Ripped off in trendy bars
17-May-2008
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I know there's already an article on this web site that deals with dress code in bars and clubs but I think there are some other annoying features about these kinds of places the really needs to be pointed out before we all end up bankrupt.
I'm talking about beer here, although not necessarily just ales and lagers because it applies to pretty much anything you might buy at the bar.  My problem is with the hiked up prices that we pay just for the privilege (if you can call it that) of drinking somewhere a bit more trendy and sociable with a dance floor.

A buzzing atmosphere?

One particular occasion when I decided to visit one of these establishments sticks out in my mind right now.  I had been having a drink with friends in a J.D. Wetherspoon pub, which was nice enough on its own and it had quite a buzzing atmosphere.  The bottled lager I was drinking here cost 99 pence a bottle, which was very cheap because there was some promotion or other on; however the normal price of the same bottle at this place is £1.29 which is still pretty good anyway!

A cheap bottle of becks?

Somewhere along the line we all decided to go across the street to said trendy pub with dance floor, music and flashing lights that was open a bit later.  Luckily I decided to visit the cash machine on the way because the same bottle of beer in this place cost £2.40 a go, which by my calculations is around double what I’d been paying only moments earlier.

Another thing that gets me about these places is the lack of options on ‘what’ to drink.  Unless you like alcopops, shorts or second rate lager and bitter your out of luck.  Considering the fact that the place I had just came from had a great range of reasonably priced guest ales, you might understand why I was a bit less than overwhelmed with what was on offer!

The bottom line is, what exactly are we paying for?  Yes its all very nice to go up market a bit now and then ( if you can call this place up market! ), but does it really justify such a huge price hike and poor choice?  Maybe it’s the prospect of hoards of party animals banging down the doors to get into the place that has prompted the management to take action, in which case why don’t they just charge admission instead?


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The story in several pubs in London nowadays:-

"Do you have a bag of peanuts?"

Answer: "No! But we can sell you a small bowl of peanuts."

"How much?"

Answer: "£2-10p"

"And a bag of crisps?"

Answer: "We only sell high quality crisps. £1 a bag."

[Methinks: "High quality" means high margin here!]

"No thanks!"
*Living on the economic margins of Britain  25-May-2007 20:30

 
don't like it, don't go. Can't really understand what the fuss is about, you have the choice of jdw or a trendy cocktail bar, agree with your mates and go to the one that suits you the best. Why should the bar that bothers to employ staff who know their stuff (and staff it well enough so that your not standing around gor a fornight) offer roving waiting staff to take your orders and bring your drinks to you, employ a dj, keep toilets that are clean, decorate with a bit of flair rather than thow a picture on the wall of dogs playing snooker and employ security that keep the place secure rather than leer menacingly - why should these places charge the same as a place that doesn't bother. By the way, I go to both when my mood (or my wallet) suits. Cheers!
*tim  12-Mar-2007 16:18

 
Totally agree.. UK is ripped off!

Drinks here are so expensive, I was shocked by one bar I was in to find lemonade costing more than a pint, yet it was cheap lemonade not even pumped.

Crazy or what.. but regarding alcohol.. stuff like doubles, etc are pretty expensive, averaging at £4.50
*GG  18-Dec-2006 06:55

 
Alexandra was broke as soon as she got out of high-school. Her student loan went on for nearly a century. By the time she was 60 she could no longer afford a bedsit. As a pensioner she lived on hand-outs from the state.
*Downbeat  06-Nov-2006 19:29

 
I think there is a descrepency what some people consider posh and what is really posh. The Yates, Weatherspoons, Slug and Lettuce, All Bar One, Pitcher and Piano are not posh and instead overly commmercialised and devoid of character and standards. The true posh bars are usually members only or bars such as St. James's. A pub with old world character, fires, tudor beams and stained glass offers a much better alternative but sadly these places are often soiled with loud, brash and ill mannered folk. All it takes to make a great pub is civilised, polite, friendly behaviour and clean clothes. Beer is all the same, prices don't vary enough to be of concern and good food is a plus. There should be no excuse for dirty facilities.
*A. Greeves-Jackson  01-Aug-2005 11:37

 
I love the trendy bars and wouldn't go anywhere else. Getting dressed up to look smart and elegant and sipping £10-£15 cocktails offers a lot more value. People behave much better and in places that you can avoid drunken louts, swearing and being greeted with "yew alrite?".
*Alexandra  01-Aug-2005 11:25

 
A good issue this but I can't help pointing out to Horatio that you get pissed up tarts even in the hippest places.... they may have nicer clothes than the bints in the Red Rover (though not necessarily) but they are still ghastly.
*Chris - London  28-Apr-2005 09:10

 
Weatherspoons rely on piling high and selling cheap - and they make more profit per venue than nearly any other chain pub operator, so its not like they are providing a community service, they simply generated a niche.

We have a vicious circle now where people go to JDW at 8pm, drink until merry, then go and nurse one or two drinks in somewhere more expensive but with a better atmosphere and decor for the rest of the night. Most operators couldn't ever compete with JDW prices - if the others lowered their prices to £1.80 from £2.40 people would still think they were getting ripped off, still get tanked up in JDW and end up spending LESS in the other venues by virtue of the lowered prices.
*TheVoiceOfReason  11-Apr-2005 16:49

 
Simple solution to not getting ripped off in trendy bars.dont go in them,more than likley to be full of puffs anyway.
*furiso  25-Mar-2005 01:26

 
The sooner the brainless breweries / publicans understand and realise the harsh realities and adapt (as has good old JDW), the sooner pubs may stop going to the wall. £2.80 average for a pint of lager that you have had to battle with morons spread out across a bar to purchase, lungs full of stale, smoky air, filthy toilets, overpriced poor food........ OR.........warm, comfortable home, film on TV or a favourite CD, premium beer less than £1 a pint (bought with the weekly shop), good food that you actually know has been hygienically prepared, AND no risk tour licence!.......hmmmmmm, tough call........
*Nobby  11-Dec-2004 00:18

 
I don't understand your comment on the 'lack of options'... most nice bars tend to carry a wide range of rare spirits and liqueurs as well as cocktails and often a very well chosen wine list... my local 'trendy' bar doesn't even serve alcopops at all. plus I agree it's worth paying a premium so you don't have to share the bar with a load of pikey-looking people and pissed up tarts.
*Horatio  12-Oct-2004 15:09

 
Jeff 10 quid a round.... bring it on..... I was in the big rip off town known as London meeting friends for a birthday on the weekend, 4 quid a bottle and £3.50 for a short!
I think they are bloomin outrageous. I also dont drink often when out. Not that I a driving, I just stay quite healthy and it guts me when I end up paying 3-4 quid for a pint of orange and lemonade.!!
*leigh  21-Jun-2004 12:05


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