Part P certification for electricians
13-May-2008
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My gripe is with Part P legislation.  Any consumer who has certain types of electrical work (i.e. rewire) carried out in his house needs to make sure that this is either notified in advance to the building control authorities or that an electrician who can self certify is employed for the job.

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In other words the consumer has to carry the can of complying with the legislation.  The Government does nothing to fight cowboy tradesmen so it introduces rules for the consumer rather than for the electricians.

It is not easy to find good electricians at best of times and now you have to find someone who is able to self-certify work under Part P or you will have to incur expensive fees when involving building control.  You may know a very competent electrician but if this person has not paid to join the racket of self certifying associations, you are at risk of prosecution if you employ this individual on a job.

Not that these associations provide the consumer with any protection.  I know people who have not been able to sack dodgy (Part P certified) electricians from their homes for fear of not getting a certificate for Part P compliance.  This is because one of the rules of Part P is that no one electrician can certify work carried out by another electrician.  How convenient and helpful!


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im 26 and just and although im not an electrician myself but working in electronics I am about 6 months into a course at my local college which im really struggling fund my self as its working out at about £1000 a year and is a 3-4 year course. once you have done a course you can see why they are charging so much as the theory side of the electrical principles is really hard and not for the faint hearted. so assuming these guys have done a propper course and not something dodgy on the internet then they not only carry the skills but also the technical know how too.

I do think poor workmanship is down to the few lazy ones or under skilled that need a good kick up the a**e because they are getting lazy in their jobs.
*Dave  08-Feb-2008 19:47

 
I think the main problem is that anyone willing to make an effort and do a good job is fed up of being insulted by people who feel it is their right to be rude just because they are having a bad day/feel like it.
*Why rudeness?  06-Feb-2008 16:27

 
Hi Youthful Griper

Thanks for your last post, very interesting reading I reckon we are a minority because we would pride ourselves on the quality of our workmanship rather than the profit involved.

Another reason (I'm sure you realise this in your job and no offence to you whatsoever) but real skills like Electrics and Plumbing are in demand in more desirable countries, like Canada and Australia so hopefully I can emigrate as well!

Cheers mate
*Vocation Nation!  06-Feb-2008 16:21

 
I'm up in West Yorkshire and the scenario is pretty much the same - plenty of call for qualified and skilled people but not many opportunities if you want to start out... unless you're 16 and just left school with very few GCSE's. I currently work for a national health-care institution. No prizes for guessing which one! I'm on around £2k more than yourself. This goes up each year but not sure how much longer I can stick it out as I've been here... it'll be 4 years come July. There are some great people here and some not so great people and if you love attending meetings, you'll fit right in!

I don't want to be jumping from the frying pan into the fire either. There are some days I could just waltz in, hand in my notice and be done with it but it's what happens next. Can't do that without a back-up.

Watching such programmes like House of Horror and Rogue Traders, it really does make you wonder why people want to be cowboy outfits, obviously motivated by money and not the fact they can be satisfied by a job well done.

I hope everything turns out well and if we do end up being electricians - best get that Part P Certification!
*Youthful Griper  05-Feb-2008 14:02

 
Hi Youthful Gripper, I totally agree with you about being stuck in a rut and your right about the lack of jobs in certain areas, the problem is there is plently of demand for decent skilled trademen but very few oppotunities to actually start training.

On the plus side I'm sure that they would rather employ someone like you or I with a few years employment experience rather than someone fresh out of school....I hope!

Also most newly trained plumbers/electricians are starting at £15-16,000 a year (where I live in Essex) so thats more than I make now (£12,000) so depending on your current earnings you could be in for a pay rise to switch jobs!

I think we should "make the jump" ASAP!

Best of luck getting married mate, All the best for the future.
*Vocation Nation  05-Feb-2008 11:59

 
Hi Vocation Nationa, I'm sure there's plenty more of us out there.

I'm at home with my parents, money is a bit of an issue as I'm getting married later on in the year and expect to move house as well. So a decision needs to be made very soon because before long I won't be able to take much of a pay cut.

It's that feeling of being stuck in a rut that's the killer which is made worse by their being no suitable jobs in my area.

I hope your successful in achieving what you want.
*Youthful Griper  05-Feb-2008 09:33

 
Hi Youthful Griper, Thanks for letting me know I'm not the only one! I think you can still get Appreticeships up to the age of 24. Thats if your like me, live with parents and not too worried about money just yet!

cheers mate
*Vocation Nation!  04-Feb-2008 11:29

 
Vocation Nation - I'm in the same boat. Bored of my IT based job and want to do something hands on and constructive. I don't think it's too late to make the decision... I'm 23!
*Youthful Griper  04-Feb-2008 08:23

 
I think this highlights the skills gap which is widening in the UK and other western nations. I am thinking of leaving my IT job for a career as a Plumber or Electrician (any advice?) I think that I would get more satisfaction actually constructing things than sitting at the same PC every day.

As a 21 year old hopefully I haven't left this decision too late! Also I hate these "rouge traders" and I would always be honest to my customers.
*Vocation Nation!  01-Feb-2008 13:48


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