Too many asylum seekers and refugees in the UK
So this is it the French have finally decided to succumb to closing the Sangatte camp, on the grounds that we in the UK accept half. Why? Have we not got enough British Citizens already? Now where can we place them? Government decision, in the oppositions constituency. What are we talking about Pawns in a chess set?
No, we are talking about taking 750 asylum seekers, and sticking them in between two surrounding villages of Bicester (Arncott and Piddington).
Bicester, to those who do not know it originally was a small market town in Oxfordshire, it has now grown with the economy to give good housing and good access to both London and Birmingham. Unlike our other towns in Oxfordshire, it has a very low ethnic minority count. It is not that we are racist, it is just that the surrounding towns and Cities have greater amenities to attend to peoples religions/beliefs. We do have the Central Army Ordinance Depot, on our outskirts where army personnel live, one of these villages being Arncott.
Now as a town, there has always been a restlessness between the locals and the army personnel who also want to use the public houses within the town centre, often causing the local police and the military police to sort out these disturbances. So now lets put 750 Kurds, Albanians, Iraqis, etc. in a volatile environment where there are not many British Citizens and young lads from the local army barracks, what are we looking at? I dread to think.
They almost always end up doubling in size.
The troubling thing is that like all detention centres, prisons, etc. we all know that when they are built they are supposed to house a certain amount, the problem being that they almost always end up doubling in size. Sangatte was built for 700, it now has over 1,500. Arncott and Piddington between them house 700 people (Figure from the Sun 23/05/02), so what is it going to be like with 750 Illegal immigrants, possibly double that in the future.
Another thought, is when they were confined to one area with good amenities, for example Campsfield House and the detention centre in Luton, they are determined to damage it, most recent being the fire in Luton. When they have their freedom as they do in Sangatte they go round with knives attacking each others community, Afghans against the Iraqis.
Sangatte has turned from being a nice seaside village into being a war zone where people dare not leave their homes in the evening, is that how we want people in our villages to feel? Do we want our town to turn into a free for all between all the young people? Could Bicester retail shopping village be a place where you might go with a wallet/purse, but going home without it may become a common feature? Easy picking for free loaders coming to live at yours and my benefit.
Just remember next pay slip, how much tax you pay goes towards these guys who have fled not because of the trouble in their country, but because they are in trouble within the security forces of their own land.
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miserablemoaninggit - 4-Nov-11 20:30
I suppose you could now say that the number of asylum seekers has now gone down, that’s one way of fiddling the figures.
What idiots are running this country, my gerbil could do a better job, and in fact I have let him write this comment.
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Stalag 14's Gerbil - 4-Nov-11 18:31
I do concede though, and this is what I was referring to earlier, that the British have allowed some of their cultural norms to be eroded recently. The bus queue, for example, no longer exists in many places as people were cowed into believing that to defend this tradition was somehow "racist", as this was not what was done in "their" country.
However, there are countries where physical attack is a genuine reality if you don't follow their cultural norms - they could do with a little British tolerance.
Those among the British who still try to live by gentler virtues should have a little more confidence in themselves whereas those who are more brutish have too much confidence. This has been encouraged by the government who wanted to force "multi-culti" on people.
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You have made very negative statements about them and I was saying that I find them quite tolerant, compared with some races. It's one of the qualities that I like about them.
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Of course we are, but some of us have the courage to use the same user name consistently, and not hide behind 'anon' or continuously change identity when we think we are losing an argument, or to reinforce the same old argument by pretending to be different people, such as the two 'Freds' who condone cycling on the pavements.
Of course observations are subjective, as is anything to do with taste. I'm expressing my subjective opinions, with which you disagree, as is your perfect right.
What has tolerance got to do with this?
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Observations are subjective, very limited and informed by your prejudices and limitations ( as are mine of course).
There are over 60 million Brits. How meaningful can your observations be? I am not sure why you are so prejudiced against the British/ English as I find them rather more tolerant than many nations, although I think they have recently allowed themselves to lose a lot of what made them a bit different to other nations.
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Do you think anyone would invite me to a party!
"Of course you are now going to say "what difference does it make"? "
That's precisely right. I can observe what is wrong with the UK without my point of observation being relevant.
Hypothetically then, to use your analogy, let's say "I was born in Jo'burg but now I am a British citizen but I mostly reside in the US." I'll add this : One of my parents is Nigerian and the other is Moldovan.
Now you can fill in the stereotypes : I must be racist if I was born in Jo'burg - even if I am half black because one of my parents is Nigerian. That makes half of me a scammer or drug dealer. Residing in the US makes me shallow and superficial, as well as fat. Having a Molodovan parent means I must be a gangster, pimp, or benefit fraudster.
Meaningless isn't it? Not to mention bigoted.
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Now how can I do that if are too cowardly to say where you are from? Yeah, yeah I know - you are going to say there is what is on your passport, where you were born, where your parents are from - which one do I mean?
At a party, when people ask where you are from you must say something. As in, I was born in Jo'burg but now I am a British citizen but I mostly reside in the US. What's wrong with that?
Of course you are now going to say "what difference does it make"? No difference whatsoever on most subjects but, if you are trashing the British or English, then it is only fair to give them a chance to lob a ball back over the net.
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I am not in the least worried about what you call 'retaliatory criticism'. Go ahead.
Have a look at the average street scene in most English towns and you will see fat tattooed body-pierced chav scum in track suits stuffing their lardy faces with crap from fast food outlets. That's the ones you see, the rest are in their benefit provided homes on their council estates watching bilge on daytime TV.
Then go and find some Polish people, in fact most other Europeans, and look at them, and you might see what I mean about enriching the gene pool. If you can't see that, maybe you should go to Specsavers.
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Just another Brit bashing assertion from someone who is too worried about retaliatory criticism to ever admit where he comes from.
Try providing some evidence to back it up next time.
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Don't blame people from coming to the UK, blame a succession of spineless politicians who allowed it to happen and then did nothing about it.
As for your comments about the Poles, of course there are dishonest scumbags amongst them, as there are amongst any nation. You have more than your own share of homegrown pondlife, freeloaders, and fraudsters and maybe you should look at sorting out that before you spout off about the Poles who, in the majority, are contributors to society in many ways. They certainly enrich the gene pool in the UK!
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Your correct - time to kick these poles out & the rest of those freeloading scums , English jobs for English people .
And close our Borders fast !!!!
And the public should vote in a new team at no 10 , who are gonna close the Borders & get them out !
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I have been saying this for years.
I say to people don’t vote for any of them, put them out of a job, the country would still survive as the civil service run it and politicians are just mouthpieces.
Look what the last lot did, wrecked the country with their mass immigration policies, and the present lot are no better.
If you want to vote do so as a protest, vote for some Mickey Mouse candidate.
Asylum seekers my a*se, just a load of freeloaders, but I don’t blame them for coming here I blame the weak politicians, no guts.
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I'm not against migration for political safety. I think we, as well as other countries, have a responsibilty to help people. I do struggle with purely economic migration for financial gain from a welfare state to which they have not contributed.
The system needs an overhaul but as a nation we are too afraid of the criticism to actually do anything.
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