to tell a traffic warden but the problem with this is that in Kirkcaldy where I live, traffic wardens only patrol the town centre and only work between Monday - Friday 9am till 5pm. Incredible on the downside it means that any Polish person that works in a factory with a car park and lives outside the town centre can get away completely Scot-free. On the plus side though, it means now that I can utterly ignore all maximum 20 minute parking signs after 5pm and all day on Saturday and Sunday! If you can't beat them, join them I say! By: Jimmy Beaver |
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Comments from visitors
I am from the UK and living in Austria. Here you must register your car within a month of claiming residency(which is a legal requirement), so you must insure the vehicle in the country that it is being used on a primary basis.
Not all countries are the same. As a tourist you can go wherever you want for whatever amount of time. As soon as your primary residence changes, then you should follow the law, and not complain how expensive it is or risk that your insurance could be invalid.
Another cold Brit - 4-Apr-11 16:02
The problem: I cannot put my car on UK numbers, as the real owner is leasing company abroad and I must pay all lease amount first. I have to pay lease 3 years more from today.
I would pay UK road tax, but it is not possible for cars registered abroad.
It's rediculous!
Hope my situation is clear?
IF YOU WANT US TOP PAY UK ROAD TAX - PLEASE MAKE IT POSSIBLE FIRST !!!!
To register car in UK and put UK numbers - it is very serious decision, suitable only if person have choosen UK as his home country for a long tome or forever.
But many of EU citizens here for some 2-3 years, and we take our cars to make our job and living in UK good, and after some time we, EU citizens, go home and take our car from UK.
-- Is this situation clear enough ???
If you're growing sick - it is not because of EU citizens - but because of UK rules and legislation !!!
When you, BRITISH PEOPLE, will start at least to try to understand and respect other people lives and needs without agression?
That's wrong, in Europe, in a lot of countries (Slovakia, Croatia, Slovenia, Hungary, Austria etc.) Vignette is NOT equivalent with road tax. In these countries everybody must pay if they want to use motorway. ONLY if you want to go on the motorway. If you are a resident, you pay road tax, and also you MUST buy Vignette!!! I know in the UK and in Germany it's different, motorways are free to use...
Bottle opener1212 - 16-Dec-10 05:39
MOT is MUCH more strict in some EU countries than in the UK and the insurance often covers MUCH more than standard car insurance in the UK (unlimited number of drivers etc.). I do not see any reason why DVLA refuse collecting money from people willing to pay.
I used to work in insurance & check people's details for a VERY large insurance company. Let's just say the Brits fiddle things JUST as much as the foreigners (all you women driving on hubby's "2nd car", the kid's driving their own car as "mum/dad's 2nd car" as "occasional drivers", & the accidents "not your fault" until we discovered that meant the "lights changed too quick"...).
Maybe we should all pay more attention to our OWN driving (Poles, Croatians etc have FAR MORE stringent driving tests, inc first aid!!!) and the condition of our OWN cars (how many with bald tyres, squeaky brakes, dodgy lights), then when we're sure we're perfect (IAD instructor's license), then complain about others?
I am as frustrated as you are and some of this may have been said by others, I don't have time to go through it all. As a serving traffic cop, I can assure you it is a police matter. You have clearly been fobbed off by a cop who doesn't really know what they are on about. In fairness though it is unreasonable to expect all cops to be able to quote all the hundreds of laws that are current. Anyway, as soon as a foreign national takes up residence in this country they must register their vehicle with the DVLA, who will give it a UK registration mark and charge road tax. A foreigner who comes to the UK, intending to live here from then on, for any period of time, has taken up residency. They must make immediate steps to register their car here and pay road tax. The 6 month rule is for holiday makers or people visiting their friends or family here. A few ski11ed questions at the road side will soon sus out what is going on. (Another good reason to get rid of those cameras and get a few more coppers instead. The copper then fills out a simple form and sends it off to DVLA to report the driver / vehicle. All the results I have had back suggest that DVLA then prosecute, are generally sucessfull and claim back tax as well as a decent fine to the driver. Hope this helps a bit!
I understand your frustration and to be honest I agree with you that this system is wrong. However before you write an article, you could have just read around about it:
1. In Austria you ONLY need to buy the sticker when you are using the Motorways! If your car will never enter to any of their motorways (but using only the single carriage ways - double carriage ways) you do not have to buy the motorway sticker. (Just like in Hungary or Slovakia or Czech Republic) So their sticker is not some kind of different version of Road tax in the UK. They differentiate between normal road usage and motorway usage. The second one needs the sticker.
2. Using foreign registered cars in the UK:
European Union vehicles
EU vehicles brought into the UK can be used for six months in any 12-month period. You do not need to register the vehicle in the UK as long as you can show that the vehicle complies with the registration and tax requirements of its home country. It’s the responsibility of the driver to prove how long the vehicle has been in the country. Producing ferry tickets can do this.
If the keeper of the vehicle becomes resident in the UK, the vehicle must be immediately registered and taxed in the UK.
UK residents are not allowed to use a foreign registered vehicle on UK roads. The exception is when a UK resident:
is employed or self-employed in another EU member state
uses a EU registered company car temporarily in the UK for business purposes
Certain vehicles will be required to display a temporary 'Q' plate. Temporary visitor status isn't appropriate to these vehicles.
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/BuyingAndSellingAVehicle/ImportingAndExportingAVehicle
All it takes some research and you have a better picture. But as I said I agree this system is flawed as at the moment police can not determine how long these foreign cars are in the UK.
Thankfully though there may just be a glimmer of light at the end of the tunnel as the EU and the EURO are beginning to crumple and with a bit of luck the whole Edifice known as the EC will collapse and disappear without trace.
I want the foreigners to get pumped in the same way we do so I say that they should get stopped at the ports and turned over for £60 or £70 the same way we do when we go to their patch, we pay road tax here AND over there and they only pay a much lower road tax there, I have a relative in belgium working and they say the years road tax for a rangerover or landrover sized vehicle is £60 for a WHOLE YEAR
pissedofflorry - 6-Jun-10 20:47





