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Prison is a cushy number these days

What's the point in struggling day after day making ends meet, paying your taxes and being a law abiding citizen?  Well if current prison conditions are anything to go by, spending your life as an honest, upstanding squeaky clean Joe Public is definitely harder than doing time.

Prisons have become a soft option from what I understand.  They are more like cushy hotels than a place a place of punishment or rehabilitation.  I've heard reports that some of the more relaxed regimes have satellite television, video games and Internet access.  Prisoners can even get hold of drugs, mobile phones and sex whilst inside.  How can this be?  I don't even have satellite TV and I'm too scared to use my mobile because it costs an arm and a leg!  So much for the notion that "crime doesn't pay".  It may not pay, but it costs, and it costs the taxpayer dearly!

A games console

No wonder they don't want to leave...

There was another case where a dealer regularly broke INTO a Yorkshire prison to sell "stuff" to the prisoners, yet none of the inmates felt the need to escape the same way.  Doesn't that tell you something?  They've got it easy in there all right and so no wonder they don't want to leave.  Maybe that's why criminals re-offend, because there's no incentive not to.  If they get sent down it's back to that cushy number again paid for by you and me!

A spokesman for the Ministry of Justice tells us prison conditions are appropriate and that harsh regimes do not lead to rehabilitation or a reduced rate of re-offending.  Well, we don't care!  They've committed a crime so bloody punish them and stop putting them in these holiday camps where we are left to foot the bill.

We're told that there's a lack of staff and not enough prison officers to look after the growing numbers of inmates in our prisons.  Here's a novel idea for you.  How about you take away the nice things, the privileges etc. and then spend some of that money on more prison staff that can deal with criminals and treat them the way they SHOULD be treated!

Better still, why not have them do more work in the communities they violate.  I'm sure the victims would feel happier in the knowledge that they were paying for their crimes rather than having a relatively nice time in jail.

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Any inmate reading this gripe - support KEN he will open doors to get you out of prison & hopefully put you back into paid work !locking people up is not the answer - get them out & working our community needs re building fast get the UK back on track !

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UK move forward - 30-May-11 13:15 

TruthBtold, Who cares a few of them topped themselves? Saves the taxpayers money! Woohoo! You dreadful liability you.

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AJ - 24-Mar-11 16:11 

Mr Hicks - I know a top city lawyer & trust me when I tell you people get fitted up everyday !
The police are the ones to watch nowadays-rapes , thefts , hitting people with batons etc etc
Ken has a good idea for prisoners get them out & doing as much work in the local community as possible , fixing pot holes , painting schools , clearing rubbish of the streets etc etc .
Just because someone did a crime some 10-15 years ago dosent mean they are still criminals!
Just take a look at the Barry George case ."he will do- let's fit him up "

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The Jedi - 2-Mar-11 12:14 

I think you are right GL. But the usual case of a person being sent down for a crime they did not do usually means the person has previous form for the type of crime they were sent down for. An habitual burglar may be convicted of a burglary he did not actually commit, but, so what? Honest law abiding citizens are almost never convicted of crimes they did not commit. It is because hollywood screen writers use the "innocent convicted" storyline so often that gives people like one & only the licence to make these questionable claims.

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Mr Hicks - 4-Jan-11 11:17 

No, one and only, there are not lots of innocent people in prison. Tragically there will be a few isolated cases. However, the overwhelming majority are in there because they are nasty, wicked, immoral people and society needs to be protected from them.

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Mr Hicks - 3-Jan-11 20:25 

Prison ,well let me tell you lots of people in prison are innocent ,they have been fitted up by the police ,hey look how many people come out on appeal ?the police are the ones filling up prisons with their crap allegations and charges that they makeup!!

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one & only - 3-Jan-11 18:39 

The ford open prison riot perfectly illustrates the sheer wickedness of the criminal mindset. These people were given a degree of freedom in relatively good circumstances despite their crimes against society. What do they do? they riot and burn the place down!

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Mr Hicks - 1-Jan-11 20:19 

LISTEN ,alot of people in prison are good just on the wroung path...give them jobs and hope of a paid job and things will get better ...ken clarke is correct get them working and bring them hope for the future......locking people dosent work but helping your local community will....give them a path to follow ,

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THE TRUTH - 10-Dec-10 17:39 

Kamal & TruthBtold;
I'm sorry, are we supposed to feel sorry for the way criminals and wrongdoers are treated after they have caused so much upset, mental and physical torture to their victims.

I wonder how many direct cases of anguish, job losses, divorces, family break ups, depresion and suicides there are amongst the victims of crime? How many "significant others" have been murdered so that their surviving partners can never be with them again? How many people have worked and paid for their TV's and playstations and lived within the law all their lives, not just behaved themselves for 90 days, only to have their property stolen from them?

If prison is hard on criminals, good. If it could be harder that would be better. We need more justice for the victims who never asked to be another statistic and whose lives have been ruined by those you wish to pity.

Think on and re-set your moral compasses!

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Sandman - 11-Apr-10 14:48 

Why are you talking so much rubbish. Go to prison and try it. OK no don't, don't go to prison and lose your job, your house, contact with your family, and your liberty. Try this on for size. Live in your toilet for a week, with a friend. Here are the conditions. 1. You must eat, sleep, and deficate in the toilet. 2. You are permitted out of the toilet only 30 mins in the morning (which can be in the open air in your garden) 8.00-8.30am. 3. You must eat all your meals in the toilet with your friend (farts, bodily odours not to be masked). 4. You may leave the toilet and go into the living room for 45 mins 2.15 to 3.00pm. 5. Afterwards you must remain in your toilet eating supper, and not coming out until 8.00am to go into the garden for 30 mins.
OH I forgot you can have a TV in the toilet. If you behave for 90 days in these conditions you may be considered to have a Play Station 2 (if you can afford to buy one at over inflated prices). OH yeah you can also visit with you significant other 2 times per week for 1 hour, but you must be closely watched by CCTV and other persons. No intimate touching! OH and before I forget all those little luxuries you like in your fridge, they are off limits. It's a tuck-shop diet for you. Crisps and chocolate bars. Get used to tinned goods. OH But before I forget there is no tin opener. That is only available at 5pm when you collect your meal.

PS. FYI 60 people committed suicide in 2009 in your HMP Holiday Camps; 60 people in 2008; 92 in 2007, and 67 in 2006. Worst of all in 2007 one of those victims was under the age of 18.

Get your facts right about prison you have no clue!

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TruthBtold - 27-Mar-10 21:36 

shut up ,you all have no clue what u talking about, Have anyone one u been in jail? the answer is no. becouse if u. then u would know the reallty on the ground, u.k prison is the worlds dirtiest prison, harsh regime, torture, abuse and violence, u cant imagine, u.k prisons is only only place for banishment but also mental torture,

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kamal - 26-Feb-10 18:28 

Let's send them all to the Arena to be burned as Roman candles or eaten by wolves and lions. Arena fodder that's what they are.

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Slaughterer - 3-Jan-10 18:06 

Wrongdoers should be sent to prison for punishment, as a punishment.
How about getting them doing long hours of manual labour such as rock breaking or sorting through houshold waste. We wouldn't need so much heavy machinery if they did it by hand, (environmentally friendly), and they would be too tired to watch T.V or play computer games at the end of the day. All unpaid of course.

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Sandman - 3-Jan-10 15:51 

You know, everyone misses a point about Prison. People are not sent to prison FOR punishment, but AS punishment. The punishment in prison is the deprivation of your liberty. Anything else would be cruel and unusual, as the USAians put it.

So when you think of your person slopping out, or your prisoner sleeping and eating in the same room as their toilet, just consider if you would be prepared to do that for a week, let alone the 2, 5, 10, 20 years that some prisoners are expected to. And, lets have the punishment fit the crime - if no-one actually got hurt by what someone has done, why should they be put in the prison environment for doing it?

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BikerPaul - 7-Dec-09 17:39 

Ok, Ok, I know I put there when I should have put their. It is not worth anyones time to point it out to me!

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Hicks - 17-Sep-09 09:23 

grumpyoldwoman, I admit I stole N Noreens comment but it is such an insightfull one. I wonder if perhaps broadmoor are performing an experiment to see if they can keep there inmates calm by letting them vent there frustrations on people via the Internet rather than in real Life!

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Hicksead - 17-Sep-09 09:19 

Well Hicks, that's funny, Negative Noreen said exactly the same thing on the 9th Sept.! Watch out or she'll be after you for copying her comments.

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grumpyoldwoman - 17-Sep-09 08:02 

Is prison a cushy number these days?
It certainly is, They give MikeP unlimited Internet access don"t they?

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Hicks - 16-Sep-09 20:39 

Ok, ok, ok, I admit it, I left the "i" out of imagination. This is unforgivable I know.

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Mr Hicks - 11-Sep-09 12:17 

To my Extraordinarily persistent stalker, grumpyoldwoman,
Madam, I am not sulky stanley or any other of the persons you mentioned, Least of all the "fake grumpyoldwomans"(!!!!????).
I think perhaps you are letting your imagnation get the better of you.

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Mr Hicks - 11-Sep-09 12:14 

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