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Time to sort out recycling

I'm trying to work out what exactly it is I get for my council tax, particularly when it comes to recycling and rubbish disposal.  As far as I can see I'm not exactly getting value for money.  Yes I know that our council tax pays for lots of things besides the bin men, but I feel that its an area that isn't particularly well serviced... at least where I live.

Like many households these days we sort out our rubbish and recycle what we can, only the stuff that can't be recycled actually goes in the trash.  We also use a composter for all the organic waste so at the end of the day there isn't really much goes out in the main wheelie bin.

Recycling, councils should sort it out and all take the same stuff

As far as the recycling goes, Nuneaton and Bedworth council aren't all that great.  For example, they don't collect any cardboard or plastic and if you take a look at the vast majority of stuff you buy, guess what?  It's largely cardboard and plastic.  We used to be covered by Cherwell council and they did collect cardboard and plastic, but they didn't collect glass.  Nuneaton and Bedworth do collect glass which is a good thing, but there again it's probably only a small percentage of the average household's waste.

The result of this is that once a month we take a trip to the nearest recycling centre to offload our cardboard and plastic and once a month the wheelie bin goes out.  Why can't our local councils just get their act together when it comes to recycling and take the lot?  It would also be better if the same recycling policy was applied nationally.  We are more than happy to sort through everthing and make sure the plastic, glass, cardboard, paper and cans etc. are all seperated before collection.

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Who paid for the fancy bins scabies? the only thing we know for certain you fool is that it wasn't Portugul

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Boblet - 2-Aug-11 18:16 

Recycling in our holiday village in Portugal is a dream compared to what the London Borough of Camden does here.

Just outside our block 50 metres down the street, are a comprehensive set of colour code bins, of huge capacity, sealed to keep the smells in. The ridiculous practice of the recycling of food waste is not attempted. Recycling is easy-peasy.

Here the LB of Camden provide the wrong kind of bins to households, do not have easily reachable collective waste bins. Where they have collection points, the bins are not easy to use, complex to decide what goes in which bin.

UK is disgustingly hopeless at recycling

UK local government should be closed down as completely and greedily incompetent.

Our annual council tax rate there is 480 euros per year, here it is over £1500.

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Scabies - 2-Aug-11 17:21 

@Bin Counter: Well if you like how recycling is in Portugal and Spain so much, why don't you go and live in one of them countries instead of complaining about it here??

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Annonymous64 - 2-Aug-11 15:30 

And yet we still religiously separate our carboard from our glass to"help the environment". B*ll*cks! Everyone knows it's another con to milk more money out of taxpayers if they don't separate their rubbish.

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DSG - 17-Dec-10 14:50 

I was passing a garden this morning and there was this big bin type thing. It had a sign on it saying "compost:help yourself". What doe"s that mean though? do they want you to take some away or add something to it?

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Bertram Millipede - 21-Mar-10 09:21 

Hi, I think it is so so stupid to put bottles and rubbish in different bins I have just had to stand out in the stinking cold all just to put bottles and cans in a different bin what's the point? why cant you just keep it the way it was before you did not have a problem with the way it all worked for all them years so why change now your all just weird and thanks for freezing me.

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bunt - 6-Dec-09 20:45 

The government should have seen the writing after the war. Supermarkets getting off the ground.
They didn't think of the waste packaging then did they,? no, only profits !
. I do try and recycle . Once a fortnight I trudge all the bags, cans and whatever , etc to the street. One week I thought I'd put all my cardboard in a " cardboard box" to make life easier, but no, they left it,.... as it should have been stacked in a pile where the wind could have blown it across the road ! Who would pick it up then, ? the dustmen ? no, ...not me either. it can stay there till it rots !.
Now, if it takes my fancy to chuck all in the rubbish I do it, maybe I'll re-cycle if I'm in the mood to do it.

I just don't care now.Blow the councils, their silly people with fantastic ideas and all their stupid rules.

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Choizo n'chips - 30-Jun-09 14:06 

Why should you want to do this service for free? Has the Council ordered you to do this? Then they must expect you to invoice them for providing a service. If the Council arranged to collect all your waste and sort it themselves, you wouldn't have to charge them, would you? However, Council would complain that it costs them too much to sort. Ergo, why should your services be free?

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DrWho? - 28-Nov-08 15:12 

I don't think anyone has a clue what's going on. The council certainly don't know. If you call their office number you get redirected through to 'Monkey World' chimp sanctuary in Dorset.

Plastic is not for recycling in my area, even if it does display the logo. This is to be paced in the black bin with all non recyclable rubbish.

We haven't recycled plastic in this area for nearly 18 months. As for the council finding any solution, the words arze and both hands automatically springs to mind.

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Tony - 8-Jul-08 11:53 

I live in the same town as the gentleman who was recently all over the news because he was fined for having his bin too full. Along with our bins (brown for garden waste and black for rubbish) we have a black box for cans paper and glass jars/bottles. One of my children accidently placed a plastic bottle on top of the already full black box. (This plastic bottle was washed out and I do have a seperate bag for these.) But yet the bin men refused to empty it as it was contaminated!!? As all our bins are collected fortnightly I had to remove the item and wait a fortnight for it to be emptied. Unfortunately this happens all too often. Council Tax what a load of rubbish!

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litter bug - 7-Jul-08 22:49 

Hi. We do not even get a wheelie bin here (East Cambridgeshire District Council) everybody leaves their bags of rubbish on the street for collection. If your lucky you get black bin bag every now and then lobbed into your garden. All of my recycling is done down at Tesco although I do believe there is the facility to have recycling taken away. It has been badly communicated so nobody really knows what is going on.

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Grovis - 20-Apr-08 20:32 

I really can't believe the amount of different schemes national councils employ! It's ridiculous.
Then they have the audacity to fine Joe Public, for not understanding what goes where and when.
Some poor saps have 5 different bins/boxes for all their rubbish/recycling.
Most elderly people, just haven't got a clue what to do, what goes where, how often and when.
Why can't they just have two bins nationally?
One for ALL rubbish that can be recycled. One for household waste (peelings/food/etc) for composting - and a bi weekly black bag collection, for the miniscule amount of rubbish that doesn't fit into either of the above (e.g.dog poop, cigarette ends)
Easy.

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petralava - 19-Apr-08 15:33 

I was informed once by a binman that because I don't put my green wheelie bin out on the kerb I can get fined. Really? Well let me have one then! I don't have a green wheelie bin so I don't have one to put out. The local council have informed me that one was delivered to my house less than 3 years ago. When I didn't live there. So if I want another one I have to pay for it. As it is I throw out less than half a bag of rubbish a week. yet I am being threatened with additional charges. As I see it they owe me for not having anything to take away.

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khainestar - 17-Apr-08 13:33 

Recycling is a rip off. We pay council tax to deal with our waste (which includes recycling) then are compelled to sort through it ourselves. This is like Paying a mechanic to fix your car then fix it yourself ! As taxes increase and more & more services generate a surcharge, most of us will be better off becoming unemployed, sit at home and watch Jeremy Kyle all day - knowing someone else is picking up the bill

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old grouch - 13-Apr-08 08:36 

I live in the Lewisham borough and the facilities are not bad.
The council have sadly decided that they won't supply garden waste bins but they do supply the green plastic wheely bins for your recycling.
This bin will accept all types of recycling; cans, bottles, plastic, cardboard etc etc which is very handy as you don't have to sort it in any way, save sorting out the recycling from the non.
However, as with all good schemes there is always a downside - I recently moved to a new house in the borough which had 2 large non recycling bins and no recycling bin, hence my immediate call to the council to remove one of the bins and replace it with a green one, only to be told: "yeah well.... we might be able to get you one in a few weeks or so" - so much for the government directive, I'm still waiting.

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blacklion - 3-Apr-08 14:05 

My council is Shrewsbury and Atcham and they imposed the fortnightly recycling scheme despite local opposition - "democracy is broken" - and without any proper consulation as far as I can see. There is a green bin for cardboard boxes and garden waste, and 2 plastic boxes, one for newspapers and the other for glass. Both boxes have no lids - lids can be purchased from the council at extra cost which, of course, I refuse to do considering the high level of council tax I am paying. I live in a very small house with a tiny back garden, and so the boxes have to be kept outside. I made the mistake of filling the paper box full of paper and then it rained, and the whole lot got so saturated that it was impossible to lift it. Since then, I've tried putting a bin bag over the top to prevent the rain getting in, but it that involves placing heavy bricks over it to stop it from blowing away so, with some shame I must say, I've more or less given up and now try to remember to take the newspapers to the local supermarket recycling bin. The plastic box for the bottles I simply refuse to use - I don't particularly want to advertise to all and sundry once a fortnight what my wife and I are drinking, although it is - ironically - a 'sobering' thought to see the number of wine bottles that we can collect.

I'm sure recycling is fine for all those living in large houses, with garages and utility rooms etc. But spare a thought for the rest of use who live in flats and the tiny, crappy little houses that are being built all over the place these days. Recycling becomes a huge burden as to become pretty much impossible.

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MikeP - 2-Apr-08 19:13 

Oh yeah, forgot to mention the rebate in taxes!!
I am happy to pay taxes I understand that services have to be funded however, like everything, I like to my money at work and currently that is not the case.
I think you should be able to sign up for the services you need and each additional service is an "upgrade" to the basic.
However, knowing this government, they will think that that is a great idea and then keep rates as they are and then remove services and then charge to add more!

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Pugs - 2-Apr-08 08:40 

Pugs, its a good idea and I agree. But let's have a council tax rebate for processing our own waste!

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Anon - 1-Apr-08 22:09 

Local government is a completely hopeless entity and needs abolishing. It is a cost drain on the entire country, delivers hopeless bureaucracy, can't save anything, is thoroughly demoralising and the sooner it is consigned to the dustbin, the recycling bin or better still the incineration plant the better!!!

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Sid - 1-Apr-08 18:58 

This country is in the stone ages as regards recycling. Both Spain and Portugal are yonks ahead. We appoint overpaid idiots to run our councils. We need a mayoral system for local government.

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Bin Counter - 1-Apr-08 11:45 

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