Britain is losing its Britishness
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Britain losing its 'Britishness' is a common topic that is much discussed nowadays.  I am from Southern Africa and have lived in the UK for seven years (due to a certain dictator).  While there are numerous cultural and social differences between our 2 societies, I am grateful to be able to live in the UK and contribute to society, although I will never consider myself completely in-sync with what British society is today.

The British people have a right to complain and lament their loss of Britishness (almost all the British people I know/associate with from all walks of society consider this an issue).  Not being British-born, I can't possibly feel the same way those born in Britain do but even so, I find the following situations rather perplexing:

Why does Britain bow and scrape before the 'Mighty Bush'

A boy with a union jack flag
  • why is there this mentality in football that if you want the job done right 'Johnny foreigner' will do it?  How can Arsenal versus Liverpool be considered an English affair, the game has basically been hijacked?
  • why are British businesses being taken over by foreign interests, either when in financial difficulties or because of aggressive foreign takeover policies?
  • why can't Christmas lights depict traditional Christian symbols?
  • why is it okay to have thousands of mosques in the UK, but blasphemy to put a couple of bricks together to build a church in Islamabad?
  • why does the UK not have a national day?
  • why are British music artists trying to copy sad American acts?
  • why does Britain/UK keep sending embarrassing acts to Eurovision?
  • why does Britain bow and scrape before the 'Mighty Bush'?
  • why is Britain having to deal with the consequences of ethnic/cultural vendettas on its streets that primarily do not arise from the direct actions of the British-born folk?

There is a distinct lack of patriotism in this country (some may say with good reason).  You can't even compare with how fiercely patriotic American, Australians, South Africans, Scandinavian countries, and many Eastern-European countries are.  It's a little misguided (and too little to late) when the flags come out for 'big' games or when the Queen is out and about.

Is this country still suffering from a guilt complex from colonialism?  I would like to hear the opinions of British folk who a) feel very strongly about this or b) don't consider this an issue at all.

By: Dave


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Surely it works both ways and if the case may be..

I'd like to stay in Spain, with a preference to be near a golden sandy beach with locals selling cocktails with tiny little umbrellas at the top. Claim all entitled benefits and my wife is more than happy to remain working back home in England as a pharmacist.

I want this sorting out as quickly as possible, preferably in the next week or so and do not forget to assign an interpreter that you will be paying for at every occasion there should be the need for one.
*Davo  24-Feb-2010 13:27

 
Grumpyoldwoman hi to you,

When will anything ever be done about it?

This European Court of Justice are just too daft to laugh at. What a shower they are. What kind of ruling is this?

'Migrant families can stay in the UK and claim benefits - even if the main worker has left the country.'

So, arrange for the family to be nestled in the UK, smothered in benefits. Head of family can travel off to Europe for employment wherever he/she desires.

I'm just wondering if there is anything else they'd like to take, take with them on their journey around Europe? Their neighbours car with a full tank perhaps, ask for their life savings also, leave them in the glovebox.
*Davo  24-Feb-2010 13:03

 
Davo, it's not just Wake up who shares your views! I do too; so do most people I know for that matter.

The illegal immigrants are shoved onwards by every country they get into until they end up here, at the end of the line.

There are still pockets of Britishness left in more rural areas, but they are getting smaller and fewer.
*grumpyoldwoman  24-Feb-2010 09:31

 
Thanks for that Wake Up, nice to read we share similar views.

It is a grave concern when these illegals are taking but not giving. I don't doubt for a second the vast majority are gaining earnings, and of course by ill means. Taking all what they can but giving back nothing. I would be a rich man if I never paid tax and national insurance, car and tax insurance etc.etc.

Only today in the BBC news..

The European Court of Justice has said some migrant families can stay in the UK and claim benefits - even if the main worker has left the country.

The court, which deals with EU law, said some families must be allowed to stay when their child was in education.

A child's education was paramount, so parents could not be told to leave if they could not support themselves.

The Home Office said it was disappointed with the ruling but would not be drawn on its implications.

The judgement could lead to more foreign national families claiming a right to remain, even if they are not working and have no ties here other than children in education.

It is enough to make a good man go bad.
*Davo  24-Feb-2010 09:08

 
In a simple way the thoughts proposed by Davo are right. Britain's population is heading to be twice what it once was not so man years ago. The numbers so achieved are not through the birth rate in this country, but through immigration.

We simply cannot feed all these people from our own agriculture or fisheries. We must import.

As a trading Nation we cannot compete with the Far East anymore.

In the end there will be a great famine in these lands.

Don't think that it could not happen here!!
*Wake up to Reality  23-Feb-2010 23:27

 
Lost her Britishness more like. There are over 1 million illegal aliens on this tiny Isle, 1 million. I never thought I would see the day. Particularly when you can drive the best part of this country, top to bottom, in a day.

What do these border guards actually do, turn one away and let three into the country? I hope they all blush when they get their wage packet.

Illegals are a devastating strain upon our resources. If they are all illegals then they are not contributing, we are picking up the bill.

When they do find them, if the can't locate their passport then they stay here.

It's OK sending monies and aid all over the world but it's about time we had our own home in order before dishing out to the rest of the world.

Is this rational thinking or am I missing something?
*Davo  23-Feb-2010 13:06

 
Stop! Stop! Stop! It’s not a race issue, the government want us stacked ten high on this pathetic island for economic reasons. It’s all about diluting the work force and forcing down wages and destroying the unions (or what’s left of them). First they did it with women, Increasing the potential work force by 50% over night (sorry girls the feminist fight is just is pipe dream and you were exploited) now its uncontrolled immigration that’s being used to undermine the British work force. The immigrants are no worse than the average brit, Sure there are criminals within the immigrant community but there are also many British criminals. We are ALL people just trying to get through life and our problems lie with the parasitic ruling elite, not with each other! We need to unite against the ruling class and ditch the pathetic me, me, me, me, me attitude. But Briton is also extremely over populated and we have got to close the immigration flood gates now.
*Aleedsfella  22-Feb-2010 20:45

 
In a large M&S today, 80% of the staff were from an ethnic minority. I think soon the Brits themselves will become a morally absent minority in this their own country.

Employers must be forced to reverse their discrimination against employing indigenous people policy. If they are not paying enough they must up the regualr wages to make it possible.
*autochthon  16-Dec-2009 17:25

 
Congo,

Thank you for taking the time to post your comments.

We have always written to the CEO of any major companies that we have had a problem with and have always stood our ground and refused to leave shops but, as I said, it is a very uncomfortable experience to sit and eat somewhere where both the staff and the customers want you gone.

We know people who have made a fuss and got their pictures in the local paper; it did not make much difference in the long run. My inclination would be to sue them but my friend is a very private person and does not want her privacy invaded by that sort of publicity.

Few people care much if the disabled are discriminated against in this way.
*Rori  15-Nov-2009 19:26

 
Rori

Although you are mistaken - I did not call you a liar - you are absolutely correct in your supposition. We do not live in the same 'world'. My life is utterly different however my point remains that major companies cannot evade their responsibilities.

Take my advice. (After all, the usual charge would be a minimum of £450 an hour. Here it is free)!

Make a fuss. Complain. Follow matters to their conclusion.

You may not be able to afford first class representation but please, do complain and keep complaining. You will achieve a result.
*Congo  14-Nov-2009 00:44

 
and in almost every bagpipe shop be a pakistan person without proper english understanding! grrrr
*shieldwolf  13-Nov-2009 22:37

 
I believe in England! and the queen MUST show it's strength! IN all aspects! it didn't stop at Scotland! It started there! come on people of U K get the hearts right! Mine is ♥
*shieldwolf  13-Nov-2009 22:35


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