What future has Britain now then?

Who thinks our chief executives and bankers are patriotic in this time of crisis, willing to sacrifice their wealth for the sake of the nation. This nation is at economic war with the Far East. Wake up to this new reality. The Far Eastern nations will sink this country far faster than any U-Boat.

It is in the national interest than bankers share the pain by cutting their remunueration.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15827683

Please don't kid me with this kind of bogus nonsense

"If we want great people to come and work in the UK, given it's a global talent pool, we've got to be prepared to pay the amount of money that those executives can get elsewhere in the world."

Altruistic leaders would pass up this gain.

The answer could be a good one, if we all started to buy British. o.k so you are saying we don't make anything anymore, but you will find that we do if you all stop going to Primark etc. and shop around, perhaps pay a little more. Most of the people I speak to say they are not bothered where it is made, they want the cheapest. So we have ourselves to blame by not looking to the future and living for today. Like I have said before, sell Britain to the Chinese. Wait a minute, look at the advantages. Only one child per couple which would mean less congestion on the roads (not so many on the school run, a bit rough on the 4x4 sales people though) Not so many running about ASDA etc. Great! We would all be on bikes because our new owners need the petrol for their country. The powers that be only have theirselves to blame for exploiting third world countries to make more profit.

Sorry to hear that Mikey, I have friends and relatives that have served in all of the wars, some who have passed with old age or were KIA in WW2 and others who served in Korea, Iraq, Afghanistan,Bosnia, various incidents in Africa in the 70's 80s 90s and 2000s as well as places that I care not to mention.
I have friends who have seen bad things that left them disturbed and even seeing things/having panic attacks/getting drunk(burnt/charred people, in a hundred pieces etc) I also have connections with some people who have been injured, one who stepped on a leftover mine from the 80s in Afghan, now minus vision on one side, half a leg, some fingers and his driving licence...

Mate, I'd love too do it myself but I lost my right leg in Afghanistan in August 2009. I can do most jobs but up and down the loft can become sore and tiring, never mind all the humping of wood through the hatch.

I'm willing to give a hand and pay someone at the same time.

Not much am afraid. I intend to have my loft floored for more space. The other day, I phoned three companies that advertise in the local paper.

I left messages on answering machines and called mobiles but no answer. I spoke with one on the phone. He stated that he had to pass my home to collect two doors from the next village, he would call me 30 mins before arriving.

As I write this, not one of the three companies has had the deceny to call. You can't get a decent construction worker in this country if you waved a fist full of fifty Pound notes in their face.

All the 'proper' ski11ed tradesmen have vanished to Australia, Canada amd France and we are left with the pretend workers, strutting around with flourescent coats, tools hanging from their hip.

'Loft Space' in Worksop is one Company that advertise and never bother to call you back. If you don't want the work then call me and tell me. Don't say you will visit and don't bother, leaving me sat in waiting upon you.

Are there any European workers in the Worksop area that may be interested in a job? If so, could you please reply to this quest. Cash awaits. Kind regards, Mikey.

I have worked and lived all my life in this country, I have seen some horrific things happen to good friends when I served in the armed forces, I think that their sacrifices and those of others were misguided loyalty to a corrupt system which has allowed the rich and powerful to tailor our system of govt to their own purpose. We havent managed to shake off this corrupt system becaue we keep on believing that someday we will be in the money too.
The rich always say money isnt everything but how do the rest of us know when we keep getting poorer, the country is morally corrupt because the govt isnt there to serve the country only the party and its friends interests. The media manipulates the peoples opinion to suit its purpose because its in the interests of the millionaire owners. Crime figures are manipulated to make things look better and jobless figures are fixed by careful wording, (THOSE UNEMPLOYED AND CLAIMING BENEFIT) (THERE ARE MORE GETTING ALLOWANCES THAN ARE GETTING BENEFITS) the opposition govt dont challenge this because they hope to use the same tricks when they are in power, I
mmigration is getting worse and the govt cannot call you a racist or bigot anymore because its eastern europeans who are christian and white but employers love them because they work unsociable hours for minimum pay. Brits work the longest hours in europe and its time we fell in line with the rest of europe and limit it to 48 hours, lets see what happens if that happens (it wont, too many rich employers will kill that by making party donations with strings)
If I cannot feed and clothe my family legally because the system is designed to make the rich even richer at my expense then I will have to do it illegally and lets see what happens then

My mother was not the shapest knife in the drawer, but she was right about one thing. She always used to tell me in the late 60s, that the first sign of the fall of the roman empire was ushered in by permissiveness & drug abuse on a grand scale. Exactly what has happened in our country over the last 40 years. I laughed at her then, but now I know that she was right.

The problem is "Floating Weeds". Everywhere I go in this country, everyone I meet they are nothing but compliant "Floating Weeds". These Weeds offer nothing to society. They always say "Yes". They never challenge so-called authority. They accept everything. Their "democratic" vote drowns out the Truth.

This septic isle This England run by junkies and drug dealers. This pisspot of a nation. This disgusting waste of space. This land of zero opportunity. This desert. This Turdistan. This land of garbage. This emptiness. This vast wasteland.

Britain I say has moved towards the dark stone days, years ago you could leave your door open and even the wind that past bye would not even take your stuff away, people would have stall's outside and there would be home made cakes and all, now our living lives are being torn apart and all our dreams and hopes are stolen away, it is hard to move forward when there is to many brick walls to knock down, Britain needs shaking up and really quick, there is plenty of people and some even clever ones that sit back and moan do nothing, time to stand and make your point stand out, we should all rise as one and combat the evil greed.

We all kinda see what is happening to our country - to much talk never solved anything, action speaks louder than words ! Get a move on Britain, we are proud to be British so stop f-king the sh-t a" and sort it out will ya.

Have you ever wondered why you are so poor, why you are heading to absolute penury in your old age? Have you ever wondered why there is such a huge underclass in this country, such a huge disparity between rich and poor why it is not a rich commonwealth?

The answer lies in the institutions which run this country, the so-called Establishment. The Government and in particular the large multinational corporations and banks who run this country are like those in third-world countries - corrupt to the core.

Thiunk of the senior managment in such organisations, those who receive huge sums in salaries and bonuses, do they ever really justify these? Think of these slaraies and bonuses not as real rewards for the work done but think of them nothing less than "Bribes".

I am thinking of the kind of Briabes that have to be paid to the officials and ministers in third world, Middle Eastern and African countries, which if they are not paid, you may not trade or have any dealings with them. Such systems impovervish the nations in which they are found. Think of a country like Nigeria where bakshish is demanded wherever you go.

These kind of salaries and bonuses are wholly unjustified, unethical, not true value for money for the services rendered. Such bribes are endemic in the reward systems operated by such companies.

These people are robbing their companies and nations of their wealth. They are robbimg the investors and pensioners. They are robbing their workers at large. Think of them as nothing but robber barons, medieval in nature. Think of King John. Think of the need to hava a new Magna Carta, a new charter to sweep this country clean of this corruption.

If this country is not willing to face this truth then like the MPs expenses scandal, this scandal will last for centuries, unchecked.

Are you sailing through life in steerage class, like me and most of our fellow human beings?

Have you paid far too much for your ticket like I have? Do you think you have not received real value in turn for all the effort you have personally put in?

Life sucks down here in steerage class. Have you noticed when the ship sinks there aren't enough lifeboats for us all? The gates to the upper decks are all locked to us, and down we will all go with the ship.

When the British economy hit the iceberg of the banking crisis who got the lifeboats? Bankers of course!

Down we are going. The ship has up-ended The waters around us are deeep and cold. Down down down!

Miss big, a closer look at the nuclear club, we have the USSR with a permanent hotline to the USA, China, France, Israel, and us, the UK, more recently India and Pakistan have joined, who are mostly only a threat to each other.
Now we understand North Korea and Iran are soon joining, they are a bit of a threat, although Iran has never invaded another country, our defences are nuclear submarines with undersea launched missiles, we have four of them, one is always at sea, soon more and more little countries will be joining this club, whats to say that one of them could detect and destroy one of our subs, it would be sods law then that another could malfunction and the remainder would be undergoing planned maintainance, only mad Gordan wants to get rid of one, he really is some sort of Twxx isnt he, the money saved? would just go to more and more one parent families, the only thriving industry left in this country.

And I suppose you the stupid braindead idiot will want to nuke them before they send us their illegal immigrants? I am very concerned about having to live in a country shared will fools like yourself.

I am very concerned over the government cutting our naval nuclear capability by 25%. There is all of those nasty peoples with their nasty dictators out there who want to get us because we are so much better than them. We need to be protected from them.

National MAritime Museum Exihibit

Shipping companies involved in the emigrant trade, such as Cunard and White Star, made their biggest profits from large numbers of steerage or third class passengers who were packed into dormitories.

Publicity was often focused on First Class as the liners developed and became more luxurious. However, emigrant passengers provided the bread-and-butter profits for the shipping companies.

From Book

A historical dictionary of the U.S. merchant marine and shipping industry

In spite of the glamour and luxury of first-class travel aboard the transatlantic liners, the real profits for steamship companies came from the persons in steerage class.

ca ira, I am very surprised and interested 1st and 2nd class passengers made Little profit for the Titanic. I wonder if you could please tell me the source of this Information? It sounds like an interesting book.

Today I learned a very important fact. When liners like The Titanic were crossing the Atlantic they had three classes of passenger

1st Class = Aristocratic/Millionaire
2nd Class = Middle class
3rd Class/Steerage = Peasant from Eastern Europe/Working class

Amazingly enough transporting the 1st and 2nd Class passengers only made but very little profit for the company. By far the largest and overwhelming profit derived from transporting the Steerage class. I have not heard of a stronger argument and econmic reason for Socialism before. This clinches the argument. Let's us rid our country and nation of its upper classes. They are but parasites on the sea of the wealth of our nation.

Ah! ça ira, ça ira, ça ira
les aristocrates à la lanterne!
Ah! ça ira, ça ira, ça ira
les aristocrates on les pendra!
Si on n’ les pend pas
On les rompra
Si on n’ les rompt pas
On les brûlera.
Ah! ça ira, ça ira, ça ira
les aristocrates à la lanterne!

I ask whether Britain is fit even to join the ranks of the third-world, it is slipping so fast down the economic ladder.

Who needs universities anymore if all the jobs graduates from can get are only delivering pizzas?

We have no crafts in this country. Morocco far surpasses us in "mediaeval skills".

Our agricultural land is so poor that we can't even feed our over-burdening population from our sources.

Our seas are all fished out.

Our energy sources are all spent.

We have insufficient housing for all the immigrants coming.

People are not dying off fast enough, though that might change soon.

All of our political parties are dead-beat. None of them have any real imagination.

There is so much inequality in Britain that we will never fully bond together as a people and nation to face the economic situation the country has found itself in.

All this is the result of the usurious monetary system Margaret Thatcher left the nation with.

I loathe Britain and all who sail with her.

I am currently abroad. I am ashamed to be British. I feel so poor. Foreigners have so much more than us. I work harder and longer hours for less than they. Their pensions will be higher than mine. They have larger properties, can afford longer holidays. All have holiday homes. My pay is so meagre compared with theirs.

I am ashamed of my country's history. 60 years ago we had a proud nation, a country which invented many things. We were a world betear. Our history for the last 60 years has been appalling. We have a had nation run by greedy and crooked politicians who have simply used the nation and siphoned off its wealth. And bankers who have sucked up the nations profits in their bonuses, and pay. These people have bled the nation dry.

What do we have? A sunken Britain, a Britain grown senile from its long history?

A Britain excluded from the mainstream evolution of the world,

A Britain excluded by it ridiculous attitude to Europe, and the Euro.

A Britain excluded from the Shenngen Visa system

A gauche, lefthand drive Britain.

A poor Britain. A Britain a hundred rungs down the ladder

I hate my fellow stupid Britons; they are so feeble minded.